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[12:51:38] <Zverik> Поставил на
http://mapbbcode.org наглядный пример (нужно тыкнуть в ссылку «actual maps)
[12:53:41] <freeExec> не понял в чём отличие от дефолтного кроме подложки ?
[12:56:04] <Zverik> ни в чём, просто чтобы показать, что не обязательно именно карты
[12:56:47] <freeExec> аа
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[13:11:56] <andrewsh> > share.mapbbcode.org
[13:11:57] <andrewsh> ДА!
[13:14:35] <Zverik> :)
[13:17:00] <andrewsh> Zverik: ты же сделаешь что-то вроде урла, которому даёшь строку, а он рендерит мапку:
[13:17:04] <andrewsh> ?
[13:17:21] <Zverik> andrewsh: в смысле, ббкод? Не планировал, но почему бы и нет
[13:18:11] <andrewsh> ну, в смысле, share.mapbbcode.org/?q=59.939,30.3159;%2059.93709,30.31265%2059.93115,30.3602
[13:18:28] <Runge> Zverik: на
http://share.mapbbcode.org/ в слоях MapSurfer, а было бы лучше OpenMapSurfer
[13:18:31] <Runge> :)
[13:18:38] <andrewsh> Runge: а в чём разница?
[13:19:14] <andrewsh> лично я вообще категорически против названия OpenMapSurfer
[13:19:29] <andrewsh> пока не будут выложены исходники, это обман
[13:19:48] <andrewsh> и дезинформация
[13:20:05] <Runge> OpenMapSurfer - это картографический сервис, а MapSurfer.NET это фреймворк (софт, библиотека и т.д.) для рендеринга карт. не хочу чтобы было недопонимание когда я выложу софт для общего пользования
[13:20:09] <Zverik> мне тоже не нравится, но по другой причине — сливается с OpenStreetMap. Впрочем, хозяин — барин
[13:20:27] <andrewsh> Runge: объясни наличие Open в названии
[13:20:37] <Runge> серфер по открытым картам
[13:20:56] <Runge> но не открытые коды, там и кодов то нет. только карты )
[13:20:57] <andrewsh> ты понимаешь, что это название двусмысленное?
[13:21:08] <andrewsh> я, например, читаю это как открытый сёрфер по мапам
[13:21:13] <andrewsh> по любым, заметь
[13:21:40] <Runge> ну карты OpenStreetMap, оттуда и открытые
[13:21:53] <andrewsh> OpenStreetMap Surfer тогда
[13:21:58] <andrewsh> с явным разделением
[13:22:00] <Zverik> всё, починил название
[13:22:04] <Runge> спасибо
[13:22:05] <andrewsh> OpenStreetMap ClosedSurfer даже
[13:22:14] <andrewsh> не, ну в самом деле
[13:22:19] <andrewsh> OpenWindows
[13:22:23] <andrewsh> OpenGoogle
[13:22:25] <Zverik> OpenStreetMap — это не карты открытых улиц
[13:23:45] <Runge> в OpenStreetMap есть и карты и данные, я интерпретирую OpenStreetMap как источник данных. Они давно уже перестали быть только картами
[13:23:54] <Zverik> сейчас создаётся впечатление, что есть два продукта: MapSurfer и OpenMapSurfer
[13:24:23] <Runge> продуктов нет )). Есть сервис построенный на голом энтузиазме
[13:25:58] <Runge> andrewsh: OpenStreetMap ClosedSurfer не получится назвать, поскольку на сайте используются различные источники данных. ОСМ лишь часть их
[13:26:05] <Zverik> это немного наивная точка зрения :) продукт есть всегда
[13:26:15] <Runge> ))
[13:27:10] <Runge> вот опять все в исходники уперлось. вот сколько человек с форрума (возьмем пока русский) правят исходники того же мапника и более того, учавствуют в его разработке?
[13:28:21] <Zverik> вопрос не в исходниках, как тут не понятно? Они нужны от силы пяти человекам. Вопрос в позиционировании
[13:29:15] <Zverik> ты постоянно дразнишь: то открываешь кусочками и намекаешь, что дальше — больше, то неясно объясняешь про лицензионный статус, то "Open" в названии форсируешь
[13:29:45] <Runge> я это понимаю. под открытостью я лично понимаю, открыте карты, которые построенные на открытых гео-данных
[13:29:51] <Zverik> нужно взять и выбрать свою позицию, и жёстко на ней стоять. Без всяких расшаркиваний
[13:30:27] <Zverik> На базе OSM сделано примерно втрое больше чем дофига коммерческих приложений, и никто из известных мне не называл приложение Open из-за этого
[13:31:01] <andrewsh> Zverik: хотя не, MapQuest Open и OpenCycleMap.
[13:31:25] <andrewsh> правда, некоммерческие типа
[13:31:30] <andrewsh> но и не открытые
[13:31:52] <andrewsh> но это не пример для подражания
[13:32:22] <Zverik> andrewsh: MQ Open — потому что есть продукт MQ, и в «открытой» версии не только используются наши карты, но и сервисы открыты всем без ограничений. Это главное, а не OSM, на самом деле. Альтернатив MQ Open очень мало, так и не вспомнишь
[13:32:27] <andrewsh> хотя не, OpenCycleMap уже дали расшифровку
[13:32:32] <andrewsh> OpenStreetMap cyclemap
[13:33:46] <Zverik> andrewsh: мужик как бы говорит: «что, нашёл?» :)
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[13:36:00] <Zverik> andrewsh: похоже на схему тайловой инфраструктуры
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[14:28:22] <Sanjak> место таможенного оформления поза пунктом пропуска... как позначить?
[14:28:32] <Sanjak> .вне
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[15:54:03] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: как там с обновлением POI?
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[16:11:16] <ErshKUS[work]> AMDmi3: пока никак
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