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[00:02:48] <XXCoder> is there such thing as too high resolution?
[00:03:14] <somenewguy> only if you don't have dedicated hardware for the encoder
[00:03:35] <somenewguy> all those ticks can slow the rest of the device down if it's poorly implemented, but I doubt any commercial controller would suffer from that issue
[00:04:03] <somenewguy> does MESA make a board for this, I'm digging thru the cataloge now
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[00:22:45] <cpresser> somenewguy: 7i77 has quadrature-encoder inputs
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[00:26:33] * XXCoder facepalms
[00:26:35] <XXCoder> https://imgur.com/a/skffp
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[00:29:26] <XXCoder> fun starts after few pages
[00:30:37] <XXCoder> it gets more and more surreal
[00:32:25] <XXCoder> it manages to get worse at page 17
[00:40:06] <somenewguy> i never did make it thru law school, I guess i know why now
[00:40:29] <somenewguy> cpresser: thanks! i'm looking into it, someday I will upgrade my mill and I want to have the electronics to do it on hand already
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[00:46:10] <hatch789> hey guys anyone home?
[00:46:52] <hatch789> I have a few questions about general LinuxCNC setup and safety systems with regard to e-stop and power buttons etc...
[00:46:56] <XXCoder> whats wrong with using irc elsewhere?
[00:47:21] <hatch789> lol XXCoder
[00:47:24] <XXCoder> ;) though not expert so cant answer your question, there is some thats here also
[00:47:50] <hatch789> so anyway I have my linuxcnc up and running but I don't think that I ever built my stops into it properly.
[00:48:32] <hatch789> for instance, right now my machine Tree Journeyman 200R will still use all of it's limit switches and e-stops by itself
[00:48:47] <hatch789> I don't have LinuxCNC tied into any of the e-stops and so-forth on the machine
[00:49:14] <hatch789> I'd like to do a "best practice" setup but not sure where to get the info on how it's recommended to be setup
[00:49:31] <hatch789> like how to tie the stops in and how to tie the power and things into LinuxCNC
[00:49:37] <XXCoder> I still need to build some nice control box for mine.
[00:49:43] <XXCoder> its badly wired up now
[00:51:51] <andypugh> hatch789: You probably want the e-stops to be entirely independent of the software (ie, if the software breaks, the e-stops still work).
[00:52:16] <andypugh> But you also want LinuxCNC to know that the e-stop has been triggered.
[00:53:05] <yasnak> estop? you mean the switch on the power strip?
[00:53:06] <yasnak> ;p
[00:53:58] <hatch789> well my limits are exactly that way
[00:54:09] <hatch789> LinuxCNC is in parallel with my limit switches
[00:54:16] <hatch789> so it knows when I hit a limit and which one it is
[00:54:25] <XXCoder> lol another thing my machine needs
[00:56:38] <andypugh> hatch789: I am no expert, but it sounds like your machine is set up pretty well.
[00:56:57] <hatch789> hey andy
[00:57:11] <hatch789> Thank you for your help the other night
[00:57:17] <hatch789> I'm trying to take the next steps now
[00:57:19] <andypugh> It is possible that it is a better choice to stop the spindle under power than cut power to it. This will depend on the machine and the spindle.
[00:58:09] <hatch789> well for now I'm not even messing with the spindle I'm more worried about the power button vs drift on the machine.
[00:58:14] <hatch789> if you have a moment I'll explain
[00:59:07] <hatch789> I have my Westamp drivers very nicely tuned to perfect balance and no movement at all when the machine is on and servo's are powered up. The MESA cards are OFF in this scenario
[01:00:14] <hatch789> so then if I press the e-stop and power my servo's down and power my MESA cards up, not even in LinuxCNC right at this time...
[01:00:38] <hatch789> I can then turn my servo's back on and where they sat perfectly still before now they will drift very slowly
[01:00:53] <PCW__> The drives should never be enabled unless linuxCNC is running and in the machine-one state
[01:01:17] <hatch789> I can even see a small 0.10 v on the X and a 0.045v on the Y from the signal wires
[01:01:25] <hatch789> so this is why the servos drift I imagine
[01:01:54] <PCW__> if you ever see drift, the drive enables are not properly controlled
[01:02:13] <hatch789> so yeah PCW someone (maybe you) said that to me 2 nights ago. But this is the part I'm trying to figure out now.
[01:02:23] <andypugh> I wouldn’t count on servos ever _not_ drifting. Even if they don’t drift now, when the temperature changes, or the components age, etc, a drift is likely.
[01:02:25] <PCW__> this is a safety issue
[01:02:30] <hatch789> yeah the drives are under no control at that time. as soon as I press POWER button on linuxCNC then the drives stop
[01:02:53] <hatch789> so ok cool
[01:02:53] <hatch789> that's all good
[01:03:00] <hatch789> means I have nothing wrong with my machine or LinuxCNC
[01:03:14] <hatch789> so I just need to hook things up in the proper series now to do what you guys recommend
[01:03:17] <andypugh> So, you need LinuxCNC to turn on the controllers, then turn on the amps, in that sequence.
[01:03:38] <hatch789> by the controllers you mean the mesa cards?
[01:03:47] <andypugh> In this case, yes.
[01:03:50] <hatch789> ok
[01:03:53] <PCW__> Yes this is important for safety so linuxCNC can shut down a runaway drive
[01:04:06] <hatch789> is there a whitepaper or something (URL LINK) to point me in the right direction?
[01:04:43] <andypugh> (So, for example, if the Mesa-card watchdog bites, one result of that should be the amps being diabled)
[01:04:55] <hatch789> ok I like that
[01:05:45] <hatch789> is there some links or directions (pdf file maybe) to help walk me through a suggested setup?
[01:06:45] <andypugh> hatch789: This does seem like somethign that official standards will cover, but I don’t know of any specifically. I will point out that I am just an amateur in this field.
[01:09:34] <andypugh> There seems to be some goo guidelines about how to think about machine safety here:
http://www.schneider-electric.co.uk/documents/original-equipment-manufacturers/pdf/Machine-safety-guide.pdf
[01:09:57] <hatch789> ok thank you
[01:10:30] <hatch789> what is the best way to understand what HAL Signals are reading my limits and e-stop?
[01:10:37] <andypugh> It is more based on what you need to achieve rather than what to do.
[01:10:55] <hatch789> 7i42TA card is tied into my limit switches (in parallel)
[01:11:25] <andypugh> You probably need to look at the man-pages for motion (mainly) halui and iocontrol.
[01:11:49] <hatch789> is the setup for these signals in my .hal file?
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[01:11:59] <andypugh> Yes
[01:12:18] <hatch789> net min-home-x <= hm2_7i43.0.gpio.025.in
[01:12:36] <hatch789> so my hal meter I just look at gpio 25?
[01:12:40] <andypugh> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/motion.9.html tells you (rather tersely) what the motion inputs do.
[01:13:19] <andypugh> Bear in mind that that HAL line above means nothing specific. min-home-x there could just as easily be called “susan”.
[01:14:22] <andypugh> but elsewhere you will probably see min-home-x (or susan) being linked to axis.0.neg-lim-sw-in
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[01:15:49] <andypugh> The net-names in HAL are like the colours of wires in a panel. They give clues to function, but there is no guarantee they contain the signal you think they do.
[01:16:58] <hatch789> ok so maybe I have something wrong then
[01:17:35] <hatch789> I thought I had all of these in parallel with the real limit switches on the Mill. But I just drove the servo (gently) into the X minimum limit switch and nothing happened
[01:18:16] <XXCoder> hatch789: can you directly trigger switch?
[01:18:33] <XXCoder> if so, is there a way to see switch status see if its triggered?
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[01:20:12] <hatch789> yes I can press it with my finger if that's what you mean?
[01:20:40] <hatch789> but there's so many signals to watch how will I know which one(s) to watch?
[01:20:48] <XXCoder> good question actually
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[01:21:39] <andypugh> hatch789: Search the HAL files for lim-sw-in?
[01:22:31] <andypugh> Limits won’t do anything much to LinuxCNC unless that are connected to the axis pins (from the motion module).
[01:23:21] <andypugh> This is the point I am making about the net names. No matter what the nets are called, they don’t do anything unless they go somewhere.
[01:23:55] <andypugh> Well past time for me to be asleep.
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[01:35:11] <Nick-shop> <pcw_home> You around?
[01:37:52] <XXCoder> HMM got idea what to do with cnc
[01:37:56] <XXCoder> build a rover
[01:38:27] <XXCoder> if I use oil-melted HDPE it will have self lubicating gears too
[01:43:06] <gregcnc> https://imgur.com/gallery/cSOFdsX
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[02:09:55] <FinboySlick> gregcnc: Took me a while to associate the GB with the GB ;)
[02:10:07] <gregcnc> me too
[02:10:14] <FinboySlick> Let's all blame andy for it.
[02:10:21] <FinboySlick> I bet it was all his doing.
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[05:06:01] <XXCoder> got stuff to cook plastic with :)
[05:06:21] <XXCoder> and glass plate for play with engraving
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[06:51:32] <Deejay> moin
[06:54:02] <XXCoder> yo
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[07:17:27] <yasnak> always fun to come back from an after bar and find the machines still running perfectly ;) cya'll in the morning
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[07:30:22] <Deejay> hmm, sounds like midnight-milling ;)
[07:39:57] <yasnak> lol
[07:40:17] <yasnak> haven't had time to go lights out on milling / turn mills yet.
[07:49:44] <XXCoder> wow
[07:49:47] <XXCoder> hdpe melts slowly.
[07:49:57] <XXCoder> been melting it for a while now
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[08:17:36] <XXCoder> its not same as hdpe, websites say it liquidifes at 350, im baking it at 370 and its still semi solid
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[08:39:48] <XXCoder> lol
[08:40:19] <XXCoder> it refused to liquidify so I set temperate to 400, waited 10 minutes, and took out and just smooshed it between 2 baking cake pans
[08:40:28] <XXCoder> (my own in case you are worried)
[08:42:15] <XXCoder> I used parchment paper to keep it seperated from pan and I read hdpe REALLY sticks to metal.
[08:53:52] <XXCoder> well.
[08:53:55] <XXCoder> result: failure
[08:54:16] <XXCoder> it refused to melt properly so it is still quite lumpy and I'm pretty sure lots voids in it
[08:54:23] <XXCoder> it may be hdpe but its mixed differently.
[08:54:34] <XXCoder> I took 4 milk cartons to cut em up now
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[09:44:18] <XXCoder> yo
[09:56:49] <jthornton> morning
[09:57:04] <XXCoder> yo
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[10:03:09] <XXCoder> wow
[10:03:26] <XXCoder> 3 big milk cartons cut into peices take less space than i expected
[10:03:33] <XXCoder> thinners walls than soylent bottles
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[10:21:14] <XXCoder> whew
[10:21:29] <XXCoder> 4 milk cartons turned to hdpe parts
[10:24:25] <jthornton> I wonder if I have some 1" x 6" CR
[10:24:30] <XXCoder> CR?
[10:25:42] <jthornton> cold roll
[10:25:45] <jthornton> steel
[10:26:15] <XXCoder> ahh
[10:26:32] <XXCoder> hmm do i try bake milk crtons now or tomorrow
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[10:29:36] <XXCoder> man
[10:29:47] <XXCoder> the soylent bottle plastic feels weird
[10:39:15] <XXCoder> jthornton: so what ya planning to do with that cr
[10:45:57] <jthornton> hmm I have a piece of 3/4 x 6 CR
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[10:52:33] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/press-brake/Press%20Brake.JPG
[10:52:55] <XXCoder> making brake eh
[10:52:56] <jthornton> the 1x6 CR is for the bottom but I'm thinking 3/4 will do fine
[10:53:34] <jthornton> yea, got a real punch and die so time to make an almost real press brake
[10:54:22] <gambakufu> PCW__, I saw your forum post about the rt-preempt kernel on the N3150 and was wondering what kind of latency you were getting on the servo thread? (I'm having a bit of trouble signing up to the forums)
[10:54:52] <XXCoder> nice
[10:55:03] <jthornton> what trouble are you having gambakufu
[10:55:27] <gambakufu> jthornton, not getting the confirmation email.
[10:55:32] <gambakufu> @yahoo.com
[10:57:14] <jthornton> user name gamba?
[10:58:00] <gambakufu> yes
[10:58:32] <jthornton> you have been approved and should be able to log in now
[11:00:01] <gambakufu> still getting an error: "Your sign up process is not yet complete! Please check again your email for further instructions that have just been resent"
[11:00:40] <jthornton> did you refresh the page?
[11:01:12] <jthornton> are you on a linux PC?
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[11:01:56] <gambakufu> refreshed and on windows.
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[11:04:00] <gambakufu> jthornton, ok I just signed up with a different name and it worked. thanks.
[11:04:34] <jthornton> ok I'll delete the other account
[11:06:58] <XXCoder> hmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A67zP0feEk
[11:08:40] <jthornton> wow you can heat up a paper clip
[11:08:56] <XXCoder> it was clip? thought it was just solder wire
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[11:10:58] <XXCoder> captions just dont really work
[11:11:21] <XXCoder> autocaprions sometimes does, sometimes does not work
[11:11:22] <somenewguy> XXCoder, I don't think ur using ur easy bake correctly over there...
[11:11:42] <XXCoder> uh
[11:11:48] <XXCoder> ok. whatever, some random guy
[11:12:13] <somenewguy> ur supposed to bake w/ milk, not milk cartons
[11:12:43] <XXCoder> jthornton: why is guy scrubbing air from reactor jar in water?
[11:12:49] <XXCoder> to remove oxygen or what?
[11:12:49] <jthornton> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfUHmekoKlI
[11:13:01] <jthornton> I quit watching lol
[11:13:29] <XXCoder> lol ok
[11:13:45] <XXCoder> pretty cool project, just dont get full info due to sucky autocaptions
[11:13:50] <jthornton> I'm building that edge 540
[11:15:57] <XXCoder> got some more details from comments, it apparently produces toxic gas, so thats why he was sealing reactor so hard, PLUS clean gas in water
[11:18:04] <jthornton> off to the shop
[11:18:08] <XXCoder> have fun
[11:21:34] <XXCoder> http://www.cracked.com/article_15764_the-5-least-surprising-toy-recalls-all-time.html #3 lol experenced that before
[11:21:58] <XXCoder> my neices launched em to me by mistake, brised my arm lol
[11:22:13] <XXCoder> they really fly well and hit hard
[11:24:33] <XXCoder> any of you ever played with lawn darts?
[11:25:08] <malcom2073> I have, they're pretty fun
[11:25:16] <JT-Shopp> no, I had a .22
[11:25:19] <XXCoder> yeah. too bad about its lethality
[11:25:28] <malcom2073> Only if you're an idiot
[11:25:31] <malcom2073> Which... a lot of people are
[11:25:36] <gambakufu> they seem pretty out of place in that list. I mean, they don't act in an unexpected manner...
[11:25:51] <XXCoder> malcom2073: techinically all kids are
[11:25:59] <XXCoder> now if it was adults only
[11:26:13] <malcom2073> XXCoder: True, and if their parents let them play with it unsupervised, makes the parents idiots too :)
[11:26:15] <malcom2073> Much like guns
[11:26:18] <XXCoder> then there will only be "hey hold my beer and look at me" events
[11:27:55] <Jymmm> lawn darts were awesome!!!
[11:28:09] <Jymmm> I had shit aim, but wee still cool =)
[11:28:11] <XXCoder> meh only played em for a little then got bored
[11:28:23] <malcom2073> XXCoder: Were you playing with them alone?
[11:28:29] <XXCoder> I was hmm 15? dunno
[11:28:32] <XXCoder> malcom2073: hardly
[11:29:15] <Jymmm> XXCoder: DOOOD.... tie long string and spin over your head
[11:29:25] <XXCoder> okay hold my beer and look!
[11:29:49] <Jymmm> No beer involved, had 7 acres though =)
[11:30:03] <gambakufu> now hold on. let's think about this a little... it's not worth much if you don't upload it to youtube.
[11:30:13] <XXCoder> nice. did live at small farm when was young, from 11 years old to 12 years old. at arkasas
[11:30:14] <Jymmm> a bitch getting out of some trees
[11:30:38] <XXCoder> but most of my life we moved too often and was very poor lol
[11:31:32] <Jymmm> gambakufu: Fuck YT, life it to be experienced, not watched
[11:31:57] <malcom2073> Jymmm: YT isn't for watching life, it's for watching other people *waste* their lives
[11:32:26] <XXCoder> yt = youtube?
[11:32:29] <Jymmm> yes
[11:32:37] <XXCoder> heh not all is a waste of time to watch
[11:32:43] <XXCoder> some really is awesome channels
[11:32:49] <XXCoder> clickspring is one of em
[11:32:51] <Jymmm> malcom2073: thats even MORE of a loser =)
[11:33:32] <Jymmm> loser watching a loser, nope nuttin wrong with that picture =)
[11:34:10] <malcom2073> Jymmm: Don't be so hard on yourself
[11:34:23] <XXCoder> youtubes handy to show some stuff though, you guys recall my video that finally dignoised setting problems with steppers
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[13:30:01] <somenewguy> is there a way to browse mesa by voltage? I need an H-bridge at 100 volts but only 1-300 watts...
[13:31:47] <MarkusBec> oehm what?
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[13:35:38] <Deejay> no, watt!
[13:35:45] <somenewguy> haha
[13:35:56] <somenewguy> most of the small motor controllers are 45 volts max
[13:36:12] <somenewguy> my motor is 100 volts dc, but only needs about 300 watts to run
[13:36:17] <JT-Shopp> I guess I'm doomed forever to close the windoze 10 free popup
[13:36:24] <JT-Shopp> every day
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[13:36:32] <somenewguy> I don't wanna pay $400 for what I think I need is about 150-200
[13:36:52] <somenewguy> JT-Shop: it's like the Navi of upgrades
[13:36:57] <somenewguy> hey!
[13:36:59] <somenewguy> listen!
[13:37:16] <MarkusBec> somenewguy: if you can build it, its easy ;)
[13:37:28] <MarkusBec> galvanic isolated mosfet drivers
[13:37:31] <MarkusBec> or igbts
[13:37:51] <MarkusBec> with a snubber at the output
[13:38:04] <somenewguy> MarkusBec: hahaha
[13:38:06] <somenewguy> ...
[13:38:11] <somenewguy> ok actually thats not a crazy idea
[13:38:27] <somenewguy> build my own controller, spend the money I saved on that digitize probe Ih ave been wanting
[13:39:50] <pcw_home> JT-Shopp: if you just close the windows 10 popup its installs anyway
[13:40:59] <pcw_home> (that is if you just dismiss the popup with th X you get windows 10 installed)
[13:41:01] <JT-Shop> I think it just downloads the files
[13:42:08] <pcw_home> we had it do this on 2 machines at work
[13:42:51] <JT-Shop> I still have windoze 7 installed
[13:43:16] <pcw_home> you cannot just dismiss the popup, thats what we did and got windows 10 installed
[13:43:20] <JT-Shop> but the free upgrade ends July 29th maybe it will quit bugging me then
[13:43:58] <JT-Shop> I wonder if me being on Satellite makes a difference
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[13:44:35] <somenewguy> nice thing about being on ethernet is you can panic yank the cord if it seems to have started something bad lol
[13:45:34] <JT-Shop> ah if you have automatic updates enabled you will get 10
[13:45:51] <JT-Shop> I don't have auto update on either windoze machine enabled
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[13:45:58] <pcw_home> Yes
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[13:47:47] <pcw_home> they changed it from optional to recommended around march which means if your
[13:47:49] <pcw_home> update policies installed recommended updates you got it even if you never asked
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[13:48:29] <pcw_home> basically a sneaky way to get a subscription based OS installed
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[13:57:54] <enleth> JT-Shop: you'll get it even if you have automatic updates disabled
[13:58:05] <enleth> JT-Shop: use Never10 if you want to be sure
[13:58:40] <archivist> just format the disk and put linux on
[13:59:02] <enleth> well, sometimes you need that crap natively
[13:59:35] <enleth> unless you happen to be good with xen and PCI passthrough to virtualize it and expose a dedicated graphics card
[13:59:55] <archivist> I have a laptop on XP and a pc on 2k
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[14:32:38] <yasnak> Must be from florida:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLmy5cTaeX8
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[15:49:10] <FloppyDisk> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARDINGE-CNC-LATHE-CHNC-/182179563010
[15:49:47] <FloppyDisk> If I won the lottery to have time to work on that machine above, then I'd just buy a 'newer' lathe...
[15:50:14] <alex4nder> that's sick
[15:50:20] <FloppyDisk> So, I'm not sure what the point of wanting is, it's a hallucination...
[15:50:31] <FloppyDisk> just stumbled on it...
[15:50:35] <archivist> a few of those have been retrofitted
[15:51:53] <FloppyDisk> I was thinking 'from the pic', that's actually a decent price for not at auction. I bet at auction it goes for next to nothing...
[15:52:12] <FloppyDisk> You could sell the controls for several hundreds...
[15:53:07] <_methods> jt has a chnc right?
[15:53:21] <FloppyDisk> I have an old Anilam Crusader M, and I just sold the power supply for the PC (if you call it that) for $200. I'm stoked:-) it's in good shape, guy should be happy.
[15:53:53] <FloppyDisk> _methods, JT does have one and someone else on the IRC was retrofitting one (or one similar, there's different models/versions)
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[15:55:51] <FloppyDisk> BTW - my advice (I am NOOO expert), is to buy stuff like that at auction. 3 Shizouka (sp?) mills in the SF BAy area, one went for $500, two went for free...
[15:56:16] <_methods> yeah auctions are definitely the way to go
[15:56:29] <archivist> old industrial is the right way of getting new toys
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[16:07:32] <CaptHindsight> I usually see Hardinge CNC lathes on ebay starting at around $3k
[16:16:36] <FloppyDisk> I agree w/ old industrial - if you can be patient, you can get 'lightly' used stuff for less than the bench top stuff and better iron.
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[17:10:54] <Jymmm> IAny way to repair an exterior wood door with partial striped screw holes?
[17:11:45] <archivist> yes, drill a larger hole, glue in a wooden dowel
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[17:13:48] <Jymmm> archivist: Wood (oversized) versions of this work?
http://store.cincinnatidowel.com/images/products/672.jpg
[17:14:04] <Jymmm> sorry, would*
[17:14:25] <archivist> they wood
[17:14:35] <Jymmm> heh, ok cool. ty
[17:15:41] <archivist> make sure you use a waterproof glue in exterior work
[17:16:11] <Jymmm> isn't most (yellow) wood glues "waterproof" ?
[17:16:51] <archivist> I only ever see white pva glue
[17:17:03] <[cube]> the yellow stuff is pva based as well
[17:17:13] <[cube]> doesnt hold up to water at all
[17:17:16] <[cube]> speak frome xperience :x
[17:17:33] <archivist> only stuff with waterproof on the container do I trust to be waterproof
[17:17:47] <Jymmm> Looks like this is...
http://www.titebond.com/product.aspx?id=e8d40b45-0ab3-49f7-8a9c-b53970f736af
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[17:17:57] <[cube]> yes if doing outside wood stuff i will use i think polyurethane glue?
[17:18:02] <[cube]> the stuff that foams up
[17:18:25] <archivist> foam is too weak
[17:18:36] <Jymmm> [cube]: I know of it, but have never used PU glues.
[17:18:52] <[cube]> Jymmm titebonsd is great
[17:19:06] <[cube]> i used the purple ployurethane stuff
[17:19:16] <Jymmm> [cube]: I've used theri "normal" wood glue before
[17:19:29] <[cube]> it expands as it cures and fills in all the little crevases
[17:19:34] <[cube]> then u just sand off
[17:19:55] <[cube]> yeah i prefer normal yellow carpenter's glue for most projects, just not outside
[17:20:13] <[cube]> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jeEAAMXQlgtS-gH1/s-l300.jpg
[17:20:14] <Jymmm> Yeah, doens't seem right to me for some off reason.
[17:21:17] <[cube]> you know that dissolvable 3d printer filament?
[17:21:18] <Jymmm> and is NOT UV proof.
[17:21:22] <[cube]> its made of the same pva stuff
[17:21:28] <[cube]> it's meant to dissolve in water
[17:21:55] <Jymmm> lovely
[17:30:04] <Tom_itx> Jymmm i would drill the holes out to 1/2
[17:30:19] <Tom_itx> " and insert a dowel pin in there so you have brand new wood
[17:30:26] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: That's awefully big, how come?
[17:30:38] <Tom_itx> more surface area
[17:30:41] <Tom_itx> new wood
[17:30:49] <Tom_itx> it's how i repair such things
[17:31:16] <Tom_itx> think outside the cubicle
[17:31:24] <Jymmm> 1/4 or 3/8 not enough?
[17:31:45] <Tom_itx> just like archivist said above now that i just read
[17:32:16] <Tom_itx> it's up to you
[17:32:21] <Tom_itx> not my door.
[17:32:28] <Jymmm> lol
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[17:33:04] <Tom_itx> don't plug the hole, remove it
[17:33:12] <Tom_itx> and insert new wood
[17:33:33] <Tom_itx> she'll be forever grateful
[17:33:50] <Jymmm> I think I have some 1/4" orange dowel rod
[17:34:00] <Jymmm> orange wood that is
[17:34:01] <Tom_itx> barely big enough
[17:34:08] <Tom_itx> go big or go home
[17:34:30] <Jymmm> haha
[17:34:31] <archivist> you really need to clear out old damaged wood
[17:34:38] <Tom_itx> ^^
[17:35:04] <Tom_itx> by the time you insert the screw into the 1/4" dowel you won't have much new wood left
[17:35:11] <Jymmm> Yeah, I get it, just 1/2 x4 four holes seem like a lot of material to remove is all
[17:35:55] <Tom_itx> i sometimes even cut the dowel off after it's glued in place
[17:36:03] <Tom_itx> then sand it smooth if required
[17:36:35] <Jymmm> That's what I would do, wish I had a japanese saw now
[17:36:42] <Tom_itx> cut some slits on the side of the dowel to relieve the glue
[17:36:53] <[cube]> you can get wooden taps/dies that are kind of cool
[17:36:56] <[cube]> too expensive tho
[17:36:57] <Tom_itx> you'll probably still have to pound it in
[17:37:10] <[cube]> $100 for a tap/die set
[17:37:18] <[cube]> for 1 hole size
[17:37:19] <Tom_itx> she'll really like that
[17:38:10] <Tom_itx> k, enough of that. i'm out.
[17:38:21] <Jymmm> damn, EACH?! furgit that
http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-Tools-1-5-in-x-1-2-in-Fluted-Dowel-Pins-840012/202252102
[17:38:33] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: laters
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[19:06:21] <andypugh> FloppyDisk: A friend has retrofitted a CHNC. I have a photo on my site, let me find it.
[19:07:21] <andypugh> https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Roj?authkey=Gv1sRgCJbSsrD-kfr3Hg#5951771392528865250
[19:07:49] <andypugh> He is extremely happy with the results.
[19:08:28] <FloppyDisk> andypugh - that is beautiful, I'm happy w/ his results, too:-)
[19:09:53] <FloppyDisk> I had been looking for a hardinge cnc (any of them) in NorCal, saw several in SoCal, but ended up w/ a small 9x20 chinese grizzly for now off craigslist.
[19:10:09] <FloppyDisk> I don't use it much:-( so good for me at the moment.
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[19:10:21] <andypugh> By results, I meant the next few pics, stepped test cuts micing up at 10.000, 15.000, 20.000, 22.000
[19:10:44] <miss0r> removing a 40 year old paper gasket by hand... that combined with a thunderstorm rolling in = me sweating like a pig
[19:16:22] <cpresser> andypugh: really nice shop!
[19:17:00] <miss0r> andypugh: can you post link again`?
[19:18:11] <cpresser> miss0r:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Roj?authkey=Gv1sRgCJbSsrD-kfr3Hg#5951771392528865250
[19:19:39] <miss0r> damn that is tidy! nothing like mine...
[19:21:44] <Jymmm> Hmmm, once O do the dowel thing, think a threaded insert would be a good idea™?
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[19:24:38] <FloppyDisk> I love the part filled in w/ ______ (looks like foam). What a great idea to be able to work on it.
[19:25:00] <FloppyDisk> Oh, never mind, it's not filled in...
[19:30:12] <miss0r> cpresser: You have me curious - what does your shop look like ? pics?
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[19:32:16] <cpresser> miss0r: i dont have current pictures
[19:32:58] <cpresser> miss0r: and since i am sharing the shop, its not only up to me to clean and tidy
[19:33:48] <miss0r> cpresser: That can be tough I guess. I have my own shop, but I am also struggeling to keep it tidy - but I can't compare to andypugh
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[19:35:53] <cpresser> miss0r: but I am moving out.. my mate and me have different views on how to clean up
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[19:36:47] <miss0r> cpresser: I hear'ya. A friend of mine comes in once a week to work on the lathe(he was ofc. thriled when I got the new one last week), but 'leave the machine how you like to find it', well - apparently he likes to start with a mess
[19:37:13] <miss0r> and I dont - so theres a somewhat agreement gap there
[19:38:14] <miss0r> hahaha. speaking of the 'new' lathe; apparently the lubrication system in there is a "paddle wheel" located in the bottom, that sortof just throws oil romdomly around
[19:39:07] <miss0r> is that common practice guys? have you seen that before?
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[20:00:16] <JT-Shop> bent the arbor on my jacobs chuck any ideas on how to get it out?
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[20:15:10] <_methods> ouch
[20:16:20] <_methods> can you disassemble the chuck with the arbor stuck in there?
[20:16:29] <JT-Shop> yea 5/16 bit broke off in the lathe and you could see the chuck shake as I hit the stop
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[20:16:44] <_methods> you might be able to pull apart as much as you can then press out the arbor
[20:18:10] <JT-Shop> it's this chuck
http://www.jacobschuck.com/keyless-chucks/jacobs-33360d-jk-100-1-2-medium-duty-industrial-keyless-10mm-chuck.html
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[20:19:16] <_methods> http://www.jacobschuck.com/keyless-precision-chuck-repair-guide
[20:19:27] <_methods> i think those are the instructions to disassemble it
[20:19:35] <andypugh> You typically extract the taper with taper extraction wedges.
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[20:19:44] <_methods> once you get off that lower part you can probably press out the arbor
[20:20:39] <andypugh> You need the right size:
https://www.amazon.com/Wedge-Sets-Set-No-WEDGE/dp/B0067BSG9S/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1466886009&sr=8-14&keywords=jacobs+wedges
[20:21:19] <andypugh> I think that the JT taper is normally into a blind bore.
[20:21:21] <JT-Shop> it has a 5/8 straight arbor
[20:21:28] <JT-Shop> and yea it's blind
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[20:21:49] <JT-Shop> nothing to wedge against unless I put it back in the holder :)
[20:21:57] <andypugh> You may need to weld on a collar and then use wedges then
[20:22:13] <_methods> it's not blind once you pull off the lower assy
[20:22:26] <_methods> you can press it out from the jaw side once it's taken apart
[20:22:44] <andypugh> Or, cut it off flush. grip a rod held on the lathe with the chuck jaws and machine out the tapir.
[20:23:25] <JT-Shop> this one is blind for sure
[20:23:40] <_methods> did you disassemble it?
[20:23:46] <JT-Shop> I can put it back in the holder and get it out
[20:23:56] <JT-Shop> don't know how to take it apart
[20:24:03] <_methods> you have to remove the fixed ring
[20:24:07] <JT-Shop> it's a keyless chuck
[20:24:10] <_methods> then unscrew the 2 halves
[20:24:13] <andypugh> miss0r: That picture was _not_ my shop. My shop is a sty.
[20:24:49] <_methods> the instructions to disassemble your chuck are in that link i posted
[20:25:13] <JT-Shop> ah missed the link
[20:25:25] <_methods> need me to repost it?
[20:25:28] <miss0r> andypugh: sty?
[20:25:42] <miss0r> oh - as in pigs sty
[20:25:46] <miss0r> heh
[20:25:48] <andypugh> Yes.
[20:26:00] <miss0r> andypugh: worse than mine ? :o
[20:26:30] <JT-Shop> thanks for the link
[20:26:36] <_methods> np
[20:26:44] <_methods> i had to do that to one of mine one time
[20:26:51] <JT-Shop> I'll just wait till I get a new arbor to take it apart so I don't loose any parts lol
[20:27:01] <andypugh> Well, the flood last week separated the metal swarf on the floor from the plastic swarf.
[20:27:03] <_methods> yeah be ready to catch ball bearings lol
[20:27:23] <_methods> do it over a plastic bin or something
[20:27:29] <miss0r> andypugh: ouch! sorry to hear. much damage?
[20:28:00] <andypugh> I don't think so. It only floods about 1" deep and I just keep stuff off the floor.
[20:29:03] <miss0r> even so. thats gonna mean elevated air humidity in there - thats not good for the machines
[20:30:22] <miss0r> thats a bigger problem in here in Denmark than most realize - no matter where you go, it relatively close to the ocean, so salt is always in the air, in different concentrations, also - in the winter we spead salt on the roads to de-ice them... you can imagine what that does to the cars
[20:31:43] <miss0r> if I were you i'd run in there with some oil in a hand mister and give everything a good layer - if you haven't already
[20:35:40] <andypugh> I am just glad that I had (randomly) picked up all the lathe chucks (4 of them) and put them back in the cupboard.
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[20:49:23] <thomaxo> Hi people!
[20:49:40] <thomaxo> Not a linux-cnc related question, but a heidenhain related question.
[20:49:46] <thomaxo> Does anyone have experience with those?
[20:51:06] <jdh> ask and find out
[20:51:47] <thomaxo> I suppose it could be more general, i'm looking to create more complex curves in CNC, not limited to circles and straight lines, (without splitting the curve in 1000 and 1 points) using spline data. Heidenhain can apparently accept such data.
[20:52:04] <thomaxo> The question would be, how do i retrieve such data from CAD documents?
[20:52:15] <thomaxo> which probably should lead me to a rhino forum :)
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[20:54:09] <thomaxo> oops, closed IRC, if i missed anything?
[20:54:19] <JT-Shop> might want to read up on our G5
[20:56:20] <thomaxo> hmm yes, G5 is a cubic spline, exactly what heidenhain accepts. I'll google a bit on that. Thanks!
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[21:06:35] <JT-Shop> file:///run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=nas,share=emc/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g5
[21:06:45] <JT-Shop> sorry bad link
[21:07:04] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode/g-code.html
[21:07:14] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode/g-code.html#gcode:g5
[21:08:57] <thomaxo> Thanks! :)
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[21:10:47] <JT-Shop> yw
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[21:18:27] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:01:12] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, the diy kind:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/6408U-1-2-in-x-1-2-in-x-48-in-Hardwood-Round-Dowel-10001804/203334064
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[22:53:57] <andypugh> Thomaxo: The SVG file format supports splines. So saving 9and drawing) the profle in Inkscape (for example) might get you part-way there. SVG to G-code ought to be quite a simple filter.
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[23:00:25] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/blast-cabinet/Blast%20Cabinet%2035.JPG
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[23:43:50] <_methods> JT-Shop: is that a cosen band saw?
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