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[09:22:45] <Maks|yasp> импорт всего экс-ussr в postgresql на обычном компе занимал не более часа, а на вполне приличном ноуте скоро будет сутки как идёт
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[12:14:19] <freeExec> bim2010: ты зачем удалил
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1694045/history
[12:15:13] <wowik> Zverik: где-то есть перевод на английский про связность
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=RU:%D0%A3%D0D%D08%D02%D05%D1%80%D1%81%D00%D0B%D1%8C%D0D%D1%8B%D09_%D02%D00%D0B%D08%D04%D00%D1%82%D0E%D1%80_%D0D%D00_%D0E%D1%81%D0D%D0E%D02%D05_%D0A%D0E%D0D%D02%D05%D1%80%D1%82%D00%D1%86%D08%D08_%D02_%D0%A1%D0%93#.D0.A1.D0.B2.D1.8F.D0.B7.D0.BD.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.82.D1.8C
[12:17:21] <freeExec> wowik: не цепляется ссылка
[12:20:03] <wowik> в валидаторе есть ссылка на русскую wiki для чего нужна связность,
[12:20:58] <wowik> мне приснилось, что был текст и на английском о том, что по категориям надо связно мапить
[12:24:23] <wowik> тут товарищт асфальтированные дороги любят secondary мапить
[12:24:31] <Zverik> wowik: нет
[12:24:58] <Zverik> англоязычным товарищам ещё предстоит открыть пользу от поддержания связности
[12:25:13] <wowik> это литовскоязычный
[12:25:41] <wowik> According to lithuanian mapping agreements we mark surfaced roads with ref as secondary. Unsurfaced ones as tertiary. (largest cities have slightly different marking rules)
[12:26:05] <wowik> результат такой:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/213190525
[12:28:29] <wowik> jyj rhfcbdj - chfpe dblyj? ult fcafkmn
[12:28:41] <wowik> оно красиво - сразу видно где асфальт
[12:30:10] <freeExec> ну покажи ему мапбокс с покритиями, раз ему асфальт нужен
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[12:33:09] <SergeyA> wowik:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/So_that_is_what_inaccessible_road_is!
[12:35:37] <Zverik> справа внизу — нормально, или лучше влево вниз?
http://share.mapbbcode.org/nwrxs
[12:36:08] <Komzpa> SergeyA: аняня
[12:36:20] <Komzpa> SergeyA: а что у вас с геоцентнером?
[12:39:00] <wowik> SergeyA: Да, мне это снилось, но там без связности по категориям
[12:39:13] <SergeyA> Komzpa: Да вроде всё нормально, грузится. :) Это для москвичей, не хотят они с OSM работать по политическим причинам.
[12:40:22] <Komzpa> SergeyA: о да, у них это бывает. рубильник "перейти на осм" оставлен же?)
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[12:41:20] <wowik> freeExec: что-то не найду я где у мапбокса карта
[12:41:54] <freeExec> ссылки нету, так бы дал
[12:41:56] <SergeyA> Komzpa: Конечно. Кроме того, на портале для обычных граждан всё равно альтернативы OSM нету по причине отсутствия нормального пешеходного роутинга у геоцентра. :)
[12:42:22] <Komzpa> ^^
[12:42:27] <Komzpa> прелесть
[12:49:31] <Zverik> wowik: у мапбокса нет открытых карт
[12:51:26] <freeExec> у AMDmi3 на сайте есть ссылка на сборку разных подложек вроде там видел
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[12:55:31] <freeExec> wowik:
http://www.itoworld.com/map/215
[12:56:34] <wowik> СпfreeExec: Спасибо
[12:58:01] <wowik> NenТут маленькая табличка с длинами дорог по некоторым странам получилась
http://saveimg.ru/pictures/26-11-13/1d16c20b23a73f7c75ccfdab6363fbf3.PNG
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[13:02:13] <freeExec> по нарастающей чтоли 7
[13:03:13] <wowik> север-юг
[13:04:53] <freeExec> не я про то что траки вслючают все дороги вообще
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[13:11:18] <wowik> Да, все подряд. Источники приведены тут
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=380991#p380991
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[13:14:55] <Zverik> в общем, появилось измерение длины треков:
http://share.mapbbcode.org/gttvz . Не очень удобно, но заметно
[13:17:42] <wowik> freeexec:Да oneway считается в пополаме
[13:18:11] <freeExec> :)
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[13:32:21] <Sadless74> wowik:
http://wowik.000space.com/places/ru-che/ есть ОКТМО городской округ Локомотивный и Трехгорный и есть отношения Локомотивный и Трехгорный городской округ и они не совмещены...
[13:32:29] <Sadless74> wowik: как совместить?
[13:37:12] <wowik> Sadless74: переобозвать
[13:38:15] <wowik> тут назревает силно горячее обсуждение. У всех свои рецепты по поводу как долно быть названо
[13:38:21] <Sadless74> из 16 гор.округов 14 названы Что-то гор. округ а два вдруг вылезли наоборот
[13:38:43] <Sadless74> пичалька
[13:39:04] <wowik> тут может и мой косяк,
[13:39:29] <wowik> из двух вариантов в разных местах придерживаются разных
[13:39:53] <Sadless74> может список исключений сделать. чтобы всем мозги не ломать
[13:40:37] <wowik> пока, похоже, надо сделать толерантнее, потом, формализовав получше, закручивать гайки
[13:41:57] <wowik> с округами еще пол беды. с поселениями хуже
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[13:47:23] <andrewsh> Zverik:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1462543_615038478531575_2088501975_o.jpg
[13:47:35] <Zverik> andrewsh: а раскрасить?
[13:47:46] <andrewsh> ну вот подумываю над :)
[13:47:57] <andrewsh> пойти купить акриловых красок, штолле
[13:48:35] <Zverik> давай-давай
[13:48:37] <old_Bibigon> синяя свечка?
[13:48:51] <andrewsh> гы, фб сильно корявит цвета:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/pohqkmuuz4mwxh6/2811JBYdxw
[13:49:05] <andrewsh> точнее, не цвета корявит, а цветовой профиль переписывает
[13:49:10] <andrewsh> а файрфокс их не есть
[13:49:25] <andrewsh> не ест
[13:49:28] <old_Bibigon> голубая свечка? Oo
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[13:50:21] <andrewsh> old_Bibigon: TARDIS.
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[13:59:54] <jekhor> andrewsh, у меня оба фото одинаково выглядят
[14:00:05] <jekhor> что в ФБ, что в ДБ
[14:00:50] <wowik> Sadless74: добавил в округа альтернативный вариант, заматчилось
[14:01:46] <andrewsh> jekhor: браузер какой?
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[14:02:00] <jekhor> iceweasel 24.1.0
[14:02:19] <andrewsh> странно.
[14:02:30] <andrewsh> у меня одно более синее
[14:03:56] <andrewsh> http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3299/hxdf.png
[14:04:39] <jekhor> gfx.color_management.mode у тебя в about:config во что выставлено?
[14:05:37] <andrewsh> 2
[14:06:59] <jekhor> аналогично
[14:08:15] <andrewsh> jekhor: у меня на всех машинах с файрфоксом фейсбучные картинки неправильно отображаются
[14:08:36] <andrewsh> поправка: с файрфоксом на x11
[14:08:40] <Sadless74> wowik: спасибо!
[14:08:42] <jekhor> ну я тоже замечал, что в них цвета бывают портятся
[14:09:25] <andrewsh> jekhor: потому что ФБ форсит sRGB или что-то там на жпеги
[14:10:56] <jekhor> нет, он умеет встроенные профили
[14:12:21] <jekhor> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gfx.color_management.mode
[14:13:37] <andrewsh> именно что фейсбук форсит его
[14:14:03] <jekhor> а, ФБ, не ФФ...
[14:14:11] <jekhor> обчитался :)
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[14:50:44] <SergeyA> bim2010: Тебя тут "добрыми" словами вспоминают -
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=380994#p380994
[14:51:18] <Komzpa> оооо!
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[14:51:29] <Komzpa> а давно в жосм сокс-прокси вкрутили?
[14:51:58] * Komzpa прицепился по ssh -DC наружу и стало литься повеселей
[15:00:18] <wowik> name="Поречье-Рыбное сельское поселение"
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[15:02:05] <wowik> j,j;f.? rjulf vfgzn gjl dfkblfnjh
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/912504/history
[15:02:22] <wowik> обожаю, когда мапят под валидатор
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[15:13:47] <freeExec> wowik: это ты про себя :)
[15:17:33] <wowik> в том числе, кругом родственные души
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[16:46:14] <bim2010> "признаю свою вину, меру степень, глубину, и прошу меня отправить на текущую войну."
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[17:51:02] <Zverik> andrewsh:
http://vozduh.afisha.ru/cinema/doktor-kto-i-spokoynoy-nochi-malyshi-50-let-vmeste/
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[18:07:37] <Maks|yasp> какой же я старый, я ещё помню тётю Валю
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[18:13:57] <andrewsh> Zverik: ты стянул афтепатю?
[18:14:09] <Zverik> andrewsh: ага
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[20:51:46] <AMDmi3> во, есть более адекватная метрика сравнения осм с навителом. у нас за полгода длина дорог выросла на 9.33%, у них - на 0.35%
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[21:55:17] <AMDmi3> хм. насколько корректным будет для shop=herbalist добавить иконку марихуаны? более подходящих просто нет..
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[22:16:36] <ErshKUS> Runge: мне не особо, но всё таки
http://openstreetmap.ru/#zoom=11&lat=54.7643&lon=20.5613&layer=S надпись "Гурьевский район" залезает на inner (outer города)
[22:17:08] <ErshKUS> Runge: стиль супер!
[22:21:41] <AMDmi3> power=line всё ещё отвратительны
[22:28:32] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: а НЕ в каталоге работает?
[22:29:23] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: не понял
[22:29:54] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: возможность указать что для некоего POI требуется ОТСУТСТВИЕ тэга
[22:31:03] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: я забыл, мы придумали как это делать?
[22:31:19] <AMDmi3> я тоже
[22:32:46] <AMDmi3> в
https://github.com/ErshKUS/osmCatalog/issues/54 вроде нет
[22:32:59] <AMDmi3> я предлагаю банальный "tag": "!value"
[22:35:54] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: согласен, josm юзает "-", но "!" более лучше
[22:36:29] <AMDmi3> с - можно наколоться as in oneway=-1
[22:36:39] <AMDmi3> а ! вроде не используется
[22:36:44] <ErshKUS> но обновление я уже запустил, да и в код нужно обавить поддержку, так что это уже в следующий апдейт
[22:37:01] <ErshKUS> во-во, поэтому "-" не гуд
[22:37:28] <AMDmi3> да мне не срочно, но хочется чтобы было
[22:37:56] <ErshKUS> вот только опять пресеты josm-а
[22:38:08] <ErshKUS> они то такое не умеют
[22:38:17] <AMDmi3> можно игнорировать
[22:38:35] <ErshKUS> ну или научить
[22:38:42] <ErshKUS> ну в общем решили
[22:38:58] <AMDmi3> не думаю что это нужно (по крайней мере с моими usecase)
[22:39:11] <AMDmi3> я хочу выделить цирк из театров
[22:39:38] <AMDmi3> это (amenity=theatre theatre:genre=-circus) и (amenity=theatre theatre:genre=circus)
[22:40:29] <AMDmi3> в пресетах во втором просто не будет списка жанров. в первом в списке жанров будет цирк, но это не сильно и проблема
[22:43:03] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: только учти что foo=-bar не должно требовать наличия тэга foo
[22:44:34] <ErshKUS> учту foo=!bar
[22:44:41] <AMDmi3> ой, да, !
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[22:58:59] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: а напомни плиз, description и wikipedia у тебя уже поддерживаются для всех объектов?
[22:59:36] <ErshKUS> да
[22:59:52] <AMDmi3> epic; было бы неплохо ещё alt_name добавить если нет
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[23:09:32] <AMDmi3> хм, или не выделять цирк. вон в москве куча "театров зверей и птиц"
[23:10:04] <AMDmi3> пожалуй выделю, но не буду убирать из театров
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