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[00:00:49] <old_Bibigon> lit=yes на тротуары ставят когда они освещаются фонарями близлежащей улицы?
[00:05:07] <andrewsh> типа да
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[00:07:31] <old_Bibigon> ну и зашибись
[00:07:52] <old_Bibigon> блин, где там картинко про мультиполигоны разноэтажных зданий
[00:07:54] <old_Bibigon> ?
[00:08:19] <old_Bibigon> фш форумное разноэтажные здания
[00:08:20] <WatchCat`> old_Bibigon: 3D-моделирование в OSM - OpenStreetMap Forum: <
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=128647>; Санкт-Петербург и область - OpenStreetMap Forum: <
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=230825>; Трёхмерные здания в Mapnik (Page 20) / users: Russia ...: <
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=243336>; Про (2 more messages)
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[00:16:08] <Mixaill> Оно?
http://s018.radikal.ru/i503/1202/a5/713b77c57dc8.gif
[00:16:32] <old_Bibigon> Mixaill, ага
[00:17:16] <old_Bibigon> или на неё тоже забивают?
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[00:24:27] <old_Bibigon> и всё-таки как подземные гаражи отмечают с травкой поверху?
[00:32:40] <psha> old_Bibigon: landuse=military :]
[00:35:42] <andrewsh> highway=trunk тогда уж
[00:37:23] <psha> отчего жэ? если гараж под травкой - значит зачем-то это нужно, просто так делать не будут
[00:37:29] <psha> значит это военная тайна
[00:37:32] <psha> значит вояки
[00:37:33] <psha> вот
[00:37:35] <psha> логека!
[00:37:36] <psha> учись
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[00:38:21] <loir> psha, транк зелёненьким рисуется, как травка!
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[01:04:34] <old_Bibigon> да вы тут все зелёненькие, толи под травкой, толи вояки в летнем :/
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[02:34:35] <iav_work> зима близко
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[11:26:51] <iav> ppl, кто-нить правил стайлшиты внутренние жосма? знает чо да как?
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[12:32:53] <az09|and> как искать на мобильной версии глагне?
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[13:19:41] <Maks|ssd> old_Bibigon: как называется ручей, что протекает через "Новый" ?
[13:21:12] <old_Bibigon> хз
[13:22:12] <old_Bibigon> знаю, что рядом с жд Мостовица течёт
[13:25:04] <Maks|ssd> единственное название, которое мне известно, соответсвует народному названию речки через Макарье, но воспитание не позволяет мне такое писать в ОСМ :)
[13:25:27] <old_Bibigon> половина речек говнотечки
[13:25:33] <Maks|ssd> не
[13:25:49] <Maks|ssd> говнотечка - это что-то типа класса речки :)
[13:26:26] <old_Bibigon> фш форумное валидатор водных объектов
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[13:42:48] <Maks|ssd> old_Bibigon: местные говорят, что нет у него даже локального названия
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[14:09:05] <andrewsh> кто тут в ж/д разбирается?
[14:09:39] <andrewsh> подскажите, почему здесь
http://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/?zoom=18&lat=49.36046&lon=19.61967&layers=TBTTT в маршрутах отсутствует последняя станция?
[14:09:54] <andrewsh> в отношениях вроде всегда была
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[14:42:48] <old_Bibigon> Maks|ssd, вятичевские ларьки как обозначаешь?
[14:43:14] <Maks|ssd> чего?
[14:43:47] <old_Bibigon> на пивнушки какие теги вешать положено?
[14:44:11] <Maks|ssd> pub, если заведение более-менее приличное
[14:44:42] <old_Bibigon> ага, а теперь какие на ларьки имени Вятича с разливным
[14:45:04] <Maks|ssd> я бы вообще не стал их отмечать :)
[14:45:10] <Maks|ssd> пиво - дрянь :)
[14:45:21] * old_Bibigon обычно там квасом затаривается :)
[14:45:46] <Maks|ssd> ну не знаю
[14:46:14] <old_Bibigon> shop=kiosk amenity=pub как-то хз :/
[14:46:24] <Maks|ssd> пиво в розлив как то не тянет даже на самый занюханный паб и даже на фастфуд
[14:46:44] <Maks|ssd> не не, никакого паба на разливных ларьках
[14:47:06] <Maks|ssd> маломальский паб - это где можно посидеть, хотя бы у стойки, пока тебе наливают
[14:48:01] <gryphon> shop=alcohol или shop=beverages
[14:48:13] <Maks|ssd> shop=alcohol скорее
[14:48:34] <old_Bibigon> gryphon,
http://maps.yandex.ru/?ll=49.614476%2C58.592169&spn=0.017166%2C0.001215&z=17&l=pmap%2Cstv&ol=stv&oll=49.61420314%2C58.59251291&ost=dir%3A-743.5439700045483%2C-4.153944014698472~spn%3A90%2C28.409272326265217 они такие
[14:49:45] <gryphon> ну, вполне себе шоп
[14:51:03] <Maks|ssd> о, у на чудесное превращение Р-159 в транк
[14:51:07] <Maks|ssd> *у нас
[14:51:26] <Maks|ssd> и Р-157
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[15:26:36] <Zverik> а-а-а-а. Я сделал mind map по Совету, и там материала на полноценный 15-минутный доклад
[15:27:10] <Zverik> хотя... я его и заявлял, по сути
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[19:38:49] <Hind> Zverik: ping
[19:45:36] * Hind не дружит с паяльником, в результате чего припаял провод к стальным плоскогубцам (использовались как тиски)
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[19:48:31] <Hind> Зато в моем устройстве используется синяя изолента
[19:48:43] <trolleway> ура, мы победим все яндексы
[19:49:12] <Hind> Фелиса всё нет
[19:49:41] <trolleway> я решил догонятся на Семёновской, но передумал, и пошёл на Преображенскую. А там по дороге снесли автобазу и строят 4 дома КОПЭ-Парус. Очень заметно на картах будет.
[19:58:21] <trolleway> а у гостинниц - два "гаража под травкой"
[20:12:59] <az09[home]> хочу чтобы ж/д переезды рендерились одим зумом ниже (14->15)! как повлиять на мапник?
[20:13:27] <az09[home]> или хотя бы такое было на ж/дорогах необщего пользования
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[20:23:39] <Zverik> Hind: pong
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[20:35:17] <jekhor> Hind, ты суров
[20:35:51] <Hind> wut
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[20:36:06] <jekhor> az09[home], поднять свой рендер, пытаться влиять бесполезно
[20:36:24] <Hind> jekhor: можно через меня повлиять, но это когда лапы дойдут
[20:36:58] <jekhor> ага, сколько лет уже тикет про нас. пункты висит
[20:37:56] <Hind> тссс
[20:40:00] <az09[home]> вы такие няши ^_^
[20:40:36] <Hind> так, я уехал кататься по ночной москве :3
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[20:42:43] <trolleway> надо говорить: "собирать треки" же.
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[21:39:05] <Komzpa> так, а кто-нибудь нечаянно не сможет меня захостить на 17-18?
[21:48:17] <jekhor> ты б хоть город сказал
[21:49:21] <Komzpa> окрестности гисконфа :3
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[22:02:49] <vvoovv> Komzpa: на форуме напиши про хостинг
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[22:37:24] <psha> как правильно подъезд обозначить?
[22:37:57] <Komzpa> следующий вопрос, кто-нибудь едет на чём-нибудь в москву / из москвы, чтобы сесть на хвост, на 17-18? :3
[22:38:10] <psha> ага, ref и addr:flats
[22:38:25] <Komzpa> psha: и entrance=*
[22:39:03] <ErshKUS> Komzpa: или building=entrance :)
[22:39:18] <Komzpa> ErshKUS: с каких пор?
[22:39:46] <ErshKUS> с давних
[22:40:00] <psha> Komzpa: про entrance и так понятно
[22:40:07] <psha> меня addr:flats интересовал
[22:40:58] <ErshKUS> Komzpa: кстати, entrance=* это во всем осме? или локально?
[22:41:31] <psha> Komzpa: кстати
[22:41:32] <psha> скажи мне
[22:41:40] <psha> шойтазаужос?!111
[22:41:49] <psha> http://osm.org.ru/#layer=K&zoom=14&lat=53.96658&lon=58.41615
[22:41:53] <psha> коричневое
[22:42:31] <loir> tertiary
[22:42:44] <Komzpa> psha: у тебя не работают пермалинки на слои
[22:42:49] <Komzpa> открылся мапник
[22:42:55] <Komzpa> а так, какой-то глюк.
[22:43:24] <psha> Komzpa: я не домержил осмъ, ога
[22:43:27] <psha> мой косяк
[22:46:58] <Mixaill> Komzpa: это у вас браузер неправильный
[22:47:51] <jekhor> народ, а скажите, у вас на картах какая система романизации названий используется? Наверняка же есть инструкция соответствующая.
[22:48:08] <jekhor> в смысле, на официальных картах в России
[22:48:34] <psha> Mixaill: да нет, там реальне бага есть косячная в ЛЛ
[22:49:01] <psha> jekhor: система романизации - тобишь выборки наиболее романтичных названий?
[22:49:31] <jekhor> передачи кириллических названий на романские языки буквами латинского алфавита
[22:49:46] <Mixaill> с применением диакритических знаков и буквосочетаний, одна из разновидностей транслитерации.
[22:51:36] <jekhor> угу. Короче, на картах для иностранцев как передаются?
[22:52:39] <jekhor> то, что я видел, было по ISO 9, но для географических названий может использоваться другая система, регулируется это местными инструкциями
[22:58:02] <andrewsh> jekhor: я видел карту с надписями в духе Šeremetjevo
[22:58:24] <andrewsh> т.е. «почти» латинка
[22:58:25] <jekhor> я тоже видел. Даже вроде тебе показывал, когда ты в офис заходил :)
[22:58:36] <jekhor> но мне нужен докУмент
[22:58:42] <andrewsh> может. но я в интернетах находил
[22:58:48] <jekhor> а так это вполне себе ISO 9
[22:59:08] <jekhor> но он на геоназвания не распространяется, для них выпускают отдельные инструкции
[23:00:27] <andrewsh> ой, в исо-9 какая-то дурь присутствует
[23:00:30] <andrewsh> например è
[23:00:36] <andrewsh> эт они зря
[23:00:42] <psha> Komzpa: походу все tertiary такими стали
[23:01:07] <jekhor> andrewsh, угу, потому-то наши свою и разрабатывали
[23:03:02] <andrewsh> jekhor: ох, система B вообще дикость
[23:03:16] <jekhor> :))
[23:03:28] <andrewsh> Ъ ъ A` a`, `` two grave accents for Russian, a` for Bulgarian
[23:03:33] <andrewsh> Ы ы Y` y` in Russian and Belarusian
[23:03:33] <Mezonin> подскажите кто-нибудь алгоритм какой-нибудь другой по подсчету scale, я вот так считаю float scale = 65536. / 1e6 * ::pow(0.50, iDetailLevel + 1); получается, 0.032768, 0.016384, 0.008192 ... 0.000002. Может не совсем правильно.
[23:03:38] <andrewsh> Э э E` e` in Russian and Belarusian
[23:03:57] <andrewsh> jekhor: внимание, финт ушами:
[23:03:58] <andrewsh> Щ щ Shh, Sht shh, sht shh for Russian and Ukrainian, sht for Bulgarian
[23:04:07] <jekhor> andrewsh, этот стандарт заточен на двустороннее взаимно однозначное преобразование
[23:04:27] <jekhor> ооох
[23:06:07] <andrewsh> > ъ and ѫ are not transliterated at the end of a word.
[23:06:15] <andrewsh> да, особенно «ѫ»!
[23:06:25] <andrewsh> важный буква!
[23:07:11] <andrewsh> как мы без большого юса живём
[23:07:20] <jekhor> а что за оно?
[23:07:44] <andrewsh> ну Ѫ
[23:07:51] <andrewsh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ѫ
[23:08:08] <andrewsh> Phonetically, Little yus represents a nasalized front vowel, possibly [ɛ̃], while big yus represents a nasalized back vowel, such as IPA [ɔ̃]. This is also suggested by the appearance of each as a 'stacked' digraph of 'Am' and 'om' respectively.
[23:08:58] <andrewsh> га
[23:09:02] <andrewsh> а у поляков они есть!
[23:09:11] <andrewsh> ę и ą, соответственно
[23:11:19] <andrewsh> вот же ж
[23:11:23] <andrewsh> наплодили литер
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[23:12:14] <andrewsh> jekhor: кстати, забавная штука, но буквы љ и њ возникли исключительно случайно
[23:13:25] <andrewsh> > Букву эту Караджич изобрёл, вообще говоря, по недоразумению: ему показалось, что старая сербская буква «дервь» (Ћ) «есть не что иное, как воедино составленные т и ь» (см. указанную грамматику, стр. 8), и он решил применить
[23:13:31] <andrewsh> этот метод к другим буквам, создав Љ и Њ.
[23:13:33] <andrewsh> не знаю, насколько это правда, правда :)
[23:14:09] <jekhor> Zverik, может, хоть ты знаешь. Какие в России официальные правила транслитерации географических названий латинскими буквами?
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[23:25:01] <Komzpa> о, классную багу в komap выкинуло этим tertiary
[23:25:16] <Komzpa> оно лезет за ними в planet_osm_roads, а их там нет
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[23:44:58] <trolleway> Каких бы тегов повесить на дореволюционный фонарный столб?
