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[12:29:24] <Mezonin> ленте.ру выносят уже предупреждения. Похоже, такая же участь как и у "дождя" ожидается.
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[12:34:27] <old_Bibigon> Mezonin, 'Жириновский призвал убрать из алфавита букву "ы" ' меня это больше прикалывает, весна...
[12:34:57] <old_Bibigon> а дождю что-нибудь вынесли? вроде покричали, они извинились
[12:35:21] <Mezonin> их все кабельные операторы отключили
[12:35:30] <Mezonin> пишут, что ему жить осталось месяц
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[13:21:55] <Jim[work]> всем привет, может кто-то ткнёт носом в свежий мануал по мопнику? всё что нахожу - старьё
[13:22:34] <Jim[work]> а у них в вики достаточно раскидано всё. в целом пока проблема одна осталась - не могу понять как генерить тайлы и затем отдавать их нормально клиенту
[13:23:11] <Jim[work]> точнее как правильно это сделать. mod_tile всё же ставить, либо можно обойтись скриптом на питонии?
[13:23:46] <Jim[work]> ну и актуально ли использование mapnik-stylesheets
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[14:01:41] <oleg> привет всем
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[14:14:31] <muromets> здравствуйте. не поделитесь ссылкой на страницу с "быстрым стартом" для api с примерами? если таковая имеется, конечно
[14:18:45] <muromets> можно на английском
[14:31:50] <putnik> muromets, для какого именно API?
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[14:34:43] <muromets> версия 0.6 получается. может я не туда смотрю. мне нужно создать карту сети и привязать к географической
[14:35:32] <jekhor> проще карту сделать отдельно и наложить на отрендеренный осм
[14:35:50] <jekhor> если не нужна привязка к объектам в явном виде.
[14:37:02] <muromets> нужна актуальная привязка к базам данных. в планах хотя бы раз в день генерировать карту
[14:39:45] <andrewsh> ммм
[14:39:54] <andrewsh> привязка к чему конкретно нужна?
[14:40:03] <jekhor> вот-вот, и я не пойму
[14:41:36] <jekhor> если нужно генерировать карту сети из БД — ради бога, хоть оверлеем, хоть тайлами. Хранить в PostGIS, рендерить любым рендером. Под низ подкладывать тайлы осма или рендерить прямо осм из той же базы мапником (а базу сети хранить отдельным слоем-таблицей).
[14:41:44] <jekhor> к API это всё отношения не имеет.
[14:44:28] <muromets> понял, дальше покопаюсь
[14:46:33] <muromets> с яндекс.картами просто сперва пробовал. там то, что мне нужно можно через апи, но нельзя избавиться от визуального "мусора" из народной карты
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[14:48:15] <jekhor> короче, с задачей определись :)
[14:51:49] <oleg> destination_sign как обозначать объясните.
[14:52:38] <muromets> jekhor: банальная задача. есть оборудование, адреса домов, где оно установлено и есть данные как оно между собой слинковано. надо это визуализировать привязав к географической карте города
[14:53:48] <jekhor> ну. Визуализировать можно средствами любой JS-библиотеки картографической, типа Leaflet, или же введя в бой тяжёлую артиллерию в виде рендереров в тайлы. Это два разных подхода.
[14:54:22] <jekhor> первый проще, но подложку надо брать готовую. Второй сложнее, но гибче.
[14:56:02] <andrewsh> muromets: просто суть том, что теримн API в осм используется для способа доступа к картоданным
[14:56:22] <andrewsh> это не то же самое, что «API яндекскарт»
[14:56:41] <andrewsh> отрендеренные осмовские карты можно юзать любой библиотекой
[14:57:31] <andrewsh> muromets: смотри вот
http://leafletjs.com/examples/quick-start.html например
[14:57:49] <andrewsh> ну или если нужно мощную навороченную библиотеку вдруг, есть OpenLayers
[14:58:03] <andrewsh> но лифлет для простых задач вроде проще
[14:58:43] <muromets> andrewsh: понял. спасибо
[14:58:58] <andrewsh> хотя в OpenLayers 3 обещают много вкусностей
[15:00:50] <andrewsh> jekhor:
http://ol3js.org/en/master/doc/tutorials/concepts.html
[15:00:54] <andrewsh> о как нынче!
[15:01:50] <jekhor> :)
[15:02:28] <jekhor> вот когда научатся SLD стили поддерживать — будет интересно (лифлет точно не умеет, насчёт OL не помню)
[15:02:56] <andrewsh> что есть SLD?
[15:03:04] <andrewsh> о,
http://ol3js.org/en/master/examples/modify-features.html
[15:03:13] <jekhor> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styled_Layer_Descriptor
[15:04:22] <jekhor> andrewsh, прикольно, хоть и глючновато
[15:04:25] <andrewsh> http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/sld.html
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[15:15:27] <oleg> destination_sign привязываю указатель нужно ли ставить отношение ?
[15:16:01] <Zverik> oleg: какой ещё указатель?
[15:16:12] <Zverik> Там всего три объекта — линия откуда, перекрёсток, линия куда
[15:17:07] <Zverik> oleg: вот пример:
http://youtu.be/jfKfjxK7dYk?t=1m47s
[15:17:39] <oleg> щас посмотрю
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[15:38:33] <oleg> почему меня дисканектит ? клиент textual
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[15:57:06] <oleg> это ваше видео тогда понятно/
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[16:14:21] <oleg> что за программа
http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/1003/de/374fe341a3b6.jpg
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[16:54:28] <Zverik> ох, настал день, когда я забыл её название
[16:54:31] <Zverik> это ТопПлан
[16:54:39] <Zverik> http://www.topplan.ru/
[16:55:09] <Zverik> когда-то монополист среди офлайн-карт Петербурга, сейчас — говно мамонта
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[17:23:31] <oleg> сколько знаков удивительно overpass-turbo мало находит
[17:23:33] <andrewsh> 20 лет — гарантия вашего успеха
[17:23:35] <andrewsh> :)
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[17:36:28] <oleg> Время в пути, согласно указателю (не обязательно. Указывается ориентировочное время следования
[17:36:28] <oleg> до указанного пункта).
[17:36:40] <oleg> это при каких условиях
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[18:22:39] <Zverik> oleg: вопрос намекает, что ты хочешь добавить в базу данные, которым не соответствуют объекты или надписи в реальности. Не делай так
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[18:29:02] <oleg> наоборот хочется разобраться как правильно помечать.
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[19:15:49] <Mezonin> таки Лента.ру имерла
[19:16:02] <Mezonin> были позывы утром и теперь один подтвердились.
[19:16:21] <Mezonin> умерла*
[19:17:24] <muromets> Mezonin:
http://lenta.ru/info/posts/statement/
[19:17:57] <muromets> пока не удалили :)
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[19:21:49] <Mezonin> "Ведущие журналисты уже отказались работать с новым главредом"
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[19:28:00] <Mezonin> https://www.facebook.com/iazar/posts/10153950168390424
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