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[00:00:05] <Maks|2ssd> ну я навскидку могу десятка полтора косяков крупных назвать, но не буде :)
[00:00:09] <Maks|2ssd> *не буду
[00:00:59] <CutterRus> домики бы посветлее) хотя не представляю как это будет выглядеть
[00:01:01] <ErshKUS> Maks|2ssd: "...молчите порутчик, молчите."
[00:05:47] <Mezonin_> вообще, стиль у Макса - радикальный имприссеонизм.
[00:06:02] <Mezonin_> импре*
[00:06:06] <Mezonin_> ссио*
[00:07:31] <Mezonin_> допустим, natural=* забирает внимание куда больше, чем building=*
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[00:09:58] <Mezonin_> то есть, water имеет такой же контрастный уровень, а значит акцентирует на себе внимание, как major hightways
[00:16:23] <Maks|2ssd> ну вопервых контрастность water на 40% ниже hw, а на обзорных зумах на 65% ниже
[00:16:57] <Maks|2ssd> а во вторых контрастность building имеет 4 уровня по разным масштаба
[00:17:26] <Maks|2ssd> не нужны контрастные building на отдалённых зумах
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[00:19:25] <Maks|2ssd> ну и natural всё таки занимет 90% площади карты, в отличии от building, которые по моим подсчётам занимают менее 1%
[00:21:41] <Mezonin_> мне кажется, что чем выше порог контрастности, тем выше реакция внимания на этот участок, поэтому вопрос в том, на что хочет указать "карта" прежде всего, если на natural=*, тогда все правильно, если на highways, тогде не очень. Имхо.
[00:23:43] <Mezonin_> хотя, у Гугла акцент тоже на natural=*
[00:24:02] <Maks|2ssd> у гугла есть natural?
[00:24:12] <Maks|2ssd> никода не видел
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[01:45:34] <shurik> AMDmi3: можешь сделать мне дамп базы simple_local?
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[02:38:43] <AMDmi3> shurik: мм, не знаю. давай завтра
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[08:34:47] <ErshKUS[work]> только у меня не работает сервер смещений?
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[13:00:31] <andrewsh> ниндзя-кот:
http://nn.by/image-cache/cb0d2c87efd70346b30f44364095020f_w700_h467_q95.jpg
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[13:00:42] <andrewsh> и ещё один:
http://nn.by/image-cache/ef519d37b9a6fb578ad0f70ca1149403_w700_h700_q95.jpg
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[15:20:36] <shurik[work]> AMDmi3: а сейчас можешь сдампить?
[15:21:03] <AMDmi3> shurik[work]: давай после 5
[15:21:08] <shurik[work]> угу
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[16:50:59] <AMDmi3> так. shurik[work] что за база, говоришь?
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[16:53:42] <shurik[work]> AMDmi3: simple_local
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[17:12:26] <AMDmi3> shurik[work]: и куда тебе его потом? там уже 4G в gzip с -1
[17:12:44] <shurik[work]> можешь там же положить где я взять смогу
[17:12:51] <AMDmi3> на db0?
[17:12:55] <shurik[work]> да
[17:13:17] <AMDmi3> какой у тебя там логин?
[17:13:52] <AMDmi3> а, нашёл
[17:14:30] <AMDmi3> shurik[work]: в обшем /spool/tmp/simple_local.sql.gz - грохни его когда не нужен будет, только пока он ещё льётся
[17:14:59] <shurik[work]> спасибо
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[17:15:41] <AMDmi3> не за что
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[17:47:17] <shurik[work]> "это только в OSM возможно, что админы Яндекса админят рамблеровские сервера )" (c)
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[17:56:05] <Mixaill> ух ты, в/на Украине весело,
http://habrahabr.ru/post/183088/
[18:03:05] <AMDmi3> а я не админ :)
[18:12:29] <CutterRus> )))
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[18:40:14] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: ping
[18:42:57] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: pong
[18:43:25] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: а ты настраивал новый pg на боевой режим?
[18:43:40] <AMDmi3> не знаю, а что в это входит?
[18:45:08] <ErshKUS> ну там смонтировать без таймов (гда база валяется), возможно конфиг подправить под оперативку и пр.
[18:45:19] <ErshKUS> (я тоже не сильно в этом пока еще)
[18:45:28] <ErshKUS> но хочу новый pg
[18:46:07] <AMDmi3> фс без таймсов и даже пока без sync
[18:46:16] <AMDmi3> под память настраивать я не умею вообще никак
[18:47:56] <AMDmi3> shurik[work]: сдампилось, если что
[18:48:03] <shurik[work]> ага я видел
[18:48:18] <shurik[work]> у меня как раз оно слилось
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[19:33:35] <ErshKUS> shurik[work]: AMDmi3: c simple_local закончили?
[19:33:42] <AMDmi3> да
[19:33:59] <ErshKUS> shurik[work]: кстати, там осм данные новее чем поисковые таблицы
[19:36:44] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: кстати, а может так и оставить, ну или создать еще одно tablespace и разместить на ненадежной но быстрой фс, например simple_local полностью строится на дампе осм, и восстановить при сбое, дело 1-2 суток генерации
[19:37:21] <AMDmi3> мне кажется лучше это сделать средствами pg
[19:37:31] <AMDmi3> без sync всё развалится нафиг
[19:37:47] <AMDmi3> причём возможно это не будет замечено
[19:46:22] <andrewsh> http://www.pitt.edu/~votruba/qsonhist/housenumbersslovakia.html
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[20:22:33] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: fsync в пг, как понял работает на весь, поэтому непойдет
[20:23:01] <AMDmi3> любая БД без fsync не работает
[20:25:08] <shurik[work]> эээ... в pg есть опция fsync=off это что?
[20:25:24] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: не, я о том что в pg есть параметр fsync = off/on
[20:25:36] <AMDmi3> наверное то же самое что fsync=off на фс
[20:25:44] <ErshKUS> но она на весь pg будет действовать
[20:26:25] <ErshKUS> если с параметром pg то с данными будет ок, до сбоя по питанию
[20:26:55] <AMDmi3> разумеется, до сбоя
[20:27:16] <ErshKUS> но учитывая что в некоторых базах нет новых данных - всё генерится на основе дампа, то и терять нечего
[20:27:37] <ErshKUS> а скорости, как горорят, прибавляет неплохо
[20:27:43] <ErshKUS> сам не юзал
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[20:28:07] <shurik[work]> я для загрузки планеты его сделал, по совету из презентации фредерика
[20:28:10] <AMDmi3> пересоздавать таблицу при сбое или вылавливать битые данные как-то неохота
[20:28:31] <AMDmi3> я думаю там можно просто какие-нибудь буфферы и страницы выкрутить вверх на пару порядков
[20:28:33] <shurik[work]> хотя на хорошем железе загрузка планеты - это сутки
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[21:04:12] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: а где новый пг живет?
[21:04:56] <AMDmi3> /usr/jails/newpostgres
[21:05:25] <AMDmi3> (таблицы в spool/newpgsql)
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[21:25:41] <AMDmi3> Zverik: напиши про
https://github.com/blog/1528-there-s-a-map-for-that
[21:26:07] <AMDmi3> в двух словах, github теперь умеет визуализировать .geojson файлы из репозиториев
[21:26:39] <AMDmi3> при этом используется lefalet и OSM данные с кастомным MapBox'овским стилем
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[21:27:08] <AMDmi3> кажется мне, теперь можно держать свои маршруты в git'е :)
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[21:55:37] <AMDmi3> ого, они ещё и 3D научились рендерить
[22:02:03] <Mixaill> ого, а можно ссылку на пример?
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[22:03:13] <AMDmi3> https://github.com/lorennorman/octocat-3d/blob/master/stl/octocat_head.stl
[22:04:35] <AMDmi3> странно, на моём старом рабочем firefox'е 3D работает, а карты нет
[22:06:28] <Mixaill> в новом то же самое
[22:07:04] <Mixaill> что интересно, в Opera-на-Presto карты работают
[22:10:22] <AMDmi3> хм, если открыть содержимое iframe с картой в отдельной вкладке, то работает
[22:11:07] <AMDmi3> какая-то штука с безопасностью наверное, там поддомен другой
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[23:28:57] <shurik> интересно кто-то в BIA разлиновал Казахстан...
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[23:44:16] <SergeyA> shurik: Сканирование Тянь-Шань я запускал по просьбе на форуме -
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=335868#p335868
[23:46:57] <shurik> там просто аккуратные диагональные линии под разным углом
[23:47:49] <SergeyA> А, это кто-то другой игрался. :)
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