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[10:11:08] <gryphon> всех, кто работает с людьми, поздравляю с полнолунием
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[13:42:43] <Zverik> всем доброго утра, поздравляю с наступившей неделей Доктора
[13:43:01] <Zverik> вчера посмотрел самую первую серию, там натурально Доктор Зло
[13:43:17] <Zverik> взял двух учителей в заложники, посмеиваясь, и отправил в каменный век
[13:46:04] <freeExec> а да черно белое, я тоже начал смотреть в прошлом году, но что-то так до 2 сезона и не добрался :(
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[13:56:28] <putnik> andrewsh, чем табы не тру?
[13:59:57] <andrewsh> тем, что табы
[14:01:04] <putnik> andrewsh, ох уж эти ваши религиозные замашки.
[14:04:23] <psha[work]> табы труъ!
[14:04:34] <psha[work]> только в питоне табы не труъ
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[15:37:27] <Sanjak> от аэродрома осталась взлетная полоса. официально имеет статут недействующим. полосу позначать тегами?
[15:44:27] <freeExec> только не спрашивай на форуме, а то будет очередной фейл abandoned=yes / abandoned:airoway=yes
[16:09:01] * Zverik только что впервые за долгое время порисовал в жосме
[16:09:47] <Zverik> смотрите, завидуйте: я — участник // русскоязычного сообщества участников проекта OpenStreetMap!
[16:11:57] <Zverik> (эх, надо было s/участник/член/)
[16:13:23] <Zverik> http://я.член.jpg.to/ (внезапно, ГИС)
[16:14:21] <freeExec> или я из
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[19:26:45] <Zverik> о, сеть «синема парк» поняла, какая радость этот Доктор, и выделила ещё несколько залов в разных кинотеатрах под сеанс.
[19:26:45] <Zverik> А также негромко покаялась, что сеанс перенесён на 23:50 — правда, их веб-интерфейс не позволяет перенос, поэтому всё на словах, а билеты до сих пор на 23:00.
[19:27:04] <putnik> Фак.
[19:27:11] <putnik> Т. е. можно купить нормальный билет?
[19:27:23] <Zverik> ага
[19:27:32] <Zverik> я немного огорчён
[19:28:01] <Zverik> putnik: там новые кинотеатры добавились, кстати
[19:28:27] <Zverik> в Петербурге два новых, залы почти пустые пока
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[19:29:47] <putnik> Zverik, http://booking.www.cinemapark.ru/start/14/114651/ =(
[19:30:26] <Zverik> да-да, такое же
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[19:48:35] <Zverik> неожиданно, мини-эпизод доктора, который все пропустили: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8I9z6Y4mBY
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[19:54:51] <Zverik> ого. Ещё один: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_UU_qWLvm4
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[20:16:31] <Zverik> господа, у вас эта карта правильно работает? http://osmz.ru/overzoom.html
[20:18:24] <andrewsh> неж
[20:18:26] <andrewsh> нед
[20:18:39] <andrewsh> фейлует
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[20:34:07] <Zverik> корявая, но обязательная заметка: http://shtosm.ru/all/the-best-map-library-youll-see-all-day/
[20:38:43] <andrewsh> every day all day
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[21:58:34] <AMDmi3> прально прально. табы рулят
[21:58:50] <AMDmi3> но только для отступов
[22:01:32] <shurik> гитаристы бы с тобой не согласились
[22:02:11] <AMDmi3> да, и дизайнеры UI
[22:02:28] <ErshKUS> shurik: не все, некоторые даже не проч :)
[22:03:46] <ErshKUS> я так понимаю, у пробелов только плюс если такое выравнивание?:
[22:04:34] <ErshKUS> per = 1
[22:04:34] <ErshKUS> perMore = 2
[22:05:14] <ErshKUS> хм, даже тут шрифт по*ерил выравнивание :)
[22:05:58] <AMDmi3> у пробелов и табов нет плюсов и минусов, есть свойства
[22:06:38] <AMDmi3> табы - настраиваемой ширины, пробелы постоянной. именно поэтому для отступов годятся только табы, для выравнивания - только пробелы
[22:06:39] <ErshKUS> ок, холивар не удался :(
[22:07:13] <AMDmi3> у меня не похерил. тут да, нужны пробелы
[22:07:47] <AMDmi3> --->--->int myvar = 1,
[22:07:47] <AMDmi3> --->---> myothervar = 2;
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[23:09:23] <Zverik_home> когда табы шириной 4, можно --->--->--->myothervar = 2;
[23:09:56] <Zverik_home> да и любой другой, потому что продолжение предыдущей строки означает +1 таб к отступу
[23:09:59] <AMDmi3> нельзя, это ломает всё схему
[23:10:40] <AMDmi3> "табы шириной 4" - это оксюморон, у меня 3, у Васи 17 - и всё разъедется
[23:23:40] <shurik> у меня tabstop я никогда не интересуюсь какой, а shiftwidth=2
[23:24:07] <shurik> практика показывает что обычно равно ts=8
[23:24:14] <AMDmi3> а какой практический смысл в shiftwidth != tabstop?
[23:26:56] <shurik> никакой; у меня или cindent использует sw, или я ручками два пробела ставлю
[23:27:17] <shurik> главное expandtab не забыть а то ведь падла энное число пробелов на таб заменяет
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