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[16:07:19] <FSA> Всем доброго времени суток
[16:08:22] <FSA> Не видели-ли вы такого предложения, что на определённо масштабе изменять структуру карты. Искать какие-то мелкие страны на карте совсем нереально.
[16:08:28] <FSA> Приходится искать на яндексе сначала.
[16:14:52] <FSA> Всё-таки до чего неудобен IRC. Чтобы зайти на канал недостаточно просто скопировать ссылку... ещё ещё разбить на части и найти что и куда вбить.
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[16:21:31] <shurik> FSA: при нормальном клиенте всё совсем наоборот
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[16:23:13] <dos65> поиск на страны на осм и потом открыть id?
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[16:25:11] <FSA> dos65: для пользователей неудобно искать
[16:26:23] <FSA> Даже когда знаешь где находится, скложно найти. Это не у нас в России найти, скажем, Свердловскую область.
[16:27:48] <FSA> Хотя нет... там даже не в этом сложность.
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[16:28:13] <FSA> Даже не знаю как сформулировать. Ну и ладно тогда. Пока закрою тему. Нужна формулировка.
[16:29:32] <putnik> FSA, имхо это вопрос о том, что нужно улучшать поиск.
[16:30:44] <FSA> Да я скорее знаю где искать, а вот найти сложно. Поиском только находится.
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[16:32:53] <putnik> «знаю где искать, а вот найти сложно» — это я так Москву на Бинге ищу =)
[16:33:04] <Hind> Кот-то может это сконвертировать в полигон? :3
[16:33:07] <Hind> http://www.mosoblduma.ru/upload/site1/document_file/Ju7uwJi0OY.doc
[16:33:54] <Hind> В осмовскую СК
[16:34:28] <putnik> Ох, МСК-50.
[16:34:40] <Hind> Да
[16:35:02] <Hind> У нас тут Балашиха зохавала Железнодорожный
[16:35:30] <FSA> Я бы сначала данные выгрузил в более удобный формат, а потом нашёл бы программера который про системы координат знает
[16:36:04] <Hind> Да я думаю, в кугисе можно это провернуть. Просто вдруг у кого-нибудь что-нибудь под лапой есть наготове
[16:36:21] <Hind> Данные сконвертировать недолго
[16:36:59] <FSA> Вот я поражаюсь таким бумажным документам. Данные к виду полупригодному приводят, чтобы потом на бумаге распечатать.....
[16:37:02] <Hind> Впервые вижу поворотные точки в координатах
[16:37:12] <Hind> Обычно «пять шагов на север»
[16:37:28] <Hind> Там в соседнем документе так и описано, собственно
[16:37:30] <FSA> Hind: дык щас с навигаторами ходят :)
[16:37:35] <shurik> Hind: я не впервые, года три назад выкладывали границу Москвы, я её конвертил
[16:37:59] <shurik> она там была одновременно в МСК-50 и в МГГТ но в МГГТ было несколько битых участков
[16:38:13] <shurik> а ещё я видел границы заповедника "Бородино" в МСК-50
[16:40:52] <FSA> http://mggt.ru/geo/ogs.html - такое чувство, что ребята сами для себя систему координат придумали
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[17:48:08] <shurik> FSA: МГГТ в отличие от МСК хотя бы несекретна
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[17:49:25] <shurik> Hind: если что могу помочь с МСК
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[19:01:59] <AMDmi3> чёта такое чувстко что к новому году люди надобавляли фейковых улиц в честь себя или своего занятия
[19:02:16] <AMDmi3> но что самое смешное, на деле оказывается что это настоящие улицы
[19:02:31] <AMDmi3> как вам улица Команды КАМАЗ-Мастер?
[19:03:28] <AMDmi3> реальная улица в Набережных Челнах
[19:03:33] <old_Bibigon> AMDmi3, в Челнах? норм
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[19:23:18] <Hind> shurik: спасибо, я уже сконвертировал :3
[19:23:33] <Hind> Правда, получился уход до 3 метров от того, что уже внесено в осм
[19:24:08] <AMDmi3> ну всё, пора потихоньку отбывать в замкадье праздновать
[19:24:10] <Hind> Но главное я увидел — границы не меняют геометрию
[19:24:12] <AMDmi3> весь ру-осм с наступающим, желаю в наступающем году отрисовать как минимум в два раза больше и в два раза подробнее чем в этом, перехода gmaps и я.карт на osm и появления osrm на глагне
[19:24:46] <AMDmi3> streetmangler вот только прогоню последний раз в этом году
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[19:33:49] <shurik> Hind: я когда Москву делал имел возможность выбирать из четырёх версий параметров, выбрал тот где погрешность была вроде бы не больше метра в некоторых отсмотренных мною местах
[19:34:21] <shurik> "появления osrm на глагне" :)
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[21:08:22] <ooprizrakoo> товарищи
[21:08:29] <ooprizrakoo> я нуб в жосме
[21:08:30] <ooprizrakoo> http://gyazo.com/38580c0748497226a3d84ded667b3749
[21:08:38] <ooprizrakoo> это рыбинское водохранилище
[21:09:04] <ooprizrakoo> но здесь через зеленую территорию проходит какая-то голубая граница
[21:09:13] <ooprizrakoo> её видно - прямая линия слева сверху вниз направо
[21:09:24] <ooprizrakoo> не могу понять, как её пофиксить?
[21:11:06] <ooprizrakoo> и что это такое о_О
[21:12:20] <old_Bibigon> похоже заливка от части границы озера
[21:13:41] <ooprizrakoo> не могу понять, как до неё добраться
[21:13:44] <ooprizrakoo> через веб тоже не получается
[21:13:46] <old_Bibigon> кусок линейный, josm его залил для цвета... если так и есть то не страшно
[21:13:48] <ooprizrakoo> такая широкая полоса проходит
[21:14:15] <ooprizrakoo> это именно полоса широкая вроде как
[21:14:28] <old_Bibigon> какие координаты?
[21:14:29] <ooprizrakoo> ниже около Весьегонска ещё одна проходит
[21:14:57] <ooprizrakoo> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/58.6521/37.3563
[21:16:36] <ooprizrakoo> я там свою охотбазу добавил с дорогами
[21:16:53] <ooprizrakoo> а получается тыкнешь влево-вправо - ощущение что база находится на территории рыбинки
[21:17:46] <ooprizrakoo> ощущение что кто-то с заливкой напортачил
[21:18:13] <old_Bibigon> так я и говорю, что скорее всего josm просто с заливкой портачит
[21:19:24] <ooprizrakoo> это не в жосме
[21:19:25] <ooprizrakoo> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/58.6724/37.3847
[21:19:30] <ooprizrakoo> вот в вебе оно тоже
[21:24:50] <ooprizrakoo> я не знаю как пофиксить. вот.
[21:26:32] <old_Bibigon> это заливка, от куска озера северная моста (или перешейка)
[21:27:22] <ooprizrakoo> а как зафиксить?)
[21:27:22] <old_Bibigon> это баг отрисовки редактора - они отношения не умеют выделять, а только кусок рисуют
[21:27:50] <old_Bibigon> а нафига? если водохранилище не ломал, то всё нормально будет
[21:28:21] <ooprizrakoo> ну странно просто
[21:28:31] <ooprizrakoo> вот в редакторе тыкаю по месту где лес должен быть
[21:28:41] <ooprizrakoo> а мне говорят - это не лес, а рыбинское в/х
[21:28:53] <old_Bibigon> хотя... похоже отношения всё-таки правильно отображаются, но надо всё догрузить
[21:29:58] <old_Bibigon> кликни по участку водохранилища и в панеле отношения правой кнопкой на отшении > скачать участвников
[21:33:22] <ooprizrakoo> сделал
[21:33:51] <ooprizrakoo> хм
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