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[08:16:29] <Jim_[work]> кто-нибудь может объяснить почему после применения диффа размер local.osm.pbf достаточно сильно отличается? на гислабе он совсем другого размера
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[11:15:15] <Maks|mapnik> Jim[work]: а ты дифф на local.osm.pbf какой применяешь, планетный? Если да, то дифф добавляет все объекты планеты, которые были изменены, надо после применения дифа снова обрезать
[11:16:31] <Jim[work]> Maks|mapnik, нет, пробовал дифф применить с гис лаба
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[11:17:31] <freeExec> osmupdate вроде сразу позволяет указать область обрезки
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[11:22:19] <Jim[work]> freeExec, ./osmconvert local-131209.osm.pbf local-131209-131210.osc.gz -o=local-131210.osm.pbf
[11:22:45] <Jim[work]> вот так пилю, один фиг отличается размер по сравнению с тем, что лежит на гислабе. или в таком случае всё равно надо резать?
[11:24:40] <freeExec> конечно, ведь в дифе данные не фильтрованы поэтому всё и вливается в твой дамп
[11:25:02] <Jim[work]> хм, думал, что в гислабовских диффах уже ок всё
[11:25:45] <freeExec> а зачем дифы с гислаба качать ?
[11:29:38] <Jim[work]> я подумал, что вполне логично было бы использовать локальное покрытие с гис лаба вмесет с их же диффами
[11:30:28] <Jim[work]> хотя уже задумался а не поднять ли сразу для планеты все примочки и не париться
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[11:31:46] <Jim[work]> freeExec, или я всё же что-то пропустил и на гислабе диффы для планеты?
[11:33:23] <freeExec> я точно не знаю, я спользую osmupdate и он качает планетные дифы, но я их обрезаю (в настройках указываю) по России
[11:33:47] <Jim[work]> ладно, спасибо. попробую так
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[11:51:26] <Maks|mapnik> нихрена себе комиссии у пайпала оказывается
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[11:59:53] <putnik> Maks|mapnik, насколько нихрена?
[12:00:54] <Maks|mapnik> 3,9% только за операцию зачисления при продажах, плюсом ещё от 3,9 за вывод переводом средств
[12:01:27] <freeExec> им тоже кушать хочется
[12:02:06] <Maks|mapnik> хотя и на каждой странице стоит "переводы внутри страны бесплатно в пределах остатка на счёте", переходишь на страницу перевода, от 3,9 из Россия в Россия
[12:02:47] <Maks|mapnik> даже сбербанк, самый дорогой продавец переводов, всего 3% хочет
[12:04:10] <Maks|mapnik> про свой банк, где перевод стоит 20 рублей за платёжное поручение, без каких либо процентов, я вообще молчу
[12:08:12] <putnik> Maks|mapnik, 3,9 за приём — нормально.
[12:08:24] <putnik> А вот за вывод они как-то зажрались.
[12:09:13] <Maks|mapnik> ну вывод переводом я смотрю
[12:09:19] <Maks|mapnik> фактически это перевод
[12:09:53] <Maks|mapnik> просто вывод наверное дешевле, но наверное кучу банковских реквизитов там оставить для этого
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[12:47:21] <Zverik> миигаик офигенные условия предложил: не только зал, но взамен мы должны обещать провести пару лекций по osm
[12:54:13] <bim2010> Надо сразу кафедру OSM открывать :)
[12:54:58] <freeExec> а почётные звания :)
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[13:12:53] <Jim[work]> =)
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[13:28:28] <Hind> Zverik: пару лекций? Осмеры только рады будут промыть мозги будущим адептам :3
[13:28:33] <Hind> В хорошем смысле :3
[13:28:54] <Zverik> я вообще в восторге. Даже если выберу не их, нужно зацепиться за это предложение
[13:29:15] <Zverik> вопрос в том, есть ли москвичи, готовые на такое
[13:29:18] <Hind> Zverik: а как ты на них вышел-то
[13:29:37] <Zverik> Hind:
http://shtosm.ru/all/gotovim-telegu-zimoy/#comment5
[13:30:53] <Hind> Это очень круто, что тематический вуз заинтересовался. Теперь бы не провафлить это дело. Хотелось бы помочь
[13:31:09] <Hind> Пока не знаю, как. Лекцию прочитать не возьмусь, наверное. Хотя кот знает
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[14:25:14] <felis_pimeja> Zverik, отличные новости.
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[15:26:40] <Zverik> «Но как это ни здорово что есть mapbbcode.org, но гораздо лучше бы было, если бы этот функционал стал доступен в "Персональной карте" на
http://openstreetmap.ru»
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[15:33:38] <andrewsh> Komzzpa: каждый раз, когда я вижу zz в твоём никнейме, вспоминаю Trans Europa Expresssssss
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[15:45:24] <Komzzpa> andrewsh: это что и откуда?
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[16:07:16] <andrewsh> Komzzzpa: песнь такой.
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[21:00:25] <Maks|mapnik> ещё двум людям поставил MapsWithMe, счастья на квадратный километр заметно прибавилось
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[23:54:35] <trolleway> А правда, что на йотафоне есть предустановленный MapsWithMe с OSM?
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[23:58:03] <Zverik_h> trolleway_: да