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[08:31:37] <Maks|nord> Zverik: у тебя secondary_link отрисовываются значительно позднее чем secondary, дорога в аэропорт подвисает
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[09:53:50] <putnik> Глупый вопрос: имеет ли смысл на route'ы ОТ вешать opening_hours?
[09:54:21] <freeExec> почему бы и нет
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[12:15:22] <Zverik> Maks|nord: я считаю, что на T-образных примыканиях линки использовать нежелательно
[12:22:32] <freeExec> два вея на влево/вправо или что ?
[12:23:45] <Zverik> freeExec: да, примерно
[12:24:16] <Zverik> по-моему, от отсутствия линков карта на мелких масштабах страдать не должна. То есть, не-линк должен доходить, по крайней мере, до перекрёстка
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[12:28:39] <freeExec> тогда зачем нужны линки ?
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[12:44:33] <Zverik> freeExec: линки связывают несколько дорог. Когда одна дорога втыкается в другую — они сами связаны, без линков
[12:46:02] <freeExec> на большой развязке если не показывать линки тоже будет хрень. но я соглашусь, что при Т-развязке вилка не нужна
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[13:04:09] <Zverik> freeExec: если не показывать линки на большой развязке на z9, то откуда хрень?
[13:06:03] <freeExec> на 9 да, на 12 ещё видно будет мне кажется
[13:06:10] <Zverik> даже на z11. Посмотри КАД:
http://osmz.ru/veloroad.html#11/59.9641/30.2979 Везде всё хорошо, кроме Шафировского (справа вверху под Беляевкой), где сделано неправильно
[13:06:27] <Zverik> а сложнейшие развязки у Дачного и Авиагородка снизу выглядят отлично без линков
[13:07:08] <Zverik> на z12 у меня уже рисуются линки
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[13:12:00] <psha[work]> logger[psha]: .
[13:20:32] <freeExec> нашёл только у Пискарёва огрызки
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[14:12:42] <Zverik> кстати, километровую линейку в последних
http://textual.ru/brevet/victory2014-preview.png и
http://textual.ru/brevet/victory2014s-preview.png я рисую с помощью postgis+mapnik, без фотошопа. Because I can!
[14:13:42] <Zverik> с КП такое, к сожалению, не пройдёт: их в любом случае нужно обрабатывать
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[15:54:17] <muromets> здравствуйте. что-то перестали грузиться тайлы с cloudmade.com а в лифлете в туториале теперь на mapbox.com ссылаются
[15:54:36] <muromets> я правильно понял что надо на мапбокс переходить?
[15:59:35] <Zverik> muromets: cloudmade почил
http://shtosm.ru/all/klaudmeyd-uletel/
[16:00:10] <muromets> понял, спасибо
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[16:00:17] <Zverik> в лифлете ссылаются на мапбокс, потому что его автор работает там. Тайлы можно хоть обычные, с tile.openstreetmap.org, использовать
[16:03:53] <freeExec> эх что-то давно заметко небыло :(
[16:06:23] <Zverik> freeExec: ага
[16:06:40] <Zverik> Sadless переводит подборки на blog.osm.org иногда
[16:07:00] <freeExec> а где их искать ?
[16:13:45] <Zverik> freeExec:
http://blog.openstreetmap.org/?lang=ru (на штосме в левой колонке есть лента)
[16:26:48] <muromets> Zverik: сколько примерно ждать появление тайлов после регистрации на мапбоксе и создании карты там?
[16:27:06] <Zverik> muromets: вроде, сразу должны
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[16:51:20] <muromets> не работает что-то
[17:02:02] <muromets> всё сделал. в туториале у лифлета ошибка :)
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[17:25:22] <Zverik> 3д-домики!!!
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/40.02345/32.92530
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[17:25:42] <Runge> здорово
[17:27:08] <freeExec> а я зонтик не взял
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[17:33:04] <Runge> Zverik: повелся на красивую картинку. это же надо было так надругаться над схемой тегирования )
[17:33:44] <Zverik> Runge: зато работает в mapsurfer! :)
[17:34:00] <Runge> с заборами на крыше
[17:34:06] <Zverik> кстати, интересно, как оно интерферирует с обычными 3д-домиками
[17:34:48] <Runge> причем сравнивая с мапсерфером, сразу видно, что тегирование делалось под стиль на основном слое
[17:36:13] <Runge> а куда делась обводка текста на highway=track? опять эксперименты со стилем или так и задумано ))
[17:39:01] <Zverik> Runge: хм. Её и на secondary нет
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[17:54:59] <Zverik> Runge: на всякий случай, завёл тикет:
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/515
[17:55:34] <Runge> отлично.
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[18:13:35] <andrewsh> ух ты, а как такие панелаки рисуются?
[18:13:40] <andrewsh> с окошками и прочим
[18:14:47] <andrewsh> ЧТО
[18:14:48] <andrewsh> УЖОАС
[18:14:56] <andrewsh> это ж мапник
[18:15:04] <andrewsh> катастрофа
[18:15:19] <andrewsh> сделайте меня развидеть это
[18:19:51] <jekhor> andrewsh, ?
[18:20:04] <jekhor> нарисовано "от руки" в жосме? :)
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[18:20:32] <Wild> хм, а у нас как-то участки с реверсивным движением обозначаются? (напр. как на Шереметьевской ул. в москве)?
[18:22:26] <Zverik> andrewsh: ыхыхы
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[18:24:12] <Zverik> Wild: никак, в принятый пропозал по полосам они не прошли
[18:26:22] <Wild> ы. :)
[18:26:24] <andrewsh> jekhor: ДА
[18:26:26] <andrewsh> ой
[18:26:49] <andrewsh> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/40.02295/32.92697
[18:27:26] <Zverik> там ещё и заборчики, обратите внимание :)
[18:28:00] <andrewsh> ага
[18:28:39] <andrewsh> кстати, ещё вопрос могут ли треки быть именованными
[18:28:53] <andrewsh> тогда это вполне может быть уже unclassified какой
[18:28:59] <andrewsh> с плохим покрытием
[18:29:50] <andrewsh> на гуманитарном стиле детишки прыгают с крыши панелака
[18:35:34] <andrewsh> Zverik:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48215239
[18:36:20] <Zverik> andrewsh: что не так? ну, кроме некоторых смешных тегов
[18:36:33] <Zverik> abutters=residential, бгг
[18:36:36] <andrewsh> 120% complete
[18:36:53] <andrewsh> в комментах в листе советуют добавить bridge=no
[18:36:55] <andrewsh> для полноты
[18:37:33] <andrewsh> commit message смешной тоже
[18:37:36] <andrewsh> «My favorite pub.»
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