#osm-ru | Logs for 2012-06-20

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[01:41:48] <cherry_lin> хм
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[01:42:16] <cherry_lin> а что используют модные посоны чтоб рисовать осм в андройд приложениях
[01:42:25] <cherry_lin> и вообще как-то с картой работать
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[08:33:07] <psha[work]> ErshKUS[work]: тут?
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[09:04:23] <ErshKUS[work]> psha[work]: да
[09:04:28] <ErshKUS[work]> воткнул вчера
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[09:05:37] <za90> как в османд-е заставить маршрут строиться как надо, а не как ему хочется?
[09:07:58] <psha[work]> починилиось?
[09:08:04] <psha[work]> ты со старым проверял?
[09:08:28] <psha[work]> я вчера на себе не смог это повторить, просто почистил
[09:09:22] <ErshKUS[work]> не я смог
[09:09:31] <ErshKUS[work]> воспроизводилось 100%
[09:10:29] <psha[work]> круто
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[09:42:02] <za90> напомните где маршрутизацию проверить можно
[09:46:08] <Komzpa> openstreetmap.by?
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[09:47:24] <za90> Komzpa: шутишь?!
[09:49:56] <Komzpa> za90: http://openstreetmap.by/?zoom=10&lat=53.9653&lon=27.613&via=0.000000,0.000000;27.482000,53.926000&vehicle=car
[09:50:03] <Komzpa> za90: в смысле "шучу"?
[09:51:51] <za90> Komzpa: ну ладно! а то я шуток-то не люблю :3
[09:51:52] * za90 slow как всегда, про контекстное меню на osm.by совсем забыл
[09:57:13] <za90> Komzpa: что такое via=0.000000,0.000000 и можно ли в vehicle подставить "каяк"? ;)
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[09:58:10] <Komzpa> za90: 0.,0. - это "от текущего местоположения юзера"
[09:58:39] <Komzpa> водной маршрутизации нет, из спрятанного разве что foot
[09:59:22] <za90> и если я нажал "не шарить мое место", то подействует то что после ; ?
[10:04:47] <Komzpa> za90: нет, осмбай всегда знает где ты
[10:04:57] <Komzpa> просто иногда не так точно, как хотелось бы
[10:05:28] <Mixailll> Komzpa: осм.бай прям КГБ ;)
[10:05:41] <Komzpa> почему "как"
[10:06:28] <Mixailll> О_о, да вы опасный человек :)
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[10:07:20] <Komzpa> нет, просто я "верстаю" и "программирую"
[10:07:22] <za90> опасный, но добрый ^__^
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[10:17:16] <glebius> буду ли я боянистом если дам ссылку на http://habrahabr.ru/post/125734/
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[10:24:18] <cherry_lin> АААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААА
[10:24:19] <cherry_lin> Processing: Node(1451697k 150.4k/s) Way(92824k 10.41k/s) Relation(0 0.00/s)Entity: line -733454932: parser error : Couldn't find end of Start Tag nd
[10:24:23] <cherry_lin> <nd
[10:24:25] <cherry_lin> ^
[10:24:27] <cherry_lin> ну что я делаю не так
[10:24:30] <cherry_lin> /dev/stdin : failed to parse
[10:24:32] <cherry_lin> Error occurred, cleaning up
[10:24:35] <cherry_lin> это уже 4-ый заход с новым файлом
[10:24:56] <cherry_lin> может есть где валидные планет осм
[10:25:08] <cherry_lin> их вообще тестируют?
[10:25:10] <cherry_lin> или как так получается
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[10:29:15] <old_Bibigon> cherry_lin, распакуй руками
[10:29:36] <psha[work]> cherry_lin: образалось что-то?
[10:29:56] <cherry_lin> ща руками попробую конечно
[10:42:37] <ErshKUS[work]> glebius: :)
[10:48:58] <Komzpa> cherry_lin: 1)бери протобуф 2) выкачивай файл до конца
[10:54:03] <ErshKUS[work]> Komzpa: а прокладчик свой или откуда то тянешь данные
[10:54:05] <ErshKUS[work]> ?
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[10:54:57] <ErshKUS[work]> Komzpa: а то есть какие то непонятные баги, в некоторых местах как будто запрет поворота, ессно там его нет
[10:54:59] <Komzpa> ErshKUS[work]: тюненый движок от ёрнавигейшена
[10:56:37] <ErshKUS[work]> Komzpa: а данные свежие?
[10:57:00] <Komzpa> ErshKUS[work]: раз в день с гислаба
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[10:59:56] <ErshKUS[work]> вот не уверен насчет ограничений поворотов
[11:00:09] <za90> велосипедом османд сильно по-другому предлагает ехать, а осм.бай прям точь в точь по автомобильному
[11:03:14] <ErshKUS[work]> Komzpa: у тебя пермалинка не нашел вот тут http://osm.org.ru/#layer=M&zoom=18&lat=54.720137&lon=20.499034 если интересно
[11:03:33] <ErshKUS[work]> с советского на площадь победы
[11:03:39] <ErshKUS[work]> и обратно
[11:06:21] <Mixailll> ErshKUS[work]: пермалинк автоматом генерируется в адресной строке
[11:07:33] <ErshKUS[work]> Mixailll: нет
[11:07:48] <Mixailll> ErshKUS[work]: да
[11:08:00] <Mixailll> подвигай карту
[11:08:13] <Mixailll> если курсор не стоит в строке, то цифры будут меняться
[11:08:52] <ErshKUS[work]> в какой строке?
[11:09:16] <Mixailll> браузера
[11:09:23] <ErshKUS[work]> Mixailll: открыл http://openstreetmap.by/?zoom=10&lat=53.9653&lon=27.613&via=0.000000,0.000000;27.482000,53.926000&vehicle=car - подвигал - http://openstreetmap.by/?zoom=10&lat=53.9653&lon=27.613&via=0.000000,0.000000;27.482000,53.926000&vehicle=car
[11:09:49] <ErshKUS[work]> курсор стоял в строке поиска
[11:10:09] <Mixailll> ErshKUS[work]: значит проблемы с FF
[11:11:01] <ErshKUS[work]> Mixailll: да
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[11:13:57] <cherry_lin> Komzpa: да файл то 100% целиком выкачан
[11:14:00] <cherry_lin> мд5 совпадают же
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[11:29:09] <cherry_lin> так это
[11:29:13] <cherry_lin> повторю вопрос
[11:29:13] <cherry_lin> 01:44:44 < cherry_lin> а что используют модные посоны чтоб рисовать осм в андройд приложениях
[11:29:17] <cherry_lin> 01:44:54 < cherry_lin> и вообще как-то с картой работать
[11:29:23] <cherry_lin> может кто сталкивался
[11:30:08] <Mixailll> cherry_lin: OSMmaptuner и пляши по рекомендуемым в маркете
[11:31:52] <Mixailll> Но лучше ставить путевые точки в OSMtracker или дома в keypadMapper
[11:38:28] <ErshKUS[work]> как же приятно, после появления на новых снимках новостройки увидеть, что она точно была мной нарисована "на глазок" :)
[11:39:19] <ErshKUS[work]> ей помогло то что она на остановке, я была долго ждал автобус
[11:39:42] <ErshKUS[work]> ...я было долго...
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[11:42:58] <SergeyA> cherry_lin: Я osmand-ом пользуюсь чтобы poi и osmbugs на местности расставлять. Потом из дома josm-ом рихтую.
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[12:01:32] <Larry0ua> напомните, плз, где можно посмотреть на тайлы с локализацией?
[12:02:00] <cherry_lin> м
[12:02:06] <cherry_lin> SergeyA: Mixailll: я неправильно выразился наверное %)
[12:02:22] <cherry_lin> нам не саму карту править надо
[12:02:33] <cherry_lin> а чтоб был какой-то интерфейс для отрисовки слоев
[12:02:41] <cherry_lin> как лифлет в общем
[12:02:53] <cherry_lin> и манипуляции с картой
[12:03:09] <cherry_lin> я плохо мысли свои излагаю, извините
[12:03:10] <Larry0ua> пардон, нашел - http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/
[12:03:21] <za90> cherry_lin: оффлайн?
[12:03:29] <cherry_lin> не, не обязательно
[12:03:58] <za90> если по-быстрому то пусть будет как раз лифлет в браузере
[12:04:36] <cherry_lin> мм
[12:04:42] <cherry_lin> ну я думал мож есть что пошустрее
[12:04:57] <cherry_lin> чтоб без браузеров обойтись %)
[12:05:30] <za90> вообще посмотри тему GaM-а, там довольно скоро для него приложение написали. чего было использовано не в курсе
[12:06:15] <cherry_lin> хм
[12:06:17] <cherry_lin> а поподробней можно
[12:06:20] <cherry_lin> а то плохо гуглится
[12:07:03] <Maks|tundra> cherry_lin: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orux.oruxmaps
[12:08:24] <za90> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=15754
[12:08:57] <cherry_lin> ох
[12:08:59] <cherry_lin> спасибо большое
[12:09:00] <cherry_lin> <3
[12:09:04] <za90> см. сообщения от fokin33
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[12:12:23] <za90> Maks|tundra: расскажи про oruxmaps
[12:17:01] <Maks|tundra> za90: работает, вменяемый
[12:17:42] <Maks|tundra> два уникальных качества, которые даже по одиночке редко встречаются в картософте на андроиде
[12:17:53] <za90> на каком экране? что-то на моем 320*480 весьма перегружено получается
[12:18:30] <Maks|tundra> 920*480 ты хотел сказать?
[12:18:52] <za90> вот-вот (=
[12:18:52] <za90> юзкейсы какие у тебя?
[12:19:58] <Maks|tundra> 480 x 800 у меня
[12:21:10] <za90> use case скажи да :э
[12:21:30] <Maks|tundra> ты сейчас с кем разговариваешь?
[12:22:16] <za90> ну вот блин... с википедией похоже - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_case
[12:22:35] <za90> для чего используешь, в каких обстоятельствах
[12:23:54] <za90> "заправлены в планшеты космические карты" и всё такое...
[12:26:28] <Maks|tundra> главное - посмотреть карту
[12:27:30] <Maks|tundra> это наверное единственный софт, для которого я смог прописать свой тайловый сервер прямо с телефона одной рукой, пока ещал в переполненном автобусе
[12:28:50] <za90> ага, значит 1 - прописывание своего тайл-сервера. зергуд
[12:28:50] <za90> а там всякие фишки типа сообщить в интернет о своем месте? а-ля ОсМо
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[12:30:48] <Maks|tundra> za90: для этого есть гугль-локатор :)
[12:31:00] <za90> в османд выбор источников тайлов богат, но ограничен. так?
[12:31:33] <Maks|tundra> османд не вменяемый по интерфейсу, я его не могу осилисть
[12:31:39] <za90> Maks|tundra: локатор хрен настроишь
[12:32:03] <Maks|tundra> локатор тупо включается и всё
[12:32:33] <za90> угу, и потом хрен от него избавишься ):
[12:33:14] <za90> а еще он только для друзей. так чтобы "на ссылку, смотри где я" - не получится
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[12:35:54] <Maks|tundra> не знаю как османд, а оруксмапс масштабирует тайлы понижая их dpi что бы на экранах с 200-350 dpi надписи был не 0,2 мм
[12:36:51] <Maks|tundra> ну и в от личии от османда оруксмапс не клянчит денег постоянно
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[12:38:11] <Mixailll> Maks|tundra: Османд клянчит только у тех, кто не осилил ночные билды.
[12:39:15] <za90> Mixailll: как понять ночной у меня или нет? вроде из маркета ставил, но денег не клянчит
[12:40:04] <Mixailll> za90: ночный билд тянется с osmand.net и умеет плюшки османд+
[12:40:33] <Mixailll> Орукс умеет вектор?
[12:40:59] <za90> нунизнаю... 0.7.3 beta. порой обновляется, с маркета
[12:41:45] <za90> вот чо замутил: http://habrahabr.ru/qa/20721/ :3
[12:44:43] <Mixailll> В ночном новый формат файла с картой, поломали оффлайн навигацию (может уже починили) и перевели османд на модульную структуру
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[12:53:10] <psha[work]> Mixailll: орукс умеет вектор, но я не осилил его накормит оным
[12:53:26] <psha[work]> а еще орукс не умеет оверлеи
[12:54:47] <Mixailll> >> Обновлен онлайн-карт.
[12:54:48] <Mixailll> Переводчик хорошо знать язык и гугл переводчик
[12:58:20] <Mixailll> >>-Форума с калиброванной карты для приложения
[12:58:21] <Mixailll> застрелится, это что за переводчик, теперь даже промт не казнит монтжников
[12:59:37] <za90> юзер плохонько знающий английский всегда лучше
[12:59:48] * za90 намекает на себя :)
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[13:01:46] <Mixailll> а, так оно на английском примерно так и звучит, calibrated maps for OruxMaps
[13:06:55] <Larry0ua> ErshKUS[work]: есть предложение - сделать "домашнее положение", хранящееся в куках, и кнопку Домой где-то. чтоб не зумить через полмира))
[13:07:55] <Mixailll> там же есть кнопка геолокации
[13:08:28] <Larry0ua> мой прокси находится за 500км...
[13:08:31] <ErshKUS[work]> угу, есть
[13:09:02] <Mixailll> Larry0ua: геолокация от гугла и телефон с андроидом решают эту проблему
[13:09:26] <Larry0ua> так на компе же хочется
[13:09:34] <ErshKUS[work]> Larry0ua: а то что в clientLat/lon ?
[13:09:49] <ErshKUS[work]> тоже неправильно?
[13:09:50] <Mixailll> в этом вся фишка, гугл умеет шарить положения с андроида
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[13:10:25] <Mixailll> 1) если один и тот же IP 2) конкретно в опере можно ввести трэкинг код гугл локатора
[13:11:36] <Larry0ua> в общем как я понимаю, можно как-то сказать какому-то сервису, что мой ип+браузер находятся совсем не там, где они думают?
[13:11:54] <ErshKUS[work]> Larry0ua: глянь в переменные js
[13:12:12] <Larry0ua> ErshKUS[work]: показывают расположение прокси
[13:12:19] <ErshKUS[work]> abujdj
[13:12:21] <ErshKUS[work]> фигово
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[13:25:41] <Zverik> dezhin: обновление валидатора границ что-то с 16-го висит
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[13:27:35] <ErshKUS|mob> Larry0ya: а домой нужно уже после прикручивания авторизации
[13:32:28] <Komzpa> Larry0ua: нужно чинить геолокацию браузера, а не все сайты по отдельности
[13:35:04] <Larry0ua> Komzpa: пришел к тому же выводу в общем-то...
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[13:58:08] <ErshKUS[work]> psha[work]: тут?
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[14:00:30] <psha[work]> йа
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[14:26:45] <za90> ну и дела ↑2 и ↓2 при этом ни одного ответа
[14:28:44] <Mixailll> все кто могут, те r/o
[14:30:05] <za90> в q&a заметил что по-другому чем в постах, и я со своей маленькой кармой голосовать могу
[14:30:19] <Mixailll> хочется движок рендера из mapswithme
[14:30:27] <Mixailll> он крутой и красивый
[14:31:14] <Komzpa> он херь, и своё мнение о нём авторам лично я уже высказывал
[14:31:31] <Komzpa> обещали принять замечания к сведению и так и не приняли
[14:31:33] <Mixailll> он быстрый
[14:31:48] <Komzpa> ничуть
[14:32:08] <Komzpa> последний османд быстрее
[14:32:20] <Komzpa> распиаренный - да
[14:32:56] <Mixailll> не знаю, на ARMv6 османд значительно медленнее
[14:33:09] <Mixailll> последний: 0.7.3 или 0.8 ?
[14:33:46] <Mixailll> но само приложение да, херь полная
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[14:33:57] <Mixailll> мне его смысл вообще не понятен
[14:34:10] <Komzpa> пала с собой нет, маркетовый двухнедельной давнсти
[14:34:25] <Mixailll> значит 0.7.3
[14:34:50] <Mixailll> в 0.8 начала месяца есть провал в производительности
[14:34:58] <Mixailll> сейчас на новом посмотрю
[14:35:50] <Komzpa> я помню, что заапдейтил и офигел от того, что османд после апдейта порвал mwm
[14:42:51] <Zverik> Лёша схлестнулся с известным коллективом, эпичная битва за подземные переходы Москвы http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=249653#p249653
[14:44:00] <Zverik> Mixailll: OsmAnd+, Current Version: 0.7.3
[14:45:14] <Mixailll> Zverik: OsmAnd~ master #1186
[14:45:30] <Zverik> Mixailll: это из apk нужно ставить, что ли?
[14:45:59] <Mixailll> да, потом еще самому карту перегонять
[14:46:18] <Mixailll> http://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/
[14:46:52] <Zverik> ой да ну нафиг
[14:51:22] <Mixailll> Zverik: на, причем процесс не быстрый
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[15:00:02] <za90> погодье-ка... нынешний формат для османд умеет жосм сохранять, так?
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[15:02:29] <Mixailll> obf
[15:02:32] <Mixailll> вроде нет
[15:04:47] <za90> значит путаюсь
[15:09:08] <Mixailll> вот, Беларусь перегнать в obf ~30 минут
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[15:30:08] <Mixailll> да, скорость возросла, но всё равно немного не дотягивает до mwm
[15:30:34] <Mixailll> и трапециевидные здания тоже
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[16:52:47] <Larry0ua> вот не пойму, как может nslookup abcd выдавать адрес, а ping abcd говорить, что хост не найден? и по ип пинговаться нормально... и после ipconfig /renew работать нормально...
[16:55:09] <gryphon__> значит пинг берет адрес откуда-то еще...
[16:55:34] <Mixailll> Обожаю внезапные "плановые" технические работы (хабрахабр)
[16:57:07] <gryphon__> Larry0ua: ipconfig /flushdns иногда помогает
[16:58:20] <Mixailll> gryphon__: ipconfig это же только для windows
[16:58:59] <gryphon__> дык судя по его сообщению, там она и есть
[16:59:23] <Mixailll> а, невнимателен
[17:00:05] <Larry0ua> похоже, пинг решил дополнить abcd неправильным доменным именем и поломался
[17:20:43] <Zverik> Larry0ua: разве nslookup пингует хост? он, вроде, должен только до dns доходить
[17:21:05] <Zverik> а, прочитал вопрос до конца
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[19:08:20] <Runich> Всем привет
[19:08:53] <Runich> померу линия насыпь не отображается рендером (стандартным) ?
[19:10:08] <Zverik> Runich: http://osm.org/go/0zm~2VoV7-
[19:12:32] <Runich> я имею введу http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:embankment
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[19:15:54] <Runich> вот тут не отображается http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.2393&lon=38.49857&zoom=16&layers=M
[19:18:09] <iav_work> osmpad - реальная тема, чуваки.
[19:18:16] <iav_work> городской хардкор
[19:21:50] <Runich> Так в чем же отличие ?
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[19:26:34] <Mixailll> как я понял, две линии должны быть замкнуты
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[19:28:52] <Mixailll> Runich: одна из линий должна смотреть в другую сторону
[19:30:17] <Runich> Вы про какую линию Не пойму ?
[19:30:55] <Runich> В чем отличие embankment=yes от man_made=embankment. ?
[19:31:49] <Mixailll> Ты хочешь обозначить две насыпи или одну подробно?
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[19:32:18] <Runich> Одну
[19:33:02] <Mixailll> разверни левую линию насыпи, левая сторона линии должна смотреть на вызвышенность
[19:33:22] <Zverik> iav_work: ага, я перед написанием заметки заценил
[19:33:28] <Mixailll> и почему правая внезапно обрывается, а левая продолжается
[19:33:32] <Zverik> но, по-моему, каждый раз тягать карту не очень удобно
[19:33:52] <Runich> Это не я редактировал
[19:34:34] <Mixailll> ну вот допили :)
[19:34:52] <Zverik> Runich: ты дал ссылку на место без насыпей
[19:34:57] <Zverik> зато вижу две линии без тегов
[19:35:05] <iav_work> Zverik: я не понял, кеширует ли она.. вроде, там написано, что кеширует. но визуально - тягается
[19:35:33] <Zverik> iav_work: в документации написано, что нужно дома поскроллить место, и все тайлы закэшируются
[19:35:48] <Mixailll> Zverik: О_о на линиях есть теги
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[19:36:10] <Mixailll> Zverik: а, двигайся левее
[19:36:20] <Zverik> понял, вижу
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[19:36:36] <Zverik> только это всё равно неправильно нарисовано
[19:36:42] <Zverik> мол же не нулевой ширины
[19:36:47] <Mixailll> никто же не отрицает
[19:36:59] <Zverik> нужно воду раздвинуть
[19:37:07] <Runich> Вот http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62262840/Screenshot-1.png
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[19:39:55] <Runich> А как вообще зделать насыпи на ЖД ?
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[19:42:16] <Runich> Типо такой http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Railway_embankment.jpg
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[19:44:18] <Mixailll> на линию с Жд вешаешь embankment=yes
[19:45:20] <Runich> его не видно !
[19:45:28] <iav_work> Zverik: и надо ему в папку с тайлами кинуть файл .nomedia
[19:45:58] <Mixailll> Runich: это другой случай
[19:46:12] <Runich> А почему не man_made=embankment. ?
[19:46:15] <Zverik> Runich: да и какая нафиг разница, видно или нет?
[19:46:42] <Zverik> есть русская поговорка: стыдно, когда видно :)
[19:46:57] <Mixailll> Runich: если линия с дорогой + насыпь всё должно быть кошерно
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[19:47:58] <Mixailll> Runich: embankment=yes чаще встречается, но отображаться должно всё
[19:48:38] <Runich> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62262840/Screenshot-1.png почему тат ?
[19:49:28] <Zverik> вот тикет нашёлся: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/963 пишут, что в мапнике сейчас это сложно сделать (хоть Komzpa, наверняка, возразит)
[19:51:04] <dezhin> Zverik: ага, я видел, но не смотрел пока в чем там дело
[19:51:05] <Komzpa> Zverik: там же английским по белому написано: "не представляю, как такое рендерить"
[19:51:23] <Komzpa> Zverik: приаттач образец, пойдёт быстрее
[19:51:40] <Zverik> делали же недавно рисование линий со смещением
[19:51:45] <Komzpa> хотя всё равно не так быстро, как хотелось бы, потому что у них в базе нет колонки embankment
[19:51:45] <Zverik> (или это в маперитиве?)
[19:51:59] <Komzpa> Zverik: хаками оно всегда было
[19:52:15] <Komzpa> стиль кроме того, чтобы написать, нужно придумать
[19:52:25] <Komzpa> и это большая головная боль, чем написать
[19:55:45] <Runich> Ох как все замудренно.
[19:56:21] <Komzpa> Runich: что именно?
[19:57:02] <Runich> Я так и не понял почему http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62262840/Screenshot-1.png тут неотображается ? embankment.
[19:57:31] <Zverik>  /o
[19:58:52] <Komzpa> Runich: потому что ты не рассказал, как именно он должен отображаться
[19:59:45] <Runich> А тут почему есть http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=60.111214&lon=32.310127&zoom=18&layers=M
[20:00:18] <AMDmi3> это natural=cliff
[20:01:09] <Runich> Ну
[20:01:25] <Runich> А рукотворные не отображает чтоли ?
[20:01:41] <Zverik> AMDmi3: это man_made=embankment, но разница невелика
[20:02:06] <AMDmi3> о, уже embankment отображается
[20:02:38] <Runich> покажите где ?
[20:03:14] <AMDmi3> Runich: что у тебя не отображается?
[20:03:22] <Komzpa> Zverik: я давно пинаю всех реимпортнуть на осморг планету с hstore
[20:03:25] <Komzpa> не хотят
[20:04:04] <Komzpa> точнее, впадлу
[20:04:55] <Runich> Блин я уже показывал где
[20:05:12] <AMDmi3> покажи на карте а не на скрине
[20:05:46] <Runich> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.23816&lon=38.49549&zoom=17&layers=M
[20:06:15] <Runich> Если посмотреть в просмотре данных есть линия embankment=yes
[20:06:18] <AMDmi3> потому что embankment=yes, а не man_made=embankment
[20:06:34] <Runich> А в чем отличие то ?
[20:06:59] <AMDmi3> embankment=yes не отображается :)
[20:07:25] <AMDmi3> а вообще отличие в том что e=y - свойство линейного объекта, в m_m=e - контур насыпи
[20:08:18] <AMDmi3> вообще, тут никаких embankment особо не нужно, надо просто обрисовать землю
[20:08:42] <AMDmi3> иначе будет насыпь в воде
[20:09:04] <Runich> Ух ты не знал.
[20:09:41] <Runich> А покажите пожалуйста на карте железную дорогу с embankment?
[20:10:25] <AMDmi3> вот: http://osm.org/go/04om941iX-
[20:10:46] <Runich> О все понял наконец. спасибо.
[20:13:08] <cherry_lin> ох
[20:13:16] <cherry_lin> спасибо тому человеку, что посоветовал мне распаковать карту сначала
[20:13:18] <Runich> Вот еще про дорогу хотел узнать Р315 Уфа
[20:13:27] <cherry_lin> оомкиллер рушит все мои планы оказывается
[20:13:36] <cherry_lin> неужели 32 гб памяти недостаточно
[20:16:09] <iav_work> 650 KB достаточно
[20:16:50] <Runich> Ахринеть таджики нивелиром пользоваться умеют!
[20:17:00] <cherry_lin> cat planet-120508.osm | osm2pgsql -C 30000 -d gis /dev/stdin
[20:17:02] <cherry_lin> чяднт
[20:21:03] <Runich> А когда в чатике много народу бывает?
[20:21:16] <Mixailll> считай, это его пик
[20:21:23] <cherry_lin> сейчас довольно много я б сказал
[20:23:09] <Runich> ЛДавайте про дорогу обсудим (Р315)
[20:23:33] <AMDmi3> что с дорогой-то? и давай сразу ссылку на карту
[20:25:03] <Runich> Вот http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.5639553070068&lon=54.7838401794434&zoom=11
[20:25:20] <Runich> Откуда Р315 взялась в Дюртюлях ?
[20:25:37] <Runich> Она же Уфа-Пермь.
[20:28:23] <AMDmi3> видимо ошибка
[20:31:46] <Runich> А вот ещё коечто нашел по теме embankment http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.810773&lon=10.355331&zoom=18&layers=M
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[20:33:12] <AMDmi3> Runich: ну я про это и говорил - вытянуть береговую линию вдоль этих насыпей и всё
[20:33:49] <AMDmi3> по ссылке ещё дамба - она, разумеется, не нужна
[20:36:09] <Runich> Почему не нужна ?
[20:36:17] * Zverik привёл в порядок отчёты http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Совет_Российского_OSM
[20:36:28] <AMDmi3> Runich: всмысле в твоём случае не нужна
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[20:37:37] <Runich> ?
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[20:40:11] <AMDmi3> Runich: по твоей первой ссылке, http://osm.org/go/05on~~0a5-, нужно только вытянуть береговую линию
[20:40:33] <AMDmi3> Runich: http://osm.org/go/0Gtm901GK-- здесь же вдобавок отмечена дамба
[20:42:53] <Runich> Все понял окончательно.
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[21:34:39] <iav_work> кто в курсе - у ситигидовского валидатора-на-конвертере есть где-нибудь багзилла?
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[21:53:12] <AMDmi3> дорога; name="на х. Красный"
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[22:01:00] <Runich> Вот и картинка http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/33770079.jpg
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[22:29:10] <Mixailll> iav_work: есть гитхаб
[22:31:10] <Mixailll> iav_work: https://github.com/Zkir/osm2dcm/issues
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[22:31:31] <iav_work> спасибо
[22:32:20] <iav_work> а то я им на форум писал, без толку. пусть уж или прямо откажут, или висит и тухнет.
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[22:50:45] <ErshKUS> кто нибудь работал с hstore в python?
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[23:14:46] <psha> спасибо на ссылку на Vladimir Rybinkin!
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