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[00:04:26] <trolleway> В русской википедии больше нет ссылки, по которой показывалась карта ОСМ
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[00:18:51] <CutterRus> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/8042/88r8.png вызывающее приложение :D
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[00:37:31] <trolleway> потрясающий карандашный стиль у мапбокса
[00:38:01] <trolleway> я его распечатал - реально выглядит как вторая ксерокопия с бумажной схемы
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[01:06:35] <psha> trolleway: так они ксероксом поди и рендерят
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[10:11:16] <Maks|water> Господа, а кто есть из админов worker1@rambler ?
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[11:28:08] <Maks|water> old_Bibigon: появился бинг и поналетели потлачеры рисовать дворовые проезды
[11:28:44] <Maks|water> вот только 90% из них не соотвествуют геометрии дороги, т.е. вообще напрямую, игнорируя все изгибы дороги
[11:28:56] <Maks|water> и 80% нис чем не соеденины, просто набор палок
[11:29:22] <Maks|water> охохо, бингопроблемы
[11:34:29] <old_Bibigon> :)
[11:39:26] <CutterRus> это какой город?
[11:39:32] <CutterRus> Maks|water:
[11:43:04] <Maks|water> Кирово-Чепецк
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[11:45:33] <Maks|water> судя по всему, ещё и рисуют под текущее смещение домов и существующих дорог, не пытаясь что-то двигать
[11:45:48] <Maks|water> ибо там местами с дикими смещениями иногда дома стоят :)
[11:46:07] <Maks|water> но может оно и к лучшему, я сам лучше потихоньку подвину дома
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[14:26:16] <ErshKUS> а какая у нас сейчас ситуация с площадными дорогами?
[14:29:36] <freeExec> чепецк и марсёрф рендерят
[14:31:14] <CutterRus> вы про area:highway? мапсёрф не рендерит
[14:32:20] <freeExec> хм.. действительно, наверное показалось
[14:33:24] <CutterRus> заведующий мапсёрфом тут вроде говорил, что он убрал это, потому что ему не нравится
[14:34:57] <freeExec> ErshKUS: а по какому поводу интерес ?
[14:35:32] <ErshKUS> просто интересно как у нас сейчас
[14:35:49] <ErshKUS> Зверик вроде разводил срач что это не нужно
[14:37:22] <freeExec> только аргументов он нормальных не принёс почему
[14:37:50] <ErshKUS> я и говорю, срач
[14:37:56] <ErshKUS> :)
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[16:13:08] <Maks|water> господа, есть где для новичков страничка с описанием и картинками, как рисовать дороги, почему надо соединять общие точки?
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[16:23:56] <bim2010> Здравствуйте! Есть ли такая возможность в JOSM сделать быстрый переход и скачивание интересующей области с возможной ошибкой. Мне известны например: changeset="15492004" relation id="2839138"
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[16:32:00] <Maks|water> bim2010: File -> Download object -> relation
[16:33:08] <bim2010> А как это задать из внешней программы? Я пишу свой обработчик ошибок.
[16:34:09] <bim2010> Типа запустить JOSM с параметрами.
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[16:36:34] <Maks|water> смотри плагин в josm удалённое управление
[16:36:51] <Maks|water> по моему оно уже не плагин, а часть самого josm
[16:45:11] <bim2010> Спасибо! А может кто посмотреть это реальная ошибка или нет way id="211584499" входит в relation id="2839138" но у меня обработчик решил что поскольку полигон не замкнут и этот way вообще находится отдельно то это ошибка. Так ли это. <tag...
[16:45:13] <bim2010> ...k="natural" v="wood"/> Или если стоит <tag k="type" v="multipolygon"/> то это может быть не один объект?
[16:47:32] <Maks|water> любой из членов мультиполигона может собираться из отдельных линий
[16:47:54] <Maks|water> сумма которых в итоге должна быть замкнута, для каждого члена
[16:48:36] <bim2010> <relation id="2839138" version="3" timestamp="2013-03-25T14:12:26Z" uid="380289" user="FMS" changeset="15492004">
[16:48:38] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378705" role="outer"/>
[16:48:39] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212384150" role="outer"/>
[16:48:41] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212384121" role="outer"/>
[16:48:42] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212384137" role="outer"/>
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[16:48:44] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212384101" role="outer"/>
[16:48:45] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212394220" role="outer"/>
[16:48:47] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378707" role="outer"/>
[16:48:48] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378711" role="outer"/>
[16:48:50] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378709" role="outer"/>
[16:48:52] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378715" role="outer"/>
[16:48:54] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378714" role="outer"/>
[16:48:55] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378686" role="outer"/>
[16:48:57] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378721" role="outer"/>
[16:48:58] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378718" role="outer"/>
[16:49:00] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378704" role="outer"/>
[16:49:01] <bim2010> <member type="way" ref="212378695" role="outer"/>
[16:49:03] <bim2010> <tag k="natural" v="wood"/>
[16:49:04] <bim2010> <tag k="note" v="logland"/>
[16:49:06] <bim2010> <tag k="source" v="bing"/>
[16:49:07] <bim2010> <tag k="type" v="multipolygon"/>
[16:49:09] <bim2010> <tag k="wood" v="mixed"/>
[16:49:10] <bim2010> </relation>
[16:49:46] <Maks|water> за такое в IRC банят
[16:50:02] <bim2010> Пардон
[16:53:04] <bim2010> и это не тот relation
[16:58:46] <bim2010> relation id="2839138" состоит из двух полигонов один собран всего из одного замкнутого way id="211584499". второй полигон замкнут и состоит из остальных way. И нет никаких тегов позволяющих определить сколько здесь объектов.
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[21:02:33] <olegg> как узнать высоту над уровнем моря
[21:33:12] <olegg> ?
[21:34:32] <andrewsh> померять.
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[22:04:23] <olegg> чем барометром ?
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[22:04:41] <olegg> с какой точностью можно определить
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[22:07:53] <Mixaill> olegg: http://meteoclub.ru/index.php?action=vthread&forum=7&topic=2569#6
[22:07:53] <Mixaill> Точность GPS при измерении высоты, если не ошибаюсь, +/- 15 метров
[22:11:55] <olegg> а если барометром ?
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