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[00:41:24] <XXCoder> sliptonic: figured it out?
[00:41:42] <sliptonic> XXCoder: Oh?
[00:42:11] <XXCoder> that home issue
[00:43:00] <sliptonic> You have my undivided attention.
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[00:43:39] <XXCoder> I'm asking you lol
[00:44:30] <sliptonic> No. Not at all. I was hoping you brought a beacon of light that would illuminate the darkness for me.
[00:44:46] <XXCoder> well i might have idea on testing some stuff, no hard answer
[00:45:01] <XXCoder> check difference between command to home one axis and its auto home all
[00:45:08] <XXCoder> see if it goes too far on auto
[00:45:50] <sliptonic> Nope. Even with the Z half way down its travel, it gets the following error within half a second of starting the home seek move.
[00:46:08] <sliptonic> Solo homing, of course works wherever its at.
[00:46:14] <XXCoder> lol this sound stupid but.. is it moving in correct direction?
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[00:46:23] <sliptonic> Yes
[00:46:31] <XXCoder> if it moves to home and it turns wrong way it would error out not following probably
[00:46:48] <XXCoder> or reading wrong way
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[00:47:33] <sliptonic> Thats an interesting point. I'll have to look closer. I'm 99.8% certain its moving in the same direction with both methods but the error happens so fast, I could be mistaken.
[00:48:02] <XXCoder> yeah either its coded to go wrong way, or correct direction but its set to detect motion in ither way
[00:48:09] <XXCoder> dunno, lol
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[06:01:46] <wholepair> howdie! I just dropped in to share 2 things -
[06:02:25] <wholepair> This:
http://www.vagrearg.org/content/gcmc -
[06:02:56] <wholepair> & This:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/447825760/gravity-wave-commemorative-memento
[06:05:02] <XXCoder> I dont quite get kickstarter
[06:05:53] <XXCoder> ahh
[06:07:38] <XXCoder> wholepair: gcmc looks nice though
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[06:19:20] <archivist> long before gcmc was available I got used to doing stuff directly in gcode :)
[06:19:34] <XXCoder> I'm quite good on inkscape
[06:19:42] <XXCoder> I might use it for basic stuff
[06:20:32] <archivist> it is for mathematical shapes like my gears
[06:23:12] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/mirror/Brexit.jpg
[06:26:00] <XXCoder> bricking it up
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[06:36:21] <roycroft> #regrexit is growing rapidly
[06:37:59] <XXCoder> whats tht channel for
[06:38:06] <roycroft> not a channel
[06:38:09] <roycroft> a twitter hashtag
[06:38:14] <XXCoder> ah
[06:38:36] <roycroft> there's a petition to redo the referendum
[06:39:14] <XXCoder> I hear its huge mess
[06:39:25] <XXCoder> usa really sucks on international news
[06:39:50] <roycroft> apparently a lot of people woke up on friday and went "holy shit! it actually passed! i didn't think my protest vote would mean anything!"
[06:40:09] <archivist> the EU needed a wake up, it got it
[06:40:30] <roycroft> not the most desirable way to effect that
[06:40:36] <roycroft> but i can't disagree that a wakeup was needed
[06:40:37] <XXCoder> few low-brain people commented on that
[06:40:42] <XXCoder> made me laugh
[06:41:17] <roycroft> david cameron's legacy - the man who destroyed the eu and broke up the uk
[06:41:34] <roycroft> that's what will happen if this doesn't get fixed
[06:41:41] <archivist> we joined the common market, we did not jojn to get bossed about and pay loads of money to keep Greece afloat
[06:41:48] <XXCoder> that the new british pm?
[06:41:59] <roycroft> that's the soon-to-be-retired pm
[06:42:09] <roycroft> archivist: the common market made a lot of sense
[06:42:14] <roycroft> the euro zero sense
[06:42:24] <roycroft> at least the uk was smart enough to stay out of the eurozone
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[06:42:35] <roycroft> but the euro is still affecting the uk
[06:43:06] <roycroft> what kind of a moron devises a scheme to create a common currency without a common economic policy?
[06:43:13] <roycroft> who thought that would ever work?
[06:43:17] <XXCoder> I can't imange what it is like there, with so many countries neighbors
[06:43:20] <roycroft> and who is surprised that it didn't work?
[06:43:32] <XXCoder> here we got mexico and canadian
[06:43:34] <XXCoder> canada
[06:43:38] <roycroft> xxcoder: it's kind of like states of the us now
[06:43:44] <roycroft> sort of
[06:43:48] <XXCoder> interesting
[06:43:59] <roycroft> but it's weird
[06:44:04] <roycroft> and the uk especially weird
[06:44:11] <roycroft> the uk is not part of the shengen zone nor the eurozone
[06:44:20] <roycroft> yet the uk is affected by both
[06:44:38] <XXCoder> british leaving will effect usa
[06:44:43] <roycroft> now the city of london wants to become a city-state
[06:44:45] <XXCoder> ecomony is so interconnected now
[06:44:55] <XXCoder> *affect
[06:45:04] <roycroft> will we see a new kingdom of mercia next?
[06:45:21] <roycroft> scotland is on the way out
[06:45:28] <XXCoder> roycroft: closest thing to might happen is texas leaving here
[06:45:43] <roycroft> only days after the referendum and 59% of scots are in favor of leaving
[06:45:46] <XXCoder> the "big everything but... " texas
[06:46:11] <roycroft> northern ireland are making noises about reconciling with the irish republic
[06:46:38] <roycroft> and if the eton boys running the country keep running around like mindless twits even wales will want out
[06:47:09] <roycroft> we had a sextit once
[06:47:12] <roycroft> that didn't go so well
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[06:47:35] <roycroft> i wouldn't mind a texit :)
[06:47:42] <roycroft> or a flexit
[06:48:08] <roycroft> as long as we send cruz and rubio home first
[06:48:50] <XXCoder> sex tit :P
[06:49:21] <roycroft> you know, the great unpleasntness
[06:49:28] <roycroft> unpleasantness
[06:50:10] <XXCoder> the larger part of my concern about brits leaving is that it might stall ecogical improvement programs
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[06:53:16] <roycroft> if an independent scotland are able to remain in or join the eu, they might rebuild hadrian's wall
[06:53:27] <roycroft> and if they do it using roman building techniques they might get the eu to pay for it
[06:53:46] <XXCoder> whats that wall for
[06:53:56] <XXCoder> is it same reason trump wants that stupid wall?
[06:54:03] <roycroft> to keep the scots out of roman-occupied england originally
[06:54:10] <roycroft> but now it would be to keep the brits out of scotland
[06:54:55] <roycroft> but that was a joke
[06:55:09] <roycroft> in truth i don't think scotland would want any kind of formal border enforcement with england
[06:55:22] <roycroft> the opposite is not true
[06:56:36] <roycroft> archivist is exactly correct that the eu needed a wake up, but that's not why the referendum passed
[06:56:49] <roycroft> what put it over the top was racism and xenophobia
[06:57:06] <XXCoder> I heard a little bit about syrans immgrants yeah
[06:57:14] <roycroft> just as trump is bringing out the worst of the us, nigel farage did the same in the uk
[06:57:23] <XXCoder> thats why its majority of older people that voted that way?
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[06:57:39] <roycroft> 75% of youth voted remain
[06:58:35] <roycroft> i don't think that racism was the primary reason for passage
[06:58:39] <roycroft> i think it's what put it over the thop
[06:58:40] <roycroft> top
[06:58:53] <roycroft> i think a lot of brits are frustrated with both the eu and their own government
[06:59:33] <roycroft> why they elected a majority tory government i do not understand, and i say that knowing what a weak leader ed milliband was
[06:59:55] <XXCoder> so much trouble
[07:00:06] <XXCoder> its always easier to go for low, like trump is doing
[07:00:07] <roycroft> yes, and it's still so unsettled
[07:00:15] <XXCoder> hatred
[07:00:16] <roycroft> and will be for a long time
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[07:07:27] <Deejay> moin
[07:07:48] <XXCoder> hey
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[09:46:51] <jthornton> morning
[09:47:20] <Deejay> yo
[09:47:48] <XXCoder> yos'
[09:48:00] <Deejay> ^^
[09:50:10] <jthornton> windoze is starting to get annoying about 10
[09:50:44] <XXCoder> thats why I moved on
[09:51:26] <jthornton> to?
[09:51:34] <XXCoder> linux
[09:52:11] <jthornton> everything I have is linux except my solidworks computer and sw won't run on linux
[09:52:37] <XXCoder> I wonder if they are now considering moving to linux
[09:52:47] <XXCoder> win10 being forced on us
[09:53:33] <jthornton> they don't bother my xp
[09:54:03] <malcom2073> jthornton: Disable automatic updates, no more notifications
[09:54:27] <XXCoder> actually it will still annoy
[09:54:38] <malcom2073> Mine doesn't
[09:54:40] <XXCoder> windows 7 once you install certain patch it will
[09:54:51] <malcom2073> Ah heh, well I likley didn't install that patch then
[09:54:54] <malcom2073> likely*
[09:54:58] <jthornton> not true, I never allow auto updates and I get notifications 6-8 times a day now
[09:55:29] <XXCoder> microsoft rolled all of it in service pack
[09:55:35] <XXCoder> so I cant get windows 7 without it now
[09:55:37] <jthornton> maybe reinstall win7 and don't get any updates
[09:55:42] <XXCoder> thankfully I have it
[09:55:49] <XXCoder> jthornton: yeah it'd have to be
[09:56:07] <XXCoder> jthornton: I bet there is download places for service pack 1
[09:57:35] <jthornton> I think I'll toss a hard drive in and find out
[09:58:16] <malcom2073> afaik, MSDN still has SP1
[09:59:18] <malcom2073> Though I wouldn't be shocked if that disappears at some point
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[10:37:41] <jthornton> just downloaded sp1 and the installer
[10:37:51] <XXCoder> nice
[10:37:59] <XXCoder> hopefully it does not include any oatches after
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[10:39:39] <jthornton> ain't but one way to find out lol
[10:39:47] <XXCoder> indeed.
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[11:22:14] <Tom_itx> jthornton, run this and you won't get any more 10 reminders:
http://download.cnet.com/GWX-Control-Panel/3000-18513_4-76476409.html
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[11:31:26] <jthornton> got a uBlock warning on that download link
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[11:34:38] <Tom_itx> i could post it if you want
[11:34:55] <jthornton> I downloaded it
[11:34:59] <Tom_itx> oh
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[11:41:00] <jthornton> off to put as much of the ole hoe back together as possible
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[11:57:35] <JT-Shop> well the hoe has one old tire left and it's flat this morning
[11:57:41] <JT-Shop> does it never end?
[11:57:58] <MacGalempsy> nope
[11:58:13] <MacGalempsy> thats why it is exciting
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[12:14:32] <jdh> pretty sad to have to blow up your hoe every day
[12:15:20] * Jymmm high fives jdh
[12:16:22] <jdh> perhaps it is tine to invest in a higher class hoe
[12:17:04] <Jymmm> Blow your ho... Um isn't that what the johns do? Oh wait... JT-Shop... yeah, never mind.
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[12:18:45] <Jymmm> jdh: But he's out there in the boonies. I think he said his neighbor is 80 something. I'm thinking the hoe class is soemwhat limited.
[12:19:29] <jdh> check craigslist
[12:20:10] <Jymmm> But, could diversify... You got your hoe, back hoe, front loader...
[12:20:49] <Jymmm> Ah yes, cl... good point, but I'm not thinking cl = higher clas, though I could be wrong.
[12:22:21] <jdh> it's al relative
[12:22:40] <jdh> or out there, maybe relatives
[12:23:16] <Jymmm> just keeping it in the family huh?
[12:25:46] <JT-Shop> and it's a blow out so I can't use air to raise the axle up enough to get a bottle jack under it...
[12:27:00] <jdh> shovel?
[12:28:15] <archivist> lever under the axle to get it up a bit
[12:35:24] <jdh> rent a crane, pick it up.
[12:38:52] <archivist> he has enough tractors and toys to make a 3 leg lifting device
[12:40:56] <jdh> that doesn't sound like as much fun
[12:49:22] <archivist> I had a flat tire on a main road, stopped in a layby no jack and only an adjustable spanner, some head scratching, drove over the kerb use the spanner handle to ding under the wheel leaving the suspension on the kerb
[12:49:42] <archivist> ding/dig
[12:51:32] <archivist> some hoes can jack themselves anyway
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[13:13:19] <Frank_11> JT-Shop: sorry to bother, you around?? about to make an order and i need to know if u can make it arrive before the 4th of july. Thank you very much
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[14:27:30] <Polymorphism> failed to fix the ballscrew
[14:27:34] <Polymorphism> tried for more hours
[14:27:44] <Polymorphism> purchasing a new one from george, waiting for some details
[14:27:55] <Polymorphism> it ended up jammed and I can't even take it apart now
[14:28:00] <Polymorphism> plus I think bearings may be permanently lost
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[15:56:05] <CaptHindsight> probably never cashed
http://free.bridal-shower-themes.com/img/h/o/how-to-write-a-cheque-in-uk_3.jpg
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[16:11:07] <FloppyDisk> Nice check...
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[16:54:50] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazak-Slant-Turn-35-ATC-MC-Automatic-Tool-Changer-CNC-Lathe-1988-/322164550272 this has been available for 6 months
[16:57:22] <pcw_home> not garage size
[16:57:47] <CaptHindsight> they have the same one without leaky seals for ~$11k
[16:59:13] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazak-VTC-16B-Vertical-Machining-Center-/351767916493 $2500
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[17:01:26] <gregcnc> www.ebay.com/itm/182183776666
https://youtu.be/weQkUHbr-Ww
[17:03:11] <gregcnc> http://www.inc.com/john-brandon/the-slow-sad-and-ultimately-predictable-decline-of-3d-printing.html
[17:03:37] <CaptHindsight> "haters going to hate"
[17:04:08] <CaptHindsight> "stupidity is infinite"
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[17:06:22] <CaptHindsight> "don't confuse facts with popular opinion"
[17:12:06] <FloppyDisk> Soo... I sold a power supply to my old anilam crusader M control and ebay seller/buyer highendtooling w/ 1007 reviews wants to send a check?
[17:12:09] <FloppyDisk> Hunh?
[17:12:58] <CaptHindsight> odd
[17:13:19] <CaptHindsight> you could hold the check for 10 business days before shipping
[17:13:29] <gregcnc> those guys seem buy everything at auction
[17:14:51] <FloppyDisk> It is odd. I was thinking of the holding part as well. They have a nice little nomura (for $10k), so seems like they're pretty legit.
[17:15:07] <FloppyDisk> And, you're right, they're auction hunters (whatever the name maybe for that).
[17:15:15] <FloppyDisk> holding check - I meant.
[17:15:15] <gregcnc> I've seen several small cnc lathes go through their hands
[17:15:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asea-5-axis-robotic-arm-teach-pendant-7-5-reach-robot-machine-pick-place-weld-/172220823589 $2k isn't bad
[17:15:55] <FloppyDisk> I thought'd I put it up here, reminds of reliable tools out of SoCal, but they went out of biz, so I hear.
[17:16:24] <CaptHindsight> you lose Paypal protection is you take the check
[17:16:30] <CaptHindsight> is/if
[17:16:33] <FloppyDisk> Yup...
[17:16:36] <FloppyDisk> hahaha
[17:16:56] <FloppyDisk> oh - thought you wrote 'as if', but yes, loose protection.
[17:17:10] <CaptHindsight> or lose the Paypal hassle depending on your viewpoint
[17:17:28] <FloppyDisk> Yeah - paypal cut you 'lose'.
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[17:24:16] <Loetmichel> *haha* "MORE POWER"... had to use the "emergency water release port" of my washing machine because something blocked the internal pump and it was full with ~6 liters of water... aaand its plugged by old soap... luckily i got a 1200W water ped draining pump... connected.... SUUUUUCK.... PLOPP...GURGLE...-> never seen the washing machine empty SO fast ;)... (and when it was empty it was easy
[17:24:16] <Loetmichel> to remove the block in the internal pump. However the q-tip shaft managed to get into the pump and block the impeller?)
[17:24:51] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: ever get you car fixed properly?
[17:25:07] <Loetmichel> no, still damaged torque converter
[17:25:37] <gregcnc> I drained my dishwasher with the shop vac when the pump stopped
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[17:26:01] <gregcnc> found the kids lego in the pump
[17:26:14] <Loetmichel> but it drives. 190kph instead of 230kph and 21mpg instead of 26mpg, but who cares :(
[17:27:28] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: i think there were more parts that could block the internal pump
[17:28:13] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: you'd think that there would be a filter in front of the pump to catch things like that
[17:28:15] <Loetmichel> heard the big 1200W beast rattle a few times and then the "clang" when something shot into the stainless steel kitchen sink
[17:28:50] <gregcnc> this wasn't even a lego brick, but a walkie talkie or something. it's possible the kids threw it in when I was working on it to replace main pump bearings last fall
[17:29:30] <gregcnc> there is a filter and chopper i can't understand how else it made it threw
[17:29:38] <gregcnc> through or thru
[17:30:32] <_methods> entropy
[17:30:55] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/fod/5639611967.html $695 but how lousy were these at thin aluminum sheet?
[17:31:14] <CaptHindsight> great for thick stuff
[17:35:29] <CaptHindsight> when I was a kid could break just about anything
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[17:37:19] <gregcnc> i still have to fix the towel rack my sone decided were moneky bars
[17:38:57] <gregcnc> btw, curse those who design towel rack such that they don't fit standard stud spacing
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[17:51:59] <CaptHindsight> just install monkey bars for a towel rack :)
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[19:16:55] <Magnifikus> maybe abit offtopic, but did someone use the yellow kodak touchscreen lcds 15"?
[19:17:06] <Magnifikus> cause mine is autosyncing vga all the time after 2 minute warmup
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[19:17:22] <Magnifikus> i bet its some voltage raid or so, all caps are replaced already
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[19:17:26] <Magnifikus> rail
[19:17:56] <Magnifikus> the select button gets pressed all the time, disconnecting the cable to the buttons wont help
[19:19:49] <Polymorphism> making offer on house today for cnc space
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[19:28:12] <Polymorphism> new ballscrew///nut likely shipping out soon
[19:28:17] <Polymorphism> going to take a crack at the control box today
[19:33:33] <Loetmichel> hmm, any englishman here? just saw a vid on youtube about the brexit. made by a scotsman... After the brexit there will be a scotexit and then a irexit ... THAT will be fun to watch how the empire is dismantling itself now ;) ... to watch from germany i may add ;)
[19:33:44] <Polymorphism> I love brexit
[19:34:03] <Polymorphism> happy independence day!
[19:37:54] <alex4nder> hah
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[19:54:37] <KreAture_> Sniffle
[19:55:00] <KreAture_> Anyone tried BeeBox + 2.7 yet ?
[19:55:07] <KreAture_> I can't seem to get a gui
[19:55:19] <KreAture_> it stops with a blinking cursor on screen
[19:55:38] <KreAture_> pressing powerbutton skips out of the blink and shows shutdown log
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[20:07:11] <PCW__> if it has a N3XXX CPU you need a pretty new kernel for the graphics to work
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[20:08:26] <Spida> Loetmichel: well, shopping in .uk just got 15% cheaper :-)
[20:08:54] <Spida> (german perspective, too)
[20:12:05] <roycroft> brexit explained:
[20:12:07] <roycroft> https://twitter.com/jhein/status/747353108385259520/photo/1
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[20:16:25] <XXCoder> lol
[20:20:32] <KreAture_> PCW__ it's the N3150
[20:20:54] <KreAture_> PCW__ I figured as much...
[20:20:57] <KreAture_> Hmm
[20:20:58] <PCW__> I think at least 4.4 is required
[20:21:12] <KreAture_> well, will have to start by getting it up on wifi
[20:21:19] <KreAture_> then I can start fiddling about
[20:21:24] <KreAture_> :)
[20:21:44] <KreAture_> I got ahold of a ECP capable mPCIe card for it
[20:21:59] <KreAture_> should be possible to get it up on parport io
[20:22:01] <KreAture_> :)
[20:22:05] <KreAture_> My hope anyways
[20:22:13] <PCW__> I have a Zotac CI323 (n3150 based) and it needed a 4.4 kernel before the graphics were right
[20:22:39] <KreAture_> I think you were the one mentioning to me earlier that the latency seemed ok on it?
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[20:22:52] <KreAture_> Hmm, oddly enough it can't find the wifi either
[20:22:59] <KreAture_> luckally my realtek wifi plug works
[20:23:02] <KreAture_> :)
[20:23:13] <PCW__> its pretty bad (~120 usec)
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[20:23:39] <PCW__> but it runs hm2_eth ok at 1 KHz
[20:24:47] <KreAture_> shucks
[20:25:13] <KreAture_> The pc I had was doing 35us
[20:25:24] <KreAture_> I need it all to fit the enclosure thouth
[20:25:26] <KreAture_> though
[20:25:34] <KreAture_> love the size of it
[20:25:48] <KreAture_> http://kreature.org/projects/cnc/controlsystem/controlbox_2.jpg
[20:25:56] <KreAture_> Here it is in the process of wiring up the BBB
[20:26:32] <KreAture_> the gfx performance running machinekit on the BBB was abysmal, around 1HZ update of display when the demo gcode file was loaded
[20:26:37] <XXCoder> where did you get that box
[20:26:44] <KreAture_> XXCoder Farnell
[20:26:48] <XXCoder> cool
[20:26:57] <KreAture_> Fitted it with the connectors myself
[20:27:41] <KreAture_> The grommit think on right is a "micro hdmi + usb A" to "full hdmi and usb A"
[20:27:58] <KreAture_> will have to replace that now though when moving off the BBB
[20:28:27] <KreAture_> The pulse control from the BBB is excellent but the control is just not usefull
[20:28:41] <KreAture_> and I will not fiddle with remove gui stuff, ruins the whole point of this box
[20:28:42] <KreAture_> hehe
[20:28:52] <Sync> you can probably get a nanoitx board that will work well
[20:29:46] <KreAture_> hmm
[20:29:49] <KreAture_> maybe
[20:30:01] <KreAture_> but with lpt ?
[20:30:42] <Sync> probably not, but eh, who needs an lpt anyway
[20:31:25] <KreAture_> alternatives are pricey
[20:31:45] <KreAture_> atleast with the beebox I feel I got my moneys worth
[20:32:05] <KreAture_> with a cheap fpga board to do the io, at over 100 usd I feel ripped off
[20:32:18] <Sync> you can always get a pcie slot through the m2 socket
[20:32:21] <Sync> design your own board
[20:32:34] <Sync> and realize that it is not worth the time for only $100
[20:32:43] <KreAture_> My job is design
[20:32:47] <KreAture_> hehe
[20:33:07] <KreAture_> last thing I did was a blood oxy meter for medical
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[20:33:17] <KreAture_> and a prosthetic hand control
[20:33:35] <KreAture_> I don't do too much fpga though but we have guys for that
[20:33:47] <Sync> then design your own board for under $100
[20:33:54] <KreAture_> still, I really feel the hw should be able to do it by itself
[20:34:18] <malcom2073> KreAture_: That was my exact same complaint with the BBB
[20:34:32] <malcom2073> There's no reason it can't handle all the machine control, but the lack of UI and/or remote capability killed it
[20:34:35] <KreAture_> malcom2073 yeh it does have seperate pru
[20:34:41] <malcom2073> Two of 'em
[20:34:46] <KreAture_> and they do an awsome job
[20:34:57] <malcom2073> They do, but the linux stack kinda falls fairly short
[20:34:59] <KreAture_> but the lack of proper opengl was the killer
[20:35:11] <KreAture_> rewriting the axis system for OpenGL ES is not my cup of tea
[20:35:12] <malcom2073> After I crashed my 3d printer three or four times, I gave up on it heh
[20:35:15] <malcom2073> too much input lag
[20:35:28] <KreAture_> mm
[20:35:33] <KreAture_> Been pondering why not use the ECP dma a bit more btw
[20:35:44] <KreAture_> in bus master mode it can tick out daya by itself
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[20:36:02] <KreAture_> using some round robin scheme of buffers my trick from arm cpu's should be workable
[20:36:09] <KreAture_> would take the jitter out of the equation
[20:36:47] <malcom2073> Jitter isn't an issue on the BBB, input lag is. They're closing the control loop in a realtime (ish) space
[20:36:57] <KreAture_> You precompute the 8 output pins state and generate data at a fixed rate where the values are time slices like a waveform
[20:37:09] <KreAture_> Then simply play it off buffer by buffer
[20:37:19] <KreAture_> I am talking about lpt io or gpio
[20:37:25] <malcom2073> That's not linuxcnc anymore though, but if you get that working.... :-D
[20:37:28] <malcom2073> lemme know
[20:37:35] <KreAture_> on the stm32 I am writing a system to do just this for 3d printing
[20:37:51] <KreAture_> It worked on my tests for 32 bit width
[20:37:57] <KreAture_> That is 16 step and 16 dir pins!
[20:37:59] <malcom2073> tinyg2 is the closest atm to having something workable on the 32bit arm arduino thingie
[20:38:15] <KreAture_> It does use an entire word of the gpio bus though
[20:38:18] <malcom2073> But their development is so closed, no telling what's going on there
[20:38:23] <KreAture_> at 16 bit it uses half ofcource
[20:38:27] <KreAture_> :)
[20:38:57] <KreAture_> less important stuff runns on normal servo thread, but the important bits run on dma with cyclic buffers
[20:39:16] <KreAture_> since the pc lpt in ecp mode has similar capabilities it would be awsome to try it
[20:39:34] <PCW__> Thats been tried with a RPI though I think the guy gave up
[20:39:40] <KreAture_> apparantly not many registers to program to get the ecp port doing usefull stuff
[20:39:46] <KreAture_> hmm
[20:39:49] <KreAture_> interesting
[20:39:58] <KreAture_> on the rpi you can do it via the gpio yes
[20:40:08] <KreAture_> The trick is actually throttling the datarate
[20:40:11] <malcom2073> I think people using the RPI primarly use SPI to a fpga board don't they nowadays?
[20:40:21] <KreAture_> malcom2073 copping out!
[20:40:23] <KreAture_> lol
[20:41:29] <Sync> malcom2073: I always wonder why those projects use the arduino cancer
[20:41:48] <malcom2073> Sync: tinyg2 afaik doesn't actually use the arduino libraries, only their board
[20:42:18] <malcom2073> I figure for the same reason there aren't more than one or two actual real promising projects: Not enough interest to justify someone who knows what they're doing getting into it
[20:43:07] <KreAture_> Sync LOL
[20:43:09] <KreAture_> agreed
[20:43:10] <KreAture_> hehe
[20:43:41] <KreAture_> you have to admit though, the ammount of time and energy that has gone into arduino coding and projects would send someone to the moon
[20:44:15] <KreAture_> "poke at it untill it works" actually works when enough resources are available, albeit usually not very stable
[20:45:04] <SpeedEvil> KreAture_: Android 'rom' scene and programming even more
[20:45:16] <KreAture_> hehe
[20:45:21] <KreAture_> tru dat
[20:46:08] * KreAture_ looks sadly at his prebuilt 2.7 image and his BeeBox
[20:47:06] <KreAture_> hmm, 3.4.9 rtai ?
[20:47:19] <PCW__> doubt it
[20:47:25] <KreAture_> not very 4.4 now is it
[20:47:42] <KreAture_> is there an rtai kernel for 4.4 ?
[20:48:18] <PCW__> not sure
[20:48:23] <KreAture_> Hmm
[20:49:47] <KreAture_> What we need is a 32 or 64 bit capable mpcie board capable of bus mastering transfer like the lpt ecp mode but wider and with inputs that can be programmed for interrupts
[20:49:54] <KreAture_> make it dumb as hell
[20:50:15] <KreAture_> let the pc be the brain as it should be and just give massive io
[20:50:36] <KreAture_> well we = me
[20:50:37] <KreAture_> lol
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[20:51:50] <PCW__> Nah just use Ethernet and get galvanic isolation from the motion parts
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[20:52:04] <Sync> ^
[20:52:34] <PCW__> better to be CPU agnostic
[20:53:20] <KreAture_> PCW__ I already have galvanic iso
[20:53:29] <KreAture_> well I have opticval iso
[20:53:36] <KreAture_> each of the controllers there have full optos
[20:53:46] <KreAture_> (in the box there)
[20:54:00] <PCW__> yeah but not good to be tied to a particular CPU
[20:54:05] <KreAture_> it's not
[20:54:15] <KreAture_> it's a generic method that should work on arm too
[20:54:40] <KreAture_> It does only require that the pins you need are gathered on a port in groups of 8 and continous
[20:55:00] <KreAture_> and be at 8 bit offsets on the addressing so as to allow the dma stuff to work
[20:55:07] <KreAture_> That is, for the gpio trick
[20:55:42] <KreAture_> I tested it on stm32 with 500000 transfers/sec giving a max pulsrate of 250000
[20:55:49] <PCW__> DMA tricks are very hardware specific
[20:55:50] <KreAture_> aka every other 0 and 1
[20:56:05] <enleth> PCW__: is there a 7i76E-like version of 7i77 available?
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[20:56:14] <KreAture_> well, being too generic and compatible is why we don'ty have anything that works...
[20:56:17] <KreAture_> lol
[20:58:23] <alex_joni> yay Island ;)
[20:58:52] <Sync> o0 KreAture_
[20:58:59] <Sync> ethernet works
[21:00:11] <KreAture_> I was very happy with my old setup though
[21:00:17] <KreAture_> it just doesn't fit the box
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[21:19:47] <CaptHindsight> KreAture_:
https://github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI/tree/master/base/arch/x86/patches is the latest RTAI that works with Linuxcnc
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[21:21:36] <os1r1s> Anyone use tts on their g0704?
[21:31:20] <Deejay> gn8
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