#osm-ru | Logs for 2013-12-17

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[00:01:14] <trolleway> кстати на диванной пати можно маппить Киев. Он плох.
[00:02:15] <Hind> лучше Житомир
[00:02:17] <Hind> он еще хуже
[00:02:27] <Hind> и бинг есть
[00:02:54] <Hind> и меньше
[00:04:04] <trolleway> может лучше Ровно?
[00:05:05] <Hind> там тоже относительно хорошо
[00:05:16] <Hind> даже номера домов есть
[00:05:17] <andrewsh> а помапьте-ка Ковно
[00:05:25] <andrewsh> Коўна
[00:09:33] <Hind> Вот уже 9 дней в штосме нет новостей
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[00:39:42] <Zverik_home> да, штосм что-то опустел
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[02:24:00] <Runge_home> AMDmi3: стрелочки от опор ЛЭП готовы ))
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[04:01:11] <andrewsh> Zverik, Komzzpa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSBGL137l5g
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[12:13:27] <assargadon> Доброе утро. Посоветуйте, пожалуйста. Вот эта вот огороженная забором (кое-где прерывающимся стенами зданий) территория http://openstreetmap.ru/#layer=M&zoom=19&lat=47.251838&lon=39.647452 называется "База 'Мегашина'". Как это обозначить? В смысле, ограничивающий многоу
[12:13:27] <assargadon> гольник состоит из линий, входящих в здания, и как обозначить территорию?
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[12:17:35] <freeExec> ну если быть совсем дотошным, то забор надо попилить и там где он идёт по контуру здания убрать тег забора и склеить обратно в мутиполигон. для задротов можно ещё здания попилить где общий контур
[12:19:56] <Zverik> andrewsh: музыка портит ролик
[12:20:09] <assargadon> freeExec, забор попилен. В смысле, там где стены зданий, тег "забор" не стоит.
[12:21:27] <assargadon> Остальное я не очень понял. В смысле, задача-то стоит такая: как внешний контур, проходящий частью по забору а частью - по стенам зданий, выделить в отдельную сущность.
[12:22:03] <freeExec> ну смотри чтобы повесить имя тебе нужен замкнутый конту из забора и стен зданий, так вот надо продублировать линии по стенам
[12:22:10] <assargadon> если я разделю линии, образующие здания, то ведь контуры зданий перестанут быть замкнутыми, или я чего-то не понимаю?
[12:22:40] <assargadon> freeExec, ага, понял. И как эти отдельные линии потом в единую линию свести? Мультиполигоном?
[12:22:44] <freeExec> если делить здания, то надо их делать мультиполигоном, быстрее продублировать
[12:22:57] <assargadon> Как выделять конкретную из двух линий, проходящих по тем же точкам?
[12:23:08] <freeExec> средней кнопкой
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[12:25:17] <andrewsh> Zverik: мопед не мой :)
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[14:21:57] <Zverik> Вчера закрыл все программистские тикеты для mapbbcode 1.2 \o/ Похоже, успею выпустить на следующей неделе — и написать статью на хабр, наконец.
[14:22:18] <freeExec> ждём поста
[14:22:39] <Runge> Zverik: +1. ты уже билеты в Дойтчланд купил? ))
[14:23:07] <Zverik> Runge: уже всё купил, и билеты, и гостиницу. Осталось машину забронировать, но этим друзья занимаются
[14:23:29] <Runge> ааа так вы из Франкфурта на машине?
[14:23:37] <Zverik> да, мы проездом в Страсбург
[14:23:45] <Runge> здорово.
[14:23:56] <Zverik> можем по пути тебя захватить :)
[14:24:00] <Zverik> (но обратно — сам)
[14:24:07] <Zverik> а, блин, нет, не можем
[14:24:16] <Zverik> нас 4 человека + ребёнок
[14:24:24] <Runge> да не проблема. тут на электричке 40 минут вроде. )
[14:24:55] <Runge> еще с начальство надо поговорить. пусть еще и дорогу оплатят мне )))))
[14:25:00] <Zverik> :))
[14:31:01] <andrewsh> Zverik: а в Брюссель вы не?
[14:31:07] <andrewsh> а то там FOSDEM
[14:31:10] <Zverik> andrewsh: не, далеко
[14:31:34] <andrewsh> зря :þ
[14:31:44] <Zverik> к тому же это 1-2 февраля, у нас оммм в это время
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[15:49:14] <Jim_[work]> всем привет osrm.at/5Su но в http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1143772524 есть no_left_turn, подскажите верно ли запрет поворота указан?
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[15:51:29] <freeExec> там же отношения нет :)
[15:52:44] <Jim_[work]> о блин, понаправят
[15:52:58] <Jim_[work]> thx
[15:54:10] <freeExec> ну блин хотел залить, и ты сфетофор снёс, или не ты
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[17:46:38] <assargadon> Водонасосная станция, которая станция подкачки - это man_made=water_works?
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[19:54:32] <Hind> :3
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[22:35:40] <Zverik_home> впервые сделал git push origin master --force
[22:36:14] <Zverik_home> 23 коммита назад случайно залил пароль для transifex
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[22:40:23] <Runge_home> AMDmi3: новое отображение ЛЭП устраивает??? )))
[22:50:11] <AMDmi3> хм, а напомни как тайлы обновлять?
[22:51:55] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: коментарий коммита https://github.com/ErshKUS/OpenStreetMap.ru/commit/b1fbd656ebd0220cf194cd3b42aef6b639d0cb80
[22:52:05] <Runge_home> &tile=getupdated
[22:52:13] <ErshKUS> :)
[22:52:48] <Runge_home> http://openstreetmap.ru/#layer=S&zoom=19&lat=56.42197&lon=38.466405
[22:53:21] <andrewsh> Runge_home: сделай /dirty :)
[22:53:30] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: вооо, да! то что надо, спасибо
[22:54:47] <AMDmi3> да, вот это выглядит реально круто
[22:55:30] <Runge_home> пожалуйста )
[22:55:34] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: http://openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/tiles/roads/x=39775&y=20281&z=16 но это мелочь на самом деле
[22:56:11] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: не понял насчёт комментария коммита
[22:57:25] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: http://beta.openstreetmap.ru/#layer=S&map=19/56.42197/38.466405
[22:57:26] <andrewsh> ErshKUS: эээ, а поддержку старого урла?
[22:57:38] <andrewsh> ты ж сделай обратную совместимость
[22:57:46] <andrewsh> а то все линки побьются
[22:57:56] <ErshKUS> http://beta.openstreetmap.ru/#layer=S&zoom=19&lat=56.42197&lon=38.466405
[22:58:24] <ErshKUS> так просто удобнее юзать, для дальнейшего
[22:58:40] <andrewsh> ну это да, но я не понял, парсится ли старый вариант
[22:58:47] <andrewsh> выглядит, как если бы нет
[22:58:54] <AMDmi3> новый формат урла всмысле? ну норм, на самом деле большой разницы нет
[22:59:04] <andrewsh> или парсится?
[22:59:08] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: кстати, почему URL обновляется с задержкой
[22:59:29] <andrewsh> а, вроде парсится
[22:59:32] <ErshKUS> даже такой http://openstreetmap.ru/?layer=S&zoom=19&lat=56.42197&lon=38.466405 (как get параметр, это самый первый вариант пермалинка)
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[22:59:53] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: для хрома
[23:00:01] <AMDmi3> а что хром?
[23:00:12] <ErshKUS> иначе может начатся "пляски"
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[23:00:34] <AMDmi3> тогда делай это только для хрома что-ли
[23:02:20] <AMDmi3> osm.org тоже так делает? по крайней мере в ff у меня на нём задержек нет
[23:02:24] <ErshKUS> хотя есть непроверенная инфа, что баг уже пофиксился без задержки
[23:03:13] <ErshKUS> в общем уберу пока совсем, а если будут жалобы - воткну
[23:03:20] <AMDmi3> угу
[23:04:13] <AMDmi3> ништяково становится под праздники
[23:04:30] <AMDmi3> интересно, fserges роутинг таки забросил или ещё нет
[23:05:32] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: у кнопок линейки/josm и зума/слоёв кажется разная прозрачность
[23:06:22] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: у тебя показываются highway=stop_position?
[23:06:27] <ErshKUS> я кстати думал на сколько реально нужен роутинг на осмру, чтоб прикрутить нужно изрядно потратить ремени
[23:06:39] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: тьфу, public_transport=stop_position
[23:07:24] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: а могут быть два мнения? и в чём сложность?
[23:08:00] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: а то http://beta.openstreetmap.ru/#layer=S&map=16/56.3787/38.589
[23:08:03] <ErshKUS> т.е. нужен без вопросов?
[23:08:28] <AMDmi3> ну я за всех говорить не могу, но имхо конечно. какие вебкарты без роутинга?
[23:08:56] <andrewsh> ErshKUS: а что за иконка у edit in josm
[23:09:01] <andrewsh> я думал, это зум какой
[23:09:28] <andrewsh> сшенно непонятно, что делает кнопка
[23:09:33] <andrewsh> даже когда нажмёшь :)
[23:09:50] <andrewsh> я раз 10 кликнул, прежде чем догадался прочитать тултип
[23:10:16] <AMDmi3> ходят слухи что кто-то как-то про эту кнопку поумал "поиск кафе"
[23:10:39] <andrewsh> :)
[23:10:47] <andrewsh> ErshKUS: отдельное спасибо от меня за «трэба»
[23:10:51] <ErshKUS> есть варианты иконки josm?
[23:11:06] <andrewsh> не надо жосм
[23:11:12] <andrewsh> надо иконку «редактировать»
[23:11:18] <ErshKUS> andrewsh: за что?
[23:11:19] <AMDmi3> угу
[23:11:27] <ErshKUS> ну да
[23:11:27] <AMDmi3> карандаш толстый
[23:11:30] <andrewsh> за правильное слово в правильном месте
[23:11:41] <AMDmi3> типа http://s1.iconbird.com/ico/2013/10/464/w512h5121380984696edit.png
[23:12:32] <AMDmi3> слушайте, а нигде нет обзорного слоя?
[23:13:20] <AMDmi3> я тут в калмыкии порисовал, там куча дорог не вышу unclassified которые хочется посмотреть как минимум зума на 3 выше чем они показываются на мапнике
[23:13:34] <AMDmi3> * не выше
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[23:16:31] <Runge_home> AMDmi3: public_transport=stop_position вроде поддерживается. а ссылку на конкретный объект можно?
[23:17:47] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: да поддерживается, но получается что по крайней мере на ЖД станциях они дублируют сами станции и друг друга
[23:18:17] <Runge_home> аа вот про что речь. это легко убрать.
[23:18:26] <AMDmi3> Runge_home: http://beta.openstreetmap.ru/#layer=S&map=16/56.3787/38.589 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/321975372 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1995024524
[23:18:46] <Runge_home> спасибо. исправлю
[23:19:00] <AMDmi3> к чему бы ещё придраться... :)
[23:19:17] <Runge_home> хе хе
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[23:20:51] <AMDmi3> с входами в метро, кстати, так и не решили?
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[23:21:31] <Runge_home> в смысле новую схему тегирования или отображения?
[23:22:51] <AMDmi3> а, не, погоди. иконки ко входам по operator/network выбираются?
[23:24:35] <Runge_home> да
[23:24:56] <Runge_home> входы в метро тоже
[23:25:07] <AMDmi3> по network?
[23:25:18] <Runge_home> не помню. сейчас гляну
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[23:26:18] <Runge_home> по network
[23:26:50] <AMDmi3> тогда надо расставить их
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[23:29:13] <Runge_home> оказывается ж.д. станции уже давно в стилях исправлены. просто тайлик старый был
[23:29:36] <AMDmi3> а-а. а тайлы протухают сами по себе?
[23:29:59] <AMDmi3> т.е. если не было редактирования и getupdated
[23:30:18] <Runge_home> нет в кэше сидят
[23:30:39] <Runge_home> время от времени зумы 17-19 удаляю просто
[23:31:44] <AMDmi3> а сколько у вас кэш?
[23:33:04] <Runge_home> объем на двух дисках 5 ТБ. тот что на 2ТБ используется всеми слоями кроме рельефа.
[23:33:04] <AMDmi3> мне просто казалось он должен довольно быстро заполниться
[23:33:26] <Runge_home> в смысле заполниться?
[23:33:57] <AMDmi3> в смысле выжрать сколько-там-есть диска и начать протухать автоматически
[23:34:25] <Runge_home> такого нет у нас
[23:53:35] <ErshKUS> http://bash.im/quote/425913 :)
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