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[14:28:44] <Jim[work]> dctv ghbdtn!
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[15:15:34] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: ybxtuj yt dblyj
[15:19:48] <Jim[work]> !!
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[17:55:40] <Jim[work]> Блин, вот нашлось свободное время, сижу думаю чего бы такого напрограммровтаь для osm и ничего в голову не приходит.
[17:55:56] <Jim[work]> Может есть какие-то таски до которых руки ни у кого не доходят?
[17:56:13] <Jim[work]> попробовтаь реализовать их
[17:58:21] <Komzpa|work> Jim[work]: научи osmupdate есть augmented diffs от overpass
[17:59:13] <andrewsh> а мне хочется мержилку адресов
[17:59:48] <andrewsh> которая будет сканить здания без адресов, находить точки с адресами внутри них и назначать/переносить адреса на билдинги, если возможно
[18:00:06] <andrewsh> снося попутно addr:country
[18:00:24] <andrewsh> и прочие хрени планетарного масштаба
[18:00:56] <Jim[work]> а можздания без адресов // а как узнать здание это или нет?
[18:01:38] <Jim[work]> Komzpa|work> http://overpass-api.de/augmented_diffs/ вот это заставить есть?
[18:02:29] <Jim[work]> сейчас я насколько пнимаю оно умеет только с http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ кушать и подобную структуру, верно?
[18:02:33] <Komzpa|work> Jim[work]: да
[18:02:44] <Jim[work]> просто приучить к другой структуре каталогов?
[18:02:45] <Komzpa|work> Jim[work]: причём сами диффы заявлено, что оно ест
[18:02:46] <Komzpa|work> да
[18:02:57] <Jim[work]> хм, ок. запишем
[18:03:17] <Komzpa|work> ты этим спасёшь гигабайты мест на дисках
[18:03:41] <Jim[work]> а чем оверпассовские диффы отличаются от тех что есть на планете.осм?
[18:04:05] <Komzpa|work> в них есть предыдущее состояние и все ноды-веи, чтобы восстановить геометрию
[18:04:05] <Jim[work]> только структурой и именованием, верно?
[18:04:23] <Jim[work]> ок, изучу вопрос
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[18:07:20] <Jim[work]> Komzpa|work> в итоге хочется, чтобы ./osmupdate old_file.osm --base-url=http://overpass-api.de/augmented_diffs/id_sorted/000/ кушало?
[18:08:15] <Komzpa|work> Jim[work]: это раз
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[18:13:49] <Komzpa|work> Jim[work]: ещё нужен osmupdate TIMESTAMP changefile.osc.gz
[18:13:52] <Jim[work]> Komzpa|work> давай некое подобие ТЗ соорудим с парой примеров где-нибудь? а там уж попробую придумать чего-нибудь
[18:14:20] <Jim[work]> а сейчас разве этот таймштамп не работает?
[18:14:33] <Komzpa|work> с аугментированными - вроде нет
[18:14:35] <Jim[work]> ./osmupdate 2011-02-15T23:30:00Z change_file.osc.gz // из вики
[18:14:39] <Komzpa|work> или уже сделали?
[18:14:44] <Jim[work]> а, с аргументированными
[18:14:49] <Jim[work]> хз
[18:14:59] <Jim[work]> надо почитать как там и что
[18:15:20] <Komzpa|work> в общем, нужен дифф, из которого можно будет узнать, что стёрли, а что надо в базу добавить
[18:17:20] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: ну как, здание — то, что несёт building=yes
[18:17:56] <Komzpa|work> andrewsh: научись уже постгису
[18:18:16] <andrewsh> Komzpa|work: пофиг, постгис или спатиалайт, это кто-то должен написать
[18:18:19] <Jim[work]> andrewsh> найти всё где есть только building=yes, затем откуда-то выдирать адреса и туда добавлять их, попутно удаляя addr:country ?
[18:18:22] <andrewsh> а у меня не доходят руки
[18:18:52] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: найти веи с building=yes и без адреса, в которых лежат ноды с адресами
[18:18:56] <andrewsh> геометрически
[18:19:16] <andrewsh> или же в ходят в них
[18:19:19] <andrewsh> т.е. на границе
[18:19:32] <andrewsh> addr:country удалять не обязательно
[18:20:40] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresses&lon=19.11646&lat=48.57661&zoom=18&overlays=buildings,buildings_with_addresses,postal_code,no_addr_street,street_not_found,nodes_with_addresses_defined,nodes_with_addresses_interpolated,interpolation,interpolation_errors,connection_lines,nearest_points,nearest_roads,nearest_areas
[18:20:45] <andrewsh> например, как здесь
[18:21:01] <andrewsh> домики без адресов, но в них точучки с ними
[18:21:04] <Jim[work]> andrewsh> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173918191 типа такого?
[18:21:55] <andrewsh> типа вот такого: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2923068016
[18:22:33] <andrewsh> с другой стороны, если таких точучек больше, чем одна, в билдинге, и адреса у них разные, то ничего не делать
[18:23:06] <andrewsh> с третьей стороны, если addr:conscriptionnumber у них совпадают, то его напялить на билдинг
[18:23:20] <Jim[work]> давай тоже всё сформулируем да запишем куда-нибудь?
[18:23:30] <Jim[work]> глядишь и сделаем
[18:23:34] <andrewsh> давай
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[18:24:52] <Jim[work]> На форуме где-то тема была аналогичная, емнип
[18:25:23] <Jim[work]> Можно туда запилить, чтобы не потерять
[18:25:29] <Jim[work]> А там уже может ещё кто доберётся
[18:26:00] <andrewsh> https://titanpad.com/4zyI76R1UG
[18:28:19] <Jim[work]> а эти ноды откуда вообще? это попытка импорта адресов?
[18:29:07] <andrewsh> да, это импорт адресов
[18:29:21] <andrewsh> хочу понемногу их причесать
[18:29:31] <andrewsh> тут просто хитрая адресация
[18:29:39] <Jim[work]> хм, ну в целом можно попробовать по регионам такое делать - некоторый bbox указывать и там искать
[18:29:45] <andrewsh> то, что до / — это адрес здания в городе/городской части
[18:29:52] <andrewsh> то, что после — номер на уличе
[18:29:56] <andrewsh> улице*
[18:30:11] <Jim[work]> andrewsh> вот это тоже опиши подробнее
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[18:31:56] <andrewsh> к сожалению, описание есть только по-чешски и по-словацки :(
[18:31:59] <andrewsh> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:WikiProject_Czech_Republic/Address_system
[18:32:31] <andrewsh> http://wiki.freemap.sk/cislabudov
[18:33:54] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: если будешь делать, рекомендую использовать какую-нибудь геодб
[18:34:00] <andrewsh> вроде spatialite или postgis
[18:34:08] <Jim[work]> да в постгисе конечно =)
[18:34:46] <Jim[work]> andrewsh> может подобную фичку и к России применять? Координаты домов надёргать можно
[18:34:54] <andrewsh> оно-то можно на JS написать, чтобы в JOSM работало
[18:35:00] <Jim[work]> как раз в вики на русском описать процесс
[18:35:08] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: в смысле, перенос адресов?
[18:35:14] <Jim[work]> там js или java?
[18:35:14] <andrewsh> вещь полезная, да
[18:35:25] <Jim[work]> не. не перенос а вообще импорт
[18:35:26] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: ну есть плагин для JS
[18:35:38] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: а испорт-то причём
[18:35:44] <andrewsh> о, описка по Фрейду :)
[18:35:49] <Jim[work]> =)
[18:35:51] <andrewsh> заиспортовать данные
[18:36:11] <Jim[work]> ладно в общем дописывай если ещё что-то появится в блокноте
[18:36:18] <Jim[work]> надо подумать
[18:36:48] <andrewsh> а ещё актуальная задача: находить здания вроде http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/127510053#map=19/48.57498/19.12040
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[18:37:08] <andrewsh> я когда-то делал:
[18:37:13] <Jim[work]> а с этим что не так?
[18:37:16] <andrewsh> но там формула хреновая
[18:37:21] <andrewsh> Jim[work]: хвост слева видишь?
[18:37:29] <Jim[work]> ага
[18:37:40] <Jim[work]> типа упрощать полигоны?
[18:37:47] <andrewsh> ещё вот: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/73196311
[18:37:53] <andrewsh> этот домик — инвертированный
[18:38:10] <Jim[work]> оок
[18:38:21] <Jim[work]> ладно пора бежать, завтра буду думать =)
[18:38:21] <andrewsh> ага :0
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