#osm-ru | Logs for 2013-01-30

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[00:01:41] <ErshKUS> да что такое... уже столько перебрал. Ну нафига пихать '' , нельзя что ли null
[00:05:17] <ErshKUS> тьфу tags @> ('')::hstore
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[00:31:08] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: вот еще по каталогу http://osmru.reformal.ru/proj/?ia=391667
[00:31:39] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: да, я как рас собирался посмотреть оно всё-таки leisure или amenity, потому что по тэгам их поровну
[00:32:02] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: ну ок, тогда я спать
[00:32:05] <AMDmi3> ErshKUS: можешь обновить на бете каталог и osm.ru?
[00:32:31] <ErshKUS> AMDmi3: давай завтра, ок?
[00:32:32] <AMDmi3> я добавил description, во-первых, как бы не накосячить, во-вторых, хочу посмотреть что получилось
[00:32:40] <AMDmi3> ну ok, давай завтра
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[08:58:42] <|newbie|> по restrictions вопрос. Если я правильно понял, только один случай есть, где from = to, когда restriction = no_u_turn
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[08:59:00] <iav> кажися
[09:00:44] <Mezonin> просто в москве очень много(480) запретов при from = to, где restriction = no left turn
[09:00:56] <Mezonin> это как-то странно.
[09:22:42] <iav> это просто неправильно
[09:22:46] <iav> ересь!
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[16:44:12] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> Ого, Шпаньков из Opera уходит.
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[20:03:17] <putnik> Все уже видели http://csstardis.co.uk/? =)
[20:04:49] <andrewsh> bigger on the inside?
[20:06:22] <andrewsh> шрифты пичалька
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[21:34:24] <Scondo> Говорили, что где-то на форуме есть тема про БД на рамблере - что там крутится у кого... не могу найти...
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[22:11:17] <old_Bibigon> на вики есть, хз какой свежести
[22:11:45] <old_Bibigon> ErshKUS, тыц? ^^
[22:17:42] <Zverik> Scondo: в вики же
[22:17:47] <Zverik> фш вики рамблер
[22:17:54] <Zverik> а, блин, он же издох
[22:18:02] <Scondo> Zverik: нашел уже... ничего интересного, но нашел...
[22:19:24] <Scondo> Один симпл и один апи... раельной геометрией никто не пользуется?
[22:19:57] <Zverik> Scondo: если туда случайно поставить постгис, сразу все начнут тайлы делать, а это пока, если не ошибаюсь, нежелательно
[22:21:01] <Scondo> Zverik: Ну не знаю... по-моему это вопрос допуска проектов, а не наличия БД.
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[22:39:32] <ErshKUS> Scondo: '...раельной геометрией никто не пользуется?' а что за реальная? апи уже давно отключена, не юзают. А симпл застопарилась на сентябре. Сейчас идет миграция на 9.2, хз как идет. Я так понимаю там будет поднята симпл, но не ясно нужна ли она кому н
[22:39:32] <ErshKUS> ибудь
[22:40:46] <Scondo> Понятно... просто как каждый джанговец должен написать свой шаблоонизатор, так каждый осмер должен написать свой импортер :) Вот я хотел посмотреть кому что надо...
[22:42:01] <ErshKUS> Scondo: да хотели порядок навести, думаю даже хотят, но это пока медленно идет
[22:42:55] <ErshKUS> Scondo: мне оказалось действенее поднять свою базу, ибо вырезать из мира Россию кушало дофига времени
[22:43:10] <Scondo> Ну в общем попробую посочинять, а там посмотрим..
[22:44:15] <ErshKUS> Scondo: а что ты собрался сочинять, свою схему для апи? для симпл то и сочинять нечего, бери и грузи :)
[22:44:46] <ErshKUS> Scondo: но это так, просто интересно
[22:44:52] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Вот мне нужна схема не менее "осмовская" чем снапшот и не менее "геометрическая" чем osm2pgsql
[22:46:09] <Scondo> Ну ладноЮ из напшота точки без тегов мне не нужны. Но нужна вся связь между релейшнами, веями и нодами. чего нет в osm2pgsql. (точнеее есть, но через слим и очень грустняво)
[22:46:55] <ErshKUS> тебе для этого, забыл... заме кладра ?
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[22:47:17] <Hind> У всех глагне говорит HTTP Error 500?
[22:47:23] <Hind> Application error
[22:47:52] <Scondo> Hind: нет, вроде работает
[22:48:04] <ErshKUS> Hind: работает
[22:48:17] <Hind> а если Ctrl+F5?
[22:48:23] <Hind> очистив кэш, проще говоря
[22:48:40] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Там я пока выкрутился. Но пока и некрасиво. А есть и еще задумки.
[22:48:40] <Scondo> Плюс у меня тупо osm2pgsql на триггерах виснет. х.з. почему.
[22:49:30] <ErshKUS> Hind: работает
[22:49:52] <ErshKUS> Scondo: триггера pg?
[22:50:00] <Scondo> ErshKUS: ухху.
[22:50:22] <ErshKUS> а на малых данных виснит
[22:50:24] <ErshKUS> ?
[22:50:26] <Scondo> Кстати, про osm.org.ru. Win8+ chrome - не скроллится мышкой (пальцем скроллится и зумится).
[22:51:21] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Не проверял как-то даже. Я как уперся в триггера, потыкал-потыкал, а потом прикинул, что уже неплохо оптимизировал основной скрипт и махнул рукой.
[22:51:56] <ErshKUS> Scondo: со скролом разобратся нужен спец, я хз
[22:52:14] <Scondo> В общем когда запись одну удаляю - все отрабатывает. А при импорте - повисает, болтается постгревый процесс со статусом DELETE waiting
[22:52:24] <ErshKUS> Scondo: у тебя мог уперется в нехватку памяти, пошел своп и....
[22:53:17] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Вообще не похоже. Потому что то же самое без триггеров - на ура. При том что триггера только на удаление.
[22:53:29] <ErshKUS> Scondo: попробуй через анализ погонять
[22:53:52] <ErshKUS> ну а как ты удаляешь? по условию есть индексы?
[22:53:52] <Scondo> Какой?
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[22:54:41] <Scondo> могут быть... ща..
[22:55:39] <Scondo> да, есть...
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[22:56:33] <ErshKUS> Scondo: как называется то классификатор, а то ступор
[22:56:40] <Scondo> ФИАС :)
[22:56:46] <ErshKUS> :)
[22:57:45] <iav_work> откуда берут карты высот?
[22:58:04] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> Куда этот Felis Pimeja убежал. Для того, чтобы абузить то дело нужно являться "владельцем авторских прав или лицом, имеющим право действовать от имени владельца"
[22:58:05] <Scondo> iav_work: SRTM как правило.
[22:58:42] <iav_work> а это где именно?
[22:58:47] <iav_work> мне для латвии
[22:59:17] <Scondo> iav_work: e.g. http://gis-lab.info/qa/srtm.html
[22:59:59] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> А еще там нужна ЭЦП :D
[23:01:18] <ErshKUS> Scondo: а анализ я про EXPLAIN
[23:01:43] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Что мне эксплейн если одиночное удаление рпоходит?
[23:03:35] <ErshKUS> Scondo: ну если у тебя Seq Scan ?
[23:03:56] <iav_work> и перестроение тонны индексов
[23:03:57] <ErshKUS> вот и повисание, хотя оно конечно не всегда долго
[23:04:05] <iav_work> нене, пусть объяснится
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[23:04:33] <Scondo> Нет, проблема именно в дедлоке, нагрузка на проц и хдд - 0. вот в чем проблема.
[23:05:18] <Scondo> если бы он считал и висел - я бы ждал пока не досчитает...
[23:05:20] <ErshKUS> Scondo: ты руками такое удаление пробовал делать?
[23:05:33] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Да, говорю же - проходит.
[23:06:11] <ErshKUS> Scondo: а самозацикливания нет?
[23:06:44] <iav_work> с триггерами зациклить как здрасте
[23:07:09] <Scondo> ErshKUS: у триггеров нет. Только если двойное удаление, но от этого не должен.
[23:07:54] <ErshKUS> Scondo: ищи гдето там, ибо тригер тупо выполняет запрос
[23:08:01] <Scondo> То есть каждый триггер вызывает удаление либо в той же таблице, либо в следующей. Ничег кроме удаления нет.
[23:08:06] <ErshKUS> и если он так быстро
[23:08:16] <ErshKUS> то значит что то не то удаляет
[23:08:19] <Scondo> Меня собсно смущает, что одиночный выполняется.
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[23:09:04] <ErshKUS> посмотри может в логах pg, хотя вроде сначало нужно включить, чтоб pg логировал все sql запросы
[23:10:08] <Scondo> ErshKUS: А он запросы триггеров будет логировать при этом?
[23:11:33] <ErshKUS> должен, я такое не делал
[23:12:12] <Scondo> Потому что я запросами вытащил текущий исполняемый, но без запросов от триггеров...
[23:12:50] <ErshKUS> но с триггерами никогда н было проблем, а вот если не доглядишь и один пинает другого а тот его, вот тут висло
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[23:16:21] <Scondo> ErshKUS: Ну я посмотрю еще. Или если найдешь косяк - пиши https://github.com/Scondo/fiosm/blob/master/fiosm/fias_search.py#L36
[23:16:21] <Scondo> Это мио превые триггеры, так что мог налажать...
[23:17:04] <ErshKUS> Scondo: хочется попробывать обработать фиас по моей адресной таблице, но времени нет :(
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[23:23:10] <ErshKUS> Scondo: я так понял тут зацикливание on_del_place
[23:24:18] <ErshKUS> Scondo: https://github.com/Scondo/fiosm/blob/master/fiosm/fias_search.py#L94
[23:24:24] <ErshKUS> я спать
[23:26:18] <Scondo> ErshKUS: при удалении улиц тоже вроде вешался...
[23:26:44] <Scondo> ErshKUS: ладно, не горит. я сам еле живой..
[23:27:25] <ErshKUS> Scondo: ну может триггер не сам себя, а цепочка
[23:33:35] <shurik> Scondo: я считаю нужен постпроцессор к simple который будет строить в отдельной таблице мультиполигоны в том же формате, чтобы с помощью union объединять... и в идеале надо уметь их обновлять из .osc
[23:34:02] <shurik> всё это нужно далеко не только для рендерера
[23:34:28] <Scondo> shurik: ага, я думал в том же направлении. Но почему в отдельной таблице? Что бы не рядом с нодами/веями/полигонами?
[23:34:56] <shurik> потому что их мейнтейнит osmosis
[23:35:15] <shurik> у каждого должна быть своя зона ответственности
[23:36:31] <ErshKUS> shurik: а я как то уже привык в FROM указывать relations,relation_members,ways :)
[23:37:39] <shurik> ну это слабо помогает если например нужно проверять попадание внутрь административной границы
[23:38:00] <ErshKUS> shurik: ну тогда + 1 left join
[23:38:32] <ErshKUS> ну конечно это не есть удобно
[23:39:50] <ErshKUS> прикольно, osmosis не может мержить в исходную таблицу, точнее мержит, но данные первого pdf теряется :(
[23:39:56] <Scondo> shurik: В общем все логично. Только осмосис несколько пугает. И да, он не умеет o5m.
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[23:48:44] <Scondo> А еще вопрос по pgsnapshot|pgsimple.... нахрена ему TABLE way_nodes , если есть nodes bigint[] ?