#osm-ru | Logs for 2013-02-08

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[00:57:54] <putnik> А Опера вылечила свою нелюбовь к &thinsp;?
[00:58:36] <putnik> Помнится, когда пару лет назад вставили его в интерфейс Википедии, багрепорты от оперофилов пачками шли.
[01:04:15] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> putnik: это когда он квадратом рендерится?
[01:13:34] <putnik> Ага.
[01:16:48] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> putnik: там вроде проблема специфичная для Windows XP. Поэтому никогда не видел. Да и вроде исправили.
[01:20:06] <putnik> Mixai[l|ll|lll], круто. Наконец-то хоть что-то про это узнал.
[01:20:24] <putnik> Значит можно будет продвигать тонкую шпацию в массы.
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[01:20:44] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> putnik: по крайней мере вот прямо сейчас в Windows 8 не наблюдаю.
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[01:57:01] <andrewsh> Zverik: ты вот специалист
[01:57:11] <andrewsh> почему японская латиница такая корявая?
[01:57:22] <andrewsh> например, вот тут пишут слово «cute»
[01:57:30] <andrewsh> я без содрогания смотреть на это не могу
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[03:58:48] <Mezonin> интересно может быть поинт long = 0.0 & lat = 0.0
[04:03:01] <Mezonin> где-то утонула под Ганой в Атлантическом Окене эта точка
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[09:10:02] <Zverik> andrewsh: все иероглифы фиксированной ширины, и японская латиница следует этому тренду
[09:10:14] <Zverik> (выглядит дико, не спорю :)
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[09:28:39] <andrewsh> ну тренд-трендом, но ведь ещё и сами буквы ужасные
[09:28:44] <andrewsh> т.е. контуры
[09:29:01] <andrewsh> причём во всех без исключения шрифтах
[09:38:39] <Zverik> для японцев контуры привычнее, обычные буквы для них слишком жырно выглядят
[09:38:55] <Zverik> сравнивай не с западными алфавитами, а с каной
[09:40:22] <andrewsh> ну я ж не про жырноту
[09:48:24] <Zverik> это всё взаимосвязано
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[10:26:19] <Zverik> что за фигня. Статистика от altogetherlost лежит, сервер гис-лаба лежит.
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[10:46:45] <dfdfdadfd> Может ли кто-нибудь помочь по поводу редактирования карт?
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[10:56:52] <Maks|nuvi> насколько я помню, Лёша сюда не заходит?
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[11:41:46] <Maks|nuvi> только сейчас обратил внимание, гармин поворачивает номера домов вдоль улиц
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[11:44:55] <Maks|nuvi> а вообще, Краснодарский край по прежнему одна большая записная книжка
[11:45:11] <Maks|nuvi> куча пометок прямо в name
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[12:20:38] <gryphon> это только у меня тайлы на осм.орг адски медленно грузятся или там беда какая?
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[12:28:29] <Zverik> gryphon: примерно у всех
[12:28:46] <Zverik> причина пока не ясна. Munin лежит уже третий день
[12:29:23] <gryphon> это они как-то зря....
[12:34:29] <Zverik> как я понимаю, у Firefishy сейчас на работе завал, поэтому он админит осм только на выходных
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[16:00:42] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: worker1 /var: write failed, filesystem is full
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[16:03:34] <putnik> Завтра ещё будут дампы, или лучше не рисковать?
[16:06:33] <glebius> ErshKUS[work]: я даже залогиниться не могу
[16:06:38] <glebius> ErshKUS[work]: у тебя шел открыт?
[16:06:44] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: lf
[16:06:46] <ErshKUS[work]> да
[16:07:10] <glebius> посмотри du -sh /var/*
[16:07:35] <glebius> не удивлюсь, если это кто-то из вас подъел и сам может удалить :)
[16:08:36] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: походу, была консоль
[16:09:06] <glebius> не понял
[16:09:11] <ErshKUS[work]> повисла
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[16:10:06] <glebius> ErshKUS[work]: это ты мне звонил?
[16:10:23] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: консоль не работает. Нет
[16:10:31] <ErshKUS[work]> не звонил
[16:19:34] <glebius> ErshKUS[work]: попросил Костю посмотреть
[16:19:43] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: спасибо
[16:20:47] <glebius> пока рано :)
[16:24:11] <glebius> надо бы вам сообщить костин jabber
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[17:30:28] <Larry0ua> вопрос по лыжным спускам. с одной стороны в JOSM piste:type=* рисует по линии стрелки, с другой - sport=skiing просит полигон. кто прав или какой-то из тегов не нужен?
[17:36:24] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: блин, теперь и сайт перестал работать
[17:36:38] <glebius> операторы что-то не напрягаются
[17:36:45] <glebius> им давно написано reset нажать
[17:37:39] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: интересно а в freebsd можно ли выставить какие нибудь ограничения, чтоб не было забивания памяти
[17:37:50] <glebius> можно
[17:38:44] <glebius> только сейчас там в чём-то другом дела
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[18:57:28] <putnik> ErshKUS, а на osm.org.ru большой процент народа с IE?
[19:01:31] <ErshKUS> putnik: MSIE - 6,4%
[19:07:13] <Komzpa> ErshKUS: а IE<9?
[19:07:31] <Komzpa> (и вообще без канваса)
[19:11:36] <ErshKUS> Komzpa: я хз какие без канваса :) в статистике нет MSIE 9.0 - 3,3% MSIE 8.0 - 2,6% MSIE 10.0 - 0,4% MSIE 7.0 - 0,1% MSIE 6.0 - 0,1%
[19:12:35] <ErshKUS> Komzpa: в топе последние версии браузеров
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[19:13:55] <ErshKUS> но MSIE < 9 плохо работает на осмъ, поэтому статистика не очень
[19:14:54] <putnik> ErshKUS, хочешь слой 3d-домиков, который не будет работать в IE? =)
[19:15:12] <putnik> Точнее в IE<10, но это почти одно и то же.
[19:17:13] <ErshKUS> putnik: в любом случае лучше чем ничего :)
[19:17:57] <putnik> Кстати, про «ничего». Komzpa, у тебя домики совсем того?
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[19:18:13] <putnik> Обновляться больше не будут?
[19:19:13] <Komzpa> putnik: а почему ie<10?
[19:19:25] <Komzpa> putnik: я ничего не обещаю :3
[19:19:43] <putnik> Komzpa, там нет поддержки CORS.
[19:20:09] <putnik> Точнее есть, но она вида «мы пойдём своим путём».
[19:20:31] <putnik> Прикрутить можно, но очень не хочется.
[19:20:31] <Komzpa> а зачем CORS, не пойдёт jsonp?
[19:21:19] <putnik> Пойдёт, но тоже надо переписывать код.
[19:21:58] <putnik> Я бы даже занялся, но меня ещё по двум проектам постоянно пинают, что пора бы уже сделать.
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[20:15:53] <ErshKUS> glebius: тут?
[20:18:47] <Zverik> loir: вопрос из эммауса: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=311322#p311322
[20:19:35] <loir> так то вопрос про кадастр же
[20:19:42] <loir> а не про эммаус
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[20:20:13] <loir> а, понял
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[20:36:57] <glebius> ErshKUS: немного тут
[20:37:35] <ErshKUS> в общем нашел в чем проблема, но хз как чинить
[20:37:53] <ErshKUS> в env проблема
[20:38:01] <ErshKUS> он питон не находит
[20:39:39] <glebius> ErshKUS: в шебанге?
[20:40:10] <ErshKUS> glebius: ?
[20:40:44] <ErshKUS> glebius: вот это не идет #!/usr/bin/env python
[20:40:45] <glebius> в #!/usr/bin/env python
[20:40:56] <glebius> а где эти скрипты?
[20:41:15] <ErshKUS> в www/ru/api
[20:41:33] <ErshKUS> usr/...
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[20:43:45] <glebius> ErshKUS: что то не видно там env
[20:43:53] <glebius> ErshKUS: там /usr/local/bin/python напрямую
[20:44:01] <ErshKUS> я уже заменил
[20:44:04] <glebius> аа
[20:44:06] <ErshKUS> чтоб сайт работал
[20:44:07] <glebius> и помогло?
[20:44:14] <ErshKUS> да
[20:44:16] <glebius> странно
[20:44:22] <glebius> ладно, ща нет времени разбираться
[20:44:29] <glebius> сорри
[20:44:36] <ErshKUS> glebius: в бете глянь
[20:44:50] <ErshKUS> т.е. там осталось как было
[20:44:59] <ErshKUS> www/rubeta/api/
[20:45:08] <glebius> в понедельник постараюсь
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[22:09:45] <andrewsh> Zverik: > пропали?
[22:09:47] <andrewsh> с чего вдруг?
[22:09:53] <andrewsh> сдох сервер?
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