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[00:47:03] <andrewsh> кто-то сломал PicLayer
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[00:47:12] <andrewsh> хваталки почти невозможно схватить
[00:54:57] <Zverik> andrewsh: да и раньше
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[01:03:52] <ooprizrakoo> вот интересно
[01:03:56] <ooprizrakoo> зачем на
http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=13/55.7882/37.5268&layer=MU
[01:04:07] <ooprizrakoo> отображается аэродром на месте Ходынки?
[01:04:27] <ooprizrakoo> ну как-бы он там был примерно 12 лет назад последний самолет там сел
[01:06:51] <ooprizrakoo> " В 2003 аэродром был закрыт и исключён из «Перечня аэродромов совместного базирования РФ»[7]"
[01:07:08] <ooprizrakoo> Распоряжение Правительства РФ от 8 января 2003 года № 6-р.
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[13:03:50] <Junglist> Подскажите, пожалуйста, есть ли какой-то изящный способ узнать сколько улиц примыкает к другой, длинной, улице?
[13:04:14] <Junglist> JOSM ли, либо еще что...
[13:08:03] <freeExec> оверпасом как нибудь можно, я уверен
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[13:33:13] <andrewsh> рекомендую лапласом
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[14:23:26] <Junglist> ну что ж, уже что-то. Лаплас и Оверпас
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[14:54:48] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: а расскажи, что ещё есть кроме мейка для решения зависимостей?
[14:55:37] <freeExec> nuget :)
[14:56:26] <Komzpa|work> а то я тут пишу длинный шеллскрипт, и граф что за чем надо обязательно выполнять уже превысил размеры, укладывающиеся в мозг
[14:56:44] <Runge> freeExec: Microsoft - это же зло :)
[14:58:09] <Runge> freeExec: вот эту штуку видел
https://chocolatey.org/ ?
[14:58:55] <Komzpa|work> в общем-то, есть куча строчек, их надо выполнить в каком-то порядке, у каждой из них есть список каких-то строчек, после которых её надо выполнить
[14:59:00] <freeExec> слыхал, но не вникал, чё за фигня
[14:59:13] <Komzpa|work> звучит, как мейкфайл, но мало ли есть ещё что
[14:59:17] <Runge> типа apt-get для винды
[14:59:49] <freeExec> ставит из гитхаба и компилит?
[15:00:13] <Runge> нет, ставит готовые бинарники и отслеживает обновления.
[15:01:19] <freeExec> Komzpa|work: набор .bat файлов которые выполняются по-порядку
[15:06:41] <Komzpa|work> freeExec: отцепись от меня с виндой своей
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[15:31:21] <andrewsh> Komzpa|work: mk ещё есть, от плана 9 :)
[15:31:38] <andrewsh> Komzpa|work: ну а чем мейк плох-то?
[15:31:52] <andrewsh> в нём же красиво зависимости описываются
[15:31:56] <andrewsh> и паттерны есть
[15:32:07] <andrewsh> чтобы шаблонные действия не писать по сто раз
[15:32:38] <andrewsh> кстати, mk хорош тем, что в нём синтаксис команд вообще шелловый
[15:32:53] <andrewsh> т.е. он команды отдаёт шеллу как есть, без подстановок
[15:33:25] <Komzpa|work> хочется вложенных каталогов
[15:34:37] <Komzpa|work> у меня sql и много таблиц, друг в друга преобразующихся
[15:35:14] <Komzpa|work> и зависимости на самом деле на уровне таблиц и "заполнилась ли эта колонка в той таблице"
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[15:44:16] <andrewsh> так doable тоже же, не?
[15:47:11] <Komzpa|work> хочется няшно и удобно :)
[15:55:16] <andrewsh> вообще вложенные каталоги тоже ж можно
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[16:24:31] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: как?
[16:24:43] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: кроме как мейкфайл с кучей cd
[16:25:07] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: или в таргетах есть слеши?
[16:28:47] <andrewsh> есть, конечно
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[16:44:02] <Zverik> Komzpa|work: звучит как задача для chef
[16:44:16] <Zverik> хотя нет, из другой оперы
[16:45:02] <Komzpa|work> Zverik: chef - это если бы у меня было пять таблиц и десять тыщ серверов
[16:46:09] <andrewsh> Komzpa|work: таргет — строка, которая может быть именем файла
[16:46:26] <andrewsh> хаха:
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5
[16:47:06] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: а как там выполненность шагов отслеживается?
[16:49:36] <andrewsh> для виртуальных таргетов (.PHONY:) не запоминается никак
[16:49:46] <andrewsh> для невиртуальных — по таймстампу файла
[16:50:23] <Komzpa|work> т.е. фигачить && touch ?
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[17:21:58] <andrewsh> Komzpa|work: ага
[17:22:12] <andrewsh> debian/rules когда-то так писались
[17:22:18] <andrewsh> когда не было секвенсера dh
[17:22:28] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: а там есть touch @текущий_таргет?
[17:22:36] <Komzpa|work> или какое-нибудь сокращение под него
[17:22:37] <andrewsh> touch $@ же
[17:23:09] <andrewsh> не забудь ещё про %
[17:23:15] <Komzpa|work> что это?
[17:23:17] <Komzpa|work> :)
[17:23:26] <andrewsh> типа %.komzpa: %.sql
[17:23:37] <andrewsh> <tab>sqlite < $< > $@
[17:24:02] <andrewsh> а потом пишешь a.sql, b.sql, c.sql
[17:24:15] <andrewsh> и говоришь: make a.komzpa b.komzpa c.komzpa
[17:24:28] <andrewsh> и оно зовёт sqlite < a.sql > a.komzpa
[17:24:34] <andrewsh> и так далее
[17:25:19] <Komzpa|work> м, мне зависимости надо трекать сильнее, чем дедуплицировать :)
[17:28:51] <andrewsh> да, ещё штука: -B
[17:28:55] <andrewsh> make -B komzpa
[17:29:12] <andrewsh> будет игнорировать «выполненность» зависимостей
[17:29:18] <andrewsh> и выполнит их в любом случае
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[18:12:04] <Zverik> «Олимпийские чемпионы по спортивной ходьбе ушли из Омска»
[18:14:20] <freeExec> куда?
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[19:21:02] <edward17> Zverik: ушли спортивной ходьбой?
[19:21:22] <edward17> :)
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[20:22:04] <maks|di2> ping?
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[22:35:34] <trolleway> Есть где-нибудь описание, как составлять запрос на геокодинг к сервису на openstreetmap.ru?
[22:42:08] <Zverik> нет. Но есть исходники
[22:53:13] <shurik> там простейший случай что-то типа /api/search?q=запрос
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[22:55:36] <Maks|Di2> какая мерзость, потерять /home впервые за 10 лет
[22:56:10] <shurik> а бэкапы?
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[23:01:20] <Maks|Di2> сокращение расходов
[23:01:46] <Maks|Di2> вначале пришлось отказаться от бэкапов на сервере, потом от самого сервера, а потом и от бэкапов дома
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