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[01:40:52] <bomj_s_komputerom> хм
[01:40:55] <bomj_s_komputerom> мапсвизми
[01:40:58] <bomj_s_komputerom> это просто пушка
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[02:11:42] <CutterRus> bomj_s_komputerom: почему?
[02:12:05] <CutterRus> гы, завтра день кино какой-то. много фильмов по 100р в кинотеатре
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[09:44:00] <gryphon> господа, а что есть поприличнее для WinCE 6 с картами ОСМ, бесплатно?
[09:53:59] <shurik> покетгис?
[09:54:22] <shurik> навител, ситигид, русса?
[09:55:00] <gryphon> и все бесплатно?
[09:55:27] <shurik> кое-что бесплатно неофициально ;)
[09:58:09] <borism3461> Полностью бесплатно "Семь дорог"
[09:59:59] <gryphon> спасибо, глянем
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[12:59:10] <Mixailll> http://habrahabr.ru/post/184698/ Alizar не может не натрындеть
[12:59:10] <Mixailll> >>выпустила Windows Server («Blue») для подписчиков MSDN
[12:59:10] <Mixailll> В свободном доступе оно. И не на MSDN, а на Technet.
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[14:34:44] <Zverik> зелёные новости: «В Латвии проверят законность взрывания кротов»
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[14:35:25] <AMDmi3> прочитал "котов"
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[18:00:31] <Zverik> почитал
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:JOSM/Модули/utilsplugin2 , обнаружил, что когда-то написал много полезных функций, и забыл о них
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[18:37:31] <Maks|off> https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-trail/handhelds/monterra-/prod113522.html#specsTab
[18:37:48] <Maks|off> Android® with Google Play for complete customization
[18:39:18] <Maks|off> наконец то гармин выпустил правильный телефон
[18:39:30] <Maks|off> с кошерным навигатором и без собственно телефона
[18:39:44] <Mixaill> Maks|off: чем оно принципиально отличается от любой другой защищенной мобилки ?
[18:40:41] <Mixaill> А, хреновым экраном и работой от АА.
[18:40:52] <Maks|off> тем, что это действительно защищённый навигатор
[18:41:36] <Maks|off> пока что ни одна из "как-бы-защищённых" мобилок не пережила нормального походного гармина
[18:42:11] <Zverik> и до сих пор ограничение на 10к точек треклога
[18:42:35] <Maks|off> Zverik: для походного - это нормально
[18:42:48] <Zverik> это всего три часа
[18:42:56] <Maks|off> да ну?
[18:43:24] <Maks|off> в режиме максимальной частоты у меня вполне на старом орегоне пишет весь путь Киров-Коломна, 12-14 часов
[18:43:49] <Zverik> во внутреннюю память или gpx на sd-карточке?
[18:44:15] <Maks|off> другое дело, что частота эта гораздо ниже чем у треккера, который не анализирует содержимое трека и не фильтрует ровные участки и может налепить за час 40 МБ трек
[18:44:27] <Zverik> какой бред
[18:44:39] <Maks|off> а разве гармин писал когда либо треки на внешний SD?
[18:44:43] <Zverik> эээ
[18:44:58] <Zverik> у меня старая легенда hcx, я ею именно в таком формате и пользуюсь
[18:45:24] <Zverik> память забивается через 3 часа (3600 точек в час), поэтому в этом смысле навигатор бесполезен
[18:45:39] <Maks|off> нашёл что називать навигатором
[18:45:54] <Zverik> если навигатор пишет больше 1 точки в секунду (или как у тебя 40 мегабайт, если ты не опечатался, получается?), он сломан
[18:45:59] <Maks|off> ты ещё утюги на углях вспомни
[18:46:24] <Zverik> смешно
[18:46:42] <Zverik> можешь ещё над моей нокией семилетней посмеяться
[18:47:22] <Maks|off> давай ещё сравнивать твою нокию 3110 по возможностям навигации с каким нибудь таблоидом на андроиде 4-м
[18:47:41] <Zverik> я смотрю на технические характеристики, а не на какие игрульки можно запустить на этом навигаторе
[18:47:50] <Zverik> GPS, в смысле
[18:47:59] <Zverik> и они, похоже, не менялись уже 10 лет
[18:48:47] <Maks|off> легенда-hcx, если самая из последних, то там максимум сёрф-3 и полное отсутсвие какой либо стабилизации и фильтрации отражённых сигналов
[18:49:32] <Maks|off> как навигатор, именно как навигатор а не как игрушка, с его страшно допотопным процессором и полным отсутсвием постобработки он морально устарел на несколько поколений
[18:50:59] <Maks|off> на 2 поколения точно, если в этом новом "игрушке" новый чип не придумали или не наставили обработки доплнительной
[18:52:02] <Maks|off> точнее не морально, а технически
[18:57:28] <Maks|off> судя по скриншотам, сам софт навигации там тот же стоит в последних моих nuvy
[18:57:46] <Maks|off> есть очень специфичные общие косяки
[18:58:43] <Maks|off> я как-то сразу обратил внимание, что последние нувики автомобильные совершенно другой рендер имеют, не такой как на предыдущих Oregon/Colorado/Dacota
[18:59:07] <Maks|off> похоже они андроид уже давно используют в качестве платформы
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[19:19:02] <Maks|off> Zverik: а что ты подразумеваешь под ограничение на 10к точек треклога?
[19:19:45] <Maks|off> в современных гарминах это всего лишь цифра при достижении которой он начинает писать новый файл, а старый сохраняет автоматически
[19:20:23] <Zverik> ну если так, то это лучше, конечно. Мой просто останавливает запись в память (но gpx пишет).
[19:21:30] <Maks|off> на автомобильном, я например ни разу с меонта покупки ни сохранял трек, он сам их копит в папке архивов, потому что там даже функции нет сохранить трек
[19:22:18] <Maks|off> а недавно давал на пару месяцев свой орегон и люди просто не знали как сохранить, точнее не хотели уметь, и по возвращении я обнаружил там такую же папочку архивную
[19:22:50] <Maks|off> потом проверил на несвоей монтане новой - аналогично
[19:23:20] <Maks|off> правда у автомобюильного есть свои косяки, он хоть и сохраняет всё автоматом, но удаляет самые старые треки потом
[19:23:29] <Maks|off> у орегона такого косяка не заметил
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[19:38:23] <Mixaill> Leaflet 0.6
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[23:30:27] <Zverik_> о студентах пишут:
http://mutoids.livejournal.com/230376.html
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