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[00:08:58] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/map/#zoom=10&lat=58.6004&lon=43.624&layer=Bing&line=58.3460,43.4627;58.3474,43.7476;58.8678,43.7524;58.8686,43.4617;58.3461,43.4627
[00:09:01] <psha> хм
[00:09:06] <psha> кто там днём говорил что в ФФ не фурычит?
[00:09:11] <psha> работает вроде
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[00:13:00] <Mixaill> psha: там был 3.6
[00:13:18] <psha> а, 3.6 нисмарел
[00:15:50] <psha> а что там было?
[00:17:55] <Mixaill> [11:32:44] <ErshKUS[work]> psha: кнопки не вижу FF3.6
[00:18:01] <Mixaill> [11:33:52] <ErshKUS[work]> а, в ff и самой линии то нет
[00:18:58] <psha> значит на загрузке что-то сдохло
[00:18:59] <Mixaill> в Opera 12 появится может только со второго пуска
[00:19:38] <Mixaill> IE 10 интересует?
[00:20:50] <psha> в 11 работает
[00:20:52] <psha> 11.62
[00:20:58] <psha> ие 10? ненене )
[00:21:10] <psha> хотя
[00:21:10] <psha> давай
[00:21:11] <psha> )
[00:22:54] <Mixaill> неожиданно нормально
[00:23:01] <Mixaill> 11.62 -уже устаревшая :)
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[00:24:38] <psha> Mixaill: ога, 12 еще дерьмовое, 11.62 - уже
[00:24:43] <psha> ну вашу оперу
[00:24:52] <psha> пойду спать
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[00:57:51] <SergeyA> Что за претензии к paved/unpaved? На спутниковом снимке довольно часто можно отличить paved от unpaved, а вот конкретный тип покрытия там не определишь... Так пусть лучше будет эта информация, чем никакой вообще...
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[09:22:45] <Hind> SergeyA: а вот эта дорога, например, paved или unpaved? :3 http://openstreetmap.ru/#layer=B&zoom=17&lat=56.107215&lon=38.89431
[09:24:10] <Hind> Кто определит правильно, бесплатный вискас :3
[09:26:02] <Komzpa> Hind: unpaved
[09:26:15] <Hind> AND WE HAVE A WINNER
[09:26:37] <Hind> Komzpa: вот как ты опредилил? я бы точно решил, что paved, если бы не знал точно :3
[09:26:51] <Komzpa> это же в россии
[09:28:15] <Komzpa> а вообще, занадто ярко светится для асфальта, скорее песок или что-то типа
[09:29:39] <Hind> ну я и асфальт такой видел, да и в городке рядом довольно яркий
[09:30:29] <Zverik> ой да это грейдер обыкновенный
[09:30:35] <Komzpa> http://openstreetmap.ru/#layer=B&zoom=18&lat=56.103603&lon=38.931915
[09:30:35] <Zverik> асфальт на спутнике еле различим
[09:30:53] <Komzpa> асфальт так не вытаптывается
[09:32:52] <Hind> Komzpa: по тому кусочку я и сам определю ))
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[10:28:52] <ErshKUS[work]> не подскажите заброшенное недостроенное здание как метить?
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[10:31:37] <Zverik> ErshKUS[work]: building=abandoned, например
[10:31:45] <Zverik> ну и в description раскрыть
[10:32:48] <ErshKUS[work]> спс
[10:35:09] <ErshKUS[work]> реквестирую нормальную вставку в josm "key=value" а вставлять в оба поля и удалять ненужное
[10:35:14] <ErshKUS[work]> :)
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[10:46:36] <old_Bibigon> Zverik, на вики есть какой-нибудь список используемых тегов в одном месте, и не совсем тухлое? для тех кто только что из танка
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[11:05:55] <kolen> а насколько часто практикуется отделение адресной информации отдельно от контуров домов, когда ее на точку ставят?
[11:08:23] <Komzpa> kolen: по планете в целом - часто
[11:09:05] <andrewsh> kolen: в европах часто
[11:09:21] <kolen> и кто как маленькие деревянные домики рисует? Если ли смысл вообще контуры у них рисовать? И если рисовать, то что больше практикуется -- рисовать только саму избу, обычно с прямоугольным основанием и хорошо различимую на снимках по форме крыши, или всё вм
[11:09:35] <kolen> а на точку только addr: ставят, или building=yes?
[11:09:44] <andrewsh> > или всё вм
[11:09:48] <andrewsh> kolen: обрезало :(
[11:10:01] <kolen> или всё вместе с пристройками, что трудно различимо?
[11:10:36] <andrewsh> когда нифига не рассмотреть, я рисую просто прямоугольник
[11:10:40] <andrewsh> и не выпендриваюсь
[11:10:44] <andrewsh> :)
[11:12:52] <Komzpa> kolen: на точку только addr, если есть полигон building
[11:19:28] <kolen> интересно, как обрабатывают это системы для reverse geocode
[11:19:37] <kolen> если такие есть вообще
[11:21:25] <andrewsh> конечно же ни одной нету :)
[11:22:38] <ErshKUS[work]> old_Bibigon: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Howto_Map_A , не?
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[11:23:50] <old_Bibigon> а оно хоть обновляется?
[11:24:42] <ErshKUS[work]> типа да
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[12:48:08] <Mixaill> Яблочники не умеют читать копирайты http://habrahabr.ru/post/145861
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[12:54:14] <Mixaill> Дайте им ссылку http://gspsa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html (у кого не скролит воспользуйтесь поиском по странице)
[12:55:40] <Mixaill> (хинт: Roskartographia и OpenStreetMap)
[13:00:56] <za90> кстати вчера рассматривал их карты. такое впечатление что дороги "распознаны" компьютерным способом
[13:02:40] <Mixaill> а где их можно посмотреть без яблока?
[13:03:12] <za90> томтом, не?
[13:03:38] <za90> хотя конечно там кишмиш тот еще похоже
[13:04:15] <Mixaill> там не только томтом
[13:05:14] <za90> ну вот напару с опытным осмо-маппером не смогл ираспознать что за источник
[13:09:58] <za90> Mixaill: так а кого ткнуть в аттрибушен? по тексту вроде не автора, а комментарии запаришься шерстить
[13:11:24] <Mixaill> таки автора
[13:11:25] <Mixaill> >>Покрытие для карт в iOS 6 будет поставлять TomTom, компания производящая навигаторы
[13:11:25] <Mixaill> Что не совсем правда
[13:15:58] <za90> ох, не люблю связываться с фанатами
[13:16:41] <Mixaill> да, дело опасное
[13:18:57] <za90> правда нет скрола... что за дурацкая страница!
[13:19:57] <Mixaill> выпили в исходниках весь head и будет скролиться
[13:20:39] <Mixaill> точнее, css'ку
[13:21:59] <Komzpa> Mixaill: так у них же будет томтом
[13:22:16] <Komzpa> потому что томтом на 16% круче осма
[13:22:25] <Mixaill> Komzpa: а разве не солянка?
[13:22:41] <Komzpa> покажи солянку
[13:22:55] <Mixaill> http://gspsa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html
[13:22:55] <Mixaill> и скролим, скролим
[13:23:06] <Komzpa> солянка осма с томтомом приводит к импорту томтома в осм
[13:23:17] <Mixaill> то что в iPhoto явно не TomTom
[13:23:18] <Larry0ua> сорц страницы скроллится нормально)
[13:23:55] <Komzpa> Mixaill: iphoto - это не ios6
[13:24:22] <Mixaill> Komzpa: можно мешать кусками
[13:24:50] <Komzpa> Mixaill: можно. у тебя есть хоть какой-то пруф, что они это делают?
[13:25:09] <Komzpa> я пока вижу копирайт, перекочевавший из айфото "на всякий случай"
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[13:32:17] <za90> http://habrahabr.ru/post/145861/#comment_4905401
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[17:18:59] <Zverik> эх. Хотел новость на штосм написать, а тот упал. Болотные газы внось поднимаются над Невой
[17:19:06] <Zverik> s/сь/вь/
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[17:20:45] <cherry_lin> psha[work]: хм, скажи, а можно маркерам назначать айдишники как-нибудь при создании
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[17:24:09] <psha[work]> это как?
[17:24:13] <psha[work]> что ты с ним делать то будешь?
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[17:50:12] <cherry_lin> psha[work]: хочу чтоб при marker.on('click', do_cool_things)
[17:50:17] <cherry_lin> делало мне что-то вроде
[17:50:53] <cherry_lin> function do_cool_things() { do_something_really_cool("blablabla"+this.id); }
[17:51:30] <psha[work]> ну и сделай
[17:51:33] <psha[work]> marker.id = xxx
[17:51:38] <psha[work]> при создании
[17:51:45] <psha[work]> это же жабоскрипт
[17:52:12] <psha[work]> но вообще мне твой ход мыслей не нравится ;)
[17:53:31] <cherry_lin> %)
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[17:55:39] <psha[work]> опять ведь будешь делать всякие "xxx(yyy)"
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[18:06:32] <cherry_lin> ну
[18:06:34] <cherry_lin> честно сказать
[18:06:44] <cherry_lin> я сейчас делаю скорее в стиле "главное - работает"
[18:06:50] <cherry_lin> потому что важнее скорость
[18:06:51] <cherry_lin> чем качество
[18:07:03] <cherry_lin> так что извините
[18:07:04] <cherry_lin> %)
[18:07:23] <cherry_lin> но надо будет потом норм переделать все равно да
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[19:16:37] <andrewsh> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/563559_328822870504234_1750900629_n.jpg
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[19:24:44] <cherry_lin> мммм
[19:24:49] <cherry_lin> marker.id не прокатило
[19:24:53] <cherry_lin> зато нашел marker.options.title
[19:24:58] <cherry_lin> этого вполне достаточно
[19:24:58] <cherry_lin> !
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[20:06:41] <az09[home]> andrewsh: интересная проекция... Канада - великая страна!
[20:06:59] <az09[home]> но вообще это видимо глобус австралии?
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[20:28:54] <Mixaill> Круто на Евро :D
[20:31:01] <Mixaill> logger[psha]:
[20:33:16] <psha[work]> cherry_lin: потом тебе же в этом разбираться
[20:33:43] <psha[work]> лучше сразу нормально делай
[20:33:46] <psha[work]> пойду домой пожалуй
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[21:14:10] <gryphon> dezhin: а проблему с поломаными мультиполигонами на границах гислабовских дампов возможно как-то решить?
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[21:20:53] <dezhin> gryphon: о какой проблеме речь?
[21:22:21] <gryphon> dezhin, ну, например, мультиполигон псковского озера в дампах присутствует кусками
[21:23:08] <gryphon> те куски, что в эстонии в дамп, соответсвенно не попали
[21:31:28] <dezhin> хм, может быть внутри local и получиться сделать, а вот то что по границе local рвется не очень понятно как починить
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[21:33:54] <SergeyA> Можно попробовать находить все пересечения с границей обрезки и модифицировать мультиполигон так, чтобы он обрезался по этой границе.
[21:35:05] <dezhin> SergeyA: но тогда придется же виртуальные ноды и веи добавлять
[21:35:19] <SergeyA> Можно ещё создавать модифицированную копию, чтобы не портить оригинальный...
[21:36:08] <dezhin> идеальным бы был вариант, когда тот кто собирает полигон мог бы принять во внимание полигон обрезки и собрать мультиполигоны с учетом его
[21:36:22] <dezhin> с костлайнами проблема аналогичная есть
[21:36:55] <SergeyA> Можно типа препроцессора сделать и запускать его перед конвертерами
[21:38:02] <SergeyA> Или liosha уломать чтобы он это включил в osm2mp, туда где геометрия формируется...
[21:39:17] <dezhin> мне казалось что для костлайном osm2mp на входе полигон обрезки брал
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[22:07:00] <gryphon> скрещивать полигон обрезки с распополамленными полигонами, конечно, логичное решение, вот только не самое простое....
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[22:08:36] <gryphon> нежели osmosis не умеет сохранять полигоны, выходящие за границу обрезки?
[22:13:41] <iav_work> подаааате на дрмики, для бездоооомных поросят
[22:15:27] <dezhin> есть мнение что в свежих версиях умеет, но для обрезки планеты в local с такими параметрами вряд ли на гис-лабе хватит места на ssd
[22:17:32] <gryphon> печально
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[23:07:43] <shurik> AMDmi3: glebius: ImportError: No module named MySQLdb
[23:07:46] <shurik> на воркер1
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[23:42:20] <AMDmi3> вопросы к петону, модуль стоит
[23:45:48] <psha> дык версия может быть не та
[23:45:52] <psha> это же бинарный
[23:45:54] <psha> а не родной
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[23:47:37] <AMDmi3> а так?
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[23:55:41] <AMDmi3> shurik: починилось?
[23:59:12] <shurik> ща узнаем