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[10:55:02] <andrewsh> норот, скажите вот, х86-талбетка за €49 — это ок? имеет смысл?
[10:55:10] <andrewsh> Komzzzpa:
[10:56:01] <andrewsh> вроде даже рутабельная
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[10:58:03] <andrewsh> op3n dott это чудо зовётся
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[11:09:26] <Komzzpa|worrk> andrewsh: покажь
[11:09:41] <Komzzpa|worrk> andrewsh: вообще, не факт, к сожалению
[11:10:22] <andrewsh> оно гуглабельно
[11:10:29] <andrewsh> я с мобилы, увы
[11:11:10] <andrewsh> выглядит ок, продавалось месяц за стовку
[11:11:22] <Komzzpa|worrk> я не вижу, зачем оно
[11:11:40] <andrewsh> я тоже не вижу, но мало ли :)
[11:12:04] <andrewsh> поставить линупс :)
[11:12:23] <andrewsh> хотя там же ж небось дурное ефи
[11:12:40] <andrewsh> или ещё какая бяка
[11:12:50] <Komzzpa|worrk> зачем?
[11:13:03] <Komzzpa|worrk> зачем курочить готовый продукт ради девборда?
[11:13:17] <andrewsh> ради девборда же
[11:13:31] <andrewsh> :)
[11:13:32] <Komzzpa|worrk> так девбордов же навалом
[11:13:53] <andrewsh> так готовый же ж продукт
[11:13:59] <andrewsh> про дукт
[11:15:24] <andrewsh> мимоходом, xmpp message carbons — сила
[11:15:52] <andrewsh> делают всякие там скайпы тотально ненужными
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[15:28:55] <Hind> Марвох таки разродился номерами домов на стиле
[15:29:01] <Hind> С 19-го зума :|
[15:29:16] <Hind> Ну хоть что-то
[15:34:42] <freeExec> я уж обрадовался - разродился хайрезом 19 зума
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[15:57:22] <Zverik> Hind: на каком слое?
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[17:19:27] <Hind> Они сошлись. Волна и камень,
[17:19:29] <Hind> Стихи и проза, лед и пламень
[17:19:31] <Hind> Не столь различны меж собой.
[17:19:33] <Hind> ©
[17:19:39] <Hind> Это я про d1g vs wowik :3
[17:19:48] <Hind> Zverik: тот, что у них в вк же
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[17:23:46] <freeExec> а вроде вк отказался же
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[19:03:22] * Komzzpa|worrk иногда жалко, что social skills - редкая штука в россии
[19:04:00] <andrewsh> угу
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[19:23:33] <AMDmi3> сейчас есть какая-нибудь более адекватная замена mod_tile для сервинга тайлов?
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[20:02:49] * Komzzpa|worrk время от времени хочется посылать нахуй людей.
[20:04:00] <Komzzpa|worrk> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28166152 - желающие потравить могут присоединяться
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[20:09:09] * Komzzpa|worrk отчаянно думает, как не эскалировать конфликт и пытается придумать вежливый ответ
[20:09:30] <Komzzpa|worrk> кто-нибудь знает, как это сделать?
[20:10:27] <Komzzpa|worrk> Zverik: я вот знаю, ты умеешь!
[20:11:05] <Komzzpa|worrk> Zverik: что и как можно ответить в той теме, чтобы не чувствовать себя оплёванным? :)
[20:11:16] <Komzzpa|worrk> и не оплевать при этом собеседника
[20:12:12] <Komzzpa|worrk> потому что если люди с 2009 года пытаются поставить там объекты, значит, наверное, им это надо
[20:13:36] <Komzzpa|worrk> и я даже могу объяснить, зачем
[20:13:47] <Komzzpa|worrk> и вижу нормальный выход из ситуации
[20:14:11] <Komzzpa|worrk> но вот в том тоне - невозможно общаться :(
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[20:16:09] <Komzzpa|worrk> AMDmi3: говорят, gopnik от cпутника в моде, но не пробовал
[20:22:17] <AMDmi3> а есть где подробно почитать про настройку репликации базы, а также тюнинга постгри под osm-базу в целом?
[20:22:54] <Komzzpa|worrk> у Фредерика были слайды
[20:23:11] <Komzzpa|worrk> их есть минимум две версии, надо брать обе, во второй исправления к первой
[20:23:32] <Komzzpa|worrk> http://www.geofabrik.de/media/2012-09-08-osm2pgsql-performance.pdf
[20:25:26] <Komzzpa|worrk> AMDmi3: а осмобазу лучше не реплицировать, а на каждом хосте обновлять диффами
[20:25:29] <Komzzpa|worrk> проще поддерживать
[20:25:52] <AMDmi3> я это и имел в виду
[20:26:46] <Komzzpa|worrk> я до сих пор юзаю https://github.com/Komzpa/furry-sansa
[20:27:45] <AMDmi3> pdf'ка это первая версия или вторая?
[20:27:55] <Komzzpa|worrk> вторая
[20:28:09] <Komzzpa|worrk> 2.0 на первом слайде :)
[20:28:20] <Komzzpa|worrk> http://www.geofabrik.de/media/2010-07-10-rendering-toolchain-performance.pdf - первая
[20:28:25] <AMDmi3> аха, спасибо
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[20:28:53] <AMDmi3> а по поводу базы, я всё равно скорее всего свою утилиту писать буду, поэтому мне нужна матчасть
[20:30:18] <AMDmi3> * репликации базы
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[20:43:51] <AMDmi3> там же пофиг на точное соблюдение неперекрываемости диффов? в том смысле что не нужно знать точно какие минутные диффы были накачены,
[20:44:07] <AMDmi3> можно просто накатить днями и оно обновит только те объекты что обновились
[20:44:34] <AMDmi3> т.е. главное только промежуточные обновления не терять
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