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[04:13:13] <putnik> Блин, хочу atm=24/7 или atm:opening_hours=24/7.
[04:13:38] <putnik> Смысл ставить отдельную точку только ради того, чтобы пометить круглосуточность.
[04:17:15] <andrewsh> зачем точку?
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[05:49:26] <putnik> andrewsh, а как иначе? POI для банка со своими opening_hours и POI для банкомата.
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[12:54:59] <Komzpa> рамблеркарты закрывают?
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[13:23:24] <Zverik> великолепно обновил флэш, теперь показывает десять роликов и вылетает с концами
[13:23:43] <Zverik> Komzpa: ничего не знаю, но вполне могут, это ж афиша
[13:27:40] <glebius> Komzpa: откуда дровишки?
[13:27:57] <glebius> Zverik: ты, я вижу, уже не восхищён афишей? :)
[13:28:19] <Zverik> glebius: ну я вижу общую тенденцию
[13:29:21] <glebius> ага
[13:29:21] <Komzpa> glebius:
http://roem.ru/2013/02/01/ramblershutsdown62179/
[13:31:42] <glebius> сука как я их всех ненавижу
[13:32:30] <glebius> ёбаные хипстеры
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[13:33:23] <Zverik> glebius: полагаю, весь картографический отдел в итоге уйдёт работать в яндекс
[13:35:15] <glebius> там отдела то по пальцам одной руки пересчитать можно
[13:35:32] <glebius> Красуля кстати уже работал в Яндексе, но не в картах
[13:36:17] <glebius> если этот вброс на roem правда, то боюсь надо готовиться к эвакуации Рамблер-ОСМ :(
[13:37:09] <glebius> складывается ситуация, когда пусть даже "договор" и в силе, но в Рамблере не остаётся ни одного человека, кто участвовал в принятии этого решения, и кто вообще понимает что такое OSM
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[13:38:02] <glebius> в принципе за судьбу серверов волноваться не стоит, они нормально числятся в БД, по ним есть контактные лица и всё такое, на ровном месте их не выключат
[13:38:39] <glebius> но через пару лет какой-нибудь внутренний аудит запросто может предложить поэкономить элетричество и попросить нас до свидания
[13:38:59] <Zverik> а сколько теоретически может стоит поддержка, например, двух серверов, подобных worker1+db0, в независимом датацентре своими силами?
[13:39:16] <Zverik> (это на случай, если лавочка прикроется, но мы дорастём до пожертвований)
[13:39:30] <glebius> db0 это 2U, все worker-ы - 1U
[13:39:41] <glebius> то есть всего получается 5U
[13:39:47] <glebius> смотри прайсы :)
[13:40:26] <glebius> лучше всё таки искать новый бесплатный дом, чем ориентироваться на пожертвования
[13:41:02] <glebius> жаль, что у яндекса есть НЯК, получается спонсирование OSM это спонсирование конкурента
[13:41:39] <glebius> вообще прямо сейчас рано бить тревогу, но задуматься стоит
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[13:46:49] <CGI684> Всем здравия!
[13:48:53] <Zverik> в сад
[13:49:29] <CGI684> Ребята, подскажите пож. Что происходит с картой Russia-KDA на navitel.osm.rambler.ru ? Последние пол года карта поломалась. В Навителе в Поиск по нескольку городов станиц и т.д.
[13:50:41] <CGI684> Пропали многие здания, адреса. Маршруты прокладывает космические. Что происходит?
[13:50:56] <Zverik> CGI684: что ответили в профильной теме
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5328 ?
[13:52:37] <CGI684> Я туда не могу попасть (( зарегился на osm, как и было предложено. В osm вхожу, но в форум нет. Пробовал и со страницы osm все равно пишет ошибку и предлагает зарегиться для начала на osm (((
[13:54:23] <Zverik> логин-пароль на русском, что ли?
[13:56:00] <CGI684> О_О да ну Вы что?
[13:56:21] <CGI684> не маленький уже ;)
[13:57:25] <Zverik> у меня одно время была проблема из-за пользователя с теми же буквами, но в другом регистре
[13:59:37] <CGI684> ок! пробую
[14:04:20] <CGI684> Authentication failed. Please check if login works on www.openstreetmap.org. If you can't login there, then there's no point in trying here....
[14:04:30] <CGI684> rfr b dctulf
[14:04:44] <CGI684> ой! как и всегда
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[15:16:59] <Zverik> о, сканэкс попользовал осм:
http://www.gisa.ru/92974.html
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[16:33:21] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: на бете нет части иконок; например, newspaper и peak
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[16:33:48] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: угу
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[18:07:50] <apca> привет всем
[18:08:26] <apca> помогите кто нибудь с островом Ольхон в оз. Байкал
[18:08:55] <AMDmi3> что с ним опять?
[18:09:05] <apca> он так и не всплывает
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[18:09:36] <AMDmi3> http://www.openstreetmap.ru/#layer=M&zoom=10&lat=53.1735&lon=107.538 вроде же всё нормально
[18:10:23] <apca> а щас пользователь Tshikey, на релэйшен Острова навешал natural=grassland и кучу иннеров в него напихал
[18:11:07] <AMDmi3> острова или отдельный создал?
[18:11:15] <apca> ну так он типа всплыл, потомучто natural=grassland повесили, но то что там куча иннеров в релэшне острова, эт же не правильно
[18:11:29] <apca> нет, не отдельный, а прям на остров навешал
[18:11:34] <AMDmi3> inner'ы должны быть только в grassland
[18:12:14] <AMDmi3> сча посмотрим
[18:19:01] <AMDmi3> разделил grassland и остров
[18:19:38] <AMDmi3> а насчёт утопания - надо подождать пока coastline обновятся. сейчас там вообще ничего не понятно, учитывая что coastline с озера убрали
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[18:26:18] <AMDmi3> надо там ещё лес в один мультиполигон досклеить
[18:27:06] <apca> AMDmi3 Так получается coastline там теперь и не будет? а не возникнет никаких проблем, которые тут обсуждались
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=6583 ?
[18:27:38] <AMDmi3> не знаю
[18:27:49] <AMDmi3> по хорошему, проблемы - проблемы кривых конверторов
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[21:55:27] <Scondo_> Второй вечер ирочка переполненна аж не пускает...
[22:02:20] <Scondo_> Вопрос: можно с небольшими усилиями отрендерить кусочек карты в Cyclemap?
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[23:56:52] <mamyashev> glebius, алоха, глянь почту
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[23:58:28] <AMDmi3> говорят у вас в Рамблере кучу сервисов закрывают?