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[00:14:20] <AMDmi3> Zverik_h: по-моему, в rel toolbox роли в type=boundary не проставляются если boundary != administrative
[00:15:29] <Zverik_h> AMDmi3: есть такая вероятность
[00:15:41] <Zverik_h> а какие ещё boundary бывают?
[00:15:59] <AMDmi3> Zverik_h: разные (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:boundary), потенциально любые
[00:16:58] <Zverik_h> AMDmi3: но для других типов и роли потенциально другие
[00:17:09] <Zverik_h> у меня там далеко не все типы отношений покрыты, а только самые частые
[00:17:55] <AMDmi3> роли же определяются типом отношения
[00:18:06] <AMDmi3> для каких границ будут другие роли?
[00:21:05] <AMDmi3> не, ты не прав. boundary аналог мультиполигона, inner/outer там всегда есть
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[00:35:23] <Zverik_h> Ну, inner/outer у меня вообще не понятно для чего расставляются, я не следил. Теоретически там Larry0ua сделал, чтобы можно было дописывать авторасстановщики ролей
[00:35:37] <Zverik_h> у меня, увы, из-за mapbbcode времени на починку в ближайшие месяцы нет
[00:36:04] <AMDmi3> ok, значит самому лезть
[00:36:47] <AMDmi3> где его исходники?
[00:43:37] <AMDmi3> Zverik_h: по-моему, всего навсего
http://pastebin.com/HG0eczL6
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[01:30:46] <CGI282> Привет
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[01:33:50] <Sooty> Подскажите плиз, почему здания в ситигид все одинаковые. Ставил этажность и т.п.
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[12:23:43] <Zverik> AMDmi3: твой фикс неправилен, потому что, например, роль admin_centre непригодна для boundary=natural_reserve
[12:24:05] <Zverik> (наверное, я не знаю, что в этом фиксере творится, но очень странно, что проверяется только boundary)
[12:29:10] <Zverik> andrewsh: трейлер рождественской серии какой-то невнятный:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWwYLlcPekA (и хорошо)
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[15:00:37] <AMDmi3> Zverik: ещё раз, все роли относятся только к relation type=boundary
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[15:02:20] <AMDmi3> хотя это наводит на мысль стоит ли natural_reserve вообще быть type=boundary а не мультиполигоном
[15:03:42] <Zverik> по-моему, boundary и multipolygon — одно и то же
[15:04:07] <AMDmi3> семантика разная, но вроде только для administrative
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[15:05:32] <AMDmi3> Zverik: заодно скажи, example.html из MapBBCode Loader должен же сразу показывать какие-нибудь карты?
[15:05:47] <Zverik> AMDmi3: да, целую кучу
[15:05:55] <Zverik> если не показывает, смотри консоль
[15:06:10] <Zverik> (он требует MapBBCodeLoader.js в каталоге с html)
[15:08:26] <putnik> AMDmi3, ты не против, если я кину pull request для opening_hours.js, чтобы он на github pages был доступен?
[15:08:55] <AMDmi3> Zverik: я из репы запускал, оно там есть
[15:09:05] <AMDmi3> Zverik: ReferenceError: updateMapBBCode is not defined
[15:09:26] <Zverik> AMDmi3: пишет, откуда кинулась ошибка?
[15:09:29] <AMDmi3> Zverik: у меня правда тут старый FF, но дома на новом изкоробки тоже не работало
[15:10:05] <AMDmi3> Zverik: onclick, line 4
[15:10:22] <AMDmi3> это тольео есои на update нажать, иначе вообще ничего не пишет
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[15:10:34] <AMDmi3> putnik: что за github pages?
[15:10:46] <Zverik> ой, он там требует каталога mapbbcode (из
http://mapbbcode.org/dist/mapbbcode-latest.zip )
[15:11:22] <Zverik> что-то я забыл про это
[15:11:57] <AMDmi3> Zverik: о, так работает. git help submodule?
[15:12:17] <Zverik> нет, в зипе структура файлов иная, нежели в его репе
[15:12:36] <Zverik> у меня во всех сборочницам плагинов для форумов стоит wget с тем адресом
[15:13:03] <Zverik> AMDmi3: а, нашёл: надо было make download :)
[15:13:13] <AMDmi3> да, я так и сделал
[15:14:22] <Zverik> (дописал это в readme)
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[15:31:21] <putnik> AMDmi3, хостинг статики на github.io. Чтобы можно было демку посмотреть, не скачивая.
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[15:56:10] <AMDmi3> а что для этого изменить надо?
[16:01:29] <putnik> AMDmi3, надо манифест добавить.
[16:03:31] <putnik> Э, или нет. Туплю.
[16:06:51] <putnik> Поразбираюсь вечером.
[16:09:11] <andygol> http://pages.github.com/ - тут должно быть описание
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[16:14:22] <putnik> Там, похоже, либо отдельный репозиторий, либо ветку надо делать.
[16:15:09] <andygol> ветка gh-pages + файл CNAME
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[16:15:49] <andygol> https://help.github.com/articles/setting-up-a-custom-domain-with-pages
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[16:39:38] <Zverik> что-то вы всё усложняете. Достаточно бранча gh-pahes
[16:40:03] <Zverik> cname только если свой домен (как на mapbbcode.org сделано)
[16:40:44] <Zverik> и пул-реквестом, вроде, бранч не сделать
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[17:18:43] <AMDmi3> по-моему это плохая идея - с каждым коммитом нужно будет двигать вторую ветку, index.html тоже нет
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[17:19:07] <AMDmi3> кому надо откроет чекаут в браузере
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[20:52:39] <Mezonin_> Alex вот так завуалированно пиарит MWM :D
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[21:26:55] <Maks|mapnik> old_Bibigon: гугл выкатил карту Чепецка
[21:27:13] <Maks|mapnik> правда какую то кривую и с неправильными названиями улиц
[21:27:54] <Maks|mapnik> как будто пользователи няка её рисовали
[21:29:00] <Maks|mapnik> ногами, на нокиа 3310
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[21:35:42] <Maks|mapnik> э..
[21:35:52] <Maks|mapnik> ул. автодорога Вятка
[21:37:06] <old_Bibigon> интеграция или как там её поди выкатила
[21:37:53] <Maks|mapnik> «Вятка на Йошкар-Олу»
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[21:38:08] <old_Bibigon> * Опу
[21:38:13] <Maks|mapnik> ул. на Рябово
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[21:38:57] <Maks|mapnik> какая интеграция? у кого-то в гугле массовая передозировка
[21:40:56] <Maks|mapnik> и в кирове большинству домиков поплохело
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[21:42:46] <Maks|mapnik> два соседних дома: 1к1 и 1/2
[21:43:22] <Maks|mapnik> 7к1 и 7/2, 9к1 и 9/2
[21:44:16] <AMDmi3> карты гугл. демонстрировали что с OSM они даже близко не стояли когда это ещё не было майнстримом
[21:45:12] <old_Bibigon> Maks|mapnik, хочешь сказать что по кирову они ещё хуже стали?
[21:45:26] <Maks|mapnik> old_Bibigon: какие то кривые местами
[21:46:29] <Maks|mapnik> по Чепецку вижу несколько ошибок, которые я вносил сам в названиях и номерах домов в ОСМ
[21:46:33] <Maks|mapnik> но потом исправлял
[21:49:38] <Maks|mapnik> как там гугловский няк называется? судя по кривизне, ошибкам и тотальному бардаку, гугл удалил все прежние картографические данные и оставил свой няк единственным слоем
[21:49:50] <Maks|mapnik> иначе этот кошмар просто не объяснить
[21:50:42] <Mixaill> Maks|mapnik: гуглоняк же не запущен в РФ
[21:51:02] <old_Bibigon> MapMaker вроде
[21:52:16] <old_Bibigon> это... с СТП населённые пункты можно скалывать (названия + место по спутнику)?
[21:52:18] <Maks|mapnik> Mixaill: _это_ не могли делать вменяемые пользователи, значит запущен
[21:52:47] <Maks|mapnik> даже федеральная трасса на границе с Коми перестаёт быть федеральной внезапно
[21:53:30] <AMDmi3> MapMaker'а же нет в России
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[21:54:31] <Mixaill> Maks|mapnik: в Беларуси МапМейкер довольно вменяемый
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[21:59:34] <Maks|mapnik> мне тут пишут, что мапмейкер официально в россии есть и живее всех живых
[22:00:23] <AMDmi3> да ну
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=57.045546,38.17843&spn=12.94582,36.430664&z=5&lyt=large_map_v3
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[22:02:29] <Maks|mapnik> мне тут представитель гугла пишет, что давно уже есть и частности "по крайней мере сегодня до обеда уже точно был"
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[22:04:19] <AMDmi3> ну-ну
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[22:04:49] <AMDmi3> но в принципе, в том что я вижу на мапмейкере ошибок меньше чем на их обычных картах, так что молодцы
[22:06:13] <Maks|mapnik> ну нужно время, но то что я вижу сейчас в "картах гугла" в Чепецке — это вообще ужас, даже в няк так плохо не было
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[22:08:11] <Maks|mapnik> но с другой стороны, до этого дня в этом месте на карте вообще ничего не было
[22:10:14] <Maks|mapnik> смущает правда, что я вижу на сайте strava карту Чепецка в расцветке традиционных карт гугла я вырвиглазными ядовито-жёлтыми дорогами
[22:10:37] <Maks|mapnik> щёлкаю по ней и открывается карат гугла со всеми белыми дорогами одного статуса
[22:12:09] <Maks|mapnik> зато заметил что появился сервис "мои карты", теперь рисовать линии и ставить маркеры можно прямо в гугле, с возможностью сохранения всего результата у себя в аккаунте
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[22:12:55] <AMDmi3> пишут что они отсасывают
[22:12:57] <AMDmi3> http://mapicons.nicolasmollet.com/news/new-google-maps-doesnt-have-the-my-maps-feature/
[22:12:59] <Maks|mapnik> на osm.ru оно конечно хорошо, но раз 5 создавал карты, а как их теперь найти не знаю
[22:13:19] <AMDmi3> зато регистрироваться не надо
[22:13:50] <Maks|mapnik> ну да, только каждый раз карту перерисовывать
[22:14:25] <AMDmi3> ты же не в вакуум её рисуешь. если кому-то отправил то всегда в хистори можно найти
[22:14:36] <Maks|mapnik> как это doesn’t have the “My Maps”? я только что нарисовал какую то херню и сохранил
[22:14:37] <AMDmi3> а вообще если она нужна странно её не букмаркнуть
[22:14:53] <Maks|mapnik> ну так что бы добавить что-то, надо всё с нуля перерисовать
[22:15:17] <AMDmi3> аа. ну это к нашим сайтопилителям
[22:16:12] <Maks|mapnik> потому как я мог рисовать это с другого компьютера, с другого устройства и потерять ссылку, а заводить отдельный бумажник в интернете, что юы хранить где-то ссылки - тоже не вариант
[22:16:47] <AMDmi3> ну зарегавшись в гугле ты же это и сделал. продав душу заодно :)
[22:17:13] <Maks|mapnik> у меня и в микрософте есть аккаунт и что?
[22:17:35] <AMDmi3> при чём тут он?
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[22:17:54] <Maks|mapnik> а какая разница
[22:19:31] <Maks|mapnik> полное досье на меня есть в военном ведомстве США, потому что я работал с IBM по вопросам майнфреймов
[22:20:39] <AMDmi3> ну мне банально лень во всяком говне регистрироваться ради одноразовой неконфиденциальной хрени
[22:20:53] <AMDmi3> есть там досье или нет
[22:21:10] <AMDmi3> так что минус osmru тут только в невозможности редактирования
[22:21:38] <Maks|mapnik> ну это плюс, да, я не говорил что всё совсем плохо, правда есть неудобства с сохранением и последующим редактированием
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[22:29:04] <Maks|mapnik> вообщем пускай будет, хуже от этого никому не станет
[22:30:09] <Maks|mapnik> осм тоже не подарок, со вчерашнего дня половина адресов перестала искаться по sql, чую кто-то что-то в очередной раз "нормализовал"
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[22:37:33] <Maks|mapnik> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1693991/history#map=15/57.0066/48.7254
[22:39:23] <Maks|mapnik> вот скажите мне, удаление тегов place и добавление в name статусной части — это адекватное редактирование?
[22:40:06] <Maks|mapnik> судя по стремительно худеющему индексу адресов, скоро тегов place не останется в ОСМ вообще
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[23:05:49] <Zverik_h> Maks: так на mapbbcode share тот же принцип, что на osm.ru, но можно залогиниться, и все нарисованные карты будут падать в твою библиотеку
[23:06:11] <Zverik_h> (у меня уже около 60 карт в библиотеке :)
[23:06:41] <Zverik_h> логин через любой oauth, регистрации нет
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[23:19:24] <AMDmi3> был бы гитхаб
[23:20:30] <Mixaill> гитхаб же вроде oauth предоставляет
[23:20:48] <AMDmi3> что-то предоставляет, но на share.mapbbcode его нет
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[23:24:03] <Zverik_h> я ошибся, логин только через openid. У гитхаба его, к сожалению, нет
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[23:46:13] <andrewsh> http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3793/9701202026_f445e38c5e_z.jpg :D
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