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[00:07:31] <SergeyA> котоскрепки -
http://cdn-pus-2.pinme.ru/photos/ae1bf34d97a3784dd9977648c7d492b7_b.jpg :)
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[00:32:33] <dezhin> Zverik: все обновлю в ближайшее время
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[01:05:22] <Zverik> забыл+не успел опубликовать новость в штосме. Ну ладно, за это -- офигенные вести из мэпмейкеровского сообщества (старые, ну да кто их читает)
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[09:24:55] <Guest21> скажите, а как называется фишка в freebsd которая по дефолту, если набрать "ssh" и урсором вверх, будет история с этой командой?
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[09:25:51] <ErshKUS[work]> ну вот, теперь нормально, а то гость...
[09:26:16] <ErshKUS[work]> хочу такое включить в убунте
[09:27:40] <ErshKUS[work]> хотябы как её искать
[09:28:46] <psha[work]> zsh
[09:28:47] <psha[work]> )
[09:29:11] <psha[work]> если у тебя баш то попробуй контрол-R
[09:29:15] <psha[work]> и набери ssh
[09:29:31] <psha[work]> последующие нажатия ^R будут искать вверх по истории
[09:29:54] <ErshKUS[work]> а с кнопками курсора в баше такое не сделать?
[09:30:17] <psha[work]> не думаю
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[09:30:38] <psha[work]> а зачем? ctrl-R вполне удобно
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[09:32:09] <ErshKUS[work]> ну в принципе, да. Спасибо
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[09:35:14] <Maks|nord> AMDmi3|work: ну с песком никак не перепутать, песок вот он:
http://чепецк.net/?zoom=15&lat=58.5659&lon=50.01268&layers=BFFFT , а там именно каменистая земля
[09:39:37] <ErshKUS[work]> psha[work]:
http://blog.stfalcon.com/2011/04/nebolshoj-lifehack-dlya-bash/
[09:40:53] <psha[work]> ErshKUS[work]: ну чо, дятла которая не знает про ^R
[09:42:19] <Maks|nord> AMDmi3|work: fell - ключевое значение всё таки земля, вот для scree другой оттенок, серый:
http://чепецк.net/?zoom=14&lat=43.33707&lon=42.47865&layers=BFFFT
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[09:43:24] <psha[work]> Maks|nord: ты не хочешь у себя на карте добавить слой с горизонталями?
[09:43:39] <Maks|nord> psha[work]: он у меня есть :)
[09:43:42] <psha[work]> хде?
[09:43:52] <Maks|nord> только по Вятке :(
[09:44:01] <psha[work]> нублин
[09:44:12] <psha[work]> может на рамблере нагенерить и кинуть?
[09:44:29] <psha[work]> штука нужная и полезная
[09:44:36] <Maks|nord> теперь, когда есть рендер, скорее всего подниму как отдельный слой на всё покрытие
[09:44:58] <psha[work]> причем меняется крайне редко )
[09:45:06] <psha[work]> статику раздавать много ума не надо
[09:45:14] <psha[work]> а профит будет
[09:45:27] <Maks|nord> только придётся вначале генерить длч каждой области отдельно, потому что везде разный шаг сетки нужен
[09:45:44] <psha[work]> длч?
[09:46:39] <Maks|nord> потому что для оей области 10 метров надо, иначе рельефа не видно, для тундры 5 метров, а для эльбруса не менее 25 метров
[09:47:07] <Maks|nord> я пробовал Эльбрус в 10 метров - сплошная закраска получилась
[09:48:56] <psha[work]> в 20 ничо
[09:49:10] <Maks|nord> 20 для кировсской области не катит
[09:50:44] <Maks|nord> http://чепецк.net/?zoom=13&lat=57.58315&lon=49.14297&layers=BFFTT
[09:51:10] <psha[work]> это 10?
[09:51:33] <Maks|nord> да и это самый рельефный участок КО
[09:52:14] <psha[work]> ты обычный дем использовал или второй?
[09:52:47] <Maks|nord> второй
[09:53:08] <Maks|nord> SRTMv3
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[10:05:47] <Maks|nord> psha[work]: я сейчас качаю srtm4.1 в geotiff, чем его в osm перегнать?
[10:06:15] <psha[work]> яхз (
[10:06:26] <old_Bibigon> Maks|nord, gdal_contour -> ogr2osm
[10:06:41] <old_Bibigon> или как шейпы и скармливать
[10:07:57] <Maks|nord> мне всё равно нужно в osm/pbf, я ведь ещё и гарминовскую сборку делаю
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[10:08:58] <old_Bibigon> http://gis-lab.info/qa/ogr2osm.html
[10:09:32] <old_Bibigon> это если осмеры не решили придумать чего-нибудь на дотнете :/
[10:10:01] <Maks|nord> ну я дотнетом и делал 3-й сртм
[10:10:08] <Maks|nord> грондтрутом
[10:10:50] <Maks|nord> но автор переметнудся в четвёртый раз переписывать с нуля своё приложение и назвал его потом маперитивом
[10:11:29] <Maks|nord> правда маперитив нифига не консольная утилита, что сводит его полезность к нулю
[10:18:27] <psha[work]> Maks|nord: можно попросить его сделать режим без гуя
[10:18:46] <psha[work]> так оно вполне может быть консольной - скормил ему скрипт и запустил с -exa
[10:20:08] <Maks|nord> psha[work]: беда в том, что он постоянно с нуля переписывает всё, меняя алгоритмы работы и форматы данных
[10:22:50] <psha[work]> наверно, я то не слежу особо
[10:24:15] <Maks|nord> я боюсь его просить о чём то, когда его попросили сделать гуй к гроундтруту, он заявил, что будет писать всё с нуля, GT не поддерживаетс больше, новый софт будет называться маперитивом
[10:25:26] <psha[work]> исходники к старому то он выдал при этом?
[10:25:32] <psha[work]> когда забросил?
[10:26:12] <psha[work]> ага, вижу
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[10:26:40] <Maks|nord> да и вообще, с самим mono в последнее время какие то непонятные проблемы, Мигель бъётся в истерике и лепит в моно всё подряд со всех доуступных спецификаций дотнета, не исправляя багов, а только "догоняя функционал .net"
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[10:33:44] <Maks|nord> у меня даже евроспорт-плеер перестал работать с последними моно
[10:33:59] <andrewsh> ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
[10:35:03] <Maks|nord> andrewsh: жопа с ушами? ну в принципе да, я такого же мнения о моно
[10:35:52] <andrewsh> не, это башка, руки и выпученные глаза
[10:36:02] <andrewsh> типа, недоумение и плечепожимание
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[10:43:27] <Hind> Ну вот и пошли кривые поверхности сечениями
[10:43:31] <Hind> Норкоманы:
http://openstreetmap.ru/#zoom=18&lat=55.744686&lon=37.605938&layer=MZ
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[10:44:49] <Hind> Где-то у меня валялся инструмент для нарезки 3D-моделей на сечения.. :3
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[10:47:43] <andrewsh> маньяки
[10:48:45] <cherry_l1n> омг
[10:49:23] <andrewsh> только получилось больше похоже на высотку™
[10:49:30] <andrewsh> имхо
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[11:21:28] <Maks|nord> народ, чем можно полистать базу данных в виде .PHD под виндой?
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[11:23:01] <andrewsh> PhD?
[11:25:18] <Maks|nord> Polyhedra
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[11:32:13] <WatchCat> dudka: Привет! Ты кто?..
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[11:35:13] <WatchCat> dudka: Привет! Ты кто?..
[11:35:23] <gryphon> кто-нибудь знает, ежедневные выгрузки на гислабе заработали на постоянной основе или это разовая акция?
[11:45:03] <Mixaill> разовая акция по случаю разового дампа
[11:47:01] <andrewsh> розового дампа
[11:47:20] <gryphon> а я то обрадовался
[11:47:22] <gryphon> наивный
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[11:56:54] <psha[work]> Maks|nord: дамп был от восьмого, а выгрузки есть за 13ое
[11:57:18] <psha[work]> оу
[11:57:19] <psha[work]> нитому
[11:57:20] <psha[work]> Mixaill: ^^
[11:57:26] <psha[work]> или они все же от восьмого тоже?
[11:57:47] <Maks|nord> psha[work]: мне как то перпендикулярно, у меня есть и планета и выгрузка за 15-е :)
[11:59:28] <psha[work]> да про тебя я и так знаю
[11:59:33] <psha[work]> мои правки по витиму показаны
[11:59:42] <psha[work]> но вот валидаторы стоят (
[12:00:41] <Maks|nord> пожалуй да, надо базу рендера подновить сегодняшим дампом
[12:01:03] <Mixaill> psha[work]: таки планета обновлялась 1 апреля, 8 мая и 10 мая
[12:01:55] <psha[work]> Mixaill: 10 мая дамп за 8
[12:02:07] <psha[work]> так что два раза
[12:02:29] <Mixaill> угу
[12:02:56] <psha[work]> а гислаб не хочет/не может брать из redaction-period?
[12:03:07] <psha[work]> там те же самые .osc вроде лежат
[12:03:10] <psha[work]> только нумерация другая
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[12:03:42] <za90> хочу бергштрихи в srtm
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[12:07:56] <za90> ...и шаг сетки чтобы был в названии слоя
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[13:08:36] <WatchCat> mib_9cfhhj: Привет! Ты кто?..
[13:10:46] <za90> лифлет не взлетит в осле 8 ?
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[13:18:05] <Komzpa> za90: у меня в шестом работал
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[13:19:41] <za90> значит трабла в плагине текст-маркер. не появляются маркер, и тень тоже. только надпись
[13:20:31] <za90> Komzpa: а 0.4 ?
[13:21:37] <Mixaill> za90: текст-маркер смотрели только под ИЕ9
[13:22:12] <za90> нужно чтоб в ие8.
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[13:55:19] <za90> psha, так как на счёт ИЕ8? ;-) помоги взлететь LL + твои плагины
[13:57:19] <psha> чотам?
[13:57:51] <za90> в плагине текст-маркер не появляются маркер и тень тоже. только надпись
[13:58:03] <psha> всё ищо?
[13:58:15] <psha> какая-нибудь консоль с ошибками есть?
[13:58:24] <psha> но вообще насколько я понимаю эта фича будет в официальном лифлете
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[14:00:47] <za90> ie8 блин молчит, ни единой ошибочки
[14:01:01] <psha> хм
[14:01:07] <psha> но маркера нету вообще нигде?
[14:01:28] <psha> можешь посмотреть, там вообще есть имг с маркером под дивом с текстом?
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[14:04:47] <za90> что значит "под"? внутри div есть текст и два img
[14:08:05] <psha> ну да, внутри
[14:08:12] <psha> хм, и не показываются?
[14:08:20] <psha> если им поприбивать всякие стилевые фишки?
[14:09:26] <za90> например
[14:10:36] <za90> гы, на первом же position:absolute все маркеры повылезали у левой граници экрана
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[14:21:31] <za90> alpha(opacity=100) убрал и маркер появился
[14:22:36] <psha> а обычные маркеры в ие этом есть вообще?
[14:23:35] <za90> есть
[14:24:42] <psha> а на них эта хрень стоит?
[14:24:43] <psha> алпха?
[14:26:44] <za90> есть :( нипанятна
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[14:39:13] <za90> короче таг
[14:40:30] <za90> скриншот чтоли сделать...
[14:41:30] <za90> дом строится некорректно
[14:42:02] <za90> например style="z-index: 140; filter: alpha(opacity=100); MARGIN-LEFT: -9px; top: 140px; left: 719px; textshadow: 2px 2px 2px #fff;"
[14:42:22] <za90> парсится на 5 элементов
[14:42:31] <za90> z-index: 140;
[14:42:39] <za90> filter: alpha(opacity=100); MARGIN-LEFT: -9px;
[14:42:46] <za90> ^!!!!
[14:43:00] <za90> top: 140px;
[14:43:04] <za90> и далее норм
[14:44:52] <za90> psha: и разница между плагином и самим ЛЛ в том, что ты во все div/img/img дублируешь стиль
[14:45:58] <za90> видимо в исходном случае ИЕ8 полегче это переносит, а когда с инлайн стилем сталкивается, то рисовать перестает сука
[14:52:39] <za90> кстати если этот фильтр убить то маркер не обводится черной траурной каймой. красивше однозначно
[14:54:31] <za90> последовательно: 1. убираю фильтр из div - появляется маркер; 2. убираю фильтр из img - исчезает некрасивая кайма; 3. PROFIT
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[15:06:09] <AMDmi3> Runge: hi
[15:06:33] <Runge> привет
[15:06:47] <AMDmi3> Runge: а слой mapsurfer topographic ещё существует?
[15:07:05] <AMDmi3> хочу вернуть mapsurfer на osm::portal, нужны новые url'ы
[15:08:07] <Runge> слой этот не запущен, поскольку поднять его ресурсов не хватает ((
[15:10:12] <AMDmi3> ok; а обычный -
http://www.openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de ?
[15:11:14] <Maks|nord> воспользовался новым piclayer-ом и готов расцеловать автора привязки по точкам
[15:11:54] <Larry0ua> Maks|nord: нет, спасибо, не надо)
[15:12:09] <Runge> все работающие урлы можно найти на
http://www.openmapsurfer.uni-hd.de/contact.html
[15:12:15] <Larry0ua> вот если бы больше трех точек... не, все равно
[15:14:09] <Runge> AMDmi3: можно еще вот эту
http://lightmap.uni-hd.de/ карту добавить (слой освещения), она на том же сервере рендерится
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[16:19:09] <tdyoma> народ, можно как-то в JOSM загрузить все треки которые есть в базе OSM, по некоторой области?
[16:19:52] <old_Bibigon> tdyoma, при загрузке тычки "вместе с треками" мало?
[16:21:57] <tdyoma> спасибо, пока только разбираюсь с системой
[16:25:46] <Zverik> «Интеграционная платформа должна содержать средства физического, логического и семантического характера»
[16:26:05] <Zverik> (читаю статью по нашей гис с работы — пытаются убедить сделать второй доклад на конференции)
[16:27:04] <old_Bibigon> tdyoma, josm.ru и
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:JOSM/Guide
[16:35:03] <psha> эта, бинговское покрытие надо в какое-то отношение добавлять?
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[16:38:03] <old_Bibigon> psha, раньше были какие-то, но сейчас вроде забили
[16:38:12] <old_Bibigon> да и список на вики был :/
[16:38:32] <old_Bibigon> фш вики список bing
[16:38:33] <WatchCat> old_Bibigon: RU:Bing - OpenStreetMap Wiki: <
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Bing>; RU:Ханты-Мансийский автономный округ - Югра ...: (4 more messages)
[16:39:30] <psha> типа написали то нефиг
[16:39:36] <psha> буржуи, уууу
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[16:42:41] <Zverik> psha: ты покрытие можешь обрисовать в
http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/
[16:47:57] <Larry0ua> у этого сайта тайлы тоже кешируются и не так часто обновляются на меньших зумах?
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[16:49:01] <Larry0ua> или там открывая локацию ты сам заполняешь покрытие?
[16:50:42] <Zverik> сам заполняешь
[16:52:06] <psha> круто
[16:52:14] <psha> но там охренеть можно проручивать )
[16:52:51] <Larry0ua> да, им явно не хватает короткого описания прямо при открытии )))
[16:53:56] <psha> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/163705413
[16:54:08] <psha> извиняйте, я опухну это смотреть на карте
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[16:59:27] <WatchCat> Str_gorod: Привет! Ты кто?..
[16:59:48] <Str_gorod> привет
[17:03:05] <Str_gorod> подскажите как экспортировать данные из карт openstreetmap , раньше была функция но недавно убрали.. слышал она на другом сайте а каком не знаю
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[17:03:47] <old_Bibigon> Str_gorod, в куда экспортировать?
[17:04:09] <Str_gorod> ну я хотел в изображение
[17:04:28] <Str_gorod> там можно было в векторный формат выгрузить, а сейчас закрыли
[17:05:07] <psha> Export -> Map Image
[17:05:08] <psha> не?
[17:06:12] <Str_gorod> а вроде разобрался SVG
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[17:11:59] <psha> пишут что платный кусок на М4 доделали
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[18:49:47] <iav_work> напомните мне, котики - с гуглострит вьюва можно знаки и таблички списывать?
[18:49:58] <iav_work> а то в моём городе он появилсо
[18:51:21] <Mixaill> Гугл - не яндекс =(
[18:51:44] <iav_work> тонкое наблюдение.
[18:52:35] <Mixaill> да, я сам КО =)
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[19:05:27] <Komzpa> iav_work: "можно чуть-чуть"
[19:06:27] <iav_work> на пол шишечки
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[19:14:01] <loir> други, а кто что скажет по поводу фотоаппаратов с GPS? типа Nikon Coolpix AW100. а то умерла после продолжительной болезни мыльница
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[19:18:53] <Zverik> loir: купи, расскажешь потом :)
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[19:26:31] <psha> loir: он же батарейку жрать будет с лютой скоростью
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[19:32:56] <loir> psha, а лучше сядет фотоаппарат, чем телефон
[19:33:16] <psha> спорно )
[19:35:43] <loir> нененене, если сядет телефон в разгар рабочей поездки, скажем, во Ржев, есть шанс там остаться :)
[19:37:56] <AMDmi3|work> фотик нужен разве что с компасом; фотки если что можно к треку привязать, а от нормального gps он всяко лучше будет
[19:38:57] <loir> в никоне есть
[19:39:44] <loir> "Встроенная система GPS, электронный компас и карта мира позволят добавлять к изображениям геотеги, ориентироваться на местности и следить за маршрутом в пути"
[19:39:56] <loir> навител поставить бы :))
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[19:47:28] <psha> Maks|nord: у тебя дневной дифф накатывается?
[19:47:33] <psha> или почаще?
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[20:12:17] <psha> сделать что-ль трассировщик речек...
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[20:50:04] <psha> Hind: туд?
[20:53:38] <iav_work> плавучий самовыковыривающийся из сетвей робот-трассировщик речек
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[21:04:21] <old_Bibigon> грабящий караваны барж
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[21:05:52] <Mixaill> севших на мель
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[21:59:17] <az09[home]> https://plus.google.com/118218613963548998586/posts/QAtEcfpMgk1
[21:59:49] <az09[home]> psha: Белорецк выходит на международную арену!11
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[22:00:41] <WatchCat> DMopo3: Привет! Ты кто?..
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[22:03:46] <Maks|nord> ура, кор-порево-тивная карта почти готова
[22:04:49] <Maks|nord> ещё завтра по чепыжнику прогуляться, триангуляры отбить в осм
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[22:07:03] <psha> а е
[22:08:14] <psha> az09[home]: :)
[22:08:17] <psha> а е
[22:08:22] <psha> я сделал свой первый жосмплугин
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[22:11:32] <iav_work> psha, хвались подробнее
[22:11:55] <iav_work> что такое чепыжник?
[22:12:52] <psha> iav_work: затопление по srtm
[22:12:58] <psha> собственно затоплялка не моя
[22:13:04] <psha> а Завьяловская
[22:13:06] <iav_work> эээ... что?
[22:13:31] <iav_work> ни слова не понял :(
[22:13:38] <iav_work> Штирлиц топил камин..
[22:13:40] <psha> тычеш точку, вытягиваются SRTM данные, по рельефу трассируются реки
[22:13:49] <iav_work> ааа :)
[22:13:52] <iav_work> круто
[22:14:07] <iav_work> норазве в srtm точность не километровая?
[22:14:15] <psha> достаточная
[22:14:31] <psha> в горах более чем
[22:15:20] <Maks|nord> iav_work: чепыжник он повыше богульника, но поменьше коряжника будет
[22:15:50] <iav_work> просто я сегодня встретил это слово на ютубе в каментах к лесовозу среди коров
[22:16:07] <iav_work> а до того встречал его только в стихах Винокура, и больше нигде никогда
[22:16:11] <Komzpa> psha: douglas peucker плачет по ним
[22:16:20] <Maks|nord> *чапыжник
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[22:17:02] <iav_work> и в стихах тех контекст располагал считать это слово просто придуманным для смха
[22:17:16] <psha> про точность
[22:17:20] <psha> Komzpa: не то слово )
[22:17:43] <iav_work> получается, слово есть, и что-то значит
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[22:17:49] <Maks|nord> iav_work: болотный кустарник такой, образует почти доминирующий покров заполярной тундры
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[22:18:04] <iav_work> psha: выглядит круто
[22:18:22] <Komzpa> psha: отлично, теперь вот этот маршрут надо как-то просто притянуть к контуру, видимому на снимке
[22:18:24] <iav_work> спасибо
[22:18:27] <Komzpa> примагнитить или ещё как
[22:19:08] <iav_work> а как он выбирает, по какой впадине, собственно, пускать ручей? по тычку мыши?
[22:19:15] <psha> угу
[22:19:23] <psha> а дальше разбегается во все сторон
[22:19:28] <psha> вверх в смысле
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[22:19:50] <iav_work> хм
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[22:20:01] <iav_work> убьёшься ж резать. а низ не логичнее?
[22:20:45] <psha> эм
[22:20:50] <psha> в низ оно до окияна попрется )
[22:20:59] <psha> а вверх до 2к стоит ограничение
[22:20:59] <Komzpa> так оно так и надо!
[22:21:08] <Komzpa> до окиана
[22:21:17] <psha> эм, это Тува )
[22:21:24] <psha> там до окияна несколько неблизко )
[22:21:47] <psha> вас двоих вместе взятых можно будет там раз десять уложить )
[22:22:29] <Maks|nord> наличие рельефа - ещё не обязательно что там ручей пойдёт
[22:22:36] <psha> Maks|nord: конечно
[22:22:43] <psha> никто и не собирается это всё лить в осм
[22:23:10] <psha> но помощь вполне
[22:23:24] <psha> хотя соблазн есть ;)
[22:24:14] <iav_work> ящетаю, надо лить
[22:24:24] <iav_work> где нету - жильцы почистят
[22:24:32] <psha> ну это не совсем правильно
[22:25:03] <psha> с другой стороны про какие-то точно можно сказать что там есть вода )
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[22:30:37] <psha> Komzpa: а в жосме кроме Шыфт-У есть что-нибудь для сглаживания?
[22:31:25] <Komzpa> плагин был, simplifyarea
[22:35:42] <psha> в общем по хорошем надо там пару фильтров переписать с перла на питон и будет щастье
[22:40:03] <Maks|nord> 3 ГБ на флешку уже сутки копируется
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