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[00:00:13] <Zverik_> для истории, в 2009 году ежедневно осм правили около 1500 пользователей (загружаю всю историю с 2005 года в свой очередной проект)
[00:00:46] <Zverik_> сейчас, если верить статистике altogetherlost, в день около 2500 человек
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[00:24:50] <vvoovv> Zverik_: эта статистика для всего мира?
[00:31:36] <Zverik_> vvoovv: да
[00:33:02] <vvoovv> Zverik_: интересно посмотреть статистику по дням недели, по месяцам
[00:37:01] <Zverik_> http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/ наверное
[00:37:17] <Zverik_> меня эта статистика не интересует, поэтому не считаю
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[10:00:34] <psha[work]> andrewsh: я разочарован в хг... букмарки ни разу не бранчи, убогая работа с ремотами :(
[10:09:58] <az09|and> это канал об аниме! не надо тролить
[10:10:01] <az09|and> :3
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[10:43:23] <iav> бранчи бранчи
[10:43:35] <iav> а букмарки - букмарки
[10:44:15] <iav> зато бранчи хранят бранчевую историю и после слияния
[10:44:27] <iav> а не перемешиваютсяс прочими
[10:45:07] <psha[work]> та наю я
[10:45:32] <iav> зато команды короткие и логичные
[10:45:56] <iav> и поведение предсказуемое
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[10:49:39] <andrewsh> psha[work]: троллоло
[10:53:17] <psha[work]> andrewsh: да нифига не трололо
[10:53:53] <andrewsh> psha[work]: да троллоло
[10:54:08] <andrewsh> даже не смешное, а весьма и весьма убогое :)
[10:54:11] <psha[work]> там можно посмотреть что вообще есть во всех репах ремотных?
[10:54:24] <psha[work]> типа git remote update
[10:54:33] <psha[work]> руками перебирать как-то убого получается
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[15:45:19] <Zverik_w> «одна итажа» (копаюсь в клубе няк)
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[18:29:44] <andrewsh> котэ
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227746_457329850988368_249257936_n.jpg
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[18:50:22] <Zverik_w> башня в Ньюкасле:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/355022189
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[18:57:20] <Zverik_w> обратите внимания на разницу: первый пост правит Hind
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=19741 и Felis
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=19725
[18:57:41] <Zverik_w> Hind: добавь в список GaM-а
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[19:31:40] <amak> надо себе тоже котоаватарку замутить :)
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[20:00:34] <putnik> Нашёл в валидаторе несуществующий индекс =) На сайте Почты России тоже находится.
[20:02:04] <putnik> Заодно перекочевал оттуда на все сайты с индексами.
[20:20:35] <Zverik_w> не хотел писать про новый лифлет, но обнаружил, что анонсировал все четыре предыдущие версии.
[20:22:35] <andrewsh> напиши про новый ЩД лучше
[20:22:40] <andrewsh> OL*
[20:23:13] <Zverik_w> andrewsh: там ничего интересного не происходит, все программируют
[20:23:45] <Zverik_w> последняя запись в блоге — от ноября, где они рассказывают, что делают новую версию, потому что вышел лифлет и показал, какое у них убогое апи
[20:25:36] <ErshKUS> :)
[20:26:27] <ErshKUS> перехот осморг с OL наверно серьезно им настроение подпортил
[20:29:48] <Zverik_w> да вообще все бегут, OL остался только в нише тяжёлых веб-гис
[20:30:16] <Zverik_w> ну и тех, кому лениво изучать лишнюю библиотеку, когда в OL всё внутри, вроде меня
[20:30:30] <andrewsh> Zverik_w: у кого убогое? у лифлета?
[20:30:36] <andrewsh> пожалуй, соглашусь :)
[20:30:54] <ErshKUS> OL
[20:31:06] <andrewsh> смешно право же
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[20:31:13] <Zverik_w> я лишь транслирую содержание статьи, по мне, все плохие
[20:31:25] <andrewsh> сравнивать нормальное апи с недоделанным велосипедом лифлета
[20:31:39] <andrewsh> который, к тому же, изначально был содран с гугльмапсов
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[20:32:08] <Komzpa> юзерфрендлинесс апи лифлета на порядки больше апи опенлеерса
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[20:34:10] <andrewsh> ...пока не столкнёшься с костылями и граблями, которые объезжать сложнее, чем вспомнить, как это делается в ОЛ
[20:34:45] <andrewsh> в OL долго вникать, да, потому как его малость иначе программировать
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[20:53:46] <Mixaill> как там говорят?
[20:53:46] <Mixaill> Leaflet 0.5 != Leaflet
[20:54:38] <andrewsh> :)
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[20:58:26] <andrewsh> «Ржавея и батарея, он крокодил по улице»
[21:02:01] <vvoovv> почему клаудмейд отказался от лифлета?
[21:02:36] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> 14.01 Доступен выпуск Java SE 7 Update 11 с устранением критических уязвимостей
[21:02:36] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> 17.01 Для Java подготовлен эксплоит, базирующийся на новой 0day-уязвимости
[21:02:36] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> =\
[21:02:41] <andrewsh> слишком много крокодил, вот почему
[21:02:46] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> vvoovv: у них там что-то своё есть
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[21:03:04] <andrewsh> vvoovv: хм, отказался? когда?
[21:03:17] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> andrewsh: а вот в штосме написали
[21:03:21] <andrewsh> когда?
[21:03:22] <andrewsh> ща?
[21:03:31] <vvoovv> andrewsh: читайте прессу
[21:03:54] <andrewsh> CloudMade recorded a loss for 2008 of £1,426,585,[4] with a loss for 2009 of £2,149,259,[5] and a profit of £93,338 for 2010.
[21:03:57] <andrewsh> вот почему
[21:04:46] <vvoovv> положительная динамика
[21:05:20] <andrewsh> ну вот смотри, отказазались — и сразу динамика :)
[21:05:45] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> какая же зарплата у mourner была =)
[21:06:05] <vvoovv> отказались щас, а не в 2009
[21:06:36] <andrewsh> ну какая разница
[21:06:42] <andrewsh> зачем ты мне ломаешь теорию :)
[21:06:53] <andrewsh> :þ
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[21:15:27] <vvoovv> эх, не запрстишь больше баг про виагру:
http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/web-maps-api/issues
[21:16:59] <vvoovv> Zverik Zverik_w а с чего ты взял что клоудмейд отказался от лифлета?
[21:17:32] <Zverik_w> vvoovv: где я такое писал?
[21:18:06] <Zverik_w> всё наоборот, лифлет отказался от клаудмейда
[21:18:31] <vvoovv> количество упоминаний CloudMade на главной за последний месяц снизилось с шести до одного, утверждающего, что с прошлого года организация не имеет отношения к библиотеке
[21:18:34] <Zverik_w> раньше у него на главной висел заголовок «Leaflet by CloudMade», теперь нет
[21:18:47] <Zverik_w> vvoovv: прочитай ещё раз, что ли
[21:18:56] <vvoovv> а теперь CloudMade by Leaflet
[21:20:19] <Zverik_w> судя по нервяку mourner-а, у него какие-то проблемы с клаудмейдом. Возможно, уволился, или уйдёт в ближайшие пару месяцев
[21:21:06] <vvoovv> а в чем нервяк?
[21:21:23] <Zverik_w> комментарий к заметке почитай, например
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[21:22:54] <vvoovv> хм это моурнер? он указал свой адрес?
[21:23:15] <Zverik_w> не указал, но догадаться несложно :)
[21:23:45] <vvoovv> он и в прошлый раз примерно также тебе ответил
[21:23:53] <Zverik_w> ага
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[21:51:22] <Hind> Котаны, чем редактировать binary xml?
[21:52:47] <vvoovv> Hind: раскодируй в xml, редактируй, потом обратно в бинари
[21:53:13] <Hind> а чем?
[21:53:26] <Hind> я вообще никаких утилит для работы с ЭТИМ не нашел
[21:53:56] <vvoovv> это pbf?
[21:53:59] <Hind> нет
[21:54:04] <Hind> это некий bxml
[21:56:30] <vvoovv> может это закрытый формат
[21:56:59] <Hind> все может быть..
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[22:04:37] <Hind> Настало время опробовать 7дорог на ведроиде
[22:05:56] <Hind> Да черт побери, почему ситигид не может сделать редактируемые цветовые схемы уже? Это даже в 7w есть
[22:08:26] <Hind> ого
[22:08:40] <Hind> в отзывах жалуются, что 7 дорог ведет по зимникам летом
[22:09:04] <Hind> к вопросу об обязательной поддержке конвертерами схем тегирования :3
[22:09:28] <Hind> хоть прям знак качества делай и выдавай по результатам сертификации...
[22:34:30] <iav_work> "не хуже ситигида"
[22:34:44] <iav_work> "не хуже османда"
[22:34:55] <iav_work> и логотипчики
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[23:43:15] <Mixai[l|ll|lll]> Osmcats. Seal of approval.
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