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[01:21:29] <SergeyA> http://csbigroup.ru/?p=1015 Велика вероятность, что мы будем СКАТ в московии внедрять. :)
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[02:06:51] <WatchCat> cherry_l1n: Привет! Ты кто?..
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[02:37:32] <cherry_l1n> D;
[02:37:39] <cherry_l1n> я расстроена
[02:37:42] <cherry_l1n> !
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[09:03:18] <bim2010> http://nnm-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=492027
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[09:48:01] <Maks|nord> утро, что ли
[09:48:36] <Maks|nord> как же сложно расширить дисковое пространство на сервере, когда он за 2 тысячи км и никого там нет рядом
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[10:19:12] <Maks|nord> интересно, не проще ли будет загнать всю планету в postgis базу и уже туда накладывать osc посуточные
[10:20:05] <Maks|nord> применение небольшого файла изменений явно быстрее, чем переписывание всей планеты в виде файла каждый раз на дискк
[10:20:09] <Maks|nord> *диске
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[10:44:01] <Maks|nord> дайте ссылку на место где ммного area:hw есть
[10:53:41] <Maks|nord> в Минске не увидел, поищем в Питере
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[10:59:26] <Maks|nord> http://чепецк.net/?zoom=17&lat=59.99819&lon=30.36402&layers=BFFFT
[11:00:31] <Maks|nord> вертолёт там памятник, интересно, или просто на стоянке? :)
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[12:17:57] <glebius> до июньской осмовки в Рамблере остаётся меньше месяца кстати
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[13:14:06] <SergeyA> Maks|nord: тут есть area:hw -
http://чепецк.net/?zoom=17&lat=59.84367&lon=30.32295&layers=BFFFT
[13:44:46] <Komzpa> https://www.facebook.com/darafei/posts/436259286403308
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[13:49:42] <Maks|nord> Komzpa: есть набор отрезков с barrier=city_wall, не замкнутые, просто отрезки. теги на самих линиях естественно. Один отрезок взят в мультиполигон у которого в тегах только имя. При заливке в pgsql city_wall естественно автоматом распространилось на этот полигон. Как этог
[13:50:09] <Maks|nord> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1360698
[13:50:44] <Maks|nord> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/93670589
[13:51:18] <Komzpa> Maks|nord: ты написал слишком длинную фразу и она пришла мне битым юникотом
[13:51:38] <Maks|nord> Komzpa: есть набор отрезков с barrier=city_wall, не замкнутые, просто отрезки. теги на самих
[13:51:45] <Maks|nord> линиях естественно. Один отрезок взят в мультиполигон у которого в тегах только имя. При заливке в
[13:51:51] <Maks|nord> pgsql city_wall естественно автоматом распространилось на этот полигон. Как этого избежать?
[13:52:13] <Maks|nord> и две ссылки, на релейшен и на один из outer-лв
[13:52:13] <Komzpa> чинить osm2pgsql
[13:52:33] <Komzpa> чтобы он брал не сумму всех тегов с линий, а только общие на всех линиях
[13:52:48] <Maks|nord> есть готовый патч?
[13:52:54] <Komzpa> нет, хочу
[13:53:03] <Maks|nord> понятно
[13:55:08] <Maks|nord> плохо, баг то явный
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[13:56:14] <Maks|nord> теперь у меня внутри кремля есть ещё один кремль
[13:56:22] <Maks|nord> прямо китайский запретный город
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[15:20:51] <glebius> вам котэ:
http://www.forumbgz.ru/user/upload/file452601.jpg
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[15:53:16] <WatchCat> unnicked929: Привет! Ты кто?..
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[19:15:27] <andrewsh> Komzpa:
http://bit.ly/J2WDmt
[19:29:54] <SergeyA> andrewsh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68qZ8JvBds
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[21:41:51] <Mixailll> это же канал об аниме?
[21:41:53] <Mixailll> как из tzdata вытянуть что-то похожее на "'Europe/Minsk','UTC+3','Minsk'"
[21:42:13] <Mixailll> т.е. вообще получить что-то текстовое
[21:42:24] <Mixailll> без смс и программирования
[21:44:42] <SergeyA> Вытянуть где и куда? :)
[21:46:17] <Mixailll> из tzdata в .txt
[21:46:40] <jekhor> посмотри man zic, может, чего и найдёшь
[21:47:04] <jekhor> хотя это компилятор...
[21:48:19] <jekhor> ну или на zdump посмотри
[21:49:05] <jekhor> хотя не, тоже не то
[21:50:59] <jekhor> Mixailll, чего ты нам дуришь голову, tzdata же в текстовом формате.
[21:52:58] <jekhor> ну только сложно выцепить действующее на данный момент...
[21:53:08] <jekhor> *смещение
[21:53:40] <Mixailll> а ведь точно, с чего это я думал, что оно бинарное =\
[21:54:30] <Mixailll> действующее идет последним вроде как
[21:55:22] <SergeyA> На java сделать вывод в нужном формате займёт строчек 5 от силы. tzdata там уже встроенное. А вот как это сделать без программирования... :)
[21:56:02] <jekhor> да, только там всякие правила перехода на летнее время хитро задаются
[21:56:24] <jekhor> а так... Простейший конечный автоматик для парсинга --- и всё.
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[21:56:51] <Mixailll> DST не нужен
[21:57:23] <Mixailll> с принципе все. Всем спасибо.
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[21:58:05] <iav_work> господа жосмоделы? а как бы получить эту сборку
https://github.com/Gnonthgol/JOSM-continuos-download/issues/1#issuecomment-5546880
[22:12:43] <SergeyA> iav_work: По идее досточно просто обновить плугин.
[22:13:01] <iav_work> а собрать?
[22:13:31] <SergeyA> Так уже вроде собрано:
https://github.com/Gnonthgol/JOSM-continuos-download/downloads
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[22:59:42] <SergeyA> В новостях написали, что ленобласти тут мост обвалился. Некоторые СМИ договорились даже до того, что обрушился мост трассы Питер-Киев:
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/295817/
[23:01:26] <SergeyA> А на самом деле это мост в другом месте -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=43131515 Он в аварийном состоянии уже много лет. Так он выглядел 4 года назад -
http://fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:232761
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[23:23:00] <jekhor> Сколько ж ему лет, болезному, было...
[23:24:03] <jekhor> но НТВ отожгло :)
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[23:30:08] <Komzpa> а давайте что ли все расскажут, правильно ли им проложило маршрут
http://openstreetmap.by/?zoom=15&lat=53.87477&lon=27.65252&via=0.000000,0.000000;27.650614,53.869281&vehicle=bike
[23:30:51] <trolleway> Для машины, или велосипеда
[23:31:03] <Komzpa> вылысыпеда, иссесна
[23:31:33] <Komzpa> trolleway: интересует в первую очередь точка "от"
[23:32:10] <trolleway> Сразу же неправильно - в тоннель на велосипеде заехать невозможно, очень большое движение. Там по-любому надо обносить через подземный переход
[23:32:33] <jekhor> Komzpa, а там где-то прокладывается маршрут?
[23:32:39] <jekhor> я только маркер вижу
[23:33:03] <Komzpa> jekhor: а какой, прямоугольный или круглый?
[23:33:24] <jekhor> А, shift-reload
[23:33:33] <Komzpa> trolleway: где именно "сразу же"?
[23:33:46] <trolleway> Через 200 метров
[23:34:07] <Komzpa> trolleway: через двести метров откуда?
[23:34:17] <jekhor> а в том месте на Радиальной, где угол дома торчит, точно есть тротуар? :)
[23:35:06] <trolleway> Потом какие-то непонятные кругаля перед Шмидтовским проездом. Я бы повернул налево на Новый Арбат, и поехал бы по Кутузовскому до МКАДа
[23:35:18] <jekhor> а вообще, через дворовый проезд наверняка фиш проедешь
[23:35:43] <Komzpa> trolleway: ты, видимо, не понял. ссылка волшебная, всем по-разному прокладывает
[23:35:52] <jekhor> гм
[23:36:01] <jekhor> точки же вроде в ссылке забиты, не?
[23:36:10] <Komzpa> посмотри внимательно :3
[23:36:13] <trolleway> хм
[23:36:44] <jekhor> Komzpa, мне оно от твоего дома прокладывает куда-то на Омельянюка
[23:36:58] <Komzpa> jekhor: браузер?
[23:37:05] <Komzpa> jekhor: разрешил геолокейшен?
[23:37:08] <jekhor> iceweasel
[23:37:10] <trolleway> А мне от метро Смоленская в Москвке до твоего дома
[23:37:12] <jekhor> а где его разрешать?
[23:37:23] <jekhor> никаких сообщений об этом на странице нет
[23:37:56] <Komzpa> jekhor: должна вверху панель всплыть, "страница хотит узнать ваше местоположение, разрешить?"
[23:38:38] <jekhor> нету такого
[23:39:45] <Komzpa> jekhor: а если третью кнопку на панельке нажать?
[23:39:58] <Komzpa> плюс-минус-кружок, которая
[23:40:02] <jekhor> ну и при нажатии на волшебную кнопочку "Locate me!" оно меня на Омельянюка, 7 и кидает
[23:40:24] <jekhor> да, твой дом --- финиш таки, а Омельянюка --- старт
[23:40:52] <Komzpa> гугл просто считает, что в омельянюка, 7 центр минска
[23:40:59] <jekhor> :))))))))))))))))))))))))
[23:41:11] <jekhor> геолокацию им делаешь, что ли?
[23:41:23] <Komzpa> нет, я на него фоллбек делаю
[23:41:37] <Komzpa> он точнее, чем геоип, но всё равно косячит
[23:41:59] <jekhor> кстати, а браузеры не умеют вытаскивать для геолокации данные из гугловой базы про wi-fi?
[23:42:11] <Komzpa> у меня хром так и делает
[23:42:21] <jekhor> ну то хром
[23:42:25] <jekhor> а нормальные?
[23:42:29] <Komzpa> что работу, что дом локейтит до пары десятков метров
[23:42:34] <iav_work> po povodu urla - mne narisovala mashrut ot rigi
[23:44:23] <Komzpa> jekhor: iceweasel рисует от интернациональной, 25
[23:44:55] <andrewsh> а я сегодня сходил в местный урад, где мне выдали здоровенный план городка
[23:44:58] <andrewsh> со всеми домами
[23:45:01] <andrewsh> и их номерами
[23:45:05] <andrewsh> и улицами
[23:45:10] <andrewsh> и я всё отфотил
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[23:45:33] <iav_work> Komzpa, a nelza li gde-to v ugolke pisat datu dannyh routinga?
[23:46:02] <Komzpa> iav_work: нельзя, соответствует гислабовской СНГ
[23:46:40] <Komzpa> обновление теоретически ежедневное, на практике заморозилось понятно почему
[23:46:57] <iav_work> i routing ezednevno?
[23:47:39] <Komzpa> роутинг ежедневно, чаще не получается
[23:48:28] <iav_work> nu... drigie 1-2 rza v god
[23:48:43] <iav_work> и то пока пропинаешь
[23:49:51] <Komzpa> у меня не планета, мне можно
[23:49:59] <andrewsh> что прикольно, что мне сказали, "оо, а тут как раз неделю назад гугловцы приходили..."
[23:50:35] <iav_work> andrewsh: но ведь дома к улицам там не привязаны?
[23:50:45] <andrewsh> в смысле?
[23:51:02] <iav_work> у нас так импортировали всю Юрамлу с адресами... циферки в генплане на домиках есть. а улиц-то нету!
[23:51:08] <iav_work> Юрмалу
[23:51:14] <andrewsh> iav_work:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-iKFElxyA1t8/T6gnLFl7eOI/AAAAAAAAHpw/LNlMUFEM-3Y/s1600/DSCF9404.JPG
[23:51:26] <iav_work> в итоге стопицот неполных адресов
[23:51:33] <Komzpa> jekhor:
http://support.mozilla.org/ru/questions/773248
[23:51:54] <Komzpa> фокс умеет сразу gpsd
[23:52:03] <iav_work> о, знаменитая адресация подъездов?
[23:52:43] <jekhor> Komzpa, для этого надо иметь gps
[23:52:50] <andrewsh> iav_work: ну да
[23:53:45] <jekhor> Firefox 3.5 includes support for locating you based on your WiFi information using Google Location Services.
[23:54:34] <andrewsh> iav_work: единственное, что номера домов не все
[23:55:15] <iav_work> ну так к улицам-то как привязывать - интуицией.
[23:55:24] <andrewsh> т.е. есть popisné čislo, а orientačné čislo отсутствует
[23:55:35] <andrewsh> второе --- номер дома по улице
[23:55:42] <andrewsh> в простых случаях оно очевидно
[23:55:51] <andrewsh> в непростых, очевидно, неочевидно :)
[23:56:23] <iav_work> когда улицы короткие, или структура их - прямоуольная сетка, то нет
[23:56:31] <andrewsh> хотя
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[23:56:40] <andrewsh> тут смешанные какие-то
[23:56:59] <andrewsh> не
[23:57:16] <andrewsh> а ещё тут гидранты отмечены
[23:57:22] <iav_work> а что, электронно у вас этого же самого нет?
[23:57:33] <andrewsh> т.е. это карта для "гасичоу", т.е. пожарных
[23:57:33] <iav_work> пдфом
[23:57:48] <andrewsh> iav_work: у них есть страшный ч0рный гис
[23:57:57] <andrewsh> из которого можно было бы экспортировать
[23:58:08] <iav_work> небось, микростайшон
[23:58:16] <andrewsh> но дядька, который со мной общался, сослался на огромное количество работы
[23:58:27] <andrewsh> и потому решили обойтись этим
[23:58:35] <andrewsh> есть, вообще говоря, kataster portal
[23:58:37] <iav_work> засранцi
[23:58:43] <andrewsh> но работает он только в IE6
[23:59:01] <andrewsh> т.е. даже у сотрудников кадастра, у которых я сегодня тоже был, он не открывается
