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[02:54:58] <andrewsh> nyan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4fiULlKOxA&feature=player_embedded
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[05:11:50] <lk4d4> чо-кове?
[05:18:54] <iav> АААААААА!!!!!!!! кто здесь?!
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[12:38:14] <az09[home]> как на локалхосте развернуть ОСМЪ?
[12:39:50] <Mixail> там же инструкция есть https://github.com/ErshKUS/OpenStreetMap.ru/blob/master/README.md
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[12:45:08] <az09[home]> ох! а без CLI никак?..
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[12:50:05] <CGI278> всем привет и с наступившим :)
[12:53:40] <CGI278> Камрады, подскажите будласка, есть ли в джосме возможность построения ортогональных отрезков ? а-ля автокад
[12:53:40] <CGI278> иными словами как провести ровную линию паралельную рамке монитора, что б не на глазок
[12:55:47] <az09[home]> CGI278: нарисуй прямоугольник и Q нажми. потом лишнее поотрубай
[12:56:11] <az09[home]> только это конечно не будет параллельно рамке монитора
[12:56:36] <CGI278> az09[home] мне нужна строгая ориентация что бы была
[12:56:46] <CGI278> вот и я о том же
[12:57:07] <az09[home]> а вообще в идеале нужно как-то коордиинаты задать одинаковые по широте, например
[12:57:24] <CGI278> а что, есть возможность рисования по координатам?????????
[12:57:26] <az09[home]> можно подшаманить в файле osm
[12:58:00] <CGI278> az09[home]> кстати да, это мысль! спасибо :)
[12:58:08] <az09[home]> но сдается мне что это не для того чтобы рисовать реальные объекты!?
[12:59:30] <CGI278> это для наложения через PicLayer растровой картинки, для служебных нужд :)
[12:59:40] <Mixail> CGI278: в плагине utilsplugin2 есть возможность рисовать по координатам
[13:00:18] <CGI278> Mixail сейчас испытаю, спасибо!
[13:03:41] <Mixail> CGI278: потом можно будет создавать прямоугольники с такой же ориентацией с помощью плагина building_tools
[13:05:25] <CGI278> Mixail нет, это уже не нужно :)
[13:05:25] <az09[home]> почему османд может не устанавливаться на китайпад с 4-ым андроидом? гпс отсутствует, например?
[13:05:27] <Mixail> а что он насчет этого говорит?
[13:06:06] <Mixail> в маркете пишет, что недоступно?
[13:13:13] <amak> Видели что портал Ростреестра что с картой и каталогом генпланов и прочим обновился? Карта там уже работает и одной из подложек - ОСМ :)
[13:15:08] <CGI278> amak а ссылочку?
[13:15:44] <CGI278> http://maps.rosreestr.ru/PortalOnline/ ?
[13:15:45] <Mixail> amak: такое? http://nsdi.ru/geoportal/catalog/search/search.page
[13:16:05] <amak> ах, да fgis.minregion.ru
[13:16:45] <az09[home]> Mixail: > в маркете пишет, что недоступно
[13:16:46] <az09[home]> именно так
[13:17:42] <Mixail> az09[home]: скатай apk http://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/OsmAnd-default.apk
[13:20:04] <amak> CGI278, там если внизу выбрать АТД, то появляется иерархический список муниципального деления. Со ссылкой на готовые или проектируемые планы
[13:20:10] <Mixail> amak: ой, silverlight. И похоже тайлы тащит напрямую.
[13:22:34] <amak> Mixail, украинский аналог с кадастром (про него вчера пост на хабре был) тоже тащит напрямую
[13:25:14] <CGI278> как то там с классификацей и сортировкой всё через Ж, всё валом
[13:25:46] <amak> CGI278, внизу слева надо выбрать АТД
[13:27:00] <CGI278> amak Ух ты :)
[13:27:18] <CGI278> сразу возникает вопрос, можно ли эти данные использовать в ОСМ?
[13:28:06] <CGI278> есть прекрасные карты с номерами домов, улицами, поями :)
[13:31:11] <CGI278> вернее планы и генпланы
[13:33:33] <amak> хм, для моего района настолько подробных не выгружали. Я всем этим пользуюсь в-основном для рисования границ сельских поселений
[13:34:49] <CGI278> amak ну так вообще этим можно пользоваться или нет? или статус такой же как и у данных публичной кадастровой карты? - неопределённый :)
[13:36:21] <sim> CGI278: да так, но если схема утверждена - неопределенность меньше, на неутв.схемы отмазка "офиц.документ" и соответственно недействие авторского права, не распространяется
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[13:54:14] <az09[home]> logger[psha]: ссыль на Calendar for 2013 (http://psha.org.ru/irc/%23osm-ru/index-2013.html) добавь на http://psha.org.ru/irc/
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[17:27:25] <shurik> twms
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[17:36:15] <lenux> Так поставил из портов ubuntu. Запустил. В scanaerial прописать как wms_server_url = http://127.0.0.1:8080/?layer=bing&
[17:41:25] <shurik> а там этот слой есть вообще?
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[17:51:48] <lenux> Как я понял , что может быть
[17:54:59] <shurik> может не значит есть
[17:55:04] <shurik> посмотри в twms.conf
[17:58:35] <lenux> Только если в параметры что-то прописать нужно
[18:03:07] <lenux> Точно нету бинга(
[18:03:33] <shurik> в tmws.conf должен быть если есть
[18:07:27] <lenux> Так в этом файле и нету
[18:08:02] <shurik> значит нету в этой сборке его вообще
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[18:25:52] <shurik> в этом есть смысл :)
[18:29:23] <shurik> а теперь представь себе чайника с таким струментом...
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[18:43:00] <lenux> Да я мысленно это понимаю
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[18:55:35] <Maks|shore> scanaerial плагин чего?
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[19:04:39] <Mixail> плагин josm
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[19:06:47] <Maks|shore> в josm я его не вижу
[19:06:54] <andrewsh> а он там есть
[19:21:28] <shurik> Maks|shore: это бывший fuzzer
[19:22:24] <Maks|shore> я понял уже
[19:23:57] <Maks|shore> я фастдравом красивее рисую :)
[19:24:17] <Maks|shore> не так быстро, но зато няшно
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[21:01:16] <putnik> Что за хрень со стандартным мапником?
[21:01:37] <putnik> Такое ощущение, что он рисуется по данным полугодовой давности.
[21:02:21] <putnik> Причём в кеше вполне актуальный рендер, но стоит сбросить — и сразу фигня.
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[21:04:40] <shurik> cc-by-sa тайлы?
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[21:10:22] <putnik> http://www.openstreetmap.ru/#lat=59.213581&lon=39.853036&zoom=18&layer=M
[21:11:21] <putnik> У всех есть дворовые проезды, на мапнике нет. На Космоснимках вообще треш какой-то.
[21:13:54] <putnik> shurik, возвращение живых мертвецов?
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[21:52:17] <az09[home]> README.md#101> Создаем пользователя базы данных
[21:52:17] <az09[home]> какого пользователя? куда его потом пользовать?
[21:54:51] <az09[home]> ага, кажись врубился. нужно своего пользователя создать в погрескуле? в смысле с тем именем которым в убунточку логинюсь. так?
[21:55:33] <Mixail> вроде не обязательно совпадение имен
[21:56:02] <az09[home]> типа чтобы следующая команда "createdb postgistemplate" выполнялась именно от имени этого пользователя
[21:56:43] <Mixail> тут как-то по другому http://www.sakana.fr/blog/2007/06/06/postgresql-create-a-user-a-database-and-grant-accesses/
[21:57:29] <az09[home]> ибо ругается "could not connect to database postgres: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "пользователь""
[21:58:48] <az09[home]> по поводу привилегий юзера postgres кстати где-то встречалось уже на просторах
[21:59:21] <az09[home]> чиво бы вот только в реадми это всёё не записать!?
[21:59:44] <Mixail> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PostgreSQL_(Русский)
[22:02:47] <az09[home]> статья 2010 года
[22:02:48] * az09[home] тем временем установил pgAdmin III
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[22:14:19] <iav_work> газета за 1913 год
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[22:35:45] <putnik> Такое ощущение, что тайлсерверу вообще кирдык.
[22:36:02] <shurik> похоже на то
[22:36:13] <shurik> может стиль накатывают новый?
[22:36:42] <putnik> А собирались?
[22:37:14] <shurik> не в курсе
[22:43:49] <andrewsh> всем тайлсервер
[22:44:02] <andrewsh> !!11
[22:50:52] <Mixail> они случайно тайлсервер
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[23:30:39] <Mixail> mourner обещает в течение недели зарелизить leaflet 0.5
[23:36:55] <vvoovv> Mixail: а чего нового будет в 0.5?
[23:37:50] <iav_work> tiles. lot of tiles.
[23:38:10] <Mixail> vvoovv: https://github.com/CloudMade/Leaflet/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md в секции master
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[23:39:24] <iav_work> http://youtu.be/EvhdWBBuBpA?t=2m10s
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