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[01:43:04] <shurik> сотммм
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[08:15:35] <Zverik_h> ох. осмий
http://store.otaku.ru/catalog/search.html?q=%D0%9E%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B9
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[09:17:53] <andrewsh> Zverik: :D
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[11:51:23] <Scondo> Так, граждане-товарищи, кто ОКТМО пользует, все о доп 3х знаках в курсе?
[11:52:28] <freeExec> не пользуюсь, не вкурсе, но хотел бы просвятиться
[11:53:57] <andrewsh> просветиться, а не просвятиться
[11:54:15] <andrewsh> от слова свет, а не свят
[12:00:48] <freeExec> ок
[12:02:29] <Jim_[work]> Scondo > рассказывай
[12:02:38] Jim_[work] is now known as Jim[work]
[12:03:45] <Scondo> Jim_[work]: О принятии, введении в действие с 1 января 2014 года и внедрении в статистическую практику новой версии Общероссийского классификатора территорий муниципальных образований (ОКТМО) ОК 033-2013
[12:04:03] <Scondo> Jim_[work]: здесь
http://www.gks.ru/metod/classifiers.html
[12:04:56] <Scondo> Jim_[work]: Целью создания новой версии ОКТМО являлось отражение в его классификационной структуре населенных пунктов, входящих в состав муниципальных образований. ...
[12:04:56] <Scondo> Идентификация населенных пунктов была произведена 11-значными кодами ОКТМО путем их привязки к кодам муниципальных образований с сохранением классификационной схемы построения группировок муниципальных образований, которая была принята в действую
[12:06:50] <freeExec> т.е. пилка валидатора пойдёт веселей ?
[12:08:03] <bim2010> Таблица соответствия кодов ОКАТО кодам ОКТМО муниципальных образований и входящий в их состав населенных пунктов и межселенных территорий.
[12:08:04] <bim2010> http://www.minfin.ru/ru/ismf/eiasmfrf/
[12:10:45] <bim2010> Лучше не стало
[12:11:19] <Scondo> freeExec: Фиг знает. Потенциально я так понял они хотят прибить ОКАТО и заменить его ОКТМО.
[12:11:33] <Scondo> На практике в той же ФИАС пока не отработано - там только 8-значные.
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[12:13:27] <bim2010> В новом ОКТМО нет признака МО, только название. Хотя есть таблица соответствия кодам ОКАТО, но как я понимаю это разовая акция для перехода. Да, ОКАТО прикрывают.
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[12:14:47] <bim2010> И в КЛАДР и ФИАС нет кода ОКТМО. Т.е. теперь сопоставить будет еще сложнее.
[12:15:40] <andrewsh> ФИАС Ко
[12:15:44] <bim2010> Сопоставить ФИАС И ОКТМО
[12:17:50] <bim2010> А вы заметили резкие колебания базы ФИАС в 2012 году.
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[12:36:12] <Scondo> bim2010: В ФИАС есть.
[12:39:09] <Scondo> bim2010: В 2014 может? 400м дифф вижу, у меня на работе инет медленный, вечером буду смотреть...
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[12:44:12] <bim2010> В ФИАС есть ОКТМО 8 знаков и там нет полного соответствия. Сделал uniq по коду OKTMO по своему региону. Получилось из базы в 160000 адресов по области 242 уникальных кодов ОКТМО
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[12:44:50] <bim2010> это вранье
[12:46:07] <bim2010> т.к. МО в регионе около 330, а НП около 4800
[12:46:07] <bim2010> что тогда передает ОКТМО в ФИАС? Там нет информации в этом поле.
[12:46:43] <old_Bibigon> bim2010, там улицам и меньшим приписан октмо вышестоящей
[12:46:57] <old_Bibigon> * был по-крайней мере, с год в них не смотрел
[12:49:18] <bim2010> Выше стоящий для улиц это НП.
[12:49:25] <old_Bibigon> ну и 242 vs 330 получается, +/- кто-то где-то поразному разбил
[12:50:02] <old_Bibigon> октмо и на нп не распостраняется, насколько помню, но оно вроде тоже у них указывается
[12:51:18] <bim2010> Код ОКТМО состоит из 11 знаков, последние 3 из которых идентифицируют населенные пункты, входящие в состав муниципальных образований на территории соответствующего субъекта Российской Федерации.
[12:53:25] <old_Bibigon> это с 1 января ж, сего года, до этого их 8 было
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[12:58:15] <bim2010> 11 знаков с августа уже
http://gis-lab.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3841&start=30#p95893
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[13:00:06] <Scondo> Ну вот я и говорю не отработали... возможно это в 400М диффе, но на сайте проверял по Лобне - пока старье.
[13:01:10] <Scondo> bim2010: ОК 033-2013 принята приказом Росстандарта от 14.06.2013 № 159-ст с датой введения в действие с 1 января 2014 года.
[13:01:45] <bim2010> ГНИВЦ тоже не обновили
http://www.gnivc.ru/software/commercial_software/ps_mo/sprav/
[13:01:53] <old_Bibigon> bim2010, налоговая же, куда им торопиться, да и реально использоваться ему с 1 января положено
[13:02:20] <old_Bibigon> bim2010, 2й рабочий день идёт, как не из рашки ты :)
[13:07:17] <bim2010> Здесь тоже короткий ОКТМО
http://fias.nalog.ru/Public/SearchPage.aspx?SearchState=2
[13:10:47] <freeExec> Ну потрольте налоговую :)
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[23:08:15] <assargadon> CutterRus, привет, ну как пережил праздники? :)
[23:08:38] <CutterRus> assargadon: привет. нормально) а ты?
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[23:09:03] <assargadon> CutterRus, я слишком долго бездельничал, теперь мучает совесть...и заказчики.
[23:12:02] <assargadon> CutterRus, я вот думаю, кому бы написать какие официальные письма, чтоб выдали какую-нибудь информацию, годную для переноса на карту. Ну там, написать в банк, типа, дайте координаты своих банкоматов или не знаю даже. Почему-то вертится.
[23:13:19] <CutterRus> assargadon: мне о таком думать некогда)
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[23:13:35] <assargadon> CutterRus, а что там у тебя творится?
[23:14:24] <CutterRus> assargadon: диплом делаю, без работы сижу)
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[23:15:34] <assargadon> CutterRus, диплом - это хорошо. Без работы - это плохо, но конфликтует с "некогда". Какая тема диплома, любопытно?
[23:16:03] <CutterRus> assargadon: тема хреноватая, но для обучения норм. приложение под андроид
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[23:16:46] <assargadon> CutterRus, какое именно приложение? И это диплом по какой специальности и в каком ВУЗе?
[23:18:05] <CutterRus> специальность it-менеджемент
[23:18:22] <assargadon> Тогда ты должен не сам писать, а других заставлять писать :)
[23:18:36] <CutterRus> assargadon: но надо самому)
[23:18:57] <assargadon> CutterRus, нелогично! )
[23:31:49] <iav_work> ЕВПОЧЯ!
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[23:39:56] <andrewsh> бНОПНЯ ВХРЮК?
[23:55:56] <iav_work> http://lurkmore.to/%D0%95%D0%92%D0%9F%D0%9E%D0%A7%D0%AF
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