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[02:33:02] <andrewsh> http://imhd.zoznam.sk/ba/media/gn/00134122/Cervena-elektricka-na-zelenej-trati.jpg
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[10:23:55] <freeExec> фии, новые заметки теперь нужно вручную выгружать на сервер :(
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[10:34:20] <Hind> d1g освоил цветной текст 🍭
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[12:48:35] <AMDmi3> выбрал таки себе vps хостинг
[12:48:41] <AMDmi3> нашёл за 150р/мес
[12:48:58] <AMDmi3> удобно
[12:49:37] <AMDmi3> уже заказал вторую и запилил там tor релей
[12:49:56] <AMDmi3> теперь надо перенести туда все мои osm мониторинги и статистики, но лень :(
[12:50:26] <freeExec> а что планируют прикрыть осм?
[12:50:39] <AMDmi3> что?
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[12:52:08] <AMDmi3> а, всмысле osm.rambler? нет, это мои личные мониторинги, они не в рамблере. сейчас они вообще на рабочей машине считаются
[12:52:28] <freeExec> да не, я про связь тор и осм
[12:52:59] <andrewsh> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_Lhl2DXEAANdA4.jpg:large
[12:53:00] <AMDmi3> не, связи нет. просто давно хотел запустить рилей
[12:53:05] <andrewsh> Komzzpa|worrk: ^
[12:53:46] <freeExec> японский остров чтоли
[12:55:06] <andrewsh> таки да
[12:55:36] <andrewsh> PHOTOS: On a remote island in southern Japan, cats outnumber humans six to one. http://reut.rs/1DP7wRJ
[12:56:05] <andrewsh> MOAR http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/gallery/2015/mar/04/japans-cat-island-in-pictures
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[16:01:11] <AMDmi3> кстати, на Россию тайлы теперь раздаются с ssd. тормоза с загрузкой тайлов должны исправиться, если кто их замечал
[16:03:13] <AMDmi3> насколько я могу судить по графикам, у gorynych сейчас десятикратный запас по всем характеристикам
[16:06:30] <freeExec> хотелось бы больше инфографики, кто откуда что смотрит
[16:06:49] <AMDmi3> http://dns.openstreetmap.org/tile.openstreetmap.org.html ?
[16:08:31] <freeExec> ну это очень грубо, вот хотя бы по регионам
[16:08:55] <gryphon> молодцы, яндекс - друг
[16:09:00] <freeExec> и это кто, а что они смотрели
[16:09:21] <AMDmi3> каким регионам? CDN не умеет в гранулярность меньше страны
[16:09:47] <freeExec> ну вот нужна статистика по тайлам
[16:10:23] <freeExec> IP -> URL/Tile
[16:11:04] <AMDmi3> ага, щас
[16:11:12] <AMDmi3> с 30k запросов в секунду
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[16:13:08] <freeExec> агрегировать в квадраты 5 зума
[16:13:33] <freeExec> или хочешь сказать, таких логов вообще нет?
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[16:14:03] <AMDmi3> ради чего?
[16:15:15] <AMDmi3> логов искренне надеюсь что нет, иначе было бы очень глупо
[16:15:22] <gryphon> если нужны просто красивые графики, то есть munin
[16:18:27] <AMDmi3> тут речь о подробной статистике. только смысла в ней я не вижу
[16:18:56] <AMDmi3> и скорее всего она будет чуть более чем полностью кореллировать либо с качестком отрисовки либо с населением
[16:25:19] <freeExec> ну тогда мапбокс приводил такую штуку, и нашлись места куда смотрели, но там было плохо отрисовано
[16:25:58] <AMDmi3> значит будут смотреть, видеть что плохо отрисовано и рисовать
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[16:26:32] <edward17> Мда...
[16:27:28] <edward17> Нашёл в своём телефоне, в Заметках, запись "пн-пт 8:00-12:30"
[16:27:57] <edward17> И думаю, к какому заведению это относится...
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[16:30:02] <freeExec> дык надо геозаметки :)
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[16:32:33] <freeExec> о! АМД уже в твиттере цитируют :)
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[16:40:31] <edward17> freeExec: я обычно как Заметки в OSMAnd сохраняю
[16:41:01] <edward17> А тут, видимо, времени не было
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[18:39:12] <freeExec> напоминаю, что сегодня четверг :)
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[18:54:40] <AMDmi3> а что четверг?
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[19:07:13] <Hind> AMDmi3: OSM-радио же
[19:07:21] <Hind> Сегодня праздник у ребят, ликует пионерия
[19:07:21] <AMDmi3> а, тьфу
[19:07:37] <Hind> Сегодня в гости к нам пришел Лаврентий Палыч Берия!
[19:07:43] <Hind> То есть, mourner
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[22:18:45] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> Я дико извиняюсь
[22:18:48] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> а эфир во сколько?
[22:19:15] <muz1kand> 23 же, не?
[22:19:32] * ooprizrakoo|wrk посыпал голову пеплом
[22:20:24] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> по m3u хорошая музыка идет) а я думаю,) чего это так)
[22:22:00] <muz1kand> В тви обещана дискотека была -
[22:22:05] <muz1kand> это она и есть)
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[22:27:55] <Hind> Связность сети нарушалась, и несколько минут мы сидели на своем #osm-ru :3
[22:29:02] <muz1kand> о_О
[22:29:15] <Hind> Это иногда случается
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[22:52:41] <Zverik> уже 12 слушателей
[22:52:56] <edward17> Буду 13-тым)
[22:53:07] <Zverik> неа, 1 отвалился
[22:55:16] <Zverik> а-а-а, две с половиной страницы вопросов
[22:55:33] <edward17> Zverik: это хорошо?
[22:55:53] <Ergo> Пора уже плагин now playing к каналу прикручивать. Негоже народ держат в неведении )
[22:56:06] <edward17> Zverik: насчёт полигонов на share.MapBBcode что-то известно?
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[22:58:16] <Zverik> edward17: не было времени, на выходных посмотрю
[23:00:02] <edward17> Эх, ни у кого нет времени. И у меня тоже :(
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[23:01:04] <Hind> В эфире тишина
[23:01:19] <edward17> Hind: возможно, так надо
[23:01:23] <Hind> О
[23:01:33] <muz1kand> А где музычка?
[23:01:36] <Hind> Есть музычка
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[23:01:44] <muz1kand> ой, да
[23:01:47] <dkiselev> привет котаны
[23:01:47] <Hind> Привет гуру джиэса!
[23:01:48] <vvoovv> начали
[23:01:54] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> Привет)
[23:02:05] <Hind> Вот это поворот
[23:02:09] <vvoovv> гуру лифлета
[23:02:52] <dkiselev> к черту новости, пусть Владимир нам сыграет и споет :)
[23:02:59] <Hind> Опять?
[23:03:13] <dkiselev> да ну, не может быть?
[23:03:17] <vvoovv> а когда до этого пел
[23:03:20] <vvoovv> ?
[23:03:23] <dkiselev> вот это поворот
[23:03:49] <dkiselev> Ну, хотябы сыграет :)
[23:03:50] <Hind> Я про бан
[23:04:30] <vvoovv> до этого на форуме у него бан был
[23:04:39] <vvoovv> тобой наложенный
[23:04:43] <Hind> Ах, вот оно что
[23:04:53] <edward17> Ахах
[23:05:21] <Hind> Я за вики не слежу, почему-то думал, что его и там приголубили
[23:05:23] <dkiselev> d1g никого не оставит равнодушным
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[23:05:32] <Mourner> опана
[23:05:47] <Hind> Привет :3
[23:05:48] <iav_work> какой урл потока?
[23:05:57] <iav_work> тот, с :8000?
[23:06:06] <edward17> Да
[23:06:14] <muz1kand> http://tile.osmz.ru:8000/osmru.m3u
[23:06:17] <Hind> http://tile.osmz.ru:8000/osmru
[23:06:29] <Hind> Это написано внутри m3u
[23:06:43] <vvoovv> http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Mourner
[23:07:00] <edward17> Zverik: ссылку в сту... в чат
[23:07:08] <vvoovv> что за редактор upload.py
[23:07:16] <iav_work> похоже, у меня нестандартные порты закрыли.
[23:07:21] <Zverik> https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/#38.364258/56.903004/6
[23:07:21] <Hind> vvoovv: это его ответ на «JOSM или iD»
[23:07:43] <Hind> Mourner: а ты слышал раньше выпуски радио?
[23:08:15] <Mourner> Hind: чуть-чуть, отрывочно
[23:08:42] <Hind> Блин, полтрансляции пропущу, т.к. надо ехать в метро
[23:08:58] <vvoovv> в метро есть wifi
[23:09:04] <Hind> ну-ну
[23:09:09] <dkiselev> да не все норм
[23:09:29] <Hind> Там постоянно инет пропадает и стабильно отваливается авторизация пару раз за поездку.
[23:09:31] <dkiselev> coub optimism
[23:10:01] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> Фишка Убера - в привязке карты
[23:10:08] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> можно не париться по поводу нала
[23:10:49] <vvoovv> на сколько цена отличается uber и яндекс-такси
[23:11:01] <vvoovv> ?
[23:11:27] <Erelen> А GetTaxi приввязывать карту умеет?
[23:11:39] <Hind> Я в питере катался на яндексе за 300 рублей три раза
[23:11:39] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> цена убера вроде бы зависит от дальности поездки
[23:11:47] <Hind> на расстояния 3-6 км
[23:11:56] <ooprizrakoo|wrk> где-то выгоднее Я.Т, где-то Гет, где-то Убер
[23:12:07] <vvoovv> щас такие же новости - ура нас используют
[23:12:30] <Erelen> Я.Такси раньше умело Я.деньгами в один клик оплачивать (а опосредованно - и с любой карты, привязанной к Я.Деньгам) и было очень удобно. А в версии 3 разучились с обещанием вернуть.
[23:12:59] <Hind> Например, релиза 1.0 :3
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[23:20:26] <Hind> Я сейчас уйду, поэтому спрошу заранее
[23:21:06] <Hind> Насколько глубоко ты знаешь JS? Скажем, предугадать, какие места будут оптимизированы тем или иным движком, а какие нет?
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[23:25:08] <iav_work> считает ли он свою тулзу конкурентной векторным тайлам, или что они будут сосуществовать "пока не исчезнут машины"?
[23:30:10] <dkiselev> из леерсов бы нормальное связывание с данными
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[23:31:14] <Zverik> то есть?
[23:31:50] <dkiselev> В леерсах нет такого понятия как просто маркер
[23:32:07] <dkiselev> в леерсах маркер - это всегда представление данных
[23:33:34] <dkiselev> а то блин приходится писать всякие костыли типа получения маркера у попапа через приватные поля
[23:34:22] <dkiselev> и данные к маркеру привязывать как L.marker(blah_blah).data = {blah:blah}
[23:34:24] <muz1kand> наоборот может?) попапа у маркера?)
[23:35:33] <dkiselev> не, если ты подписываешься на события попапа, то тебе нужно выдрать для него соответсвующий маркер
[23:35:50] <muz1kand> а! вот о чем
[23:35:50] <dkiselev> или держать данные в замыканих прости госпади
[23:36:12] <dkiselev> А а а а apply
[23:38:32] <dkiselev> Зверик, а у тебя?
[23:38:54] <Zverik> у меня примерно так же :)
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[23:39:47] <dkiselev> черт, хочу в мапбокс
[23:40:13] <dkiselev> А триангуляция с ограничениями?
[23:40:19] <dkiselev> дырки поддерживает?
[23:41:19] <vvoovv> как правильно говорить геоджейсон или джиоджейсон?
[23:42:01] <edward17> Геожсон :)
[23:42:07] <muz1kand> Во!
[23:42:14] <shurik> геойсон
[23:42:31] <muz1kand> 2 чая господину
[23:43:01] <muz1kand> ыы!
[23:44:10] <dkiselev> А с мапзеном вы общаетесь/пересекаетесь?
[23:45:35] <edward17> http://i.imgur.com/FPhh0cL.jpg
[23:46:04] <muz1kand> :)
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[23:51:51] <dkiselev> Ява! :)
[23:52:05] <dkiselev> Ява же !!!
[23:52:47] <ooprizrakoo> Да пишите на C# или Qt
[23:53:06] <Zverik> dkiselev: ява никому не нужна :)
[23:53:12] <dkiselev> Ой да ладно, на яваскрипте тоже можно написать таких строчек, что ничего не закрешится но приложение превратится в тыкву
[23:53:25] <dkiselev> сишарп в топку
[23:53:54] <dkiselev> и не слова про моно, не работает это говно
[23:54:07] <vvoovv> на питоне надо писать
[23:54:25] <ooprizrakoo> можно на питоне
[23:55:07] <dkiselev> груви, скала
[23:55:19] <Zverik> да скоро .net будет под линукс
[23:55:41] <muz1kand> Сплюнь)
[23:55:55] <dkiselev> будет то может и будет но к этому времени народ уже на яваскрипт перейдет
[23:56:28] <dkiselev> а то и еще на что покрепче, на го какойнибудь
[23:57:28] <edward17> Zverik: JOSM или iD?
[23:57:50] <vvoovv> edward17: уже узнали - upload.py
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[23:58:32] <edward17> Нет такого сайта :(
[23:58:41] <muz1kand> это не сайт)
[23:59:03] <Ergo> Домен не продлили )
[23:59:04] <edward17> Название похоже на инструмент для массовых импортов
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