#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-05-23

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[00:07:31] <JT-Shop> your song for the night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KseUrBSRBDA
[00:07:32] <Tecan> (KseUrBSRBDA) "The Marvelettes - Please Mr. Postman" by "John1948NineB" is "Education" - Length: 0:02:27
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[00:08:22] <tjb1> JT-Shop: how are you doing
[00:08:54] <JT-Shop> a little wobbly but I'll recover from driving 1400 miles in 36hrs
[00:09:08] <tjb1> plasma still works ;)
[00:09:40] <JT-Shop> Sweet
[00:09:52] * JT-Shop hears the dinner bell
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[00:25:34] <Aero-Tec2> looks like xchat is the winner
[00:25:41] <Aero-Tec2> will try it for a bit
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[00:30:02] <Aero-Tec2> wow so dead
[00:30:07] <Tom_itx> too late. 754410 would drive those steppers pretty easy
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[00:34:11] <Aero-Tec> liking this one way better then mIRC
[00:39:46] <tjb1> Aero-Tec: got a mac?
[00:41:20] <Aero-Tec> not yet
[00:41:34] <Aero-Tec> linux and win
[00:41:56] <Aero-Tec> but have not setup a linux box for office yet
[00:42:00] <tjb1> If you get a mac, colloquy is probably the best
[00:42:02] <Aero-Tec> soon I hope
[00:42:16] <Aero-Tec> would like a mac as well
[00:42:43] <Aero-Tec> macs are good for playing
[00:43:11] <Aero-Tec> doing movie editing and such
[00:43:28] <tjb1> dont have to do updates every other hour ;)
[00:43:40] <Aero-Tec> as well as I would love to play with the music program it comes with
[00:43:46] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:44:04] <Aero-Tec> garage band or something
[00:44:07] <tjb1> yeah
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[00:44:26] <Aero-Tec> I look forward to playing with it
[00:44:31] <tjb1> I'm looking at racing wheels now and getting into sim racing
[00:45:22] <Aero-Tec> so if I want to do a mac box, do I just buy a box and install mac 10 or do they have a newer version?
[00:45:35] <Aero-Tec> mac 10x
[00:45:40] <Aero-Tec> or x10
[00:46:02] <Aero-Tec> I was looking at it before but was not sure how it all worked
[00:46:27] <Aero-Tec> I know it is linux based to some extent
[00:46:27] <tjb1> you have to buy a mac
[00:46:30] <tjb1> or do a hackintosh
[00:46:40] <tjb1> its not just grab disc and install
[00:47:35] <tjb1> I liked 10.6 - snow leopard the best
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[00:49:28] <Aero-Tec> what is this osX?
[00:49:46] <Aero-Tec> thought that made any box a apple
[00:51:00] <Aero-Tec> I had a apple 2e
[00:51:06] <Aero-Tec> way way back
[00:51:11] <Aero-Tec> before mac
[00:51:26] <tjb1> os x is os 10
[00:51:41] <Aero-Tec> have not played with then since
[00:51:55] <Aero-Tec> ok, so what is OS 10?
[00:52:01] <tjb1> very old
[00:52:09] <Aero-Tec> any good?
[00:52:21] <tjb1> id shoot for 10.6
[00:52:31] <tjb1> 10 was cheetah
[00:52:56] <tjb1> 10.6 was snow leopard, 10.7 lion, 10.8 mountain lion
[00:52:58] <Aero-Tec> I was hoping to turn a reg box into a apple
[00:53:20] <tjb1> requires intel processor
[00:53:24] <Aero-Tec> so I need a apple box to run the OS on it?
[00:53:37] <tjb1> http://basshead.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/snow-leopard-on-hackintosh-second-method/
[00:53:58] <tjb1> no if you put it on a non-apple box, it will be a "hackintosh"
[00:54:04] <Aero-Tec> can I get a intel box and run OS 10.8?
[00:54:12] <tjb1> http://www.hackintosh.com/
[00:54:17] <Aero-Tec> is that bad?
[00:54:26] <tjb1> http://www.tonymacx86.com/61-unibeast-install-os-x-mountain-lion-any-supported-intel-based-pc.html
[00:54:37] <tjb1> its not supported
[00:54:41] <tjb1> I dont know how hard it is to do
[00:55:12] <tjb1> to get 10.8 you have to have a mac, know someone who does or of course pirate it
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[00:55:44] <tjb1> You can't purchase it outside of the mac app store
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[00:57:45] <Aero-Tec> thanks for the info
[00:58:03] <Aero-Tec> no apple stores near me at all
[00:58:30] <Aero-Tec> no place to walk in and ask question
[00:59:18] <Aero-Tec> so do you love the mac and highly recommend it?
[00:59:33] <Aero-Tec> looks like a very fun machine
[01:00:34] <Aero-Tec> had a friend bring a mac laptop so got to poke at it some but not really play with it
[01:01:19] <Aero-Tec> was very different, had to set it up to connect to our wireless network
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[01:22:51] <tjb1> Aero-Tec: its a computer...
[01:23:07] <tjb1> doesnt run very much cad/cam software it is very reliable
[01:23:37] <tjb1> I am on an 8 day uptime right now on my laptop, only reason it isnt longer is because I usually dont have it plugged in
[01:27:09] <Aero-Tec> I run my win boxes for weeks and months with out restarting
[01:27:28] <Aero-Tec> power bumps do most of my restarts
[01:31:27] <tjb1> they are good internet browsers and music machines
[01:31:39] <tjb1> not good for cad, cam or anything like that
[01:33:50] <Tom_itx> Aero-Tec did you get your subroutine working?
[01:33:58] <ReadError> i have 3 macs
[01:34:04] <ReadError> 2 macbook pro, 1 hackintosh
[01:34:16] <Aero-Tec> yes
[01:34:21] <Aero-Tec> thanks for asking
[01:34:47] <Aero-Tec> worked till 1 am, but got it fixed
[01:36:23] <Tom_itx> what was the problem
[01:36:24] <Tom_itx> ?
[01:37:48] <Aero-Tec> the ini file and /or placement of the sub file
[01:38:20] <Aero-Tec> if I had put the sub file in the default dir it would have worked
[01:39:07] <Aero-Tec> thing is when I did try that it did not work
[01:39:55] <Aero-Tec> I had tried to add extra path to the default parameter
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[01:41:14] <Aero-Tec> PROGRAM_PREFIX = path1:path2 messes it up so nether paths work
[01:42:23] <Aero-Tec> by the time I put the sub file in the default path1, I had already added path2 to the PROGRAM_PREFIX = parameter
[01:42:32] <Aero-Tec> so it would not work
[01:43:19] <Aero-Tec> I also had SUBROUTINE_PATH = in the display part of the INI
[01:44:36] <Aero-Tec> not sure if that was messing up the default path1 or if it was adding the extra path2 to path1 in PROGRAM_PREFIX that messed up the default path1
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[01:45:49] <Aero-Tec> the fix was removing path2 from PROGRAM_PREFIX and moving SUBROUTINE_PATH = to [RS274NGC] where it belongs
[01:46:06] <Tom_itx> yup
[01:46:31] <Aero-Tec> seeing as I did both edits at the same time I am not sure what made the default path for sub files not work
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[02:49:39] <ssi> listening to my own music on vinyl for the first time
[02:49:43] <ssi> it's kinda surreal and amazing
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[03:07:52] <L84Supper> ssi: did you machine the vinyl yourself?
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[03:19:27] <ssi> haha no
[03:19:37] <ssi> although I did check to see if there were mastering lathes available on ebay
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[04:10:56] <PetefromTn> Wazzup folks?
[04:13:36] <ssi> thinking about buying another fpga dev board
[04:14:20] <PetefromTn> http:// youtube.com/watch?v=miXcYGMoQFw
[04:14:22] <Tecan> (miXcYGMoQFw) "Hothouse Flowers - I Can See Clearly Now" by "PancakeTheFish" is "Music" - Length: 0:05:01
[04:14:36] <PetefromTn> This makes me smile.....
[04:14:37] <ssi> just got done listening to the test pressings of our album
[04:14:40] <ssi> pretty awesome
[04:15:17] <PetefromTn> What kinda board is that?
[04:15:33] <ssi> http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,400,793&Prod=S3E1600
[04:15:34] <ssi> something like that
[04:16:17] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BK7DJKiCAAANdjW.jpg:large
[04:16:19] <ssi> :D
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[04:16:58] <PetefromTn> Interesting, what are ya gonna do with it.
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[04:19:02] <ssi> I dunno... stuff
[04:19:15] <ssi> I need to get back into fpga work
[04:19:19] <ssi> but right now I need to SLEEP
[04:19:45] <PetefromTn> I hear ya, i can't sleep right now.
[04:20:07] <PetefromTn> Been sitting here listening to my smartphone music.
[04:20:55] <PetefromTn> Right now enjoying Hothouse Flowers album "Home"
[04:21:50] <PetefromTn> Started Machining a stainless steel bodied flycutter head for the Cincinnati today...
[04:22:23] <PetefromTn> Gonna make of fit my spare cat40 facemill holder.
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[04:29:20] <PetefromTn> Smartphone+ equalizer application with bass boost and effects+ studio headphones+ gigabytes of my favorite music=Happiness ;p
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[05:22:29] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[05:51:48] <Aero-Tec> 11 pm here
[05:51:56] <Aero-Tec> but morn just the same
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[06:39:55] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[12:32:36] <jthornton> I'm alive!
[12:33:38] <jdh> is that a surprise?
[12:34:22] <jthornton> kinda, after some of the places I drove in the last two days LOL
[12:35:20] <jdh> how was the drive?
[12:35:29] <jdh> in retrospect
[12:36:15] <jthornton> I left at 3am in the rain and it rained till about 10am, traffic was not bad in any cities
[12:36:43] <jthornton> on I485 south I hit a rain storm that had traffic down to 20 mph
[12:37:08] <jthornton> got to the dealer and almost got the trailer loaded up before it started raining
[12:37:34] <jthornton> finally got it loaded up and headed to Concord to my sisters house to relax
[12:38:08] <jthornton> I40 in east TN and west NC people drive like Indy car drivers LOL
[12:38:26] <jdh> through the mountains?
[12:38:29] <jthornton> over all not a bad trip
[12:38:30] <jthornton> yea
[12:38:51] <jdh> my least favorite part of that drive. Were all the lanes open?
[12:39:40] <jthornton> for the most part there was some construction somewhere on every interstate I was on
[12:39:53] <jthornton> most of the time all lanes were open
[12:40:52] <archivist> sounds like a little trip, what are you moaning about :)
[12:41:33] <jthornton> I'm thinking it was about like driving back and forth across England a few times a day
[12:42:32] <archivist> I did baltimore to chicago a while ago
[12:43:34] <archivist> Inverness and back from here in a few days via every museum I could find on the route
[12:44:33] <jthornton> that's the same distance but I only stopped for gas and pit stops so no time to relax
[12:45:52] <archivist> going out to baltimore we went via the Ford museum
[12:46:46] <jthornton> did they have a section on camping? Ford was an avid camper
[12:47:36] <archivist> cannot remember, did get to see the steam engine he took from near me (Moira)
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[12:49:34] <archivist> I do tend to jump at chances for long drives, specially if I can add to the itinerary
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[12:54:03] <skunkworks> this weekend we drive to montana ~12hour drive. First time with a munchkin...
[12:55:45] <jthornton> that will be fun
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[13:24:49] <andy1978> may someone have a quick look on this g-code? http://pastebin.com/95iFPGdY perhaps someone could run it in the simulator an tell me, if there are any problems expected on a real mill?
[13:26:54] <jthornton> seems to run ok on Axis sim
[13:28:24] <andy1978> jthornton: thank you very much
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[13:28:26] <jthornton> I've not seen hf2gcode before
[13:28:34] <jthornton> where is it at?
[13:28:41] <andy1978> hershey font to g-code tracer
[13:28:49] <jthornton> cool
[13:28:50] <andy1978> github, wait a minute
[13:28:56] <jthornton> ok
[13:33:27] <andy1978> jthornton: https://github.com/Andy1978/hf2gcode
[13:33:38] <andy1978> but at a really pre-alpha state :-)
[13:34:30] <jthornton> thanks
[13:35:13] <andy1978> the renderd fonts are here http://www.tech-chat.de/png_album/
[13:35:25] <andy1978> just to get an overview
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[13:53:14] <andy1978> jthornton: Ah, I saw you tutorial http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html today
[13:53:43] <andy1978> thanks for this
[13:55:30] <jthornton> your welcom
[13:55:55] <jthornton> e
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[14:00:02] <frallzor> ahoyhoy
[14:00:21] <frallzor> Quick Q, anyone using a danfoss VFD for spindle control?
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[14:02:39] <PetefromTn> ahoy!
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[14:06:07] <frallzor> bah, I want a VFD ppl know things about =P
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[14:09:19] <Guest88124> I'm retrofiting a milling machine that has a toothed wheel and single sensor for spindle speed. Can I use this signal to have linuxcnc display spindle speed?
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[14:18:06] <cpresser> Guest88124: most likely yes. you only need to count pulses et voila
[14:19:37] <Guest88124> thanks for the reply - im looking for a hint in how to set up the hal file
[14:21:02] <Guest88124> the examples i found use an index pulse in addition to a signal with multiple pulses per rev
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[14:26:39] <JT-Shop> just ignore the parts that don'e apply to you
[14:28:09] <jdh> what are you hooking the snsor up to?
[14:29:09] <Guest88124> im using mesa 5i20 and 7i37
[14:29:25] <Guest88124> so one of the inputs on the 7i37
[14:29:54] <jdh> does your 5i20 config already have a spindle encoder configured?
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[14:30:07] <Guest88124> it does not
[14:30:21] <jdh> which one are you using?
[14:30:44] <Guest88124> im sorry i dont understand - which one of what?
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[14:33:12] <jdh> which hostmot2
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[14:34:30] <JT-Shop> I guess you just add an encoder to the config line for hostmot2
[14:34:59] <jdh> num_encoders=1 or whatever
[14:35:06] <JT-Shop> yea
[14:35:31] <Guest88124> hmm...im not sure, i configured through the config utility
[14:35:46] <JT-Shop> pncconf?
[14:35:47] <jdh> it prompts you for that in pncconf
[14:36:00] <jdh> check the loadrt line in your hal
[14:36:06] <Guest88124> perfect, ill look back to pncconf
[14:36:31] <jdh> I only have one mesa config, but pncconf seemed to be a run-once thing for me.
[14:37:30] <Guest88124> yes i started modifying my hal file because its a good way to learn but i can run a test pncconf and then adapt it
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[15:11:16] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[15:13:33] <IchGuckLive> chopper791: Did the hack work
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[15:59:24] <frallzor> If I want to change the pin for spindle CW manually, where do I look?
[15:59:36] <frallzor> messing with stepconf will screw my settings up =(
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[16:07:38] <skunkworks> frallzor, your hal file
[16:08:51] <frallzor> I know the pin I want, but what to add in the hal?
[16:09:39] <frallzor> ahh net spindle-fwd motion.spindle-forward => parport.0.pin-16-out
[16:09:41] <frallzor> this ?
[16:09:53] <frallzor> where the pin is the one I want
[16:10:20] <frallzor> or well, the spindle-on instead
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[16:16:37] <skunkworks> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/man/man9/motion.9.html
[16:16:45] <skunkworks> motion.spindle-on
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[16:27:03] <jthornton> frallzor, add it in your custom.hal file
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[16:36:06] <frallzor> right, will try that after BBQ =)
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[16:44:00] <andypugh> This looks like a bargain for somebody wanting a dual-spindle lathe with a compact footprint. http://london.craigslist.co.uk/bfs/3779958879.html
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[16:48:41] <jdh> what is live tooling?
[16:53:18] <frallzor> isnt it kind of like being able too mill etc too?
[16:53:36] <frallzor> as in non-stativ tools
[16:53:39] <frallzor> *Static
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[16:58:08] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[17:01:14] <jdh> that looks cool
[17:01:56] <archivist> jdh the milling and drilling heads on a lathe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkYNLlk6EE0
[17:01:56] <Tecan> (TkYNLlk6EE0) "Citizen Cincom L20X CNC Sliding Head Lathe" by "CitizenMachineryUK" is "Tech" - Length: 0:04:00
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[17:05:37] <archivist> I want one
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[17:12:21] <IchGuckLive> hi AndreasHofer
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[17:12:34] <IchGuckLive> your nick is a very famas person
[17:13:14] <IchGuckLive> archivist: hard to programm on 14 axis
[17:14:08] <andypugh> There is a guy who writes for the Ski Club with that name, too.
[17:14:40] <IchGuckLive> andypugh: yes as i said its a famos name
[17:15:18] <archivist> IchGuckLive, nah if you look the tools are all on very few real axes and adjust the hal connections to the tool in use
[17:16:17] <andypugh> mhaberler: A thought. A round-nose milling cutter may have a secondary radius that is relevant in the XZ and YZ planes.
[17:17:58] <mhaberler> re your mail: yes, tool origin to tooltip is _an_ offset, which is why I think it might make sense a tool might have some implicit offset (or maybe more than one), but from that it doesnt follow every offset should contain tool geometry properties
[17:18:42] <mhaberler> it still doesnt get you around the delete/insert anomalies on adding/removing to the offset stack if tool geo is in the offset
[17:19:57] <mhaberler> there might be a case for multiple offsets keyed on toolid; tip offset and wear come to my mind; both are vectors proper
[17:20:17] <archivist> this geometry is a little difficult see image http://www.archivist.info/cnc/cnccam.html
[17:20:53] <mhaberler> good point to look at tool geo descriptions
[17:21:07] <mhaberler> have you looked at awallin's openscam?
[17:21:17] <andypugh> Briefly, and in passing
[17:21:45] <mhaberler> not sure set of scalars is sufficient for that task
[17:22:06] <IchGuckLive> mhaberler: do you know itf the main of awallins is noe integreded into freecad
[17:22:30] <mhaberler> no, but awallin is the fellow to ask
[17:22:45] <mhaberler> havent looked at it in a year or so
[17:22:51] <IchGuckLive> he is always on a airplane
[17:23:05] <mhaberler> but he uses some quite complex toolshapes
[17:23:10] <IchGuckLive> circeling the worlds cnc states
[17:23:38] <mhaberler> ah, good he's getting some mileage out of his work
[17:25:45] <IchGuckLive> archivist: why dont you calculate the g-code on parametric as there is a known formulas for the gear system
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[17:26:54] <archivist> IchGuckLive, that is an epycyclic cutter and there are a number of standards and not that well documented
[17:28:14] <IchGuckLive> looks like a standard module one
[17:28:48] <IchGuckLive> so special worm gear cutter
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[17:30:36] <archivist> it is a clock standard not a worm
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[17:37:56] <mhaberler> andypugh: the heekscad tool descriptor might be worth a look too
[17:38:26] <mhaberler> nobody said a tool geo just has to be a few numbers
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[17:39:26] <andypugh> There is the question of how much LinucCNC cares about geometry, now or in the future.
[17:39:34] <IchGuckLive> heekscad uses awallins opencamlib
[17:41:43] <pcw_home> You mean LinuxCNC doesn't need a STL model of the tool?
[17:43:43] <mhaberler> I would think when redesigning the tool descriptors it is a valid question how general the existing model is, and if something better can be found
[17:44:00] <mhaberler> but I dont have good examples at hand
[17:44:57] <toastydeath> that sort of indicated linuxcnc is becoming it's own cam package
[17:44:59] <mhaberler> some examples from other controls might help
[17:45:00] <toastydeath> *indicates
[17:45:10] <mhaberler> why does it indicate that?
[17:45:41] <toastydeath> that's where tool shape is generally dealt with
[17:46:05] <toastydeath> (not a complaint, just sort of interesting)
[17:46:13] <IchGuckLive> tool shape and real block milling woudt be faboulas to have as a lookahad
[17:46:22] <IchGuckLive> like freemill
[17:46:25] <IchGuckLive> visualmill
[17:46:28] <toastydeath> even on more modern controls, it isn't dealt with on the control
[17:46:31] <IchGuckLive> rhinocam
[17:46:51] <mhaberler> right, and I dont advocate feature explosion; nevertheless a look at other controls might make sense
[17:47:00] <IchGuckLive> tost agree haas does not have one
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[17:47:14] <toastydeath> i would be really, REALLY impressed if you found a major control that has tool geometry in it
[17:47:25] <mhaberler> plus I am dead sure the tool industry has some standard for that; actually it was on the list a while ago, with a reference
[17:47:34] <IchGuckLive> does mach have a 3d preview ?
[17:48:00] <toastydeath> machines with a 3d preview will have a tool geom page, for sure
[17:48:01] <IchGuckLive> i never looked at mach even on 140+ mashines
[17:48:25] <toastydeath> but it doesn't actually affect the operation of the machine, just the preview
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[17:48:35] <mhaberler> I think just about any control which can do offsets and crc needs to have one; the research question is: are there better ones than we have now
[17:48:55] <toastydeath> i don't think that's born out by experience
[17:49:20] <IchGuckLive> Heidenhain 535 does look at 5axis for colision on M128 with M126 plane preset
[17:49:53] <IchGuckLive> i got once a tool colide msg at plane change
[17:50:02] <frallzor> I think I found a bug in emc
[17:50:14] <toastydeath> IchGuckLive, for an arbitrary tool shape?
[17:50:16] <frallzor> G4 P7000 should mean 7 seconds right?
[17:50:20] <IchGuckLive> frallzor: lots of
[17:50:29] <frallzor> as in 7000 milliseconds
[17:50:43] <IchGuckLive> no p is in sec
[17:50:53] <IchGuckLive> so its 7000sec
[17:51:00] <frallzor> hmm all Ive read says P = ms
[17:51:03] <IchGuckLive> 0.7
[17:51:21] <toastydeath> frallzor, on fanuc, haas, yasnac, etc it's ms
[17:51:22] <IchGuckLive> G4 is iso in seconds
[17:51:27] <frallzor> ahhh
[17:51:32] <frallzor> that makes more sense then =)
[17:51:36] <frallzor> no issues then
[17:51:41] <frallzor> thanks
[17:51:43] <toastydeath> also you have to watch out because you have no decimal
[17:51:52] <toastydeath> P7. will be seven seconds
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[17:52:08] <toastydeath> but on emc, P7 is seven seconds, on Fanuc-based controls it's 7 ms
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[17:52:36] <frallzor> wont be using anything but ems so P is seconds is all I need to know
[17:52:40] <toastydeath> i don't know what Heidenhein and Okuma do
[17:52:41] <frallzor> and know I know it
[17:52:45] <frallzor> *emc
[17:53:04] <frallzor> and now I finally have auto start/stop for my spindle
[17:53:11] <frallzor> happy happy joy joy
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[17:55:14] <IchGuckLive> hyanyang VFD ?
[17:55:35] <frallzor> danfoss
[18:02:49] * ssi grits his teeth and attempts to install Xilinx tools
[18:05:11] <pcw_home> grit teeth, hold nose...
[18:06:19] <archivist> ssi you have enough space?
[18:06:40] <ssi> hopefully
[18:06:45] <pcw_home> ~18GB IICRC
[18:06:45] <ssi> installing it on linux too, for extra fun
[18:07:23] <archivist> someone said 8gb on another chan this morning, I dunno though
[18:07:36] <ssi> it was 6.66G download, amusingly enough
[18:07:38] <pcw_home> Maybe an old version
[18:07:58] <ssi> webpack+sdk is 13G
[18:08:06] <ssi> system edition + sdx is 17G
[18:08:17] <ssi> I'm guessing I just need webpack for now
[18:08:21] <ssi> just working with s3 and s3e
[18:08:30] <archivist> better allocate a spare server then :)
[18:08:36] <ssi> it's on a spare server :)
[18:08:55] <pcw_home> unless you want to pay $2500/y or so
[18:09:01] <ssi> yeah not really
[18:09:07] <ssi> I know the webpack used to cover these chips
[18:09:09] <ssi> but they're old old now
[18:10:19] <pcw_home> I think the latest supports everything but Spartan2
[18:11:00] <pcw_home> though they broke the editor around V10 and haven't fixed it yet
[18:11:28] <ssi> pcw_home: 7i43 has to be programmed on every powerup, right?
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[18:11:48] <pcw_home> Not necessarily
[18:12:01] <ssi> is there a serial eeprom on it or something?
[18:12:07] <pcw_home> it has a flash EEPROM
[18:12:10] <ssi> ok
[18:12:23] <ssi> is it an s3 or s3e?
[18:12:37] <pcw_home> but if its connected to a computer, flash is more of a liability
[18:12:49] <pcw_home> Its a S3
[18:12:56] <ssi> ok... mine's a 400k gate I'm pretty sure
[18:13:01] <ssi> I have two of them lying around :D
[18:14:03] <pcw_home> There are only winders tools for writing the flash (via USB)
[18:14:42] <ssi> oh really?
[18:14:43] <ssi> lame
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[18:16:01] <ssi> have you worked with altera fpga tools at all?
[18:16:33] <ssi> probably a silly question, since you obviously like xilinx products :)
[18:18:26] <pcw_home> Not recently
[18:22:51] * cpresser used to work aith altera
[18:23:04] <cpresser> ~with
[18:23:46] <cpresser> the only reason why i choose altera is because the company i was working for at that time used it :)
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[20:30:21] <frallzor> JT-Shop
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[21:07:18] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[21:42:25] <GammaX-Shop> hey guys, what do you think about this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOGAN-6-3-JAW-LATHE-CHUCK-w-2-1-4-PLAIN-MOUNT-430-/140981256886?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item20d32342b6
[21:45:50] <JT-Shop> frallzor:
[21:46:12] <frallzor> JT-Shop allmost working now
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[21:47:34] <frallzor> minor things to fix in the VFD itself now
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[22:02:43] <JT-Shop> cool
[22:04:08] <frallzor> but it works, just need to make sure vfd starts in automode. currently it start in manual mode=)
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[22:07:39] <JT-Shop> is that something you can configure in the drive?
[22:08:06] <frallzor> yup, connecting a digital pin
[22:08:40] <frallzor> physically and in software to say the pin = autostart
[22:09:05] <frallzor> takes like 2 minutes and boom, done
[22:10:00] <JT-Shop> cool
[22:10:29] <frallzor> but still pretty fun to see the machine start by itself now and turn off =)
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[22:26:34] <JT-Shop> that used to bug me on the Analim no spindle control
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[22:30:57] <toastydeath> GammaX-Shop, used three jaws are really hit or miss
[22:31:10] <toastydeath> if you have the choice get one with soft top jaws
[22:32:00] <toastydeath> even if the thing's chewed up, soft jaws will guarantee you a high degree of concentricity
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