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[00:07:28] <Zverik> кстати, ссылка на каталог:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Catalog/Zverik
[00:07:41] <Zverik> я сейчас думаю, бывают ли объекты, требующие для описания два тега
[00:11:22] <old_Bibigon> Zverik, дворовые дорожки hw=service + living_street=yes
[00:11:50] <old_Bibigon> Zverik, ну и многие service вроде тоже с уточнениями
[00:15:49] <jekhor> highway=construction
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[00:58:32] <WatchCat> CGI226: Привет! Ты кто?..
[00:58:38] <Zverik> old_Bibigon: дворовые дорожки -- частный случай сервисных проездов, этого недостаточно для нового объекта
[00:58:55] <Zverik> вопрос в том, бывает ли, что при добавлении тега тип объекта изменяется качественно
[01:02:03] <old_Bibigon> Не следует путать служебные дороги с узкими улицами и переулками, проходящими рядом с домами и/или имеющими в названии статусную часть "проезд" (highway=living_street, highway=residential, highway=unclassified или иной тег для дороги более высокого класса)
[01:02:28] <old_Bibigon> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:highway%3Dservice
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[01:33:12] <Zverik> интересно, в статье про highway=service нет ссылки на living_street=yes
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[04:25:16] <WatchCat> unnicked090: Привет! Ты кто?..
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[10:02:50] <Zverik> Если есть живые петербуржцы, или вы знаете способ смотреть ртр-петербург, сейчас самое время настроить
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[10:50:44] <Zverik> короче, пропустил передачу: у самого телевизор не настроен, в сети трансляции не нашёл :(
[10:50:57] <Zverik> в понедельник, скорее всего, выложат запись в сеть
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[11:28:02] <Zverik> о, уже начали заливать
[11:28:33] <Zverik> будет здесь:
http://www.rtr.spb.ru/vesti/vesti_2012/default_prog.asp?prog=2
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[16:00:51] <Maks|shore> а чем сейчас принято обознать горные массивы? Не хребты, а саму скальную возвышенность?
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[19:43:51] <|newbie|> Скажите, а есть в OSM информация по highways exits and facilities?
[19:43:59] |newbie| is now known as Mezonin
[19:52:21] <az09[home]> Mezonin: переведи
[19:52:47] <Mezonin> az09[home]: съезды с дорог с ПОИ
[19:53:29] <az09[home]> не могу придумать зачем оно надо
[19:53:35] <az09[home]> фш вики highways exits and facilities
[19:53:54] <az09[home]> блин, опять кот гуляет
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[19:55:52] <Mezonin> ну, знаешь, сервисы всякие, типа ремонт автомобиля. Заправка, гостиница.
[19:56:18] <Mezonin> удобно было бы при навигации, по текущей дороге показывать сервисы.
[20:03:23] <Mezonin> допустим, въезжаю на дорогу, а к этой дороге у меня есть свойства exits with facility, и показываю, что по правой стороне есть wash car, отдельным окном
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[20:57:49] <az09[home]> Mezonin: imho всё это заботы софта - отдельными окнами показывать что там спереди справа
[20:58:34] <Mezonin> az09[home]: может быть, только вряд ли runtime, это лучше всего на этапе конвертирования заложить.
[20:58:57] <Mezonin> просто я пока не пойму как это сделать в OSM
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[21:07:35] <az09[home]> максимум что можно сделать в ОСМ - проставить все POI на свои места конечно же
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[21:09:54] <Mezonin> az09[home]: а привязать как-то можно ПОИ к дороге?
[21:10:59] <az09[home]> лично я стараюсь всегда соединять хотя бы сервисным проездом с дорогой
[21:11:36] <az09[home]> ...и POI включаю в точки этой подъездной
[21:12:27] <az09[home]> ну и расстояние от точки до линии никто не запрещает измерять при конвертации
[21:13:41] <Mezonin> az09[home]: а каким тегом соединяешь с сервисным проездом?
[21:13:50] <az09[home]> а еще можешь запилить пропозал отношения :3
[21:14:20] <az09[home]> просто включаю нод в сервис
[21:15:12] <az09[home]> вот еще идейка (плохая, мне не нравится) - адресация. возможно как-то поиграться с ней
[21:19:19] <Mezonin> то есть, надо каждую дорогу проверить, нет ли в ней ПОИ?
[21:19:26] <Mezonin> это самый первый вариант привязки.
[21:20:37] <az09[home]> да, но не саму главную дорогу, а всякие боковые. ставить POI в точки самой основной дороги это моветон
[21:21:28] <Mezonin> понял, спасибо, это первое что сделаю.
[21:21:39] <Mezonin> потом наверно по расстоянию проверю.
[21:22:02] <az09[home]> вот и прикинь что будет проще - исследовать все ноды прилегающих сервисных дорог (и ведь не все так делают)
[21:22:17] <az09[home]> или закладываться на некое близкое расстояние
[21:22:25] <az09[home]> кмк второе надежнее
[21:22:43] <Mezonin> да, получается квадратичный цикл с расстоянием.
[21:23:01] <az09[home]> дерзай ;)
[21:23:54] <Mezonin> а что делать)
[21:24:51] <az09[home]> изучать постгрескуль! сам мечтаю его освоить да пока не дорос
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[22:51:59] <shurik> В Щербинке поверх одних домов кто-то нарисовал другие...
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[23:26:25] <iav> возможно импорт
[23:28:39] <shurik> слабо похоже - нарисовано очень мало
[23:36:47] <Zverik> возможно, потлатчер не дождался загрузки данных
[23:42:01] <shurik> мб мб
[23:42:06] <shurik> я уже зачистил