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[00:01:57] <andypugh> If I absolutely had to do what you need to do, with no equipment, I think I would shim up the guides outside the expected mounting points and make a temporary gantry to ride on them to grind the rail seats with a dremel. Or possibly hand-shape them with a lathe tool like my dovetail jig.
[00:03:20] <andypugh> In either case, you should mount the base plate on the final support frame first.
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[00:04:04] <andypugh> And, in fact, it might well be that your best bet is just to bolt on the rails as-is then adjust the table feet to straighten the machine.
[00:04:57] <andypugh> ie, use a concrete floor and epocy studs to pull the machine straight
[00:05:03] <andypugh> (epoxy)
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[00:09:50] <andypugh> Right, I opted-out of a weekend with friends in Wales on motorbikes this weekend because the weather was foul. I think I need to make the sacrifice feel worthwhile by getting a lor done on the CNC projects, so I am going to have a (relatively) early night.
[00:09:57] <andypugh> So, goodnight all.
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[00:30:06] <pink_vampire> is it easy to cut?
[00:30:09] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OD-8mm-x-400mm-Bearing-Steel-Cylinder-Liner-Shaft-Optical-Axis-/281912871209?hash=item41a3510929:g:R98AAOSwT5tWOMbx
[00:30:22] <pink_vampire> I mean to machine it..
[00:30:24] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: other test you can do is angle the laser to one of edges
[00:30:30] <XXCoder> see if it bounces off end
[00:30:37] <XXCoder> and find what angle it would bounce
[00:30:45] <XXCoder> and what angle it does not
[00:30:49] <pink_vampire> i did it, and it work fine
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[00:31:08] <XXCoder> so what was its internal refraction angle?
[00:31:21] <pink_vampire> 0
[00:31:26] <pink_vampire> nothing
[00:31:46] <pink_vampire> I'm going to use 90 deg led
[00:31:47] <XXCoder> it does not bounce when you shine in edge to another edgem, angled?
[00:31:54] <pink_vampire> to solve it
[00:32:08] <pink_vampire> no
[00:32:16] <XXCoder> edges smooth?
[00:32:23] <pink_vampire> no
[00:32:28] <pink_vampire> machined
[00:32:43] <XXCoder> hmm well can always use 180 deg led :)
[00:32:58] <pink_vampire> but i'm going to use 90 deg led.
[00:33:16] <pink_vampire> and then it's not going to be a problem
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[00:33:26] <XXCoder> err I meant 90 lol
[00:33:35] <pink_vampire> but now I have other issue
[00:33:59] <pink_vampire> I want to machine shaft
[00:34:27] <pink_vampire> and I'm not sure what kind of steel is that.
[00:34:46] <pink_vampire> it a bit flexible
[00:34:48] <djdelorie> they make 180 degree SMT leds... they're designed to shine through holes in the PCB under them.
[00:35:16] <pink_vampire> the steel is hard as my file
[00:35:43] <pink_vampire> it's look like the stuff here
[00:35:45] <XXCoder> what do you want to machine on it?
[00:35:58] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OD-8mm-x-400mm-Bearing-Steel-Cylinder-Liner-Shaft-Optical-Axis-/281912871209?hash=item41a3510929:g:R98AAOSwT5tWOMbx
[00:36:39] <pink_vampire> to cut something like the hex, but smaller and more complex
[00:36:58] <XXCoder> cool
[00:37:03] <XXCoder> man you make weird stuff
[00:38:16] <pink_vampire> woman*
[00:38:31] <XXCoder> I know youre female
[00:39:03] <pink_vampire> I know it's an idiom
[00:39:06] <Duc> stupid question for people with rotary tables on their mill. do you run a seperate profile when you unhook the rotary so you dont have homing issues
[00:39:29] <Jymmm> XXCoder: (There's no proof of that)
[00:39:36] <XXCoder> Jymmm: I dont care.
[00:39:41] <XXCoder> if she says she are she are
[00:40:06] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I say your woman too!
[00:40:13] <XXCoder> even if her body is 400 pound ape
[00:40:20] <XXCoder> I dont own any woman?
[00:40:27] <XXCoder> thats slavery!
[00:40:33] <Jymmm> XXCoder: You ARE woman, we hear you roar!
[00:41:07] <XXCoder> roar dunno if I can do that. scream, sure lol
[00:41:32] <Jymmm> ...like a girl!
[00:41:44] <XXCoder> I probably scream like girl. dunno
[00:41:55] <XXCoder> I dont use my voice much.
[00:42:03] <Jymmm> XXCoder: cc yourself and find out =)
[00:42:31] <pink_vampire> my BF say that I'm using my vice too much.
[00:42:37] <pink_vampire> voice*
[00:43:02] <XXCoder> cc dont tell voice types unless its a key plot point
[00:43:13] <Jymmm> Is that a kinda way of saying you talk too much?
[00:43:17] <Jymmm> kind*
[00:43:18] <XXCoder> like this (deeper voice) whatever
[00:43:33] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Give it a shot, ya never know
[00:43:44] <XXCoder> lol nah
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[00:46:12] <pink_vampire> omg
[00:47:04] <Jymmm> Yes, my child?
[00:47:26] <Duc> how are you using your voice to much
[00:47:33] <pink_vampire> this shaft can leave a mark on a ball bearing.
[00:48:03] <pink_vampire> Duc: I like to talk..
[00:48:38] <XXCoder> Duc: its easy really. start talking. keep going till someone complain. congats you unlocked too much talking acheviment!
[00:49:11] <Jymmm> Duc: and XXCoder should know, he's an expert at it!
[00:49:39] <XXCoder> I do talk too much sometimes lol
[00:49:47] <Jymmm> lol
[00:49:50] <XXCoder> though not voice
[00:50:19] <Jymmm> Eh, crazy glue is a simpler cure.
[00:50:33] <Duc> LOL yea most days I dont get in trouble for talking to much more what comes out
[00:51:57] <pink_vampire> Jymmm: I have a crazy glue remover
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[00:52:20] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/QHHaPCr.png
[00:52:43] <pink_vampire> any idea how to machine it?
[00:52:44] <XXCoder> man you make weird parts. and 4.7 mm? dang thats tiny
[00:52:54] <XXCoder> suggestion? hole first, bolt down
[00:53:04] <XXCoder> side holes no idea
[00:53:27] <Duc> maybe bolt to a rotary after profile is made
[00:53:27] <pink_vampire> and I want to cut it from the shaft metal
[00:53:51] <pink_vampire> I have just 3 axis machine and cuuuute V block
[00:54:10] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: there is non-motorized rotatry position thingy
[00:54:26] <XXCoder> it uses holes and pegs so you can rotate it to certain degrees
[00:54:30] <pink_vampire> what type of steel is used to make shafts?
[00:55:56] <pink_vampire> chrome vanadium?
[00:56:11] <Duc> what kind of shafts/
[00:56:14] <Duc> ?
[00:56:17] <Duc> what purpose
[00:57:04] <pink_vampire> I have here rod of steel that used to be a shaft or something like that.
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[00:57:14] <pink_vampire> it is hard as rock
[00:57:25] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: look at left of video https://youtu.be/mreLx-t1HUA?t=405
[00:57:32] <djdelorie> that's - literally - what she said :-)
[00:57:40] <XXCoder> thats object that you can set rotation
[00:57:59] <XXCoder> later on (around 10:30) he uses it
[00:58:19] <XXCoder> ah mandel
[00:58:32] <Duc> probably a tool steel shaft I forget what some rods are
[00:59:05] <pink_vampire> it hard like a ball bearing
[00:59:38] <pink_vampire> hacksaw don't even leave a mark on it.
[01:00:00] <XXCoder> heh sounds like tool steel
[01:00:02] <XXCoder> very hard
[01:00:03] <pink_vampire> only the fiber disk on the dremel cut it.
[01:00:40] <Duc> could be A2 or d2 shaft
[01:00:42] <pink_vampire> and the finish on it is like mirror
[01:00:51] <Duc> Probably not S7
[01:00:53] <XXCoder> cant be chrome lol
[01:01:01] <XXCoder> that'd be expensive
[01:01:20] <pink_vampire> maybe chrome plated?
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[01:02:19] <Duc> Mcmaster has motion shafts out of steel 1566 that are R.C. 60 which is as hard as a wood pecker
[01:02:19] <XXCoder> maybe do basic test
[01:02:21] <XXCoder> magnet
[01:02:40] <pink_vampire> ok
[01:02:56] <XXCoder> that'll tell if its one of iron based metals or nickel or whatever
[01:03:04] <djdelorie> the ebay listing said RC58, that's pretty hard, and if it's fine ground you'd get a shiny surface even with steel
[01:03:12] <pink_vampire> is a bit magnetic
[01:03:31] <XXCoder> odd
[01:04:03] <pink_vampire> it stick to the magnet but not hard
[01:04:47] <XXCoder> well Duc any idea? heh
[01:05:13] <pink_vampire> maybe something with nickel?
[01:05:19] <Duc> its odd I dont think SS comes that hard
[01:05:50] <Duc> seen some Stainless at 42 RC but 58-62 is dam hard for steels
[01:05:52] <XXCoder> tungsein lol kidding, that'd be pretty heavy
[01:06:16] <Duc> or carbide but that would be a gold mine
[01:06:59] <pink_vampire> I need to solder it
[01:07:24] <djdelorie> some woodturning tools are up at RC63 or so, but those are special alloys
[01:07:38] <Duc> silver solder or regular?
[01:07:40] <djdelorie> and they're not cheap
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[01:08:19] <pink_vampire> regular
[01:08:37] <Duc> not sure that will work
[01:09:02] <XXCoder> I always wanted a tungsein ingot in shape of typical movie one
[01:09:05] <Duc> epoxy instead?
[01:09:11] <pink_vampire> I did a test on the side that I cut, without flux it not work, but with flux is was very good!
[01:09:18] <XXCoder> to show people how impossible some of movie stuff is
[01:09:59] <Duc> never seen a movie with a tungsten ingot
[01:10:06] <pink_vampire> me too
[01:10:07] <XXCoder> Duc: no but gold sure was
[01:10:16] <XXCoder> and tungsein has similiar density
[01:10:23] <Duc> ah
[01:11:28] <Duc> my rotary is pissing me off
[01:11:41] <Duc> stepper motors would have been a shit ton easier
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[01:23:49] <Duc> so what are you solder this rod too?
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[02:03:14] <pink_vampire> http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/10018732/Graphite_screw.html
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[02:09:55] <Duc> wonder if they cut that screw dry
[02:11:18] <gregcnc_> you bought a 52100 steel shaft and want to machine it?
[02:14:04] <pink_vampire> yes
[02:14:19] <pink_vampire> what do you think about this machine?
[02:14:21] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edSib6huuY
[02:14:41] <gregcnc_> if stainless it may be 440C
[02:14:55] <XXCoder> gregcnc_: magnet weakly sticks to it
[02:15:00] <XXCoder> which is quite odd
[02:15:04] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCwKsSMqkfw
[02:15:11] <gregcnc_> either way forget machining
[02:15:13] <pink_vampire> same machine
[02:15:54] <gregcnc_> maybe turning with CBN
[02:16:07] <gregcnc_> otherwise have it ground
[02:17:32] <XXCoder> wonder how strong graphite is
[02:18:02] <XXCoder> that is nice
[02:18:04] <pink_vampire> very soft
[02:18:13] <pink_vampire> but fragile,
[02:18:24] <XXCoder> its great for molding apparently
[02:18:27] <pink_vampire> and act like a lubricant
[02:18:38] <XXCoder> I wonder if it can be reformed into block again
[02:19:12] <gregcnc_> you cut graphite to use as electrodes to EDM molds
[02:20:06] <XXCoder> how do they make graphite blocks anyway
[02:22:54] <pink_vampire> press graphite powder
[02:23:08] <XXCoder> heh that means its basically renewable mold
[02:23:13] <XXCoder> keep graphite "chips
[02:23:15] <unfy> graphite's used in metal melting crucibles etc
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[02:23:19] <XXCoder> then press em again
[02:23:37] <unfy> it's temperature tolerant, and it can be used as electrodes for high voltage melting stuff too etc
[02:23:52] <pink_vampire> I think it's mix with wax or something like that
[02:23:59] <unfy> i dunno how it degardes over time or if it's re-usable etc
[02:24:05] <pink_vampire> and then it get baked
[02:24:27] <gregcnc_> pretty complicated it seems https://www.mersen.com/en/focus/article/manufacturing-artificial-graphite.html
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[02:25:16] <XXCoder> ow guess just pressing or someting is out
[02:25:25] <unfy> annnnnnnnnnnd... i'm fucked. was gonna grab some plywood from hardware store and take it home tonight to cut up tomorrow for air compressor box... but...too late now ._.
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[02:25:45] <unfy> anyway, heading home. to quote deejay, gn8 o/
[02:25:52] <XXCoder> heh later
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[02:26:53] <pink_vampire> I'm starving
[02:27:00] <XXCoder> what kind of jack (pointed out as "tv" http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1hrIKKpXXXXaXaXXXq6xXFXXXD/222325154/HTB1hrIKKpXXXXaXaXXXq6xXFXXXD.jpg
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[02:27:30] <pink_vampire> regular tv rf antenna
[02:28:03] <pink_vampire> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
[02:28:07] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[02:28:18] <XXCoder> interesting
[02:28:24] <XXCoder> its listed as "compsite"
[02:28:33] <XXCoder> finally found it in list
[02:28:42] <XXCoder> Composite A/V
[02:29:06] <pink_vampire> it's not compsite
[02:29:13] <XXCoder> yeah just figured that
[02:29:20] <XXCoder> its one near light
[02:29:52] <XXCoder> not bad actually, that wya I dont need second vcr to convert coax back to composite after captioning
[02:30:45] <XXCoder> $80 lcd projector not bad
[02:31:27] <XXCoder> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/CHEERLUX-C6-Mini-LED-LCD-Projector-800x480-Pixels-1200-Lumens-Home-Theater-HDMI-USB-VGA-AV/32538739201.html
[02:31:34] <XXCoder> only flaw is its noisy
[02:31:44] <XXCoder> http://www.hekalog.de/hacks-en/silencing-a-cheap-projector/ mod to make it quiet
[02:31:50] <XXCoder> I dont plan on that because me deefy
[02:32:11] <pink_vampire> that look like junk
[02:32:19] <XXCoder> it is
[02:32:28] <XXCoder> but it works good enough really
[02:32:58] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: I currently has eyeclops which has 320x240 resolution, and 50 lumen lol
[02:33:04] <XXCoder> that one'd be massive upgrade
[02:33:24] <pink_vampire> what is eyeclops ?
[02:33:32] <XXCoder> its a toy projector
[02:33:38] <pink_vampire> omg
[02:33:59] <XXCoder> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VBTkKfe8L._SX466_.jpg
[02:34:09] <XXCoder> I bought it years ago
[02:34:17] <pink_vampire> http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55JU6700FXZA
[02:34:20] <XXCoder> 2010? its been used a lot watching tv shows so on
[02:34:23] <pink_vampire> i have ^
[02:34:40] <XXCoder> yeah $800 more than my budget for tv lol
[02:34:46] <XXCoder> I dont need much money.
[02:35:09] <pink_vampire> for 200$ you can get FHD
[02:35:19] <XXCoder> I dont want a tv, a projector heh
[02:35:51] <pink_vampire> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Haier-49E4500-49-1080p-60Hz-LED-Smart-HDTV/50576585
[02:36:00] <XXCoder> I will never buy from walmart.
[02:36:20] <pink_vampire> why?
[02:37:05] <XXCoder> they treat workers very badly
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[02:39:17] <pink_vampire> I know few walmart worker and they very happy.
[02:40:14] <pink_vampire> it's the best 24/7 store
[02:40:55] <XXCoder> it may be unique to your location
[02:44:47] <pink_vampire> do you know about a hardware store that open 24/7?
[02:44:58] <XXCoder> heh that is very rare
[02:45:12] <XXCoder> if such exists at all
[02:45:36] <pink_vampire> fiber glass at 2 am..
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[02:50:10] <pink_vampire> http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN85S9-Framed-85-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00CMEN95U/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1460774863&sr=1-2&keywords=tv&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688788011|7688789011%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578043011
[02:51:06] <XXCoder> one restiff up for $36k lol
[02:51:13] <XXCoder> so cheap. I rather buy enw car though lol
[02:51:16] <XXCoder> *new
[02:52:16] <pink_vampire> read the comments.
[02:52:26] <XXCoder> ok
[02:53:35] <XXCoder> lol
[02:55:40] <pink_vampire> Question: If I buy this TV will I still be able to pay my cable bill? Answer: No, but if you sell your children into slavery you will!
[02:56:27] <XXCoder> HMM no childen to support, more time to watch tv, no worries about funding children college
[02:56:31] <XXCoder> win win win! ;)
[03:00:52] <XXCoder> https://hackaday.io/project/10573/gallery#b3c76707ba2dc898b48acdb7c7984fcb
[03:00:56] <XXCoder> that is awesome
[03:01:39] <XXCoder> project https://hackaday.io/project/10573-tide-clock-in-micropython
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[03:04:23] <jdh> I have 13 months of kid-college left
[03:07:22] <XXCoder> geeez
[03:07:38] <XXCoder> someone figured how to record 3d printer sounds and recreate 3d model on that
[03:14:41] <pink_vampire> I flat the stock
[03:15:07] <pink_vampire> worrrrrrrrk ok
[03:16:00] <pink_vampire> it make A LOT of smoke without any oil!
[03:16:41] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[03:16:48] <XXCoder> heh
[03:17:03] <XXCoder> yeah need coolant for cutting such a hard metal
[03:17:10] <XXCoder> assuming you was milling that rod
[03:17:49] <pink_vampire> it's not the O2 steel that I've used for the V block
[03:17:55] <pink_vampire> it's something else
[03:18:05] <pink_vampire> much harder
[03:18:29] <XXCoder> wish there was easier way to sort what metal it is
[03:19:13] <pink_vampire> how in the factory they test it?
[03:19:26] <XXCoder> chemistry im sure
[03:19:42] <XXCoder> few methods. I'm no metallogist so dunno
[03:19:56] <pink_vampire> I know that they take a sample from the molten metal
[03:20:15] <XXCoder> im sure theres methods besides that lemme google
[03:20:32] <XXCoder> http://www.apmtesting.com/testing-services/materials-tested/metal-testing.php
[03:22:38] <pink_vampire> http://www.leco.com/products/analytical-sciences/glow-discharge-atomic-emission-spectroscopy/gds850
[03:23:32] <XXCoder> fancy.
[03:23:54] <pink_vampire> so this is what I need to get..
[03:24:31] <XXCoder> probably litte bit nehind your means
[03:24:31] <pink_vampire> you get the metal for free, and test it on your "Glow Discharge Atomic Emission Spectrometer"
[03:24:36] <XXCoder> unless you really is rich
[03:24:43] <XXCoder> or your parents or uncle
[03:25:04] <pink_vampire> I'm not rich :(
[03:25:27] <XXCoder> too bad, planned to ask if can give me a million or 2 lol joking
[03:25:39] <pink_vampire> no way
[03:25:41] <pink_vampire> http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=668613
[03:25:59] <XXCoder> goverment surplus tend to be low priced
[03:26:17] <XXCoder> probably add another zero to that price for new
[03:26:23] <XXCoder> or 2 or 3
[03:27:22] <pink_vampire> :(
[03:27:44] <XXCoder> yeah its worth it if you need to identify LOTs of metal
[03:27:49] <XXCoder> but out of range for home
[03:29:02] <pink_vampire> I just think it's cool to have..
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[03:56:45] <XXCoder> heh there is many stuff I think is cool that i cant have
[04:00:35] <evil_ren> like ferrari dino 246gt
[04:00:49] <evil_ren> and lamborghini muira
[04:00:57] <evil_ren> and porsche 550
[04:02:55] <pink_vampire> and any car that you can paint in pink for me :)
[04:03:14] <XXCoder> junkyard car + cheap paint.. $20,000 for you ;)
[04:03:27] <XXCoder> no, I dont know why ladies stuff usually has higher price.
[04:08:20] <pink_vampire> me too
[04:15:58] <Jymmm> http://cdn.pinthiscars.com/images/honda-s2000-fast-and-furious-wallpaper-1.jpg
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[04:17:41] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPBX4YlGoxw
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[04:21:51] <pink_vampire> Jymmm: CUTE!
[04:25:48] <pink_vampire> I'm not sure how much to take with the cutter?
[04:26:37] <pink_vampire> carbide 1/8" 4F end mill.
[04:27:16] <pink_vampire> any idea?
[04:28:02] <XXCoder> with unknown metal its hard to say
[04:28:56] <pink_vampire> if it was SS
[04:29:04] <pink_vampire> 45hrc..
[04:29:25] <XXCoder> probably reasonable to assume its quite hard metal
[04:29:33] <XXCoder> ss is close enough maybe? dunno
[04:30:29] <pink_vampire> I have 10 feet of it...
[04:30:44] <pink_vampire> and I need 3.5mm
[04:31:03] <pink_vampire> but I don't have a lot of end mills
[04:31:27] <pink_vampire> 0.1mm deep and 0.1mm side?
[04:31:42] <pink_vampire> 50mm/min feed rate?
[04:33:00] <XXCoder> unfortunately I dont know enough about feed rates
[04:33:12] <XXCoder> maybe set to that speed
[04:33:20] <XXCoder> but set low % of feed rate
[04:33:29] <XXCoder> then increase till cutting sounds is decent
[04:34:45] <pink_vampire> it's 7$ end mill
[04:37:29] <XXCoder> not too bad really
[04:37:37] <XXCoder> most tools is more expensive than that
[04:38:07] <pink_vampire> I really want it to last for more then one part.
[04:38:48] <XXCoder> yeah but then its cheap tools to learn on
[04:39:15] <XXCoder> I once broke $300 tool at internship by mistake. not cheap tool to make mistake on.
[04:39:27] <XXCoder> it was 8 inches long inch diameter
[04:39:34] <pink_vampire> omg..
[04:39:36] <XXCoder> (8 inches is just flutes)
[04:39:54] <XXCoder> yeah thankfully theyre fine as it was part of internship
[04:39:55] <pink_vampire> what machine?
[04:40:04] <XXCoder> bridgeport
[04:40:11] <pink_vampire> manual machine?
[04:40:15] <XXCoder> yeah
[04:40:51] <pink_vampire> 8" from R8..
[04:41:02] <pink_vampire> that something..
[04:41:56] <XXCoder> It was to cut long and thin part on side
[04:42:09] <XXCoder> pressing part towards steel block
[04:42:42] <XXCoder> unfortunately while finding Z I acciently pressed tool on 123 block too hard
[04:42:50] <XXCoder> and small chip broke off
[04:47:48] <pink_vampire> 81296 lines of Gcode!!
[04:47:51] <pink_vampire> OMG!!
[04:48:54] <XXCoder> crazy old fadal'd cut off at half that lol
[04:49:08] <XXCoder> old fadal only has 40k byte memory or thereabouts
[04:50:10] <pink_vampire> it's say that going to take 2:30 hours..
[04:51:44] <XXCoder> crazy. curved surfaces?
[04:52:43] <pink_vampire> no
[04:52:46] <pink_vampire> 2d
[04:54:15] <XXCoder> strange
[04:54:17] <Wolf_> thats it? I did a 8hr run on the x1 :D
[04:54:43] <pink_vampire> x1?
[04:54:55] <Wolf_> crappy flexy mill
[04:55:15] <pink_vampire> I'm sure that I can run faster
[04:55:37] <pink_vampire> but I never cut super hard steel
[04:55:51] <pink_vampire> it's hard like 123block
[04:56:23] <Wolf_> 123 block hard = grinding not mill...
[04:56:50] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/IKemF8k.png?1 took a while to make
[04:57:31] <XXCoder> she needs quite complex part made in that metal
[04:57:55] <pink_vampire> it's not have to be that
[04:58:19] <pink_vampire> it can be any metal
[04:59:49] <XXCoder> maybe good idea change heh dunno
[05:00:21] <CaptHindsight> http://60abc.com/sharps-adorable-robot-phone-is-a-not-so-cute-1800/
[05:00:49] <pink_vampire> AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[05:00:54] <pink_vampire> cuute
[05:01:13] <CaptHindsight> I want one that can run the machine while I'm at the beach
[05:01:37] <pink_vampire> rdp..
[05:03:57] <XXCoder> $1,800 it better be able to code programs for me
[05:04:17] <XXCoder> and find new mathicial proofs while bored on side job
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[06:44:54] <Deejay> moin
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[07:16:18] <yasnak> Morning
[07:37:39] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
[07:37:46] <pink_vampire> hi yasnak
[07:37:59] <yasnak> Whats good?
[07:38:13] <XXCoder> heys
[07:39:22] <yasnak> ugh, tired but want to finish shit.
[07:39:37] <XXCoder> you have to, or you'll be pooping in bed
[07:39:46] <yasnak> If I go to bed too late though I'll never go to sleep and then tomorrow day is shot
[07:39:48] <yasnak> True
[07:40:12] <yasnak> But I'm a grown man, I make my own decisions. :P
[07:41:13] <XXCoder> yep gonna bear to burden of your results from decisions :)
[07:42:46] <yasnak> always ;)
[07:43:41] <pink_vampire> sooo cold here
[07:44:07] <yasnak> Need to do brakes on my truck tomorrow. Never thought of using a mechanic until moving to Florida. Without a garage/house yet it really sucks during summer.
[07:47:34] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Static-Solutions-Anti-Static-Clean-Room-Hand-Lotion-HL-3408-New-8oz-Bottle-/201510593193?hash=item2eeaf7a2a9:g:FF4AAOSwpRRWpScx
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[07:53:58] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Crane-Machine-Replacement-Claws-Small-Size-6-1-4-Inch-/301208432870?hash=item46216bf0e6:g:aikAAOxy9dVTk11f
[07:54:20] <XXCoder> making a toy crane? heh
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[08:38:46] <pink_vampire> no.
[08:38:48] <pink_vampire> but
[08:39:00] <pink_vampire> I have new art nails
[08:40:42] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/HJTGW2L.png
[08:40:51] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[08:41:02] <XXCoder> so that was what it was for
[08:41:13] <pink_vampire> no..
[08:41:14] <MrSunshine_> wtf ...
[08:41:14] <XXCoder> so it worked eh
[08:41:26] <pink_vampire> yes.
[08:41:31] <XXCoder> MrSunshine_: I have seen more insane art
[08:41:35] <XXCoder> hers is sane comparatibely
[08:41:37] <XXCoder> so whatever
[08:41:43] <MrSunshine_> how does one even go about the day with nails like that?!
[08:41:53] <MrSunshine_> hell if mine are over 2mm long i break them :P
[08:42:05] <pink_vampire> I have a cnc..
[08:42:10] <MrSunshine_> haha
[08:42:15] <pink_vampire> I never work with my hands.
[08:42:16] <MrSunshine_> but just reaching into a pocket or something
[08:42:19] <MrSunshine_> =)
[08:42:32] <pink_vampire> and my BF help me. (a lot)
[08:42:40] <MrSunshine_> haha =)
[08:42:47] <MrSunshine_> just so you can have long nails? :P
[08:42:56] <pink_vampire> yes.
[08:43:07] <archivist> so he can have damaged nuts
[08:43:09] <MrSunshine_> sigh .. sorry but .. sigh
[08:43:09] <MrSunshine_> =)
[08:43:26] <pink_vampire> damaged nuts?
[08:44:02] <archivist> wedding tackle
[08:44:53] <XXCoder> yeah nuts with stick near it
[08:45:02] <XXCoder> sometimes floppy sometimes hard stick
[08:45:03] <pink_vampire> anyway, I cut it with carbide tool 4F 1/8", 1000 rpm, 100mm/min, 0.1mm deep, 0.7mm side
[08:45:16] <pink_vampire> the tap was hss from ebay.
[08:45:37] <pink_vampire> work ok~.. the tap guide was very helpful!!
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[08:46:18] <pink_vampire> then I part it from the stock. and now I need to remove the rest from the bottom.
[08:46:29] <pink_vampire> and drill 3 holes on the sides.
[08:46:38] <pink_vampire> any idea?
[08:46:56] <pink_vampire> I can't hold it with the screw it will spin
[08:47:21] <XXCoder> screw AND something else to prevent rotation
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[08:47:35] <pink_vampire> like??
[08:47:43] <XXCoder> not too sure actually
[08:48:05] <XXCoder> it being so tiny makes it bit hard lol
[08:48:19] <XXCoder> luckly drilling shouldnt be too stressful
[08:48:48] <XXCoder> maybe round bar or something fit under it between 2 downwards parts so it cant rotate
[08:48:57] <XXCoder> not sure how to secure that bar though
[08:49:00] <pink_vampire> I'm thinking about hold it in the vise with parallel, and dowel pin
[08:50:01] <pink_vampire> archivist?? any idea.. you are the king of small machining stuff
[08:52:02] <pink_vampire> archivist: ?
[08:52:07] <pink_vampire> O_O
[08:53:16] <XXCoder> talking about ball tackling, so, where is this guy hands https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4005778688/h28AFA460/
[08:55:07] <pink_vampire> OMG
[08:56:48] <pink_vampire> I'm using tweezers for the setup!
[09:10:16] <pink_vampire> I killed it :(
[09:10:24] <pink_vampire> again :(
[09:10:36] <XXCoder> doh so tweezer didnt work?
[09:11:14] <pink_vampire> the vise crack the part :(
[09:11:30] <XXCoder> hmm yea harder = more brittle usually
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[09:19:59] <pink_vampire> yeah..
[09:20:13] <pink_vampire> I'm starting again
[09:23:40] <XXCoder> cool
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[09:47:41] <archivist> I make small parts on a stick of material for holding, last op is to cut off
[09:52:53] <XXCoder> that does seem better way
[09:53:09] <XXCoder> no need to clamp on tiny part just clamp on rest fo rod
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[09:54:29] <archivist> example this part 3mm dia http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2009/2009_08_14_cnc_watch_verge_escape_wheel/IMG_0273.JPG
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[09:55:10] <XXCoder> man your pics is always too huge
[09:55:44] <archivist> full resolution :) nowt taken out
[09:56:24] <archivist> part is easy to locate in a collet in the rotary or lathe for 2nd op
[09:57:11] <XXCoder> she dont have one
[09:57:23] <XXCoder> and her design is quite odd
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[10:00:11] <archivist> I have no idea what she is making
[10:02:48] <XXCoder> possible nail decocation?
[10:02:56] <XXCoder> she did show pic of it on her nail
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[11:28:10] <malcom2073> Looking at making a water passage, wondering what the best way to seal it: http://i.imgur.com/rltAAox.png
[11:28:16] <malcom2073> Low pressure water, just a couple PSI
[11:28:44] <XXCoder> seal wat surface?
[11:28:47] <XXCoder> the top?
[11:28:55] <malcom2073> Yeah, that's 16" by 2"
[11:29:01] <malcom2073> Basically a flat top
[11:29:17] <malcom2073> Would it be easier to cut a groove and use a round rubber oring (Stuff is only 0.30 per ft), or to cut something out of gasket material, and do you think that's enough bolt holes?
[11:29:17] <XXCoder> psi that low its probably just rubber gasket
[11:29:25] <XXCoder> nice and little bit tight and its sealed
[11:29:38] <XXCoder> cant advise on enough holes or not really
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[11:32:02] <XXCoder> malcom2073: if you want extra strength add groove
[11:32:10] <XXCoder> and use thoicker sealant
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[11:32:53] <malcom2073> The goove I think would make it easier to hold the ring in place during sealing
[11:33:22] <XXCoder> yeah makes it harder to blow out
[11:33:30] <XXCoder> though for 2 psi say its massive overkill
[11:33:42] <XXCoder> get 2 psi design for 20 psi I say lol
[11:34:40] <malcom2073> Heh, yeah I mean the groove would be for ease of assembly, not functionally needed
[11:34:48] <malcom2073> And with a cnc, such a groove is trivial :P
[11:35:37] <XXCoder> indeed
[11:35:59] <XXCoder> will you put its inverse on cover or just smooth
[11:36:08] <malcom2073> Smooth
[11:36:23] <Encapsulation> I'll buy at walmart if it's cheapest there =D
[11:36:55] <malcom2073> The other question, is should I NPT tap the ends and use brass fittings, or is there a better option?
[11:36:58] <XXCoder> bleh it is your right
[11:43:24] <malcom2073> Encapsulation: Bought something yet?
[11:43:45] <XXCoder> malcom2073: what is that thing material anyway
[11:43:52] <malcom2073> XXCoder: aluminum
[11:44:20] <XXCoder> hm considering its low pressure I guess tap and bolt probably fine, assuming it is not to be serviced a lot times
[11:44:39] <malcom2073> Should never have to be opened up
[11:44:52] <XXCoder> indeed.
[11:45:24] <Encapsulation> malcom2073, I was at a sustainability conference, I had to put it on hold. I'm hoping to make a decision this weekend
[11:45:47] <Encapsulation> Someone posted in my thread saying omio hasnt been responding to any of their emails - pre-sale - so that gave me cause for concern
[11:45:57] <malcom2073> Heh, that sounds exciting as hell
[11:46:34] <XXCoder> no contact? they wont contact you for support
[11:46:42] <XXCoder> move on I guess
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[13:23:42] <maxcnc> hi all
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[13:24:34] <maxcnc> as i read the undicided haas not made a dicission yet
[13:25:04] <maxcnc> thanks to him i no making 100100 mashies the 4th nowcorderd
[13:25:12] <maxcnc> ;-)
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[13:25:55] <maxcnc> have a nice day
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[13:54:57] <enleth> servo drives arrived
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[13:56:49] <gregcnc_> do you have connectors?
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[13:58:34] <enleth> well that's one of the problems - Copley used a single very long 2.54mm raster connector for all I/O instead of screw terminals
[13:59:26] <gregcnc_> 0.1" pitch connectors should be easy to find
[13:59:41] <enleth> I can't even swap them for screw terminals easily because the leads of this connector are pretty far from the board edge
[13:59:57] <enleth> gregcnc_: it's a 16 pin connector
[14:00:06] <enleth> I've never ever seen a connector of this type with so many pins
[14:00:21] <gregcnc_> do the manuals list a part number?
[14:00:58] <enleth> and unless it's one of those plug-in screw terminal types, it must be a huge PITA to assemble
[14:02:03] <enleth> gonzo_: not really
[14:02:48] <enleth> crap
[14:02:50] <enleth> gregcnc_: ^
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[14:03:03] <gregcnc_> which drive?
[14:03:17] <gregcnc_> manuals list molex p/n
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[14:03:29] <enleth> Copley Controls 423
[14:05:03] <gregcnc_> 403 manuals says Molex: 22-01-3147 housing with 08-50-0114 pins
[14:06:11] <gregcnc_> same 16 pin as on the AMC I used in the lathe
[14:08:00] <gregcnc_> tedious, but not PITA
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[14:18:46] <JT-Shop> heading to Guido's Pizzeria & Tapas on the Hill for lunch http://www.guidosstl.com/ on the Bluewing
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[14:51:25] <enleth> gregcnc_: OK, thanks, the manual I have for 423 does not seem to include this piece of information
[14:51:49] <enleth> gregcnc_: what I meant by PITA is that it's not quick and easy to swap wires in this
[14:52:06] <enleth> really a row of low-gauge screw terminals would be much more convenient
[14:52:22] <enleth> or preferably, unpluggable screw terminals
[14:52:24] <archivist> it is if you have the special tool
[14:52:34] <enleth> there's really no excuse for not using those in expensive equipment
[14:52:57] <archivist> screws come loose, crimps generally dont
[14:53:07] <gregcnc_> butthe drive itself is intended to be swapped in the equipment. unplug swap replug
[14:53:22] <enleth> archivist: shitty screw terminals do come loose
[14:54:32] <enleth> gregcnc_: that's why this was invented: http://www.uctronics.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/10pcs-2edg-2pin-plug-screw-terminal-block-connector-508mm-pitch-right-angle-0d3a8036-800x800.jpg
[14:54:50] <enleth> other than being bulky, it's the best of both worlds
[14:54:56] <gregcnc_> use them
[14:55:56] <enleth> as I said, I can't swap this molex header for those because it's an angle type with PCB leads offset from the PCB edge much farther than an upright header would do
[14:57:03] <enleth> so I'm probably stuck with it as it is
[15:01:34] <enleth> gregcnc_: molex 22-01-3147 is 14 pin, this is 16 pin, but I know all I need anyway
[15:02:10] <enleth> it's Molex KK 2.54mm 1row
[15:02:34] <enleth> after who knows how many years of handling those connectors I finally know that this type is called KK by Molex
[15:04:31] <enleth> the one I need is apparently 22-01-2165
[15:13:37] <gregcnc_> any chance these would fit the existing connector?
[15:13:43] <gregcnc_> http://www.newark.com/phoenix-contact/fmc-0-5-2-st-2-54/pluggable-terminal-block-2-160/dp/12X8591
[15:19:24] <enleth> hard to say
[15:19:29] <enleth> the headers for those are SMT
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[15:20:01] <enleth> actually an angle header with 2.54mm pitch could fit in there and stick out enough to be usable
[15:21:14] <enleth> http://img.hisupplier.com/var/userImages/2015-11/13/105132282_s.jpg - like this but wider, or two side by side if the shell tickness permits
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[17:29:29] <yasnak> Anyone ever used one of those nanostation's from ubiquity? Need something cheap, simple and reliable. Want to get away from dropping actual rj45 to each machine for networking. I'd have them on a separate network of course.
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[17:35:54] <ReadError> yasnak
[17:36:00] <ReadError> any ole dd-wrt will work
[17:36:09] <ReadError> thats how I have my basement setup
[17:36:15] <ReadError> bridge w/ 4 ports
[17:36:38] <ReadError> 15$ and you're done
[17:36:49] <yasnak> already using their ap-pros and the controller. figured it would be nice not to add more to the equation. but yeah, was just wondering if there is anything that springs out as bad before going ahead :P
[17:37:42] <ReadError> yea works fine
[17:38:00] <ReadError> im guessing wired is better on the OS side of things too
[17:38:05] <ReadError> just a hunch
[17:38:30] <_methods> i'm using the ap-ac lites
[17:38:44] <_methods> i used the ap pro forever love that thing
[17:38:51] <_methods> ubiquiti makes great stuff
[17:39:23] <yasnak> yeah, i have two for our entire shop
[17:39:40] <_methods> yeah i took my old ap pro into work
[17:39:51] <_methods> now i have 2 ap ac lites at the house
[17:40:08] <yasnak> all of 100 a piece? lasted three years and easily supports 40+ people on either. two ssid's, public and private networks
[17:40:19] <yasnak> its good stuff ;p
[17:40:37] <yasnak> but yeah, wired. i may need to wire some of the mills for drip feed :/
[17:40:48] <_methods> yeah i love it
[17:41:56] <_methods> i've never tried their nanostations though
[17:42:08] <_methods> wtf are they supposed to do?
[17:42:45] <yasnak> https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/picostationm/
[17:43:41] <_methods> oh so it's an exterior grade AP?
[17:44:11] <yasnak> They've got all sorts of shit, this is the lowest and smallest. You can make it a client, bridge, AP. Its all within the controller itself
[17:44:44] <_methods> yeah the only thing i don't like about ubiquiti is their controller thing
[17:45:17] <yasnak> Same but I already have a server so its fine. For home use you just need it to set it up or to adjust the access points. Then turn it off.
[17:45:35] <_methods> they're also fairly hostile to open source community
[17:45:59] <_methods> yeah i use pfsense for my router and i just use the controller for initial setup
[17:47:56] <yasnak> yeah. sonicwall here.
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[18:45:11] <_abc_> Hello. Does anyone know what kind of motors the ~$250 with VFD spindles, 2kW, water cooled, sold on ebay are? PM bldc or induction?
[18:49:37] <jdh> haven't seen any 2kw ones. The 1.5 and 2.2kw ones are
[18:49:49] <jdh> are bldc, 3phase output from teh vfd
[18:50:45] <_abc_> 2.2kW say. But what tech? induction or permanent magnet? (PM)
[18:51:27] <jdh> that is the extent of my knowledge of mine :)
[18:56:00] <yasnak> _methods: you don't happen to work at methods do you? lol
[18:56:19] <_methods> nopew
[18:56:21] <_methods> lol
[18:56:27] <yasnak> ;)
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[19:05:08] <gregcnc> i'm pretty sure those are induction motors
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[19:41:17] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/OwqJg For those with CNC routers
[19:42:12] <gregcnc> the comments....
[19:42:35] <SpeedEvil> yeah - I question the praticality
[19:42:47] <malcom2073> I'll bet they're heavy as hell
[19:43:14] <gregcnc> unless they use ikea grade ply
[19:45:00] <XXCoder> if I made that I'd make it easy to pull apart type.
[19:45:38] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: it must have hit someones kink
[19:46:03] <XXCoder> mrbear13 must have just discovered that lol
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[20:32:46] <MrSunshine_> https://www.maskinisten.net/viewtopic.php?t=28749 neat little shaper =)
[21:00:59] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:55:14] <XXCoder> MrSunshine_: looking
[21:55:56] <XXCoder> whats it do? looks kinda like horzonal mill
[21:56:42] <MrSunshine_> its a shaper... manual =)
[21:57:10] <XXCoder> whats shaper?
[21:57:59] <XXCoder> looking at youtube
[21:58:24] <XXCoder> weird, lmost lathe style for flat surfaced
[22:10:04] <JT-Shop> now to trouble shoot the BP
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[22:11:28] <Tom_itx> what's goin on with the BP?
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[22:14:47] <JT-Shop> won't boot up
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[22:19:43] <XXCoder> MrSunshine_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n60lHUD8US8 looks very much like lathe in cut stule
[22:19:47] <XXCoder> style
[22:20:07] <XXCoder> only no roation of course
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[22:20:58] <MrSunshine_> yeah uses the same style tooling
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[22:21:11] <MrSunshine_> old timey milling machines so to say
[22:21:27] <XXCoder> yeah i wonder why its not used anymore nowdays
[22:21:38] <XXCoder> I can forsee usefulness if it can be cnc-ized
[22:21:44] <XXCoder> interior sharp corners for one
[22:21:55] <MrSunshine_> cause vertical milling machines are far more effective
[22:22:03] <XXCoder> for most stuff yeah
[22:22:09] <MrSunshine_> and we got broatches for keyways etc
[22:22:19] <XXCoder> keyways cant be used in cnc
[22:22:25] <XXCoder> broaches that is
[22:22:38] <enleth> reading some guy's DIY CO2 laser guide. one of the steps he performed: find a street clown who fills balloons with helium to obtain helium for the lasing gas mix
[22:23:01] <enleth> this may be one of the best examples of necessay yak shaving I've ever heard about
[22:23:08] <XXCoder> enleth: theres a cheap way to buy helium boyyle
[22:23:15] <XXCoder> so yea
[22:23:19] <jdh> never seen a clown filling helium balloons
[22:23:44] <jdh> the diy co2 lasers I've read about use nitrogen
[22:24:05] <enleth> jdh: helium is an optional additive to the usual CO2/N mix
[22:24:08] <XXCoder> MrSunshine_: I wonder if it is possible to weakly use shaper style tools with strong enough Z axis
[22:24:13] <XXCoder> just go up and down
[22:24:25] <XXCoder> though stress might screw with z positioning
[22:24:49] <jdh> I have about 20,000 liters of Helium in the garage
[22:24:53] <MrSunshine_> sure i guess
[22:24:53] <MrSunshine_> i use my lathe as a shaper from time to time
[22:24:54] <MrSunshine_> to make keyways and stuff
[22:25:09] <jdh> but, I'm not a street clown
[22:25:23] <XXCoder> BOMB!!!
[22:25:25] <XXCoder> ;)
[22:28:07] <DaViruz> MrSunshine_: i've done that a few times, i find it to be a real pain in the ass :)
[22:28:24] <DaViruz> having to make hundreds of passes for a tiny keyway
[22:29:25] <MrSunshine_> yeap
[22:29:25] <MrSunshine_> but it works =)
[22:29:25] <MrSunshine_> made two T5 wheels with like 24 coggs for the router that way also =)
[22:29:33] <MrSunshine_> T5 profile that is
[22:29:49] <DaViruz> that takes some commitment
[22:30:01] <DaViruz> not steel though i hope?
[22:30:03] <MrSunshine_> or to little money to buy it :P
[22:30:08] <MrSunshine_> alu
[22:30:19] <XXCoder> LOW MONEY GIVES ONE HUGE AMOUNT OF COMMITMENT.
[22:30:22] <XXCoder> oops caps
[22:30:35] <MrSunshine_> XXCoder: hehe =)
[22:30:42] <MrSunshine_> low on money is the mother of all invention
[22:30:47] <XXCoder> indeed
[22:30:58] <XXCoder> though it isnt sole reason
[22:31:07] <XXCoder> sometimes its fame, sometimes its to help lot people
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[22:31:15] <MrSunshine_> use scrap, build something usefull to make money =)
[22:32:21] <DaViruz> i find that lazyness is the mother of all invention
[22:32:32] <MrSunshine_> that is also true =)
[22:32:42] <DaViruz> work smarter, not harder!
[22:33:00] <MrSunshine_> mm
[22:33:03] <XXCoder> indeed
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[22:36:32] <pink_vampire> another fail
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[22:36:56] <andypugh> Experience is what you get when you don’t get what you wanted.
[22:37:08] <pink_vampire> I have to find better way to cut the part from the stock.
[22:37:45] <pink_vampire> andypugh: it's true, and very important
[22:37:48] <andypugh> How was the Fail manifested? (I just got here)
[22:38:57] <pink_vampire> this is the part http://i.imgur.com/QHHaPCr.png
[22:39:08] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: archivist suggests dont cut part off rod till its mostly complete
[22:39:26] <pink_vampire> this is how it done http://i.imgur.com/HJTGW2L.png
[22:39:31] <XXCoder> easier to hold it for critical stages like holes on sides
[22:39:36] <andypugh> It’s very tiiny, isn’t it?
[22:39:51] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: but I finished with is. so I have to cut it from the stock.
[22:40:10] <pink_vampire> andypugh: yes it's very small.
[22:40:10] <XXCoder> so issue is cutting it off stock?
[22:40:12] <jdh> what does it do?
[22:41:07] <pink_vampire> is very special nut
[22:41:09] <andypugh> I would finish by holding it in a very small 3-jaw chuck on the mill table, and facing it off.
[22:41:27] <XXCoder> thats good idea. far more secure on 3 jaw.
[22:41:44] <andypugh> I think I might drill the holes in the sides first, before milling the profile.
[22:41:51] <pink_vampire> i did the same on the vise and it crack the part.
[22:42:43] <andypugh> I wouldn’t be able to see such a small part properly to make it :-)
[22:43:12] <andypugh> A friend who makes tiny things has USB microscopes and monitors set up.
[22:43:18] <pink_vampire> I'm using magnifier and tweezers
[22:43:23] <jdh> thread it on a stud and chuck it in the lathe and face it
[22:43:45] <pink_vampire> jdh: I need a lathe first..
[22:44:16] <andypugh> (I have linked this before, but wow! http://www.f1-2000.co.uk/img/Conrods/480x360/F1-2000-conrod-S.jpg )
[22:44:52] <jdh> pink_vampire: http://tinyurl.com/zfs4wbh
[22:44:54] <DaViruz> wow indeed
[22:45:03] <andypugh> pink_vampire: Do you have a dividing head?
[22:45:07] <DaViruz> more impressive then a real one
[22:45:10] <DaViruz> than?
[22:45:14] <andypugh> DaViruz: Actually titanium, too.
[22:45:17] <DaViruz> i can never keep them apart
[22:45:40] <pink_vampire> jdh: that a cute lathe!
[22:45:50] <jdh> found it on craigslist
[22:46:19] <andypugh> The “Manson” is even cuter
[22:46:54] <pink_vampire> andypugh: you made those micro parts??
[22:47:44] <DaViruz> on another note, injectors for gasoline direct injection are a pain in the ass
[22:47:53] <andypugh> pink_vampire: No, someone else I know did them.
[22:48:25] <DaViruz> these particular ones require you to have a set of 5 different tools just to change the seal on them
[22:48:31] <andypugh> DaViruz: Luckily his engine is indirect injection, so the injectors were “easy”. (I have seen them, they work)
[22:49:04] <andypugh> DaViruz: http://www.f1-2000.co.uk/index.php?f=fuel_injectors
[22:50:29] <DaViruz> i'm quite impressed byu the fuel rail as well
[22:50:35] <MrSunshine_> mount it in a lathe and face the back of? =)
[22:50:38] <MrSunshine_> pink_vampire:
[22:51:29] <pink_vampire> very impressive parts
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[23:06:39] <andypugh> MrSunshine_: She has no lathe. But a small 3-jaw lathe chuck is probably the way to hold the part. (and the starting rod).
[23:07:01] <andypugh> Also, the three-jaws of the chuck could be used to index for the 3 holes.
[23:07:21] <MrSunshine_> mm
[23:09:02] <XXCoder> wow quite small jaw
[23:09:21] <XXCoder> andypugh: can always just buy 3 jaw dont need a lathe
[23:09:33] <XXCoder> can clamp it on mill table
[23:09:42] <XXCoder> easier to hold some round or odd shaped parts
[23:09:48] <andypugh> That was my proposal. A 3-jaw on the mill is great for round parts.
[23:10:06] <XXCoder> s/small jaws/small parts'
[23:10:13] <andypugh> You can probe a tube first, then know that the origin is in the middle of the work too.
[23:10:22] <XXCoder> indeed.
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[23:14:12] <andypugh> one of my mill macros puts polygons of arbitrary size and number of sides on the and of a bar held in a 3-jaw like that.
[23:14:49] <FloppyDisk> Dumb Question - do you mount the 3 jaw chuck into the t-slots of the table? I'm thinking a 'lone' lathe 3 jaw chuck in my head??
[23:15:08] <FloppyDisk> Not sure how I'd mount it? good idea, want to use it in the future, I think.
[23:15:18] <XXCoder> FloppyDisk: T nuts and double end screws
[23:15:21] <XXCoder> so on
[23:15:24] <XXCoder> not very complex
[23:15:44] <gregcnc> I just crush the chuck in my vise, lgihtly
[23:16:18] <FloppyDisk> I would prefer not to crush it in my vice. I've seen collet holders that have holes and bolt to the table/t-slots.
[23:16:20] <yasnak> I'd pull it down using T-Slots. You could crush but...nah
[23:17:00] <FloppyDisk> I'm not very good w/ lathe parts, but a 3 jaw chuck for a 9x20 has a threaded mounting hole. Ahhh... I need a plate to screw it to?
[23:17:09] <gregcnc> but I have a vertical 5C chuck always on the table for smaller parts. I just need to find a 5c shank for it or get another with one
[23:17:19] <JT-Shop> found a mb with a pci slot that boots up so it is not the power supply or the hd
[23:17:23] <FloppyDisk> Those vertical 4c chcucks are nice..
[23:17:46] <FloppyDisk> JT-Shop - maybe it's Mint. J/K!
[23:18:02] <JT-Shop> and it has a com port, I'm in business
[23:18:05] <XXCoder> you dont have to actyually can just clamp it on top down or whatever
[23:18:14] <XXCoder> thats good for holding round parts
[23:18:17] <JT-Shop> now to find a case that it fits in
[23:18:46] <FloppyDisk> XXCoder - ahhh, Yes. That will work. Like I said, have the chuck in my head, but not that familiar. That would work.
[23:19:16] <XXCoder> if chuck is a small one, can use 2 V blocks and vice
[23:19:34] <XXCoder> though not too sure how much force would damage its precision if you care about that
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[23:19:40] <yasnak> No
[23:19:49] <yasnak> If its a company chuck...don't do that
[23:20:06] <FloppyDisk> Be back in a few - need to reboot...
[23:20:08] <JT-Shop> now to find a com port with all 10 pins on the plug...
[23:20:10] <gregcnc> you can get 3" china chucks for 70usd
[23:20:10] <yasnak> Pull down just like when its in lathe.
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[23:20:16] <yasnak> or that
[23:20:35] <yasnak> I was going to say...just make a subplate and mount the chuck using trhe same screw holes as you would on the lathe.
[23:20:36] <XXCoder> place I work at never use chucks used for table mount on actual lathes
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[23:20:54] <yasnak> Then hold the sub plate to the machine bed. Done.
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[23:21:05] <gregcnc> mill chucks are not intended to be spun
[23:21:13] <XXCoder> that is better if you cant afford chuck just for mill uses
[23:21:20] <XXCoder> gregcnc: indeed
[23:22:03] <XXCoder> also how tall is that 3" chucks?
[23:22:11] <XXCoder> might find one useful for holding some parts
[23:22:19] <XXCoder> but height is limited
[23:23:14] <gregcnc> my bison 80mm is ~57mm tall
[23:24:04] <XXCoder> 2 1/2 inch tall. barely doable if I dont need that much height on part itself.
[23:24:28] <XXCoder> 2.25 actually
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[23:30:27] <pink_vampire> http://www.grizzly.com/products/4-x-6-Micro-Metal-Lathe/G0745
[23:31:20] <XXCoder> 350
[23:31:24] <XXCoder> not very expensive
[23:34:49] <JT-Shop> or find a whole computer and it's a p4
[23:34:59] <JT-Shop> had ubuntu 12
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