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[13:29:38] <andrewsh> ААААА, что стало со зданиями?
[13:29:45] <andrewsh> звери, верните всё взад!
[13:30:13] <andrewsh> какой ужос
[13:33:39] <putnik> АХАХАХАХ. А не будет больше ваших зданий!
[13:34:24] <Komzzpa> andrewsh: ты излишне консервативен
[13:34:39] <Komzzpa> нужно больше тьмы!
[13:49:50] <ooprizrakoo> вы о чем?
[13:53:39] <Erelen> Они все о планомерном раскатывании нового цветового оформления Mapnik`а. По мне так "тоже вариант". (лезёный МКАД среди зелёных лесов мне больше глаз режет :)
[13:55:21] <Erelen> МКАД, очевидно, только пример. Вот тут: http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=12/56.1045/37.9475 прекрасно читается электричка, но приходится искать M8 / A107.
[13:56:04] <Erelen> Даже вот так, на один масштаб раньше, ещё хуже: http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=11/56.1036/37.942
[13:56:27] <Erelen> О, а на 10-м совсем-совсем плохо: http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=10/56.1/37.8918
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[14:12:54] <putnik> В общем, пусть эксперементируют. Хуже старого мапника сделать сложно.
[14:17:15] <ooprizrakoo> эм..
[14:17:19] <ooprizrakoo> зеленое на зеленом...
[14:17:22] <ooprizrakoo> это я про М8
[14:18:41] <ooprizrakoo> и а-107..
[14:19:25] <ooprizrakoo> и ленинградка ужос, да (
[14:20:01] <ooprizrakoo> кстати, я тут гонял по новой трассе, которая "платная"
[14:20:15] <ooprizrakoo> это сказка просто.
[14:20:24] <ooprizrakoo> москва-солнечногорск - 20 минут
[14:20:34] <ooprizrakoo> вместо стандартных полутора-двух часов
[14:21:53] <ooprizrakoo> Вышний Волочёк (70 км) на скорости 180 км/ч проезжается за те же 20 минут.
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[14:57:12] <Maks|ntp> что-то гляжу я в cartocss и оно мне никак не кажется более красивым
[14:57:59] <Maks|ntp> такие лестницы 15-ти этажные для элементарных вещей
[14:58:17] <Maks|ntp> но конечно лучше, чем гольный xml для мапника
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[17:37:15] <karavanjo> привет всем
[17:38:51] <karavanjo> а рельеф мы как-то отображаем в ОСМе? Помнится, когда-то горизонтали рисовали. Кто-то где-то.
[17:39:21] <karavanjo> отображаем - в смысле - рисуем.
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[17:56:29] <ooprizrakoo> karavanjo: можно обозначить "обрыв", например
[17:57:22] <karavanjo> не-не, я не про элементы рельефа, я про собственно рельеф. горизонтали с точками высот мы ж нигде не рисуем, чтоб карту не засорять, правильно?
[17:59:06] <ooprizrakoo> я нуб, поэтому не подскажу.
[17:59:17] <ooprizrakoo> насколько знаю, у ОСМа только в планах делать карту высот.
[17:59:59] <ooprizrakoo> для среднерусской равнины оно может и не важно, но если ходить по Алтаю/Хибинам/Уралу и тп
[18:00:28] <ooprizrakoo> "ровно было на бумаге, да забыли про овраги"
[18:12:42] <old_Bibigon> ooprizrakoo, овраги как-то вроде обозначались
[18:13:03] <old_Bibigon> а горизонтали обычно берут сторонние, на тех же велокартах с srtm (вроде)
[18:20:33] <Maks|ntp> karavanjo: только специфичный рельеф, самостоятельный, как например овраги или обрывы
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[18:20:47] <Maks|ntp> просто горизонтали - нет
[18:23:05] <Maks|ntp> точки высот - если там стоит тригопункт, то его, просто отметки высоты на срезах - нет
[18:23:28] <karavanjo> ага, Maks|ntp так и думалось
[18:23:32] <karavanjo> всем спасибо
[18:50:04] <Maks|ntp> Что-то никак не могу понять, как задать порядок отрисовки объектов в cartocss в пределах одного слоя
[18:52:25] <Maks|ntp> как бы я не менял порядок их определения, они всё равно рисуются рандомно
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[19:10:07] <Kilkenni> karavanjo: old_Bibigon прав, SRTM-данные хранятся отдельно и обычно накладываются поверх ОСМ.
[19:10:30] <Kilkenni> на той же велокарте или в османде.
[19:11:38] <Kilkenni> сами по себе горизонтали в базе бесполезны - это лишь способ отображения высотных данных.
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[20:29:48] <jekhor> andrewsh, а что со зданиями не так? Конечно, дефолтный стиль исправит только могила, но хоть что-то..
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[23:43:17] <andrewsh> jekhor: раньше были лучше ведь
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