#osm-ru | Logs for 2015-02-27

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[00:00:16] <edward17> iD не хорош
[00:00:18] kido is now known as NetWormKido
[00:00:39] <Hind> Спасибо за карту и эфир
[00:00:40] <edward17> NetWormKido: тайна раскрыта
[00:00:41] <Hind> :3
[00:00:44] <Runge> пока
[00:00:49] <Hind> А я сразу догадался
[00:00:53] <NetWormKido> пока
[00:01:04] <Hind> Лол
[00:01:09] <NetWormKido> чё там годать-то
[00:01:18] <Hind> А теперь о погоде
[00:01:21] <Hind> Где Котяра
[00:01:24] <Hind> Ну вот
[00:01:26] <iav_work> спасибо
[00:01:33] <Hind> Зря вы вот это вообще
[00:01:35] <muz1kand> Спасибо за эфир)
[00:01:38] <Hind> Афтепати это хорошо
[00:01:51] <Ergo> Спасибо
[00:01:52] <Hind> Стив кост 2
[00:01:55] <edward17> Первую букву скажи)
[00:01:57] <muz1kand> Ы!
[00:02:04] <muz1kand> На русском это отлично)
[00:02:22] <Hind> Видимо, угадал
[00:02:27] <edward17> Виктор vsherb?
[00:02:33] <NetWormKido> уже был
[00:02:37] <edward17> Ой, или как его ник
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[00:03:01] <Runge> Hind: пожалуйста )
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[00:03:39] <Hind> :3
[00:03:43] <vvoovv> всё
[00:03:43] <Ergo> Короче, ждём Аганфонкина. Уже решиили. )
[00:03:45] <Hind> А музыки не было
[00:03:59] <Zverik> музыка была, но гибла под шумом :)
[00:04:06] <Hind> Шум кстати можно легко убрать
[00:04:07] <Zverik> сейчас буду обрабатывать, попробую очистить
[00:04:13] <Hind> Тем же аудасити
[00:04:15] <Hind> Или как он там
[00:04:20] <Hind> Снять паттерн с паузы
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[00:04:36] <Hind> Он точно это умеет, я делал в нем
[00:04:39] <edward17> Runge: как там отношения public_transport=stop_area, из которых берётся имя для их членов с ролью platform?
[00:04:52] <edward17> Я когда-то писал об этом в чатике
[00:05:09] <edward17> (речь о MapSurfer)
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[00:05:43] <Runge> edward17: быстрого решения я так и не придумал, а потом забросил вовсе
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[00:06:47] <edward17> Runge: понятно
[00:07:16] <Hind> Позовите vctos на радио :3
[00:07:33] <Hind> Вдруг он готовит покетгис для ios
[00:07:33] <edward17> Hind: откуда он?
[00:07:46] <Hind> Не знаю точно
[00:08:13] <Hind> Ezhick запропал совсем
[00:08:27] <edward17> Спасибо за эфир, всем пока)
[00:08:29] <vvoovv> кстати новая версия openrouteservice на openlayers
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[00:09:03] <vvoovv> vctos был актуален в апреле-мае 2010 во время битвы за милитари
[00:10:02] <vvoovv> потом vctos как то сдулся
[00:10:07] <Hind> Но тогда не было радио
[00:10:20] <vvoovv> тогда и Зверика не ьыло
[00:10:23] <Hind> Или навикеевцев
[00:10:24] <vvoovv> не было
[00:10:39] <Hind> Мне интересно, за счет чего они существуют
[00:10:47] <Hind> И что у них в планах
[00:11:06] <vvoovv> хотя в этом году будет юбилей - 5 лет битвы за милитари
[00:11:20] <Hind> День победы
[00:11:36] <Hind> Осмофейерверк
[00:11:36] <Zverik> кого-нибудь из старичков было бы интересно допросить, да
[00:11:57] <Zverik> я всё пытаюсь wowik вытащить, но ему по времени неудобно
[00:12:17] <vvoovv> позвать liosha, он видел ОСМ в 2007 году
[00:12:47] * Hind видел liosha в 2015
[00:12:58] * Zverik видел Hind в 2014
[00:13:19] <vvoovv> я видел москву почти без улиц в феврале 2008
[00:13:25] * Hind видел Hind в 2015
[00:14:19] <Hind> Zverik: по запросу Большие кошаки поисковики теперь находят mapbbcode
[00:14:31] <vvoovv> кстати 4 марта - день создания русского форума
[00:14:38] <Hind> А конкретно, твой пример
[00:15:17] <vvoovv> вот первая запись на форуме http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1786#p1786
[00:15:25] <Hind> Оказалось еще, что Большие коты — это не коты, а кОты
[00:15:37] <Runge> Zverik: а про какую опечатку на сайте мапсерфера ты говорил?
[00:15:42] <Hind> Колодки каторжников, кажется, так назывались
[00:16:48] <Zverik> Runge: Exacutable
[00:17:16] <Runge> Zverik: там все правильно. это экзешник для mono
[00:17:23] <andrewsh> Runge: ‘a‘
[00:17:26] <andrewsh>
[00:17:26] <andrewsh>
[00:17:38] <Runge> он распаковывает и устанавливает пакет
[00:17:49] <Runge> andrewsh: ?
[00:17:52] <andrewsh> в этом слове не должно быть ‘a’
[00:18:28] <Runge> ах. спасибо )
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[00:48:24] <Zverik> http://radio.osmz.ru/all/26-fevralya-maksim-rylov/
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[10:26:06] <postgresql98> ээээ
[10:26:09] <postgresql98> чуваки
[10:26:38] <postgresql98> где мне взять ЛУЧШИЙ гайд на тему "я нашёл незамапленное место с новостройками и хочу добавить его в базу"
[10:26:47] <postgresql98> чтоб норм получилось
[10:27:05] <postgresql98> я перестал платить за мобильную связь и катаюсь теперь по мепс виз ми
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[14:35:46] <Zverik> ну что, москвичи, звоните мне в воскресенье с марша, встретимся, поговорим (снова :)
[14:38:42] <Zverik> ‎Lyx (Talk | contribs) blocked Xxzme (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 month (account creation disabled) ‎(problem to work with community)
[14:40:08] <freeExec> :)
[14:58:48] <Runge> Zverik: а что, http://radio.osmz.ru/ лежит?
[15:04:53] <Zverik> ого, сколько соединений
[15:05:08] <Zverik> процессы httpd выели всю память
[15:08:24] <Zverik> Runge: всё, перезапустил
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[15:10:33] <Hind> В Марьино сохранились непрямоугольные домики: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27118423
[15:11:22] <Hind> А чуть правее вообще какой-то адок
[15:11:36] <Hind> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28087080
[15:12:11] <Hind> Кстати, с бингам там контур читается просто идеально
[15:12:14] <Hind> с бинга*
[15:12:37] <Hind> Можно по снимку парковочные места мапить
[15:19:03] <freeExec> Hind: ну что я к субботе смогу распечатать walking-pappers
[15:19:58] <Hind> Я могу напечатать в стиле amdmi3
[15:20:10] <Hind> но я пока не знаю, буду ли я
[15:20:16] <Hind> Могу PDFки запилить
[15:20:23] <freeExec> лучше сделай стиль
[15:20:30] <Hind> Стиль-то есть
[15:20:38] <Hind> А, ты про конвертирование в мапник
[15:20:41] <freeExec> да
[15:35:32] <Zverik> да-да, запилите обходные листы
[15:37:14] * freeExec как всегда в мучениях пытается скомпилить, на этот раз py2cairo
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[16:12:22] <Runge> судя по сему http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/26/net-core-open-source-update-february-26-2015.aspx , мелкософт вплотную взялся продвижением .net под линукс и мак
[16:21:04] <Hind> Komzzpa: у тебя rgba не поддерживается и четырехбайтовых хексколоров нету
[16:21:37] <Hind> В общем, komap сделал страшный 4 МБ файл из мапксс-стиля в 7 КБ
[16:21:44] <Hind> я не знаю, нормально это или нет
[16:22:01] <Hind> Кажется, стиль мапника слишком сильно привязан к конкретной БД
[16:22:11] <Hind> то есть там нужно хардкордить названия таблиц прямо в стиль
[16:26:51] <Komzzpa|worrk> Hind: да, ему надо указывать конкретно
[16:27:04] <Komzzpa|worrk> Hind: а зачем тебе rgba? opacity же
[16:27:05] <Hind> но я же не знаю, какие у Зверика названия
[16:27:22] <Komzzpa|worrk> Zverik: ^^
[16:27:26] <Hind> Komzzpa|worrk: ну в стиле используются всякие #000000c0
[16:27:36] <Komzzpa|worrk> Hind: что за жуть?
[16:28:00] <Komzzpa|worrk> 4 мб стиль - нормально, но будет медленновато
[16:28:07] <Hind> А что такого, цвет с альфой обычный
[16:28:19] <Zverik> у меня стандартная база для openstreetmap-carto
[16:28:25] <Zverik> плюс пара полей для veloroad
[16:28:31] <Hind> Если б еще знать, что это такое
[16:28:40] <Hind> в общем, в дефолтном конфиге вот так: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kothic/kothic/master/src/komap.conf
[16:28:59] <Hind> мне кажется, сконвертировать стиль может только тот, кто держит базу
[16:29:06] <Hind> при таких вводных
[16:29:28] <Komzzpa|worrk> это, в общем-то, recommended defaults
[16:29:34] <Hind> Ну кот знает
[16:30:04] <Komzzpa|worrk> а вот абсолютные пути - они да
[16:30:08] <Hind> мапник не нужен, в общем
[16:30:11] <Hind> :3
[16:30:32] <Komzzpa|worrk> Hind: ничего лучше до сих пор не сделали :3
[16:30:48] * Komzzpa|worrk косится на Runge
[16:31:01] <Hind> Там стили в еще одном волшебном формате
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[16:31:10] <Zverik> ну, user у меня другой (кажется, zverik), никаких дополнительных файлов нет (хотя можно вытащить костлайны из osm-carto, они в /home/zverik/get-veloroad/osm/data/world-boundaries
[16:31:18] <Hind> А alacarte умееь из какой-нибудь БД брать что-нибудь?
[16:34:02] <Komzzpa|worrk> нет
[16:34:30] <Hind> Грустно всё это
[16:34:52] <Komzzpa|worrk> а то
[16:36:03] <Komzzpa|worrk> в carto комбинаторный взрыв тоже есть при конвертации в mapnik
[16:36:19] <Komzzpa|worrk> правда, наступает чуть позже
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[16:36:46] <Hind> Можно рендерить в mapsme или josm :3
[16:37:13] <Komzzpa|worrk> о, в maps.me ограничения ещё веселее :)
[16:39:00] * Hind lost his faith in catkind
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[16:49:10] <Runge> в следующем релизе мапсерфера будет доступен веб компонет для Linux, т.е. можно будет запускать веб сервис.
[16:51:03] <freeExec> Runge: а у тебя там как с печатью большой карты на несколько листов?
[16:51:19] <Runge> в растре?
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[17:30:29] <freeExec> Runge: ээ в карте :)
[17:31:37] <Runge> freeExec: не совсем понял про что идет речь ((
[17:32:42] <freeExec> ну карту распечатать
[17:32:54] <Runge> из приложения имеется в виду?
[17:33:56] <freeExec> да из студии
[17:34:56] <Runge> пока не представляется возможным. но есть возможность сохранить в виде огромного растровго файла и затем его где-нибудь и как-нибудь распечатать
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[20:21:28] <andrewsh> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s851x315/11025746_1074618042552222_207885008899881653_n.jpg?oh=5c63c9df72660a54f3abdfc143265ce4&oe=55835B8B&__gda__=1434531126_a0ffe55a919c5c60ca02b9b7f14d48ab
[20:21:33] <andrewsh> Komzzpa|worrk, Zverik
[20:22:25] <andrewsh> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s180x540/11017684_912078742156764_1013884983731571625_n.jpg?oh=5d06cd6a3b7d266cba916dcaaaefecfe&oe=55860F59&__gda__=1435837156_cb07d121d1bf5283fab71470341b407d
[20:22:36] <andrewsh> https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s261x260/10995486_10203642864943154_7656720982215707724_n.jpg?oh=96b71e5a6799709d5c922487836faa8d&oe=554FB2AA
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[22:49:51] <Hind> Zverik: ты поменял стиль балунов на share.mapbb?
[22:50:27] <Hind> Или я просто впервые увидел, как они выглядят с подписями меньше 3 символов..
[22:50:41] <Zverik> Hind: впервые увидел :)
[22:50:53] <Hind> :3
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