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[00:00:12] <andypugh> Green laser pointer?
[00:00:36] <SpeedEvil> Basically zero.
[00:05:11] <SpeedEvil> ^please ignore the above comments
[00:05:20] <CaptHindsight> put it in a sunny window, set it and forget it
[00:05:28] <SpeedEvil> I was confused by digikey splitting out UV emitters into a seperate category
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[00:09:14] <CaptHindsight> storms a brewin here, time to hunker down
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[00:29:36] <Tom_itx> how rude...
[00:30:01] <Tom_itx> zlog
[00:30:01] <zlog> Tom_itx: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-06-22.html
[00:30:37] <Tom_itx> http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx
[00:30:48] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight, map says you'll be fine
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[02:35:05] <roycroft> well, dc braking is all but useless with my vfd
[02:35:21] <roycroft> i can't set it to kick in above 10Hz, and the motor is almost stopped already by then
[02:35:31] <roycroft> but it does stop quite instantly when it does reach 10Hz
[02:35:55] <roycroft> i guess i need an external resistor pack to dump to if i want to stop fast
[02:37:10] <Tom_itx> generally that's what is done i think
[02:37:23] <Tom_itx> or a heating element etc
[02:37:33] <roycroft> well a heating element is an external resistor :)
[02:37:40] <roycroft> but yes
[02:37:49] <roycroft> it was suggested earlier today that i might try dc braking
[02:37:50] <roycroft> so i did
[02:38:12] <Tom_itx> that energy has to go somewhere
[02:38:17] <roycroft> yup
[02:38:24] <roycroft> with dc braking it goes back to the motor
[02:38:45] <roycroft> and can overheat the motor if applied too frequently and too aggressively
[02:38:59] <roycroft> i'm not looking for instant stop
[02:39:10] <roycroft> but i don't like the 30 seconds it takes to stop now
[02:39:17] <roycroft> 3-5 seconds would be fine
[02:40:00] <roycroft> instant stop could be a good safety feature, but it would be a rather intense action - hard on the equipment
[02:42:52] <roycroft> i just found one for $17.95 that meets my specs exactly, and ships from the us
[02:43:29] <roycroft> although i'm pretty sure it is not made here
[02:43:52] <roycroft> the description says "can be used in the atrocious environment."
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[02:52:40] <enleth> roycroft: FYI a small - less than 1000W - travel kettle is going to be a good braking resistor for your configuration if you just want to test it without buying one
[02:53:19] <enleth> a regular kettle would have too low a resistance
[02:53:35] <enleth> fill with water of course
[02:54:43] <enleth> you can probably get a 600W kettle for $10 at the nearest big store
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[03:00:33] <roycroft> and i can make tea with it
[03:01:00] <roycroft> i just bought that $18 one though
[03:01:03] <roycroft> hopefully it will work ok
[03:01:24] <roycroft> it's not a terribly complex thing
[03:01:33] <roycroft> just a big resistor on a hunk of aluminium
[03:08:53] <Polymorphism> the ballnut is nothing more than a paperweight to me now
[03:08:58] <Polymorphism> I attempted to repair it and failed
[03:09:05] <Polymorphism> inquiring now about the cost of a replacement
[03:10:07] <Tom_itx> what's wrong with it?
[03:10:25] <Polymorphism> the balls are all out of it
[03:10:33] <Tom_itx> so put them back
[03:10:42] <Polymorphism> I tried to, wasn't able
[03:11:03] <Polymorphism> aftI tried to feed them in while turning it, and also packinmg them intop the tracks with grease and then screwing it on
[03:11:21] <Polymorphism> after a few hours and getting cut on the threads, I left the mess of grease and blood and steel
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[03:12:17] <Tom_itx> i don't recall why you took it apart to begin with
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[03:13:15] <Polymorphism> well when I tried to install the bearings on the ends of the screw, I couldnt get them on
[03:13:34] <Polymorphism> when one was partway on I unscrewed the nut slightly to remove it
[03:13:45] <Polymorphism> before I realized it was a mistake, 9 balls were out of place, and fell out
[03:13:50] <Polymorphism> it didnt sound the same after that
[03:24:39] <Erant> Well fuck
[03:24:50] <Erant> My 3 phase converter just blew.
[03:25:02] <Erant> All the IGBTs blew.
[03:25:11] <Polymorphism> That blows.
[03:25:29] <Tom_itx> Polymorphism did yours have external return tubes?
[03:25:51] <Polymorphism> Tom_itx, it has 3 plastic pieces that can be removed by pushing them inside and then out
[03:26:06] <Polymorphism> I think they are the returns
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[03:27:04] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87AOmePoh_E
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[03:29:42] <Tom_itx> did you take them out?
[03:29:50] <Tom_itx> if so, maybe they're backwards
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[03:34:48] <Polymorphism> I took them out one at a time, to inspect, some had balls in them. they appeared to be reversible but I tried to put them back the same
[03:35:08] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXdt5M8ZeoE
[03:35:27] <Tom_itx> one of those should be similar to yours
[03:36:59] <Tom_itx> should be no blood involved
[03:37:04] <Polymorphism> I tried that second vid, I'll try again following along before I order a replacement
[03:37:11] <CaptHindsight> I alternate between left hand and right ball bearings in my ballscrew nuts
[03:37:28] <CaptHindsight> this keeps them snug against each other :)
[03:39:21] <Tom_itx> the video indicates no blood removal
[03:39:49] <CaptHindsight> and bidirectional grease
[03:40:15] <Tom_itx> charged particles?
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[03:42:17] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure how they pay for them
[03:42:27] <enleth> just replaced the power supply in the Bridgeport's original control as the old one has been haphazardly repaired by the previous owner and I didn't like it
[03:42:42] <Polymorphism> it was the razor sharp edge of the end of the ballscrew
[03:42:48] <Polymorphism> as I was turning it
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[03:43:26] <enleth> I had to adapt a chinese modular power supply by adding a delay activated "power OK" output to signal the control to turn on, otherwise it would crap out trying to turn on as soon as 5V was present, while +/-15V wasn't yet up to spec
[03:44:10] <enleth> about a second of delay was sufficient
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[03:55:43] <roycroft> i think it's about time for ryan to gavel in again
[03:55:52] <roycroft> so the chanting will begin again
[03:56:05] <roycroft> ack, mischan
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[03:56:14] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3i-Ecb698g
[03:56:25] <Tom_itx> somewhat informative i though
[03:56:26] <Tom_itx> t
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[04:02:46] <Polymorphism> not a bad vid, mine seems to work differently I think
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[06:52:24] <Deejay> moin
[06:52:37] <alex4nder> morning
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[09:48:43] <jthornton> morning
[09:49:42] <XXCoder> night
[09:49:46] <XXCoder> whts up
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[09:51:22] <jthornton> just waking up
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[09:51:28] <XXCoder> cool
[09:52:19] <XXCoder> just chopping up even more HDPE plastic
[09:52:32] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/540/540-01.jpg
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[09:53:11] <XXCoder> so that is what is up in your place, a plane ;)
[09:53:21] <archivist> I wonder what the average flying to crash time is
[09:54:05] <jthornton> prob a long time if your experienced and if not you just glue it back together lol
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[09:55:00] <XXCoder> I wonder if can buiold plane out of world lightest material
[09:55:04] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/blast-cabinet/Blast%20Cabinet%2030.JPG
[09:56:50] <XXCoder> whats a good small materials shredder?
[09:56:59] <XXCoder> for chopping say HDPE
[09:57:17] <archivist> just make your melting pot larger
[09:57:55] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/blast-cabinet/Blast%20Cabinet%2027.JPG
[09:58:00] <XXCoder> you melted hdpe and made bricks before?
[09:58:49] <archivist> nope
[09:59:27] <XXCoder> would be funny if enough milk is bought to make tons of hdpe bricks, and build a house or garage with it lol
[10:00:24] <XXCoder> some families go thoygh milk like its only thing keeping em alive
[10:00:48] <archivist> jthornton, is the exit pipe a little small at the bottom?
[10:03:27] <jthornton> nope, it fits the bleed valve perfect
[10:04:13] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/blast-cabinet/extension-04.jpg
[10:04:43] <archivist> I was thinking of large slabs of rust falling down
[10:04:50] <jthornton> bleed valve is the silver thing under the red hobby blast cabinet attached to the black hose going behind right front leg
[10:05:19] <jthornton> large things won't fit through the holes in the perf plate
[10:09:58] <XXCoder> http://go.eliomotors.com/hs-fs/hubfs/LOWRES_-_IMG_1780.jpg
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[10:30:54] <Jymmm> XXCoder: hdpe house?! One little fire...
[10:31:01] <XXCoder> indeed
[10:31:08] <_methods> salvador dali house
[10:31:11] <Jymmm> or very hot day
[10:31:32] <XXCoder> hdpe crs melting in summer lol
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[10:31:45] <XXCoder> though it dont melt till its 200f or so
[10:31:52] <XXCoder> it probbly atill weakens
[10:32:25] <Jymmm> it can get 140F in a car with the windows rolled up, 200F isn't that far off, leave the hair druer on long enough
[10:32:36] <Jymmm> dryer*
[10:32:46] <XXCoder> lol indeed
[10:32:58] <Jymmm> hot water heateer vent pipe
[10:33:04] <XXCoder> still not too sure what I want to make with hdpe plastoc
[10:33:20] <_methods> milk cartons?
[10:33:25] <Jymmm> make smome milk jugs!
[10:33:28] <XXCoder> _methods: soylent bottles
[10:34:14] <_methods> it's people
[10:34:20] <XXCoder> nah
[10:34:26] <XXCoder> its contents thats people
[10:34:28] <XXCoder> not bottles
[10:34:29] <Jymmm> whats your fasination with hdpe? You want you things to smell like spoiled nasty ass milk???
[10:34:52] <XXCoder> Jymmm: just wanted to play around with it. see what i can do
[10:35:02] <XXCoder> and hey free plastic to cut on cnc for learning and stuff
[10:35:55] <XXCoder> interesting.
https://youtu.be/mmT1IVK72xc
[10:36:06] <Jymmm> to muck around with hdpe, you need a stable heat source, and it'll probably cost you more in energy/fuel than to buy new =)
[10:36:40] <XXCoder> sun focus/collumator for free heat
[10:36:52] <Jymmm> STABLE heat source
[10:36:59] <XXCoder> yeah its likely like that, cheaper to buy blocks than make em
[10:37:16] <XXCoder> Jymmm: salt heated by large array stays hot for long time
[10:37:24] <XXCoder> though I cant build to that scale lol
[10:37:40] <Jymmm> STABLE, not intense, PE/PP is very touchy
[10:38:07] <XXCoder> pe/pp?
[10:38:44] <Jymmm> PE = Polyethylene, PP = Polypropylene
[10:39:47] <XXCoder> wouldnt it also mean alum smelting and casting is more expensive than buying alum blocks
[10:40:08] <XXCoder> or am i missing something
[10:41:18] <Jymmm> alum has a value per weight, PE/PP doens't except for CRV value
[10:43:28] <XXCoder> hm ok
[10:45:33] <XXCoder> honestly its more for fun than anything else
[10:46:41] <XXCoder> man
[10:46:49] <XXCoder> that handles design is really good
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[11:29:00] <Jymmm> XXCoder: 2x $500/each drawer pulls.
[11:29:23] <XXCoder> maker sells em?
[11:29:34] <Jymmm> oh pleeeeze
[11:29:40] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: What do you mean by stable?
[11:29:47] <XXCoder> unchanging heat source
[11:29:52] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: Oven
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[11:30:56] <archivist> cooker hot plate, thermocouple and a controller
[11:31:26] <Tom_itx> molten lava beds
[11:31:33] <archivist> best to have a heat holding mass so it varies less
[11:31:50] <Tom_itx> ^^
[11:32:16] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: Most dont have a big enough oven, PP/PE goes from gooey mess to crunchy crap in about a 10F window
[11:32:35] <archivist> I have a plate in between element and sand pit
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=kiln+bluing
[11:32:48] <Jymmm> what archivist said would help big time
[11:33:40] <archivist> made for bluing rather than meting but principle is similar
[11:34:16] <Jymmm> archivist: like gun blueing?
[11:34:24] <archivist> yes
[11:34:26] <Jymmm> k
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[11:34:38] <archivist> done with heat not chemical
[11:34:44] <Jymmm> nice
[11:36:06] <archivist> earlier examples
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=hands
[11:36:14] <Jymmm> My "thermal mass" is 50lbs of #30 mesh sand. Slow to get up to temp, but works out very well.
[11:37:19] <Jymmm> Note: 50lbs of sand fits perfectly in a 5gal bucket btw =)
[11:37:28] <archivist> the tray of sand help to get a very even heat over the item
[11:37:54] <Jymmm> also great for putting out any fires =)
[11:39:01] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziHqQcRflgM
[11:39:12] <XXCoder> hdpe apparently strunks by quite a bit
[11:41:34] <XXCoder> lol Jymmm you might want this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWlj5rYsFg4
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[11:55:38] <XXCoder> http://atomicshrimp.com nice site
[11:55:48] <XXCoder> he did a bunch of recycling stuff
[11:59:42] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I like the final product, but not the process. More my style...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdNZFMplyM
[12:00:17] <XXCoder> ah vacuum foaming?
[12:00:27] <Jymmm> And PS is cheap!
[12:00:32] <Jymmm> yep =)
[12:01:16] <XXCoder> I do want to play with vacuum foaming too
[12:01:23] <XXCoder> though not interested enough to do it
[12:01:42] <XXCoder> there is REALLY cheap tiny ones, made for dentals but work for anything
[12:01:49] <XXCoder> space is enough for dentures so its not big
[12:02:37] <Jymmm> You would be surprised as once you have a design/mold, then you can cretealot of em real quick - especially the whole staw wars / cosplay stuff
[12:02:58] <XXCoder> I heard storm uniform is qyite expensibve
[12:03:21] <Jymmm> And now you can sell em =)
[12:03:39] <Jymmm> raw, let them do all the shitty work =)
[12:04:46] <XXCoder> $10 for 12"x12"x.354 sheet of hdpe lol
[12:05:11] <XXCoder> no wonder hdpe is damned everywhere, its cheap
[12:05:58] <Jymmm> Shit, go steal a bunch of trash cans, they're HDPE
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[12:07:43] <Jymmm> err... "borrow", not steal ;)
[12:08:14] <XXCoder> https://www.amazon.com/Seaboard-Density-Polyethylene-Finish-Length/dp/B00JPH9U50 lol
[12:08:20] <XXCoder> no interesting colors though lol
[12:08:29] <XXCoder> milk jugs caps make for a nice pattern
[12:10:07] <XXCoder> interesting
http://atomicshrimp.com/post/2013/12/29/More-Plastic-Moulding-Re-Making-A-Missing-Handle
[12:12:00] <Jymmm> XXCoder: DIY vacuum forming machine - I relly like his heater setup for even heat (might add a tiny fan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maH5Ech0wK8
[12:12:53] <Jymmm> XXCoder: IF you make one, be sure to support the cavity of the vacuum table or it will deform
[12:13:02] <XXCoder> looks like ABS
[12:13:20] <XXCoder> ?
[12:13:40] <XXCoder> nice heater solution!
[12:15:52] <XXCoder> autocaptions is mostly nonsense
[12:16:21] <XXCoder> mold ice here 3 balls so on and on. "lip balm shine tonight shan listing"
[12:16:34] <XXCoder> anyway time to sleep laters
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[14:03:39] <gregcnc> Erant which phase converter or VFD?
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[14:44:34] <CaptHindsight> has anyone tested and found a known working barebones or used PC from NewEgg or similar for use with Linuxcnc and Mesa (PCIe or Ethernet)?
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[15:03:19] <pcw_home> the $40 DC7800s work pretty well
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[15:07:00] <pcw_home> The Zotac CI323 also works well with Ethernet (it has 2 Ethernet ports)
[15:07:01] <pcw_home> I suspect almost any PC will work with Ethernet if is has a Realtek or Intel MAC
[15:07:03] <pcw_home> Best Ethernet performance I have seen is with H81/H97 MBs (no problem with 4KHz servo threads)
[15:11:38] <enleth> pcw_home: I might be getting another set of Mesa cards for the ORAC soon and I'm thinking of giving the ethernet-based cards a try, just out of curiosity, instead of getting a 6i25/7i77 set. Are there any articles/write-ups/rants/whatever on the practical differences between the two, other than the obvious difference in the bus being used to communicate with the card?
[15:12:03] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: can the Zotac run two 7i92 at the same time?
[15:12:34] <cradek> enleth: certainly there are extra setup steps
[15:13:08] <alex4nder> CaptHindsight: I use a shuttle ds57u .. it has two independent gige ports
[15:13:35] <alex4nder> it's a cool little box
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[15:55:46] <pcw_home> enleth: I would say the main difference is the Ethernet card are a bit harder to setup initially
[15:55:48] <pcw_home> (you need to setup a port with static IP address, you also need a Preemt-RT kernel and the uspace version of LinuxCNC)
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[15:57:20] <pcw_home> Yes the Zotac could run 2 at a time (you can run up to 4 Ethernet cards at a time from a single port if you add a switch)
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[16:02:34] <lair82> pcw_home, I just got back from swapping out the ssd's to the updated one with the 4.1.20 rt23 kernel on it, and after about 2 hours of solid performance, with the machine running better than it ever has, I got a realtime fault,
https://app.box.com/s/bcy2zrj97lixnc5j04vmq6ivc1kc2xde
[16:04:04] <lair82> This thing is a carbon copy to the machine in the shop that has been running flawlessly since I updated the rt kernel on it. The only difference is the machine here is v4.1.13 not 4.1.20
[16:04:51] <lair82> I looked at the "halcmd show param *tmax" output, and the 7i80 read time was right at 4600000.
[16:05:01] <lair82> Any thoughts?
[16:05:28] <lair82> These are the ones with the H97 boards in them
[16:05:31] <pcw_home> BIOs power management?
[16:06:22] <lair82> I looked through it, and it all looked the same as the one here at the shop. is there any way to print the bios settings, so I can go compare them ?
[16:06:36] <pcw_home> Not that I know of
[16:08:20] <lair82> Ok, I will go write everything down then go back and compare them
[16:08:55] <pcw_home> also check the BIOS version in case its different
[16:09:21] Guest86 is now known as Loetmichel
[16:09:35] <lair82> Ok, didn't think of that
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[16:11:56] <pcw_home> Thats a ~1.5 ms delay spike, I dont think there's much other than power
[16:11:58] <pcw_home> management that can do that
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[17:15:22] <andypugh> Bother! My workshop flooded again
[17:15:34] <DaViruz> welcome to britain?
[17:15:35] <DaViruz> :)
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[17:15:46] <CaptHindsight> time to move to higher ground?
[17:15:46] <andypugh> 35mm depth of water all over
[17:15:59] <DaViruz> that is a bother
[17:17:05] <CaptHindsight> I hate floods. Mold, mildew, even coating of dirt....
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[17:17:45] <andypugh> The forecast says it should stop raining on Wednesday
[17:17:48] <lair82> I received almost 2 1/2" of rain in less than 4 hours last night, no flooding, but boy was it coming down
[17:18:53] <CaptHindsight> a few years ago we had 4-6" inches in our shop from a 1 in a 100 year flood....
[17:19:39] <CaptHindsight> ends up the city ignored the Army flood plane maps from years ago and built a street right across a stream bed
[17:19:59] <lair82> That is fantastic,,,
[17:20:00] <djdelorie> we recently had 4" in our basement from a plugged drain :-P
[17:20:02] <CaptHindsight> the street acted as a dam when it filled
[17:20:39] <lair82> It is so dry around my place, there was no standing water when I woke up this morning
[17:22:42] <andypugh> Luckily it can’t get much deeper in my workshop before it runs out the door, and all the CNC electronics is higher than that.
[17:22:57] <lair82> Thats good
[17:23:12] <lair82> How did it flood in the first place?
[17:23:28] <andypugh> Wasn’t so pleased to see that I had left one of my 3-jaw chucks on the floor, but glad that I (totally randomly) put all the others in the cupboard last night
[17:23:50] <DaViruz> the word cupboard has always intruiged me
[17:23:54] <DaViruz> how did it come to be
[17:24:16] <andypugh> lair82: It seems that the water table is only about 2” below the floor slab. After enough rain the water oozes up through the gap between the slab and the walls.
[17:24:36] <andypugh> DaViruz: It was literally a board that you kept cups on.
[17:24:39] <archivist> time for a sump and pump
[17:24:46] <CaptHindsight> on ships would it be "cupplank"?
[17:25:00] <DaViruz> andypugh: but how did it turn into a small closet
[17:25:07] <andypugh> archivist: I decide to do that every time it floods. Then forget.
[17:25:14] <archivist> heh
[17:25:48] <DaViruz> here we usually dig a trench around the slab a fair bit deeper and put a drainage pipe in if the water table is a too high
[17:25:56] <archivist> I had the doors open letting the air in today, no rain up here :)
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[17:26:11] <andypugh> DaViruz: Compare to “Sideboard”
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[17:26:31] <archivist> floor board
[17:26:41] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: if the water table is that close to the surface a sump would just run continuously
[17:26:42] <DaViruz> overboard
[17:26:43] * archivist ducks
[17:27:34] <lair82> Aaaahhh, makes sense, a place I used to work at, the building was 400' wide by 250' deep, one spring we received a ton of rain over the course of a week, by the end of the week, water was coming up through the floor, in the CENTER of the building.
[17:27:46] <CaptHindsight> we have ducks in our overflow pond
[17:28:13] <archivist> while sitting on the throne I found an interesting schesinger article in the Imeche from 1938 Machine tool tests and alignment
[17:31:54] <archivist> I think the online price is a bit too high
http://pme.sagepub.com/content/138/1/59.abstract
[17:32:29] <_methods> is that brexit thing over yet
[17:33:06] <_methods> you guys are messin up my 401k
[17:33:07] <archivist> polling stations still open till 10pm
[17:33:33] <archivist> votin the EU off out island
[17:33:41] <archivist> our
[17:33:45] <_methods> who's gonna pay for greece
[17:33:56] <archivist> them others
[17:33:59] <_methods> hahah
[17:34:08] <CaptHindsight> Greece will be under private ownership
[17:34:17] <CaptHindsight> like Disney
[17:34:23] <CaptHindsight> only with gyros
[17:34:36] <_methods> never a good idea to let greece or italy get involved in anything besides catering food
[17:35:13] <archivist> italy can just about make a sports car too
[17:35:23] <andypugh> I expect the vote will be to stay in. But the heavy rain is likely to make the turnout low.
[17:35:29] <CaptHindsight> how about Spain?
[17:35:49] <CaptHindsight> what's Spain done for us lately?
[17:36:11] <andypugh> I am kind of in favour od _an_ EU, but less so of the one we have.
[17:36:59] <_methods> well at least this time germany will have a good reason for attacking you guys
[17:37:09] <_methods> leaving them holding the bag lol
[17:37:26] <archivist> they keep losing wars /me not worried :)
[17:37:30] <_methods> hahah
[17:38:02] <andypugh> I am failry sure the single currency has not worked out as well as anticipated.
[17:38:21] <_methods> they'll be the last ones left at the party with those 2 annoying hairy stinky guys........greece and italy
[17:38:48] <CaptHindsight> maybe we can sell them a wall or two
[17:38:55] <andypugh> Britain used to have the largest and best-trained army in the world. All we need to do to get it back is re-invade India :-)
[17:38:56] <_methods> yeah we got a guy
[17:39:02] <_methods> he knows how to build walls
[17:39:03] <Sync> andypugh: if it was actually meaning something I'd actually take it seriously
[17:39:05] <_methods> on their dime
[17:39:46] <_methods> mexico will pay for your walls
[17:39:53] <CaptHindsight> I thought that India was invading the UK
[17:40:13] <CaptHindsight> they took over your menus
[17:40:21] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: Not to anything like the extend that the Leave Camp would have you believe.
[17:40:23] <_methods> hehe
[17:41:35] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: To an extend, but Vindaloo is Portugese and Tikka Masala is Scottish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tikka_masala
[17:43:42] <CaptHindsight> well first they invaded Glasgow, then came up with a marketing name ...
[17:47:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Food-in-Britain-in-the-1950s-1960s/
[17:49:35] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight get much for storms last night?
[17:49:37] <archivist> heh that article is right, my mum could produce cold and burnt baked beans in the same saucepan
[17:49:48] <CaptHindsight> haha
[17:51:06] <andypugh> My mum is a keen cook, and pretty good at it. She managed to never cook the same meal twice during her first year of marriage (a challenge I thnk she had set herself long beofrehand)
[17:52:40] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: spotty heavy rain and wind, tornado's to the south
[17:53:15] <CaptHindsight> nice today 68F and sun
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[17:55:17] <SpeedEvil> https://youtu.be/tf7IEVTDjng more Boston dynamics
[17:55:39] <SpeedEvil> I guess it is still hydraulic
[17:55:46] <CaptHindsight> at our house it was how many calories could you consume in the shortest amount of time, yet I was always as skinny as a bean pole
[17:57:43] <CaptHindsight> they have managed to make robots as annoying as dogs, except for the ones that actually help around the house
[18:07:01] <djdelorie> the robots or the dogs?
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[18:39:08] <CaptHindsight> who makes high temp >200C and sealed (gas tight) versions of these?
http://www.linearmotionbearing.com/steel-cage-linear-bearings-1.html
[18:39:43] <CaptHindsight> http://www.linearmotionbearing.com/flange-type-linear-bearings-1.html
[18:39:53] <andypugh> Try Mahle
[18:40:26] <andypugh> No, wait, completely the wrong company.
[18:42:05] <andypugh> I meant Mahr, but having looked, I don’t think that they do.
[18:42:54] <CaptHindsight> going to need to support 3/8"-1/2" rods over 8-10" of travel in an oven with various gases
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[18:44:36] <CaptHindsight> https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/2LFV2_AS01?$zmmain$ might have to use some seals like these
[18:45:19] <Deejay> seems broken ;)
[18:45:26] <CaptHindsight> hehe
[18:52:18] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: the alternative way is to not do that, and to seal in the cold outside
[18:52:51] <CaptHindsight> if the bearings can hold up to the temp
[18:54:36] <CaptHindsight> http://daemar.com/shaft_seals_14.html
[19:00:55] <CaptHindsight> http://daemar.com/shaft_seals_14.html
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[19:04:16] <CaptHindsight> http://www.allsealsinc.com/teflon-products.html
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[19:29:19] <Tom_itx> http://www.lily-bearing.com/ceramic-bearings/applications-ceramic-bearings/high-temperature/?gclid=CJf33_7wvs0CFQctaQodZtsBRA
[19:29:24] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight, ceramic
[19:31:33] <Tom_itx> http://www.specialtycomponents.com/?gclid=CJ70m8jxvs0CFQsDaQods6sJPw
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[21:10:25] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:14:12] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: those are fine for temperature but they still need a seal to keep the hot gases from escaping, and the movement is axially
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[21:17:48] <gregcnc> my 70$ fluke 362 arrived. Seems legit. the box is marked "fluke calibration certificate india" was made in china
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[21:39:39] <Vq> The village India located in China?
[21:44:28] <Frank_11> later tell us how it turns out, im still figuring out which to buy
[21:49:21] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight yeah i was reading something about 'face' seals
[21:50:37] <Tom_itx> maybe that other link has something
[21:52:12] <Tom_itx> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_gas_seal
[21:52:59] <Tom_itx> https://www.johncrane.com/products/mechanical-seals/dry-gas
[21:55:05] <Sync> yeah they are pretty cool
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[22:05:53] <jdh> I got a fluke 287 today. pretty nice, but wasn't my money.
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[22:18:45] <andypugh> gregcnc: AvE took one apart. But I couldn’t watch it. He annoys me by damaging parts in obvious places when he could choose hidden places.
[22:21:33] <gregcnc> I guess this one was India market, warranty is for India. 30usd less than ebay so pretty cheap. not sure if AvE does those things intentionally or not, but I take it for the comedy that it is.
[22:22:20] <gregcnc> i just hope india amps and volts are the same as ours
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[22:45:01] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6obic1uh7o
[22:45:02] <_methods> yep
[22:45:04] <_methods> they're the same
[22:45:06] <_methods> lol
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[23:00:11] <andypugh> I think I stopped that just in time
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[23:01:36] <CaptHindsight> Tom_itx: yeah I found some pretty elaborate seals for high temp and pressure where many HP are involved
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[23:03:04] <Valen> https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck command line fixer watch the GIF at least lol
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[23:04:31] <Valen> Ave bugs me a bit with many things he does, if he doesn't get something it's stupid
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[23:10:08] <SpeedEvil> yeah
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[23:46:57] <Frank_11> hellop
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[23:51:12] <andypugh> Hellop to you too.
