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[00:08:37] <mixaill> Тест
[00:09:59] <shurik> фэйльд
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[11:06:28] <Runge> доброго всем. кто нибудь знает как на osm.org в стандартном рендерере обновляются coastline?
[11:07:00] <Maks|off> обновляются по прежнему крайне редко
[11:07:07] <Maks|off> раз в месяц, иногда дольше
[11:09:44] <Runge> спасибо. я почему то подумал, что так же часто как и остальные данные
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[13:17:05] <CutterRus> нифига в саранске автобусы
[13:18:09] <CutterRus> смотрю на автобусы на bus13, а этот как полетел))
http://joxi.ru/uploads/prod/20130703/542/0d4/c7ebdddf8177766c983525596a05b7846aa5cad3.png?v=2.1.2 через парки и дома
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[13:41:22] <Hind> Какой ужас, лес во дворе
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[13:42:02] <CutterRus> комуфляж от шпионов
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[13:59:07] <Junglist> есть какой-то рабочий способ подключить кадастровую карту в ЖОСМ?
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[13:59:48] <Junglist> А то ссылки с Вики не пашут чего-то, а может чего не так делаю...
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[16:34:34] <Junglist> подключил таки кадастр. Так это оказывается не менее полезное средство привязки снимков Бинга к местности. Если треки отсутствуют, то вполне может сгодится! А про это не было нигде в Вики
[16:35:44] <Mezonin_> напиши
[16:37:35] <Junglist> да надо бы, ведь кадастр есть везде, даже в таких дебрях, где люди про ОСМ и ГПС никогда не слышали
[16:42:52] <freeExec|2> эээ он креевее любого глючного gps привязывать не стоит
[16:52:52] <psha[work]> freeExec|2: где как
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[17:05:34] <Maks|off> Junglist: кадастр очень крив, некоторые его куски зачастую даже не попадают в реальные объекты
[17:05:49] <Maks|off> и есть он далеко не везде
[17:10:08] <Mezonin_> Люди, пожскажите, ведь на свете еще не существует a black box map component with 3d perspective. То есть, чтобы я тупо вставил за полчаса в приложение и у меня появилось 3d. Или Apple Maps такое позволяет? iOS
[17:10:44] <Mezonin_> в контексте turn by turn navigation
[17:14:36] <Junglist> а как они вообще все это делают? не со смартфоном с ГПС-ом же они по участкам лазят. я про кадастр
[17:16:56] <freeExec|2> на наши налоги геодизисты лазят по углам
[17:17:55] <Maks|off> теодолит, пачка беломора, линейка
[17:18:32] <Zverik> Junglist: кадастр почти везде смещён, до 40 метров
[17:18:39] <Junglist> и всё это не дает должной точности?
[17:19:06] <Junglist> ааа, т.е. какая-то систематическая погрешность
[17:19:33] <Zverik> где как. В некоторых областях постоянный сдвиг, в некоторых — плавающие смещения, где-то всё точно
[17:20:04] <Maks|off> не только общее смещение, объекты часто смещены на сотни метров и вообще как будто в другой проекции взяты
[17:20:49] <Maks|off> некоторые даже повёрнуты на приличнуй угол, встречал СНТ, достаточно точно по геометрии совпадающее, но повёрнутое на 30-45 градусов
[17:21:13] <Zverik> да, с расстановкой объектов там вообще пипец. Я-то про границы
[17:21:42] <Maks|off> так в кадастре всё - границы
[17:21:50] <Zverik> помнится, Provincial удивлялся повёрнутому контуру Рыбинска
[17:22:17] <Maks|off> вот что более-менее точно там, так это маленькие квадратики отчуждения земли под ЛЭП :)
[17:22:25] <Maks|off> под опорами
[17:23:59] <freeExec|2> хм.. а почему не всё земля где копать нельзя под кабели
[17:24:06] <Junglist> мдя...
[17:24:40] <Maks|off> freeExec|2: потому что под лэп капать не запрещено
[17:25:11] <Maks|off> если конечно не большой техникой
[17:25:24] <freeExec|2> не не леп, подземные кабели
[17:25:56] <Maks|off> ну у нас не так много подземных кабелей
[17:26:35] <Maks|off> это уже только местные, внутри квартала какие нибудь
[17:28:25] <Maks|off> т.е. не выше 0,4кВ
[17:28:50] <Maks|off> а 330кВ заколебёшься закапывать, все черви и жуки зажарятся :)
[17:31:14] <Maks|off> находил так же в кадастре границы нефтепроводов, т.е. полоса пару метров шириной отчуждения земли
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[17:31:57] <freeExec|2> если там ещё можно было по слоям грузить, чисто дороги, реки и населенные пункты
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[17:40:17] <Junglist> да уш, с кадастром облом конешно. Ну я в упор не понимаю, как такая ошибка появляется? Ведь они пришли со своим теодолитом, точно померили координаты и «постреляли» им по нужным точкам участка, получается точно узнали все остальные координаты.
[17:40:45] <Maks|off> ну да, замерили может и точно
[17:40:47] <Junglist> когда же может появится такая дебильная ошибка?
[17:41:11] <Maks|off> но кадастр - это несколько сот маленьких контор, которые хранят свои данные кто в чём
[17:41:24] <Maks|off> кто-то даже в бумажных кальках неизвестной проекции
[17:41:48] <Junglist> дебилизм отечественный
[17:43:02] <Maks|off> знакомый тут вступал в права наследования и надо было оформить несколько бумаг, оказалось что на территорию ёго посёлка в регистрационной палате есть только схема отрисованная от руки шариковой ручкой по ватману. Без масштаба и привязки
[17:43:54] <Maks|off> сидели, по моим фотографиям рисовали план местности маркером прямо по ихней схеме
[17:44:26] <Maks|off> а потом ксерили и заверяли печатью
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[17:46:58] <Maks|off> расстроился человек
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[17:51:02] <Maks|off> в MWM в разделе загрузки карт, категорическти не хватает отдельно пунка меню «закаченные», где бы можно было все уже закачанные карты увидеть и обновить, не шарахаясь по странам и континетам
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[19:37:09] <ambush> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV9sQ43dnAo
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[19:43:50] <AMDmi3> боян. вообще, печально. глонасс проапгрейдился бы на 3 спутника
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[20:00:48] <Mezonin> интересно, а эти стутники зачем были нужные, точность может быть увеличилась
[20:00:58] <Mezonin> или "захват" просто быстрее происходил
[20:07:17] <Mezonin> http://developer.garmin.com/web-products/web-services/
[20:07:18] <AMDmi3> и то и то, очевидно
[20:18:28] <psha> Mezonin: кортинки доставляют
[20:19:23] <Mezonin> comming soon
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[22:41:55] <Maks|off> psha: а разве не достаточно просто захотеть есть?
[22:42:28] <ErshKUS> Maks|off: не всегда :)
[22:42:53] <Zverik_> psha: вечером есть вредно
[22:43:13] <Zverik_> делай как я -- выпей молока с конфетой и спать :)
[22:43:28] <Maks|off> лучше с селёдкой
[22:43:47] <psha> Maks|off: недостаточно :]
[22:44:40] * Maks|off никогда в жизни не ел вечером
[22:44:51] <psha> да я похоже тоже не буду )
[22:44:56] <psha> потому что пока мотивацию не вижу)
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[22:45:21] <Maks|off> у меня всегда день переходил либо в ночь и сон либо сразу в утро
[22:47:37] <psha> ну я жэ офизный планктон
[22:47:52] <Maks|off> я тоже
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[23:04:42] <vvoovv> psha: закажи пиццу
[23:07:49] <psha> я их баусь
[23:09:16] <vvoovv> тогда выпей пива с чипсами - хороший калорийный ужин получится
[23:11:29] <psha> о! у меня есть кефир с молочной кухни! )
[23:11:35] <psha> буду объедать сына )
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[23:11:49] <psha> всё равно он столько
[23:11:52] <psha> не хранится
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[23:15:51] <vvoovv> нормально, кефир тоже алкоголь содержит
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[23:31:51] <trolleway> Бинг по городу Зубцов детектед.
[23:32:18] <trolleway> по юго-западным окраинам Москвы не детектед
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