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[01:56:34] <ooprizrakoo> блин
[01:56:52] <ooprizrakoo> как с контуперными игрушками
[01:56:55] <ooprizrakoo> ещё чуть-чуть и ложусь
[01:56:57] <ooprizrakoo> ога
[01:57:01] <ooprizrakoo> прошло два часа
[01:57:31] <ooprizrakoo> сижу, рисую
[01:57:46] <ooprizrakoo> нарисовал полигон "космос" мчсовский со всеми прибамбасами
[01:58:12] <ooprizrakoo> ностальгия
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[12:00:21] <Zverik> кажется, я последовательно набираю себе поводы для паники. Читаю, вот, про школьное образование
[12:00:38] <Zverik> а ещё же Стив сегодня, но он как-то на второй план ушёл
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[12:13:15] <freeExec> тема будет про уроки ?
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[12:24:03] <Zverik> freeExec: на форуме?
[12:24:49] <freeExec> Zverik: на радио
[12:26:16] <Zverik> а, через неделю можно, хотя не очень понимаю пока, что там можно сказать
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[13:13:28] <freeExec> а есть какой нибудь дебаг у оверпасс?
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[15:53:06] <freeExec> что-то светофорный пропазал перемудрёносложный
[15:54:24] <Zverik> freeExec: ну так если бы был простой, был бы не нужен :)
[15:55:19] <freeExec> ну это в купе с фазами сигналов, которые я хз как использовать, не говоря уже о внесении
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[15:57:21] <Hind> А скиньте ссылку
[15:58:37] <Hind> Если это то, о чём я думаю, можно считать всякую няшную статистику
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[15:59:44] <Hind> Например, для любого подграфа степень влияния светофоров на проезд по нему
[15:59:51] <Hind> При полноте данных в этом подграфе, конечно
[16:01:35] <Hind> Хотя сейчас умные светофоры пошли, они сами что угодно посчитают ^__^"
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[16:07:46] <freeExec> Hind:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Traffic_Signals
[16:08:27] <freeExec> то что лишнии светофоры можно отсекать это конечно хорошо, но качество ввода данных будет хромать
[16:08:42] <freeExec> ну и как революция via через way
[16:08:58] <freeExec> вот только роутеров нет :(
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[16:58:10] <Hind> > а есть картинки было-стало
[16:58:15] <Hind> Есть:
http://что.же.с.нами.стало.jpg.to
[16:58:17] <Hind> :3
[16:59:03] <freeExec> было "фигу" стало, картинка в пропазале
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[18:28:27] <putnik> http://было-стало.jpg.to/ тоже ок =)
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[19:51:29] <andrewsh> Zverik, Komzpa|work:
https://gist.github.com/andrewshadura/45026a8556ecb9c13de2
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[20:19:31] <andrewsh> ха, эта штука не всегда работает
[20:19:32] <andrewsh> странно
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[20:29:04] <andrewsh> сделал кривой workaround
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[22:13:19] <ooprizrakoo> 47 до эфира)
[22:13:33] <ooprizrakoo> если флуктуации магнитного поля Земли не помешают :)
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[22:26:12] <edward17> ooprizrakoo: спасибо!
[22:26:27] <edward17> Я совсем забыл, что сегодня радио... :)
[22:27:21] <Zverik> запустил трансляцию
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[22:35:11] <ooprizrakoo> в мамбле ты пока заглушен
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[22:40:52] <Zverik> да, и буду до конца, если стив придёт
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[22:57:58] <Zverik> а стив придёт: только что созвонились для проверки
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[23:03:08] <edward17> Оххх... Опоздал
[23:03:15] <edward17> Давно началось?
[23:03:49] <muz1kand> ну в 23 видимо
[23:04:05] <muz1kand> я тоже не сначала)
[23:04:31] <edward17> На несколько минут опоздали, не больше
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[23:11:35] <edward17> Сколько людей слушает сейсас радио?
[23:12:21] <vvoovv> я слушаю через m3u
[23:12:33] <Otnow> http://tile.osmz.ru:8000/status.xsl
[23:12:43] <vvoovv> мамбл сегодня не работает
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[23:13:11] <vvoovv> щас Стива услышим
[23:13:30] <edward17> Где фанфары?
[23:13:33] <ooprizrakoo> Ребят, попробуйте тезисно ответы Коста переводить
[23:13:37] <muz1kand> Ту-ту-ту
[23:13:46] <vvoovv> ну?
[23:13:55] <vvoovv> hi guys
[23:14:00] <vvoovv> привет пацаны
[23:14:15] <vvoovv> как дела?
[23:14:24] <vvoovv> как у вас в россии?
[23:14:30] <edward17> However, the latest question: JOSM or iD?
[23:14:32] <vvoovv> идет снег у стива
[23:14:56] <vvoovv> зверик был очень скромным в 2011
[23:15:17] <trolleway> снег идёт на обходные листы, и записи на них расплываются
[23:15:34] <muz1kand> лазерным принтером пользуйся)
[23:15:43] <trolleway> ручка расплывается
[23:15:47] <muz1kand> аа)
[23:15:53] <vvoovv> стив не хочет тратиться на билеты на сотм в европе
[23:15:55] <unnicked533> Steve, London is the capital of Great Britain!
[23:16:06] <CGI079> Да-да, на улице, на ходу отметки принтером ставить )
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[23:16:47] <muz1kand> чото про конференцииговорят
[23:17:22] <edward17> Ага
[23:17:31] <vvoovv> стив за глобальный сотм, чтобы каждый раз в новом месте
[23:17:42] <trolleway> да, продолжай переводить, со слуха не очень вопринимается
[23:18:01] <vvoovv> иногда у стива просят автографы на сотмах, типа знаменитость
[23:18:05] <edward17> Когда будет SotM где-нибудь в Азии?
[23:18:19] <vvoovv> edward17: уже был в токио 2012
[23:18:43] <edward17> vvoovv: о, круто
[23:18:53] <vvoovv> много запросов на интервью про осм
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[23:22:03] <vvoovv> в листах рассылки все готовы сраться, а в лицо стиву чтото сказать на конференциях боятся
[23:23:52] <vvoovv> в субботу стив делает маппинг пати
[23:24:00] <vvoovv> у стива нет паролей от серверов
[23:27:28] <vvoovv> стив рад, что не был избран в совет
[23:27:41] <vvoovv> в ноябре
[23:27:52] <vvoovv> всё стагнирует
[23:27:55] <vvoovv> ничего не изменить
[23:28:00] <vvoovv> всё тлен
[23:30:43] <vvoovv> Zverik: How did you participate in the decision of Microsoft to provide sattelite imagery for OSM?
[23:31:03] <vvoovv> Zverik: Compare scout and OsmAnd and maps.me
[23:31:20] <vvoovv> Zverik: What is Telenav contribution to OSM besides MapRoulette?
[23:31:35] <vvoovv> Zverik: How is Microsoft involved in OSM at the moment. Will they continue to provide satellite imagery?
[23:31:57] <vvoovv> Zverik: How are you going to approach addressing problem you mentioned in the manifesto?
[23:33:04] <ooprizrakoo> дайте нам свободу и автомат!
[23:33:09] <ooprizrakoo> чтобы нас кто-то услышал)))
[23:33:54] <trolleway> Zverik: Did you using walking papers for mapping in field?
[23:34:21] <trolleway> точнее "use now"
[23:35:35] <vvoovv> в осм очень трудно даже маленькие организационные изменения сделать, в прочем как и в других опен сорс проектах, например, википедия
[23:38:31] <vvoovv> чтобы на главной осм.орг чтото поменять нужны титанические усилия, нужно убедить много людей
[23:40:43] <vvoovv> Zverik: Could you introduce scout mobile app?
[23:42:03] <vvoovv> когда осм начинался, xml был жутко круто
[23:42:15] <vvoovv> а щас xml кажется не самый удачный выбор
[23:42:35] <vvoovv> две строки выше - это Стив сказал
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[23:45:08] <vvoovv> щас несколько компаний делают проекты с осм - mapbox, elekrobit, telenav - это значит что нет такой одной компании, контролирующей осм
[23:46:21] <vvoovv> mapbox: всё не так однозначно, дела у них могут идти не так хорошо как кажется, поживём - увидим
[23:49:30] <vvoovv> как привлечь больше народу в осм?
[23:50:05] <vvoovv> в клаудмейд проводили маппинг пати каждую неделю - не помогло
[23:50:37] <edward17> vvoovv: сломать Google Maps
[23:52:20] <trolleway> привлекли уже всех кого можно
[23:52:51] <unnicked533> Сломать Яндекс Карты. И прочие карты.
[23:53:30] <Otnow> нужно больше инструментов для обычных людей, вроде каталога POI на osm.ru и т.п.
[23:53:35] <san013> санкции как ведут против страны сразу весь мир про осм узнает
[23:53:48] <vvoovv> наоборот - чем больше карт - тем лучше
[23:54:29] <edward17> unnicked533: ага. И на главной странице Яндекс Карт крупными буквами: "Переходите на OpenStreetMap.org"
[23:54:47] <edward17> vvoovv: почему?
[23:55:18] <edward17> Zverik: JOSM or iD? :)
[23:55:42] <vvoovv> edward17: хорошо когда есть выбор, плохо когда выбора нет
[23:56:14] <vvoovv> edward17: потлач
[23:56:35] <edward17> vvoovv: первый)
[23:57:00] <edward17> В смысле Potlatch 1
[23:57:09] <vvoovv> стив: мало чего поменялось в маппинг пати зв 10 лет
[23:57:13] <edward17> Или Potlach 1...
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[23:57:37] <vvoovv> field papers - одна из главных инноваций в маппинг пати
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[23:58:30] <vvoovv> josm или id - хороший вопрос
[23:58:38] <vvoovv> стив задумался
[23:58:55] <vvoovv> хочет уйти от ответа
[23:58:57] <unnicked533> Больше карт - лучше, т.к. пользователь зная, что есть много других карт будет пользоваться поиском и когда-то попадет на осм.
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[23:59:56] <vvoovv> стив не стал отчечать josm или id
