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[14:55:23] <kisaa> Всем добрый! Перевожу статью вики wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:power%3Dplant
[14:55:23] <kisaa> возник вопрос:
[14:55:54] <kisaa> в оригинале, power - это не только электрическая энергия, и powerplant = это не только электростанция
[14:56:12] <kisaa> например, котельная - это, по идее, powerplant
[14:56:17] <kisaa> но не электростанция
[14:57:04] <kisaa> так вот... как перевести этот термин на русский - максимально точно и чтобы не сломать глаза? Энергостанция?
[14:58:13] <kisaa> ссылка поломалась, в общем, RU: Tag: power = plant
[14:59:25] <tryagain> энергетический объект/
[14:59:33] <tryagain> или объетк энергетики
[15:00:26] <kisaa> Хотелось бы покороче: англ "The name by which the power plant is known." - рус "Название, под которым известна энергостанция."
[15:00:52] <kisaa> "Название, под которым известен объект энергетики" ?
[15:01:19] <kisaa> в принципе, можно и так
[15:01:47] <tryagain> "Общепринятое название объекта"
[15:02:26] <tryagain> имхо совсем не обязательно следовать английскому построению предложений
[15:03:32] <kisaa> Дело не в английском построении, я понимаю. Дело в данном термине
[15:06:41] <tryagain> думаю, можно начать статью с определения "объекта энергетики", а далее вполне взаимозаменяемо использовать термин "объект"
[15:07:05] <kisaa> :) разумно
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[15:21:30] <Maks|bigtime> Энергостанция — термин встречавшийся мне только то в произведениях фантастики
[15:22:17] <Maks|bigtime> сам если что, работаю сейчас в офисе энергоцентра электростанции :)
[15:22:44] <kisaa> ну а как назвать одним словом котельную, ТЭЦ и ГЭС?
[15:23:44] <kisaa> в одной на выходе - только тепло, в другой - только электричество, а в третьей - и то, и другое %)
[15:24:12] <Maks|bigtime> ну так а чем объект энергетики предложеннный не нравится?
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[15:25:49] <kisaa> сильно длинный ))
[15:26:17] <tryagain> кстати, объект энергетики тоже не совсем правильно. Трансформаторная подстанция - объект, но к теме статьи, как я понимаю, не относится.
[15:26:20] <kisaa> и в чем-то неоднозначный: например, подстанция - тоже объект энергетики
[15:26:24] <kisaa> да, я о том же
[15:26:24] <tryagain> гы
[15:26:47] <kisaa> т.е. речь идет о "генерирующем энергетическом объекте", а это уже вообще в ворота не лезет
[15:26:58] <kisaa> при этом это не генератор
[15:27:12] <kisaa> т.к. генератор - это составляющие powerplant'a
[15:28:35] <Maks|bigtime> под генератором подразумевается энергоблок, я так понимаю?
[15:28:43] <tryagain> надо вводное предложение правильно перевести "A power station (601-03-01, also referred to as a generating station, power plant, or powerhouse) is an industrial facility for the generation of energy (electricity, useful heat...). ", с использоавнием оборота "далее именуемое объект"
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[15:29:40] <kisaa> Генератор - энергоблок. Или отдельный ветряк. Или бойлерная. На той же котельной - еще площадка для угля, домик для персонала и т.д.
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[15:29:54] <kisaa> да, вводную часть отполирую, дальше проще
[15:31:10] <tryagain> кстати, открыл ссылку, там на большинстве языков какая-то электроцентраль получается
http://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&ievref=601-03-01
[15:31:41] <tryagain> а, онаж не только электро
[15:32:09] <tryagain> короче, ссылка не правильная
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[16:43:10] <Maks|bigtime> Error in style: Error: X3:NOT
[16:43:36] <Maks|bigtime> вот я не понял, оно получается что вроде как "не ХЗ"?
[16:43:59] <Maks|bigtime> или скорее ХЗ что тут на NOT такой ^)
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