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[00:05:46] <Zverik> скопировал за сегодня: Escaflowne, SaiKano, RahXephon, Hellsing, DiGi Charat
[00:08:02] <Erelen> Zverik: zverik@textual.ru в роле jabber`а ещё актуален?
[00:09:20] <Zverik> Erelen: ага
[00:09:29] <Zverik> я просто не нашёл, как нормально переименовать jabber id :)
[00:09:41] <Zverik> в качестве почты, впрочем, тоже актуален, там редирект элементарно делается
[00:10:35] <Erelen> Поставим вопрос по-другому: какой IM тебе более удобен? (если то, что я отправил jabber`ом на zverik@textual.ru не доставилось почему-то).
[00:11:49] <Zverik> странно. Сейчас проверю — наверное, на работе забыл выключить
[00:12:33] <Erelen> Умеренно странно: я отправлял с hangouts и у него прогрессирующее разжижение связности с jabber`ом.
[00:12:42] <Zverik> хм, нет. Наверно, проблема в hangouts
[00:12:49] <Zverik> я обычно по скайпу со всеми говорю
[00:12:56] <Zverik> или irc в личке :)
[00:13:22] <Zverik> irc у меня перманентный, сервер ведёт все логи и показывает, кто что сказал за время отсутстви
[00:16:19] <Erelen> Пусть Скайп будет. Запрос авторизации я отправил.
[00:17:37] <Zverik> Erelen: zverikk с двумя k :)
[00:18:38] <Erelen> Copy-paste не ошибается. И оно подтверждает, что тот контакт, который я добавил и которому написал "Пинг", зовёт себя "Ilja Zverev".
[00:18:54] <Zverik> хм, у меня ничего не появилось
[00:19:20] <Erelen> ...но у Skype врождённое разжижение связности :)
[00:21:05] <Erelen> Если не затруднит, не можешь попробовать со своей стороны вантуз применить? Добавить "erelen" и что-нибудь туда написать.
[00:21:11] <Zverik> нда. Hangouts изолировался от нормальной сети jabber (с несколькими другими я нормально общаюсь), у skype тоже где-то разрыв сети
[00:22:27] <andrewsh> Erelen: hangouts зло
[00:22:36] <andrewsh> он тупо не работает
[00:22:52] <Erelen> Конечно! Только WhatsApp! Он недавно даже на десктопе появился.
[00:22:59] <andrewsh> нет же
[00:23:13] <andrewsh> хотя воцап у меня есть (один человек там только)
[00:23:28] <andrewsh> надо просто завести обычный жаббер
[00:23:36] <Erelen> Но я очень нерепрезентативен: у меня почему-то работает уже много лет. Да, потеря нормальной связности с jabber`ом мне печальна.
[00:23:50] <andrewsh> как много? хангаутсу ж года два
[00:23:54] <andrewsh> или сколько
[00:24:00] <Erelen> Ранее он был GTalk`ом.
[00:24:07] <andrewsh> гталк != хангаутс
[00:24:22] <andrewsh> хангаутс с самого начала позиционировалось как не-жаббер
[00:24:27] <andrewsh> и с жаббером не совместимое
[00:24:38] <Erelen> Ок, вот этим всем я пользуюсь несколько лет :) Частично в нём связность с jabber`ом сохраняется.
[00:24:38] <andrewsh> гталк более или менее ок
[00:24:52] <andrewsh> нет, в нём связность только внутри себя
[00:25:09] <andrewsh> если ты им пользуешься именно как хангаутсом
[00:25:42] <Erelen> Но если к нему прицепиться jabber`ом, то будут доставляться сообщения и от jabber`ов.
[00:25:45] <andrewsh> если ты залезешь через xmpp, что-то может пропердеться
[00:25:56] <andrewsh> ну да, но нестабильно
[00:26:32] <andrewsh> оно пролазит обычно в том случае, если абонент на @gmail.com
[00:26:38] <andrewsh> хоть и не хангаутовый
[00:27:12] <Erelen> У меня и с jabber.ru пролезает.
[00:27:33] <andrewsh> ты везуч
[00:27:55] <andrewsh> я просто ушёл
[00:28:06] <andrewsh> решилась кроме этой и другая проблема
[00:28:23] <andrewsh> что все «круги» у меня автомагически в контактах, но с фейковыми адресами
[00:28:26] <andrewsh> больше нет
[00:33:34] <Erelen> Ну а у меня так получилось, что среди меня и основного круга общения он стал основным мессенджером :) Просто стечение (местами направляемое ;) обстоятельств.
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[12:30:58] <Runge> всем привет. сборка mapsurfer'а для linux (mono) готова. завтра-послезавтра постараюсь выложить ее вместе с описанием процесса установки и запуска. буду рад любым желающим потестировать. :)
[12:56:19] <Komzpa|work> ураа
[12:58:10] <freeExec> да ещё и МС на гитхаб исходники выложила
[13:00:07] <Runge> freeExec: ага, MS удивляет каждый день
[13:02:50] <Runge> следующим шагом планирую реализовать поддержку
http://owin.org/ , чтобы можно было с легкостью разворачивать веб сервисы на разных веб серверах.
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[13:33:36] <MaximD|w> У кого-нибудь есть под рукой настроенный mod_tile? Поделитесь любым файликом тайлового кэша. для теста.
[13:33:57] <MaximD|w> Runge: ждем-ждем =)
[13:44:16] <dos65> MaximD|w: а чего бы с osm.org не взять?)
[13:46:51] <MaximD|w> dos65: а где их там добыть? мне ж не png'шки, а именно метатайлы в формате mod_tile
[13:47:56] <dos65> а
[13:48:00] <dos65> куда кинуть?
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[13:51:02] <dos65> MaximD|w:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_hfYBBmlmwqMW0ycjVXYkJCWWs/view?usp=sharing
[13:51:16] <MaximD|w> dos65: о, спасиб!!
[13:52:05] <MaximD|w> dos65: какой к нему путь был?
[13:54:25] <dos65> /var/lib/mod_tile/default/16/0/165/224/102/136.meta
[13:54:50] <MaximD|w> dos65: Спасибо!
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[13:57:50] <dos65> MaximD|w: а что он в meta записывает?
[14:00:18] <MaximD|w> dos65: те же png'шки метатайла + индекс(
https://gist.github.com/orofarne/6edc84df91a08f908373 )
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[14:37:05] <Komzpa|work> MaximD|w: там есть два типа метатайлов, есть ещё пожатые
[14:37:17] <Komzpa|work> MaximD|w: для всяких там жсон-лайк тайлов
[14:38:47] <MaximD|w> Komzpa|work: мне изменяет память, или mod_tile пожатые вообще не поддерживает?
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[14:40:40] <Komzpa|work> MaximD|w: допиливали же, чтобы умел
[14:41:03] <Komzpa|work> на википедийном сервере котиковые тайлы точно гуляли по пожатым flow
[14:41:18] <Komzpa|work> там просто есть ещё ограничение на длину тайла в байтах же
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[15:10:05] <andrewsh> Zverik: акварельная мапка:
http://news.tut.by/society/433795.html
[15:13:08] <andrewsh> ага, это
http://storymap.knightlab.com/
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[17:17:14] <andrewsh> http://моск.jpg.to/
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[19:23:18] <XAN> А напомните, где у нас был сервис обходных листов?
[19:33:15] <XAN> http://fieldpapers.org
[20:01:48] <MaximD|w> ты про
http://walking-papers.org/ ?
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[20:35:55] <Zverik> обходной лист сервисов
[20:43:25] <Erelen> Карта твитов:
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/twitter-map-every-tweet/
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[21:29:35] <XAN> MaximD|w: то старый, он напололвину поломан
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