#linuxcnc | Logs for 2016-02-27

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[00:00:01] <minibnz> i initially read that as 20 pos per rev..
[00:00:17] <enleth> by the way, I found this yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/user/featony/videos
[00:00:17] <andypugh> minibnz: I see 3 pins and is says 20 bits. So it’s one of the setial protocols. But which one?
[00:00:42] <enleth> perfect camera work, better wits than AvE
[00:01:17] <minibnz> oh i though it would have been a quadrature output.. but that said i have not gotten as far as a datasheet yet.. was just looking last night before i went to bed at 4am with a new idea in my scone..
[00:02:34] <XXCoder> 20 bits means 0.000343323 degree
[00:02:39] <XXCoder> pretty dang sensive
[00:02:56] <minibnz> hmmm that might be too many pulses to keep up with.
[00:03:13] <andypugh> They might mean 1048576 pulses per rev, of course.
[00:03:41] <andypugh> But if it _is_ serial then keping count is less critical
[00:03:43] <minibnz> yeah thats a shite load.... :) how many pulses is the minimum requirement? 20? 48? 200?
[00:04:01] <enleth> minibnz: if that's too much for the uC you'd like to use, don't back off, just make a divider using some fast integrated counters
[00:04:04] <minibnz> i was thinking it would be best to match it to the stepper steps..
[00:04:28] <enleth> minibnz: it's better to have more and divide it than to pass up some good encoders
[00:04:35] <andypugh> Arduino UARTS are 8 bits. SPI might handle 20 bits
[00:04:37] <minibnz> enleth thats an idea.. just need to keep the signals in phase..
[00:04:51] <enleth> minibnz: I'd absolutely go that route
[00:05:16] <andypugh> Resolvers are cool :-)
[00:05:23] <enleth> you can replace the uC with a DSP-capable chip in the future or something
[00:06:25] <minibnz> hehehe i have no concerns of being able to capture the quadrature signals in a MCU (DSpic or PIC32 will do nicelly) but i was hoping it would just hook into the parport/mesa card...
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[00:06:56] <minibnz> if i get it to the PIC the problem then becomes how to get that into linuxcnc in a timely mannor..
[00:07:18] <andypugh> If you have a Mesa card then several serial absolute encoder protocols are supported
[00:07:28] <minibnz> usb has too many random delays to be useful the serial port might be quick enough..
[00:07:32] <enleth> minibnz: ah, a DSpic should be able to handle that just fine
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[00:08:08] <enleth> I hate PICs but I'll give them this - it's hard to find another uC with so much DSP capabilites
[00:08:39] <andypugh> SSI, BiSS, Fanuc, BSPI: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#Synchronous%20Serial%20Interface%20(SSI)
[00:08:43] <minibnz> yeah but they do lack one combo ( i havent seen it yet..) DSP with USB in the one chip :)
[00:08:53] <enleth> minibnz: MESA can do 2.5Mbit/s on the sserial
[00:10:05] <minibnz> enleth i dont have me a mesa card yet.. will be getting one soon now i got me a job again..
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[00:11:23] <minibnz> i am running on a dual par port PCI card. its doing well but now i am thinking encoders i really should step it up to a MESA
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[00:12:05] <andypugh> Or Pico, or General Mecatronics (in an atrempt at fairness)
[00:12:19] <minibnz> i was going to hook my tool changer up to the spare pins on the second port but i have instead decided that that would be ok on the end of a usb cable..
[00:13:10] <minibnz> it dont need high speed low latency... should only have a few things to do. select a tool and report back if there is a tool in the holder..
[00:13:34] <_methods> PetefromTn_: https://www.dropbox.com/s/50r5v5adl8z2cp8/2016-02-26%2018.27.06.jpg?dl=0
[00:13:55] <enleth> minibnz: I'm just starting out with a 6i25 and I'm absolutely delighted
[00:13:58] <andypugh> With a command/acknowledge protocol you can work around latency.
[00:14:28] <minibnz> andypugh yes but that cost speed..
[00:14:33] <_methods> my 2nd actual functional welded thing lol
[00:14:37] <andypugh> _methods: Ti ?
[00:14:45] <_methods> nah ss304
[00:15:06] <_methods> it's just got shield plastic on it
[00:15:09] <enleth> _methods: doesn't look like shit
[00:15:13] <minibnz> _methods that is a nice bead you have going there.. speccially for a corner :)
[00:15:24] <_methods> thx i have no idea what i'm doing
[00:15:27] <enleth> _methods: that's more than I could do for sure
[00:15:34] <minibnz> you are doind well...
[00:15:42] <_methods> yeah the parts stick together
[00:15:45] <_methods> so that's a plus lol
[00:15:52] <enleth> I'm not even certain that the contents of the tank I got when I bought argon are actually argon
[00:16:51] <minibnz> same here.. i play with my mates tig from time to time.. he gives me pointers all the time i am getting better i just have a problem switching from soldering (decades of practise and memory bult up) to tig welding its very similar but very different
[00:16:57] <enleth> not sure how to check, so I don't know if my attempts at welding are shit because I suck at welding or it's the "argon"
[00:17:11] <PetefromTn_> _methods looking good man
[00:17:13] <_methods> i think at one point it was brushed stainless but it's been sitting in a material rack buried for a long time
[00:17:24] <_methods> someone left the sheet out in the sun
[00:17:29] <minibnz> nothing a bit of sanding dont fix
[00:17:30] <_methods> so that plastic is a nightmare to get off
[00:17:41] <minibnz> oh wd40 i hear is good for that..
[00:17:44] <_methods> no one wanted to use it for a real job lol
[00:17:47] <_methods> hmmm
[00:17:52] <_methods> i'll have to try some wd then
[00:18:11] <minibnz> lift the corner and squirt it in and let it soak and move on squirt a little more..
[00:18:11] <_methods> they didn't want to get stuck pickin that plastic off piece by piece
[00:18:17] <_methods> i'll try that
[00:18:30] <andypugh> Isn’t there a label on the Argon? The nly other thing it might be is Argon/C)2 MIG welding mix.
[00:18:33] <_methods> it's just going to hold my argon tank so i really don't care too much
[00:18:44] <minibnz> the other way i hear is to boil it off.. if you have a vessel big enought to boil it in
[00:18:48] <_methods> it doesn't need to be purdy
[00:19:00] <PetefromTn_> stainless is fun to weld
[00:19:12] <_methods> yeah this thing welds aluminum great too
[00:19:22] <_methods> except for the me part of the equation
[00:19:27] <enleth> funny thing is, I have an industrial quality coffee machine to repair, one of the boilers is cracked, and I need to weld together a new one out of 304 or something better - but so far my attempts at welding scrap yielded just burned scrap
[00:19:31] <PetefromTn_> yeah mine is decent with it too
[00:19:35] <andypugh> I have started to like using rivets. They look so Victorian.
[00:19:38] <minibnz> oh alu is so hard to tig.. its fine line between hot enough and too hot :)
[00:19:41] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: how well does welder handle SS down to 20 or 22ga?
[00:19:45] <_methods> if someone else was doing the welding i bet it would look beautiful lol
[00:19:59] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight as well as I am able ;)
[00:20:18] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: so it's more you than the machine :)
[00:20:23] <enleth> andypugh: Al-Fe or the actual XIX century hammered rivets?
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[00:20:47] <PetefromTn_> Oh the machine can weld almost anything really
[00:20:57] <enleth> minibnz: watching weldingtipsandtricks?
[00:21:12] <PetefromTn_> Its more about choice of consumables, my skills, and proper adjustment
[00:21:16] <_methods> yeah i need to put it on it's own breaker panel and get it a 100amp breaker so i can use it for real
[00:21:18] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure how well that Lincoln 355 will do in aluminum cans
[00:21:23] <_methods> i need to make a water cooler next
[00:21:29] <PetefromTn_> 100 amp?
[00:21:33] <_methods> yeah
[00:21:38] <_methods> i'm on a 50a now
[00:21:39] <PetefromTn_> what the hell for?
[00:21:41] <minibnz> my mate has a playlist for me of all the vides he watches so i am working my way thru that.. there are so many vides out there its great
[00:21:43] <_methods> aluminum
[00:21:54] <PetefromTn_> I am on a 60 amp and never had a problem
[00:21:55] <andypugh> enleth: I made a rivet-squeezer
[00:22:13] <_methods> i was having issues poppin the breaker welding 3/16" alum
[00:22:21] <PetefromTn_> really? wow
[00:22:26] <_methods> running it at the 225amp setting
[00:22:35] <minibnz> my mates tig must have the cooler turned on.. if you dont the handle breaks and falls apart..
[00:22:38] <PetefromTn_> I have never popped the breaker unless I was REALLY stomping the pedal
[00:22:46] <_methods> oh i had the hammer down
[00:22:47] <enleth> andypugh: any photos of the results?
[00:23:10] <minibnz> we wired it up so it wont run with out the cooler on.. added a cool down timer (old turbo timer actually )
[00:23:32] <_methods> PetefromTn_: have you welded 1/4" and up aluminum with yours?
[00:23:47] <CaptHindsight> whats the voltage at for that setting? ~30V
[00:24:13] <andypugh> enleth: Well, I loaned the squeezer to a friend and he made: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?47662-1914-Dennis-Lorry&p=462004#post462004
[00:24:35] <minibnz> i think it would be fun to build a wleder :)
[00:25:00] <_methods> i can barely use mine
[00:25:06] <_methods> i can't think about building one lol
[00:25:09] <minibnz> low volts high current.. oh and the prestart arc of course...
[00:25:38] <CaptHindsight> minibnz: get a Dynasty for that or a Lotus
[00:25:39] <_methods> i'm thinking about going to the local college and taking some welding classes now
[00:25:52] <enleth> _methods: I was thinking the same thing
[00:25:55] <CaptHindsight> minibnz: use their IGBT's and case
[00:26:03] <minibnz> with switchmode powersupplies becoming so cheap its really tempting to tempt out the magic smoke..
[00:26:12] <andypugh> enleth: This is the squeezer, made from a modified cable crimper: http://bodgesoc.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/hydraulicrivetsqueezer.html
[00:27:24] <enleth> andypugh: nice, looks like authentic vintage rivets
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[00:27:56] <andypugh> They had bigger ones back in the day: http://resources21.kb.nl/gvn/HCO01/HCO01_FDSTORK-04387_W.jpg
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[00:29:01] <enleth> aiming that thing hanging off the gantry crane must have been difficult
[00:29:11] <CaptHindsight> soviet era micrometer
[00:29:50] <andypugh> Some were set in the floor and boilers lowered over them: http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Asquith1/media/Rivet01.jpg.html
[00:30:15] <CaptHindsight> I bet some are still in service for odd jobs
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[00:31:16] <andypugh> enleth: I will be using it tomorrow, we need to make and fit a new mudguard flange for our (nearly exactly) 100 year old firee engine.
[00:33:54] <andypugh> It seems you can buy hydraulic riveters brand-new still: http://grantriveters.com/prod04.htm
[00:41:58] <Sync> heh neat
[00:47:48] <PetefromTn_> _methods yeah I have... any larger and I gotta preheat it a bit but it works..
[00:49:25] <andypugh> Nice work. Though a CNC would help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Y146v8HxE
[00:51:59] <XXCoder> guy definitely dont want grease on pins. guys using pins
[00:52:08] <XXCoder> *tweezer for pins
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[00:55:06] <malcom2073> I love clockspring
[00:55:13] <minibnz> oh what a shame i cant find the datasheet for those EC25-20bit encoders :(
[00:56:39] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay/VS-GA400TD60S/?qs=9h5moqLwYqStTxU6I0uGCg%3d%3d
[00:56:49] <andypugh> malcom2073: I wonder how folk like him would feel about me using CNC to do that sort of work? I reckon as I build the CNC machines and have written a fair proportion of the controllet software, I am allowed :-)
[00:56:50] <CaptHindsight> ^^ going to build a TIG
[00:57:10] <Sync> ask the seller minibnz?
[00:57:27] <_methods> PetefromTn_: i might get a bottle of they helium mix for heavy stuff or something
[00:57:30] <Sync> don't need no huge ass igbt modules
[00:57:34] <malcom2073> andypugh: Yeah, he doesn't come across as the luddite type, but many crafts people *hate* automated operations
[00:57:45] <CaptHindsight> hmm 1 khz switching
[00:58:19] <XXCoder> malcom2073: me too
[00:59:09] <malcom2073> I can see it from the craftsman point of view, but really *he* should get a cnc machine, and then apply his craft to things the machine can't reproduce
[00:59:14] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/IXYS/IXGK400N30A3/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv4z0HnGdrLji290Jq8RNevEZeWVfXlQ70%3d 400 Amps 300V
[00:59:20] <minibnz> sync i think that will be the only way.. even then i will probably have to get a mate to translate it for me :)
[00:59:34] <malcom2073> Wolf_: ping
[00:59:41] <Wolf_> yo
[00:59:56] <malcom2073> Wolf_: https://sites.google.com/site/technoswapfest2/
[00:59:59] <CaptHindsight> a hah 10kHz Switching
[00:59:59] <malcom2073> tomorrow, in lithincum
[01:00:17] <andypugh> malcom2073: The way I see it, I am just making my own tools. They just happen to be semi-autonomous tools.
[01:00:22] <malcom2073> I'll have a table selling random junk heh
[01:00:31] <malcom2073> andypugh: +1. I feel like most of what I do, is making more tools to make moer tools :P
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[01:01:00] <_methods> that's the whole point of getting your own machines lol
[01:01:03] <_methods> make yourself more tools
[01:01:21] <_methods> nobody will let you make your own tools on their time
[01:01:23] <Wolf_> oh shit, I might have to swing out there then
[01:01:29] <malcom2073> _methods: I've yet to figure out what to make once I'm done making tools... but I've years before I catch up with that
[01:01:31] <malcom2073> Wolf_: I'll be there
[01:01:48] <_methods> i don't think making tools ever ends
[01:02:06] <XXCoder> it never will.
[01:02:10] <XXCoder> you need tools
[01:02:12] <_methods> unless your one of those artists
[01:02:16] <andypugh> Well, I started with a plan to make a clock. several years on, I am no nearer starting the clock, but I have a lot more tools.
[01:02:18] <_methods> everything you make is a tool basically lol
[01:02:20] <XXCoder> therefore there will be tool maker.
[01:02:39] <Sync> CaptHindsight: careful. look at the maximum lead current
[01:02:58] <CaptHindsight> Sync: poor package
[01:03:22] <CaptHindsight> needs the 1/4" copper lugs
[01:03:40] <Sync> the package is not poor
[01:03:43] <Sync> it is one of the best
[01:03:55] <CaptHindsight> hasta banana
[01:05:16] <_methods> it's so nice having a tig welder finally
[01:05:23] <_methods> really sucked being limited to mig
[01:05:23] <minibnz> you might as well go for water cooling.. you need a water chiller for the wand...
[01:05:33] <_methods> yeah i gotta make a chiller now
[01:05:52] <CaptHindsight> garden hose, 5 gallon bucket and aquarium pump
[01:05:57] <Sync> never really needed a chiller
[01:06:08] <minibnz> does the chiller need to be powered cooling like a compressor or thermoelectric cooler? or is passive radiator enough?
[01:07:05] <_methods> man i was welding some aluminum the other day and my torch got extremely hot
[01:07:12] <minibnz> i havea passive cooler setup for my laser but i fear it will not be enough.. i suppose i could just use a larger reserve tank..
[01:07:22] <_methods> i could only weld for maybe 3-4 inches before i had to take a break
[01:07:27] <minibnz> alu takes a lot more curent than steel
[01:07:40] <_methods> and i was wearing my mig gloves lol
[01:07:59] <Sync> for sure, I just almost never weld thick enough alu to need it
[01:08:39] <minibnz> if you only do little beads or light material then no cooler is possible.
[01:08:50] <Computer_barf> hasta banana?
[01:08:58] <Computer_barf> what is that, racist minion?
[01:09:07] <Computer_barf> racist minionese
[01:09:18] <minibnz> heheheh
[01:09:31] <_methods> yeah i was welding that stainless tonight and never got hot at all
[01:09:39] <_methods> but aluminum
[01:09:54] <Wolf_> thermal conductivity…
[01:10:02] <Computer_barf> a ponyo ba porch nabo
[01:10:09] <minibnz> does it have something to do with the current flow direction? ie AC vs DC?
[01:10:14] <Cromaglious_> weeee
[01:10:18] <_methods> i have no idea
[01:10:24] <_methods> i don't know a damn thing about welding
[01:10:36] <_methods> except that welders make a mess in the bathroom
[01:10:41] <minibnz> i tihnk alu needs AC to weld..
[01:11:20] <minibnz> i think its to do with getting it hotter so it might be related i just dont kow the exactl links involved..
[01:11:34] <Sync> well, there will be a bit more heat in the torch due to the heat
[01:11:40] <Sync> but I think most of it is due to the current
[01:12:03] <Sync> well, you rupture the oxide layer with the flow of the electrons
[01:12:07] <Cromaglious_> AL needs a high frequency component to the arc to blast off the oxidation.
[01:12:08] <minibnz> ok i might look into it more
[01:12:12] <CaptHindsight> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
[01:12:20] <CaptHindsight> really gone now
[01:12:28] <Sync> Cromaglious_: no
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[01:12:46] <Sync> you reverse the electron flow to rip through the oxide
[01:13:01] <minibnz> the high freqency arc is there to start the main welding arc easier it creates a plasma that the main arc can flow thru
[01:13:06] <Sync> you could weld Al with just reverse polarity
[01:13:21] <Sync> or rather straight
[01:13:25] <Sync> never get those right
[01:13:38] <Cromaglious_> gotcha...
[01:13:55] <Cromaglious_> I'm from the days of Heliarc machines
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[01:14:17] <_methods> yeah mine is an ltec 306 heliarc
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[01:14:42] <minibnz> oh didnt realise there was another method in use :) me is learning :)
[01:14:53] <Sync> it works the same with the old buzzboxes Cromaglious_
[01:15:02] <Sync> just that the waveform is sinusoidal
[01:15:05] <Cromaglious_> wish monday would get here sooner... I want to spend some money.
[01:15:18] <Sync> so you have to help arc reestablish with the hf
[01:15:25] <Wolf_> I have some new fangled magic box with lots of buttons for tig work
[01:15:30] <Sync> because it crosses zero quite slowly
[01:15:51] <minibnz> i dont want monday to get here sooner.. i gotta go to work.. first day of work in 8 weeks.. going to be hard to get up before lunch :P
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[01:17:36] <minibnz> ok i gotta go draw up/map the mill head so i can make some parts on my mates bigger mill.. making the ATC spring compressor.. 3 moving parts to pinch a spring without pushing on the spindle.. 10mm steel is a bit much to ask from the X2
[01:17:53] <minibnz> his mill will eat this up for a snack :)
[01:18:21] <minibnz> its not CNC but i only need to cut a few slots and a big hole.. so it should be ok with hand measuring tools :)
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[01:53:46] <Cromaglious_> fusion 360 is really starting to piss me off.... the 11000 triangle limitation is crap
[01:55:17] <andypugh> I am wondering why there is a triangle limit? The parts are not made of triangles.
[01:55:58] <andypugh> (or is this STL import?)
[01:56:13] <Cromaglious_> stl import
[01:56:48] <Cromaglious_> just figured out the meshmixer to reduce the triangles to 10500
[01:56:56] <andypugh> Ah, well. Don’t. STL is an output format, not an input.
[01:57:54] <andypugh> (I could try to sound more pompous, but it would be a struggle)
[01:58:25] <Cromaglious_> taking a snub scroll which was a stl file and putting it into fusion 360 to generate the CAM to cut it on my 3040 engraver
[01:58:27] <malcom2073> Yeah you should be importing as something like an igeg/step
[01:59:01] <Cromaglious_> not available in that format
[02:01:05] <Cromaglious_> it's a 3d scan
[02:01:25] <PetefromTn_> Well all the doors and drawer fronts are glazed now...
[02:01:25] <andypugh> Ah, that’s awkward then.
[02:01:41] <PetefromTn_> just gotta let them dry a bit and I can load the gun with the clearcoat
[02:01:56] <Cromaglious_> fsck'd either way I go
[02:02:03] <andypugh> Probably not an easy thing to re-model from simple measuerments?
[02:02:59] <Cromaglious_> very not easy. I spent 2 weeks trying to model something.. I gave up and found a 3d scan of something I could use
[02:03:20] <malcom2073> Cromaglious_: Import it into blender, reduce the number of triangles, then re-export? That's what my dad does with his 3d scans
[02:03:45] <Cromaglious_> used meshmixer from autodesk
[02:05:35] <Cromaglious_> this is the model I used http://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/du_37_114x72x14mm
[02:06:12] <andypugh> Yeah, you don’t want to re-model that
[02:07:01] <_methods> nope lol
[02:07:41] <_methods> that would be much easier to recreate in something like blender or rhino
[02:07:46] <XXCoder> fancy
[02:07:51] <XXCoder> or that artistic cad
[02:17:05] <PetefromTn_> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/for/5466255148.html
[02:20:45] <XXCoder> your machine?
[02:22:20] <Sync> wtf is that shit
[02:22:27] <PetefromTn_> no
[02:22:37] <PetefromTn_> just a machine someone posted
[02:22:44] <PetefromTn_> thought it was interesting
[02:22:48] <Sync> yeah
[02:23:08] <PetefromTn_> I BELIEVE it is a CNC jewelry wax mill
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[02:35:37] <minibnz> got a question is a ballscrew on the Z axis any better than a rack and pinion? is it work the cost to upgrade?
[02:35:44] <minibnz> worth^
[02:35:58] <Cromaglious_> https://asheville.craigslist.org/tls/5464007342.html I'd be more interested in this one
[02:36:14] <minibnz> i have a X2 seig.. already fitted the air spring to stop the head drop
[02:36:33] <andypugh> minibnz: Depends on the machine. And the cost, and what you are making.
[02:37:14] <XXCoder> I just found out my work has a bridgeport
[02:37:23] <XXCoder> its rarely used at all. its by manual lathe
[02:37:30] <Cromaglious_> XXCoder: where did they bury it?
[02:37:38] <XXCoder> the far wall lol
[02:37:47] <minibnz> i dont really see my self doing any conturing type work if i did i would be very simple raster stuff.
[02:37:47] <andypugh> minibnz: But I can’t imagine a rack and pinion being adequate for _any_ Z
[02:37:49] <XXCoder> I can see that it is rarely used
[02:37:52] <Cromaglious_> you gonna CNC it?
[02:38:05] <XXCoder> nah it is manual for a reason
[02:38:13] <XXCoder> there is LOTS mills cnc there
[02:40:06] <minibnz> my X2 is already cnc'd. i find the Z does have a lot of backlash in it.. maybe it is worth it.. just means i wont be able to use the Z axis by hand. so far i still have all the factory use of my mill, like to be able to use it by handles for a quick job.
[02:40:36] <minibnz> unless i can find a way to keep the rack there for when i want to hand crank it.. hmmm
[02:40:57] <Cromaglious_> I think my wife has come to the conclusion I will be getting a mill at the house and a new lathe. leaning towards a bolton zx45 and a grizzly G4003
[02:41:07] <minibnz> probably have to also upgrade the Z axis motor as well..
[02:41:23] <andypugh> I have always carefully arranged my machines to be usable manually. And I have never used that ability. SO the current one isn’t getting that.
[02:41:35] <minibnz> heheheh
[02:42:00] <minibnz> X and Y are easy to keep the handles the Z is easy until you go ballscrews
[02:42:21] <minibnz> might just order the X & Y screws and think abou the Z axis for a while..
[02:42:41] <minibnz> see if i actually find it is a limitation for my work or not.
[02:43:20] <zeeshan|2> man
[02:43:25] <minibnz> X & Y screws are $160au delivered, already ground.. need to add a few bearings and im done :)
[02:45:29] <minibnz> i might be able to just put the ball scew in parrallel with the rack.. the handle has a disengage on it so it might not pose a problem. and ball screws should be able to be driven by the nut (so to speak)
[02:46:14] <andypugh> I would suggest not expending too much effort on it.
[02:46:39] <zeeshan|2> andypugh: you mean thru a keyboard? :P
[02:47:26] <minibnz> i do like to be able to use it like a drill press.. i am in a flat/appartment so space is at a premium dont want to have to get a drill press to do simple drilling :)
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[02:48:04] <andypugh> For _simple_ driling I use a cordless handheld
[02:48:30] <minibnz> heheheh ahh you sound like you have skills to drill a hole striaght :) i cant for the life of me :)
[02:49:48] <minibnz> hell i have issues with a drill press :p
[02:50:09] <andypugh> Well, yes. I did this by hand. The fact I took pictures is a sign of how surprised I was. https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/CNCUnsorted#5645268349766191922
[02:50:18] <andypugh> https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/CNCUnsorted#5645268365922559106
[02:50:53] <minibnz> dang that looks better than what i do with a lathe :)
[02:52:00] <andypugh> I don’t take photos of embarassing failures :-)
[02:52:07] <minibnz> hehehehh
[02:52:24] <minibnz> i just engineer around my new features :)
[02:55:31] <zeeshan|2> dun look centered
[02:55:32] <zeeshan|2> :P
[02:56:16] <andypugh> zeeshan|2: It’s a bit off, but it was done by eye and by hand
[02:57:27] <minibnz> if i go ballscrew on the Z does this mean if i have the right air strut force my stepper will not need to be all that strong?
[02:57:35] <zeeshan|2> why
[02:57:37] <zeeshan|2> you have a lathe!
[02:57:37] <zeeshan|2> :P
[02:57:47] <andypugh> zeeshan|2: I dind’t then.
[02:57:49] <minibnz> ie the air strut forece = head wieght/ gravity force?
[02:57:55] <zeeshan|2> ah
[02:58:05] <zeeshan|2> andypugh: plz find me a 1145-O stress-strain curve
[02:58:06] <zeeshan|2> thank you :D
[02:58:15] <zeeshan|2> atlas of stress-strain curves does not have it
[02:58:56] <andypugh> minibnz: You might not need the air strut. Balls screws have lots less friction
[02:59:12] <andypugh> zeeshan|2: Just measure one?
[02:59:17] <zeeshan|2> i have
[02:59:22] <zeeshan|2> i need to compare if my results are ok
[02:59:29] <zeeshan|2> looks like a typical stress strain cruve :P
[02:59:30] <zeeshan|2> for al
[02:59:32] <Tom_itx> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/p07/PAPERS/MOPAS051.PDF
[02:59:37] <Tom_itx> zeebus
[02:59:50] <minibnz> well i was thinking with the less friction the stepper would have to hold the head up. if the strut is correct it should only have to push down a little to overcome the strut, then the rest is cutting force
[02:59:57] <andypugh> An experimental result is never wrong. But it might not be the experiment you thought you were doing.
[03:00:52] <Sync> The author was not able to obtain a true stress-strain curve for 1145-O
[03:00:53] <Sync> aluminum alloy; 1100-O aluminum was used instead.
[03:00:53] <Sync> :D
[03:01:02] <Sync> sounds like you have some work cut out zeeshan|2
[03:01:33] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/FGEeutB.png
[03:01:37] <Tom_itx> https://hal.inria.fr/file/index/docid/253378/filename/ajp-jp4199404C823.pdf
[03:01:41] <zeeshan|2> sync where are you reading that
[03:01:50] <zeeshan|2> hi tom
[03:02:03] <Tom_itx> zeeshan-lab i gave you 2 links
[03:02:25] <Sync> in the index below the picture
[03:02:25] <zeeshan|2> wtf howd you find it so quick
[03:02:30] <Sync> google
[03:02:32] <Tom_itx> i got connections
[03:02:43] <minibnz> andy i think i might do a test.. i will order the X & Y screws and try mounting the X one on Z (pretty similar lengths) and see what exactly will happen.. thanks for the tips.
[03:02:50] <zeeshan|2> that ain stress-strain
[03:02:50] <zeeshan|2> ;[
[03:03:12] <zeeshan|2> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749641903001785
[03:03:13] <zeeshan|2> :D
[03:03:35] <minibnz> the googlefoo is strong with this one...
[03:04:34] <Tom_itx> that first one looked similar to your test setup
[03:04:58] <Tom_itx> only you had a grant and spent more money on yours
[03:05:05] <andypugh> I have quite a heavy knee on my mlll and no counterweight/strut and it works fine, though I am using 750W servos not steppers. (torque is, however, comparable)
[03:05:32] * zeeshan|2 loves university access to journals
[03:05:44] <Tom_itx> zeeshan-lab wtf is all this for?
[03:06:35] <andypugh> For SCIENCE!
[03:07:00] <zeeshan|2> for love
[03:07:05] <zeeshan|2> im trying to confirm my apparatus is right
[03:07:13] <Tom_itx> http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSue9rRXc4VUlkpf6Pt9xa8uh-IJ3xvv2QNOt0FH1-GQVi52nVb
[03:07:14] <zeeshan|2> i keep getting random results with the shape memory polymer
[03:07:19] <zeeshan|2> i do a test one day , its not the same as another day
[03:07:31] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/Hg6fFHd.png
[03:07:34] <zeeshan|2> this is right from the paper
[03:07:52] <zeeshan|2> im around 97MPa at failure
[03:08:06] <andypugh> https://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=GEN-GGGLORI-PATCH&Category_Code=GEN
[03:08:10] <zeeshan|2> their seems like 92.5 MPa
[03:09:16] <zeeshan|2> oh duh
[03:09:19] <zeeshan|2> thats at .15 strain
[03:09:28] <Tom_itx> https://books.google.com/books?id=IzfeAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA512&lpg=PA512&dq=1145-O+stress-strain+curve&source=bl&ots=OOSl7dY8Xc&sig=IKz1_6M_eZD7bc0Bv-eH_dEoRa4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC443M-ZbLAhVT2GMKHd_nBYoQ6AEILzAE#v=onepage&q=1145-O%20stress-strain%20curve&f=false
[03:09:29] <minibnz> can anyone tell me what size bolts i would need to hold 600kg of sheer force.. i have two 10mm plates sliding then the bolt will be the stop that holds the 600kg of force.. or point me to a link that explains this.
[03:09:45] <Tom_itx> zeeshan-lab you should own that one
[03:10:34] <zeeshan|2> minibnz: you could just use a formula :P
[03:10:36] <zeeshan|2> blindly
[03:11:18] <zeeshan|2> f = shear strength * cross sectional area
[03:11:41] <minibnz> heheh i have found the specs for the bolts but they are all in MPA. so i gotta work out the right conversion :)
[03:11:50] <zeeshan|2> depends on the grade
[03:11:57] <Tom_itx> mpa to what?
[03:11:58] <zeeshan|2> and be careful
[03:12:05] <zeeshan|2> those values are not the values you use in this formula
[03:12:09] <Tom_itx> i bet catia could convert it
[03:12:11] <minibnz> i can get a hold of ATSM 8.8's pretty easy.
[03:12:12] <zeeshan|2> you will have gross failure :P
[03:12:19] <zeeshan|2> 0.0068 is the conversion
[03:12:19] <zeeshan|2> :P
[03:12:20] <Tom_itx> it has a bazillion conversions in it
[03:12:42] <zeeshan|2> minibnz: ill give you a quick example
[03:12:45] <minibnz> thats my worry 1kg bits of metal itching to fly off
[03:12:58] <zeeshan|2> 1/4" shank bolt, assuming the shear is located at the shank of the bolt, not the thread
[03:13:16] <zeeshan|2> and you're using grade 5 bolt which has a proof strength of like 70ksi
[03:13:23] <minibnz> gotta ya so far thats what i am planning
[03:13:27] <Tom_itx> probably would usually shear at the first thread you think???
[03:13:41] <Tom_itx> unless it's a shear bolt
[03:14:09] <zeeshan|2> f = (1/sqrt(3)) * 70000 * (pi/4)*.25^2
[03:14:22] <zeeshan|2> you need to multiply by 1/sqrt(3) cause that'll give you the shear strength
[03:14:26] <minibnz> and the units are in inches?
[03:14:27] <zeeshan|2> from uniaxial strength
[03:14:30] <zeeshan|2> yes
[03:14:34] * Tom_itx beats his head on that and still comes up empty
[03:14:50] <minibnz> ok sweet that might do. i will use that value as a starting size :)
[03:15:07] <zeeshan|2> this also has no factor of safety in it
[03:15:38] <zeeshan|2> tom what are you on about!
[03:15:39] <zeeshan|2> :P
[03:15:46] <Tom_itx> who knows
[03:15:52] <Tom_itx> just audience participation
[03:15:57] <minibnz> yeah so i will add as much over head as i can :) i am not even certain it will have 600kg of push. was a guess. acutator x lever ratio estimate.
[03:16:14] <zeeshan|2> when in doubt
[03:16:17] <zeeshan|2> multiply by 4
[03:16:18] <zeeshan|2> :)
[03:16:34] <Tom_itx> 0 X 4 =
[03:18:26] <zeeshan|2> hahaha
[03:18:39] <minibnz> Tom_itx i get what you are saying.. i am not sure i will be able to counterbore the hole so the shank takes the whole strain it will probably be on the thread.. :( so it will be even less than what this formula will suggest. so bigger bolts.. only need a guide as i might need to change the design to get more strength
[03:18:49] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 When you get a minute, can you help me with some torque calcs again?
[03:18:58] <zeeshan|2> thats okay minibnz
[03:19:02] <zeeshan|2> on the thread doesnt make a huge diff
[03:19:18] <zeeshan|2> off the top of my head, it was like 100lb diff
[03:19:30] <zeeshan|2> need to calc again for a 1/4-20
[03:19:35] <zeeshan|2> ya os
[03:20:53] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 So I'm going to do something temporary on this mill until I can make new brackets to gear down the servos. I was thinking about these. https://www.teknic.com/model-info/CPM-SDSK-2321S-RLN/ . I think that should be plenty of torque to rapid/cut. What do you think with 5 TPI ballscrews?
[03:21:01] <minibnz> yeah thought it would be a case of using the lower diameter of the thread to make the formula correct :)
[03:21:21] <zeeshan|2> it is mini
[03:21:30] <PetefromTn_> Okee dokee just shot the clear coat on the backs of all the doors and drawer fronts :D
[03:21:50] <zeeshan|2> os1r1s: we did these calcs didnt we
[03:21:53] <zeeshan|2> for 280 oz-in
[03:21:57] <zeeshan|2> for a 5 tpi ball screw
[03:22:13] <zeeshan|2> we got a number that wa slike double what you needed for what you were doing
[03:22:45] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: almost moving time :D
[03:22:58] <os1r1s> We did them for a 350 oz/in (peak), 50 oz/in (constant) DC servo
[03:23:05] <PetefromTn_> getting there.
[03:23:10] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 ^
[03:23:14] <PetefromTn_> gonna be busting ass all weekend on the house
[03:23:23] <PetefromTn_> then appraisal on tuesday
[03:23:37] <zeeshan|2> these look better :P
[03:23:38] <PetefromTn_> will hopefully be moving the machines out sometime next week
[03:23:48] <zeeshan|2> oh i just saw it now
[03:23:55] <zeeshan|2> i was seeing peak torque
[03:24:11] <zeeshan|2> nice
[03:24:15] <zeeshan|2> youre moving them to a temp storage?
[03:24:21] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[03:24:28] <PetefromTn_> cross your fingers for us guys
[03:24:31] <zeeshan|2> is TN?
[03:24:33] <zeeshan|2> *in
[03:24:38] <zeeshan|2> or Fl
[03:24:39] <PetefromTn_> we put in a bid on a nice house in Florida today
[03:24:46] <zeeshan|2> nice
[03:24:54] <zeeshan|2> os1r1s: im lazy =[
[03:25:00] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 hehe
[03:25:10] <zeeshan|2> but i think it'd be around half the feed force
[03:25:10] <Cromaglious_> PetefromTn_: away from sink areas?
[03:25:15] <Cromaglious_> PetefromTn_: away from sink hole areas?
[03:25:16] <PetefromTn_> no we will be taking them to Port St. Lucie Florida and putting them in a storage unit there..
[03:25:57] <PetefromTn_> I found a good price on one that apparently has a unit that has good access room for the trailer
[03:26:31] <PetefromTn_> they also said that they are a moving and storage company and have several forklifts on site that I could possibly rent cheap if necessary to help load into the unit.
[03:26:52] <Cromaglious_> if your in Pensacola you'll be near Abom79
[03:27:01] <PetefromTn_> oh yeah
[03:27:09] <PetefromTn_> I think pensacola is on west side tho
[03:27:33] <PetefromTn_> yeah panhandle
[03:27:50] <PetefromTn_> we are going to be central east coast near the beach..
[03:28:30] <Cromaglious_> smack dab in sink hole country
[03:28:57] <PetefromTn_> huh never heard of a sink hole near there
[03:29:05] <PetefromTn_> I know they have some on the west coast
[03:29:35] <Cromaglious_> anywhere there is limestone under you, you have a chance of sink hole
[03:29:57] <PetefromTn_> http://www.securefsi.com/images/sinkholefaq/sinkholetype-near-map.jpg
[03:30:15] <andypugh> Sink holes are one of my favourite things.
[03:31:38] <Cromaglious_> http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2011/03/30/192278.htm
[03:31:53] <PetefromTn_> funny every time I tell people I am moving to florida all they can talk about is natural disasters ;)
[03:32:30] <Cromaglious_> hurricanes are fun. you can build to withstand them...
[03:32:42] <Cromaglious_> , sink holes are a crap shoot.
[03:32:44] <PetefromTn_> been thru quite a few
[03:32:44] <andypugh> Which is odd, given (for example) the complete absence of an San Andreas Fault in Floria.
[03:33:04] <PetefromTn_> I grew up in Florida
[03:33:10] <Tom_itx> it's a swamp
[03:33:31] <PetefromTn_> I guess if you say so
[03:33:38] <Cromaglious_> anything less than a good solid 5 on the richter scale is nothing... love a little 3... house has a nice sway
[03:33:41] <Tom_itx> compared to here, yes
[03:34:20] <Tom_itx> andypugh they get hurricanes instead
[03:34:23] <PetefromTn_> Don't you live in Tornado alley? ;)
[03:34:27] * Cromaglious_ grew up in Earthquake and typhoon areas
[03:34:35] <Tom_itx> yeah but you can see them coming
[03:34:41] <PetefromTn_> yeah right
[03:34:50] <Tom_itx> been getting alot more earthquakes lately
[03:34:50] <andypugh> UK weather is fairly dismal, but never dangerous.
[03:34:58] <Tom_itx> boreing
[03:35:09] <PetefromTn_> it gets damn cold in UK no?
[03:35:18] <Cromaglious_> well UK and florida share the gulf stream
[03:35:43] <andypugh> No, never properly cold in the UK.
[03:35:59] <PetefromTn_> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/5466305430.html NIce gun
[03:36:04] <Cromaglious_> PetefromTn_: fairly cold... gulf stream warms it up a bit... So they get all those fogs
[03:36:09] <PetefromTn_> define properly
[03:36:14] <andypugh> I think we have had two frosts this year
[03:36:39] <PetefromTn_> my brother went to UK for a couple months with some family friends and I recall him saying it was cold and rainy the whole time LOL
[03:37:48] <Cromaglious_> as Sam Clemmons stated... The coldest winter I spent was a summer in San Francisco
[03:38:11] <PetefromTn_> been there many times....it DOES get damp and cold
[03:38:11] <andypugh> Cold as in “around freezing” no cold as in “-40” like Finland and parts of the US
[03:38:45] <PetefromTn_> the only thing good about UK is Top Gear....Oh wait! :D
[03:39:30] <andypugh> That’s a little unfair. We have some pretty reasonable cheese too.
[03:39:50] <PetefromTn_> yup pretty cheesy :D
[03:42:18] <PetefromTn_> gotta wait an hour and a half before I can flip these babies and shoot the other side
[03:42:33] <PetefromTn_> gonna be a late night boys!!
[03:43:45] <Tom_itx> slow cookin steaks??
[03:43:47] <Tom_itx> :)
[03:44:00] <CaptHindsight> native UK beer and ale if far superior
[03:44:08] <CaptHindsight> if/is
[03:44:39] <andypugh> Time to sleep.
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[03:45:40] <PetefromTn_> no spraying clear coat on cabinet doors and drawer fronts
[03:45:41] <CaptHindsight> just returned from the worst German food I've ever had except for the beer and sausage
[03:46:06] <PetefromTn_> was not aware there was any German food OTHER than beer and sausage ;)
[03:46:25] <Jymmm> There's german food BESIDES beer and sausage?
[03:46:51] <[cube]> I was just in munich
[03:46:58] <PetefromTn_> I know brats right hehehe
[03:46:59] <CaptHindsight> schnitzel, rouladen
[03:47:00] <[cube]> couldnt eat german food for more than 3 days straight
[03:47:05] <[cube]> too heavy
[03:47:15] <CaptHindsight> yeah, not light
[03:47:27] <[cube]> goulash was great
[03:47:50] <[cube]> if i never saw another pretzel again i'd be OK with that :P
[03:48:39] <PetefromTn_> WTH is schnitzel anyways some kinda mystery meat?
[03:48:55] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Hint: (woof woof)
[03:49:02] <[cube]> haha
[03:49:03] <CaptHindsight> nah it's just pounded tender and flat, breaded and fried
[03:49:06] <PetefromTn_> ROFL
[03:49:37] <PetefromTn_> I almost sprayed soda out my nostrils on that one man
[03:49:50] <CaptHindsight> I'll ask our German friends here in a few hours
[03:50:24] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20081209-hot-dog.jpg
[03:50:58] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: and https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EWcW3q_X9cM/hqdefault.jpg
[03:51:26] <PetefromTn_> WOAH
[03:51:41] <Jymmm> schnitzel == chicken fried woof woof
[03:51:43] <PetefromTn_> apparently Weinerschnitzel is fried veal patties
[03:52:04] <PetefromTn_> and German Schnitzel is fried pork patties
[03:52:13] <PetefromTn_> NO FIDO
[03:52:31] <Jymmm> on stilts even... http://cdn3-www.dogtime.com/assets/uploads/gallery/wiener-dog-halloween-costumes/9-wiener-dog-stilts.jpg
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[03:53:12] <Jymmm> Easter schnitzel == https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NaVRluwSg34/hqdefault.jpg
[03:53:35] <PetefromTn_> my daughter has a little weiner dog toy that is a tool to slice hot dogs into little edible chunks... to me it seems kinda sick LOL
[03:53:39] <CaptHindsight> easter schnauzer
[03:53:57] <CaptHindsight> bratdog
[03:54:05] <PetefromTn_> thats some puppy abuse right there man
[03:54:31] <Jymmm> oompa-loompa schnitzel == http://cdn3-www.dogtime.com/assets/uploads/gallery/wiener-dog-halloween-costumes/4-wiener-dog-oompa-loompa.jpg
[03:54:57] <PetefromTn_> classic
[03:55:30] <CaptHindsight> it's becoming one big suburb
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[03:56:26] <[cube]> heres ur schnitzel
[03:56:27] <[cube]> http://i.imgur.com/zglVUTQ.jpg
[03:56:44] <[cube]> that cranberry sauce was so good
[03:57:00] <Jymmm> fresh schnitzel == http://kwtv.images.worldnow.com/images/22858118_SA.jpg
[03:57:11] <[cube]> lol
[03:57:56] <PetefromTn_> I dunno man it looks kinda plain..like fried chicken cutlets and some mashed potatoes
[03:58:11] <CaptHindsight> bingo
[03:58:17] <[cube]> it is very plain
[03:58:20] <PetefromTn_> at least in italy you get chicken parm with sauce and pasta
[03:58:20] <[cube]> unremarkable
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[03:58:51] <Jymmm> got hotsauce?
[03:58:59] <Jymmm> in de?
[03:59:08] <PetefromTn_> I mean I am sure it is good but I have seen pictures of food that looks a lot more appetizing
[03:59:11] <CaptHindsight> nine
[03:59:23] <Jymmm> really? that sucks
[03:59:47] <CaptHindsight> it's more rich than spicy in de
[04:00:10] <CaptHindsight> butter, cream, fried
[04:00:20] <Jymmm> Ah, the south!
[04:00:58] <CaptHindsight> even the mustards are more rich than hot
[04:01:45] <PetefromTn_> http://s3.amazonaws.com/foodspotting-ec2/reviews/3955418/thumb_600.jpg?1377058229 Now here is some good eats!
[04:01:56] <CaptHindsight> [cube]: did you see any McShnitzels while you were there?
[04:11:58] <[cube]> uhhh
[04:12:01] <[cube]> i didnt
[04:22:50] <PetefromTn_> well hell looks like tomorrow is gonna be when I spray the fronts I am too tired to stay up Gn8 guys
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[05:46:22] <tiwake> oh man
[05:46:28] <tiwake> ohhhh
[05:46:32] <tiwake> I have a new love
[05:46:59] <tiwake> ZrN coated carbide three flute endmill on aluminum
[05:47:18] <tiwake> cuts so nice
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[06:26:31] <XXCoder> tiwake: shiny cut eh
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[06:29:01] <Jymmm> Heh, I can do that with my tablesaw; it really does leave a perfect finish cut on aluminum, although swarf goes EVERYWHERE - hair, pockets, etc. (guard is removed from saw doens't help any =)
[06:30:09] <XXCoder> open mouth and your body will be supplied with enough alum for next billion years ;) (body does need alum but not much as it only need traces and all food has tiny traces)
[06:31:17] <Jymmm> body can't absorb minerals directly, needs to use a carrier.
[06:31:36] <XXCoder> actually it does for some
[06:31:39] <XXCoder> iodine for one
[06:31:42] <Jymmm> the metals
[06:31:49] <XXCoder> alum dunno though
[06:31:52] <Jymmm> magnesium uses calcuim as the carrier
[06:31:57] <Jymmm> etc
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[06:32:36] <XXCoder> its same for poisonous metals, organic mecury is far more poisonous than inorganic
[06:32:48] <XXCoder> not that latter is very good idea at all either
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[06:41:54] <Jymmm> Or I could just shot ya with hot lead, how's that for a delivery carrier ;)
[06:41:58] <Jymmm> shoot*
[06:43:09] <XXCoder> http://www.lab-initio.com/screen_res/nz063.jpg
[06:43:33] <Jymmm> lol
[06:44:17] <Jymmm> XXCoder: "Good answer! Good Answer! <audience applauses>"
[06:44:29] <XXCoder> there is more geeky version but cant find it
[06:45:54] <Jymmm> That one was pretty good =)
[06:46:35] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:46:47] <XXCoder> other one is similiar but bit differences
[06:47:02] <Jymmm> Damn, I can't keep track of all the crap I've gotten from aliexpress!
[06:47:16] <Jymmm> and I still have more pending on this one order
[06:47:17] <XXCoder> orders list expires?
[06:47:33] <XXCoder> finally http://www.lab-initio.com/250dpi/nz015.jpg
[06:47:51] <Jymmm> I placed one order with items from 12 different vendors
[06:48:31] <XXCoder> nearing zero (or whatever its current name is) is strange webcomic
[06:48:58] <Jymmm> comics not really my thing
[06:49:14] <XXCoder> http://www.lab-initio.com/250dpi/nz276.jpg ;)
[06:49:45] <Jymmm> Yeah, Noooooooo! lol
[06:50:26] <Jymmm> and the REAL juicy stuff hasn't even arrived yet =(
[06:52:15] <XXCoder> thats negative on aliexpress sadly
[06:52:18] <XXCoder> everything takes a while
[06:53:14] <Jymmm> I like this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-MINI-Touch-Switch-USB-mobile-power-camping-lamp-LED-night-light-lamp/2054301546.html
[06:53:44] <XXCoder> interesting
[06:53:51] <XXCoder> great with usb cale clearly
[06:54:03] <Jymmm> I'm using with power pack
[06:54:18] <Jymmm> lights up the whole room
[06:54:47] <XXCoder> how much lumens?
[06:55:16] <Jymmm> Eh, 150 ish I'd guess
[06:55:55] <XXCoder> not bad
[06:55:58] <Jymmm> pretty good as it's more flood than throw
[06:56:01] <XXCoder> immable too
[06:56:08] <Jymmm> will blind ya if you look directly into it
[06:56:41] <Jymmm> I'm testing it on lowest right now, so far running for 22 hours on battery pack
[06:57:25] <XXCoder> nice
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[06:57:39] <Jymmm> "low" is like a bedroom/bathroom night light
[06:58:36] <Jymmm> I wanted them for power outages instead of candles
[06:59:14] <Jymmm> and I already had a few power packs, (only $4 anyway) and rechargab;e
[06:59:44] <XXCoder> it lasts 22 hours on el cheapo 9k mAh packs?
[06:59:49] <XXCoder> lowest setting
[07:00:53] <Jymmm> No, I said I'm testing it out, and SO FAR it's gone 22 hours.... it's still going
[07:01:00] <XXCoder> dang
[07:01:11] <XXCoder> wonder how long my 16k pack would last lol
[07:01:20] <Jymmm> 16K what?
[07:01:28] <XXCoder> mAh
[07:01:34] <Jymmm> WTF?!
[07:01:45] <Jymmm> 16,000 mAH ?
[07:01:52] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:01:57] <XXCoder> there is bigger ones now
[07:01:59] <Jymmm> That is stupid!
[07:02:10] <Jymmm> 16KmAH ?
[07:02:13] <XXCoder> mine is very compact for huge mAh though. could charge my phone 5 times
[07:02:15] <Jymmm> Kilo Milli
[07:02:31] <Jymmm> link?
[07:02:44] <XXCoder> hold on a sec
[07:03:11] <Jymmm> 16,000 mAH is 16AH, not !6K mAh
[07:03:46] <XXCoder> Hm thry must have changed it. could just be misrememvbered it - it says 11,200 mAh
[07:03:59] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BN42G5Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00
[07:04:30] <XXCoder> though it definitely can charge my phone 5x times, with ankin usb cable
[07:04:36] <Ralith_> for some reason batteries are rated in mAh even when it's wildly inappropriate
[07:05:08] <XXCoder> its closer to 4 times with el cheapo usb cable
[07:05:32] <Jymmm> That is 11.2Ah, and by the physical size, I'm wondering if that's "chinese AH's"
[07:05:40] <XXCoder> it isnt
[07:05:57] <XXCoder> my "chinese Ah" tiny battery pack dont even half charge my phone
[07:06:01] <Jymmm> did you test it for days?
[07:06:06] <XXCoder> yep
[07:06:09] <Jymmm> liar
[07:06:18] <XXCoder> It's my backup battery charger at work
[07:06:29] <XXCoder> once per few weeks I bring it home to top it up
[07:06:37] <XXCoder> I dont use it often but handy.
[07:06:58] <Jymmm> how much was it?
[07:07:16] <XXCoder> I bought it on half off at $15.98
[07:07:45] <Jymmm> 11AH for $30, eh, maybe.
[07:07:57] <Ralith_> at what voltage?
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[07:08:02] <XXCoder> I got usb name wrong, its Anker
[07:08:06] <Jymmm> Ralith: usb, so 5
[07:08:12] <Ralith> that's very realistic
[07:08:23] <XXCoder> Jymmm: get ankin cable, trust me
[07:08:43] <XXCoder> phones charge little bit faster and battery pack uses less power charging phone
[07:08:45] <Ralith> my ebike is powered by 200Wh I got for a mere $80
[07:08:52] <XXCoder> not WOW but there is difference.
[07:08:52] <Ralith> and that's measured
[07:09:04] <Jymmm> XXCoder: what cable?
[07:09:14] <XXCoder> anker usb cable
[07:09:15] <XXCoder> a sec
[07:09:21] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DOCZAC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A294P4X9EWVXLJ
[07:09:23] <Jymmm> Ralith: 200WH, sure
[07:10:22] <Ralith> well, you've got 55Wh, which makes it slightly more expensive per Wh, which accounts for the case and sockets and hopefully regulators
[07:10:54] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Tell ya what, you hand that kevlar cabe to any cat and see if it still works after 24 hours =)
[07:11:07] <XXCoder> heh
[07:12:42] <Ralith> speaking of which, I still need to get a voltage converter set up on my bike for phone charging
[07:13:23] <Jymmm> or get a 100V phone =)
[07:13:44] <Ralith> hah
[07:13:47] <XXCoder> Jymmm: btw if you get one of those anker usb cable, and microusb breaks short time later, contact em, they will replace em as it was part of flawed production run
[07:13:55] <XXCoder> one of my 3 usb cables was flawed
[07:14:19] <Jymmm> k
[07:17:04] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I'm using a pwr pack like this atm (2600mAh) http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-Bank-USB-New-Portable-Mobile-Power-2600mAh-Battery-Charger-Key-Chain-For-iphone-HTC-Samsung/32582014447.html
[07:17:33] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I have a bunch of them I got locally a ways back when on sale =)
[07:17:34] <XXCoder> heh and its still running after 22 hours? dang
[07:17:54] <Jymmm> Well, on LOW, yes.
[07:18:00] <XXCoder> 2.6 chinese Ah
[07:18:06] <Jymmm> lol
[07:18:25] <Jymmm> We'll see when I test on HIGH
[07:18:30] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:19:00] <Jymmm> also good for working under sinks /counters as it doesn't roll around like a flashligh and it's FLOOD instead of beam
[07:19:13] <XXCoder> thats good diea
[07:19:14] <Jymmm> stand on end/back too
[07:19:22] <XXCoder> and its cheap enough you can use 10
[07:19:45] <XXCoder> many vanage points means area is effectively lit
[07:20:03] <Jymmm> and can attach ight to pack with a lanyard
[07:20:22] <Jymmm> as not to drain pack parasitically
[07:20:36] <Jymmm> in storage that is
[07:21:04] <XXCoder> yeah makes sense
[07:22:02] <Jymmm> ghetto eCandles =)
[07:22:10] <XXCoder> indeed.
[07:23:23] <Jymmm> and can charge phone too =)
[07:24:12] <XXCoder> great for emergacy as it probably would only charge my pohone to 25% to 50% heh
[07:26:31] <XXCoder> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1187836018/qoometer-finally-a-smart-usb-cable-charger-tester?ref=category
[07:26:32] <XXCoder> weird
[07:27:44] <XXCoder> not bad idea really
[07:27:51] <XXCoder> quick way to see how good chargers are
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[07:29:08] <Ralith> you can get USB power meters for less money than that on amazon
[07:29:23] <Ralith> lol
[07:29:23] <XXCoder> its more than just meter
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[07:38:09] <Jymmm> Eh, I have the prior version of this http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__75944__Turnigy_180A_Watt_Meter_and_Power_Analyzer.html?strSearch=Turnigy%20meter
[07:39:02] <Jymmm> the 130A version =)
[07:39:49] <XXCoder> Ralith: any amazon links?
[07:40:04] <XXCoder> I noticed amazon now requires $50 or so for free shipping :(
[07:40:17] <Jymmm> still $35 I thought
[07:40:35] <Ralith> XXCoder: oh, it's in CAD, nvm
[07:40:45] <Ralith> Jymmm: they just raised it
[07:40:52] <XXCoder> my cart has $23.98, it says add $25.02
[07:41:05] <Jymmm> XXCoder: But of ELIGABLE items
[07:41:09] <Ralith> I conceded and got prime ages ago
[07:41:19] <Jymmm> XXCoder: if one already offers free shipping, that amount doens't count
[07:41:31] <XXCoder> Jymmm: I know...
[07:41:34] <XXCoder> still $50
[07:41:55] <XXCoder> isnt prime $100 a year?
[07:42:03] <XXCoder> pretty decent but then dunno
[07:42:23] <Jymmm> those bastards!
[07:42:41] <Jymmm> $49 pricks!
[07:43:05] <XXCoder> nah $50
[07:43:18] <XXCoder> actually it is $49 hm
[07:43:21] <XXCoder> weird number
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[07:45:04] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Told ya, ya cocky lil bastard
[07:45:06] <Jymmm> !
[07:45:11] <XXCoder> lol
[07:45:31] <XXCoder> geez 3d desktop guys again in kickstarter
[07:45:37] <XXCoder> 3d desktop will never ever work.
[07:46:04] <XXCoder> it may FINALLY happen with 3d tech but not on normal montiors
[07:47:20] <Jymmm> I got soe 10W leds too, but I need to make soem heatsinks before I can really play with them.
[07:47:38] <XXCoder> go to scrap place grab cpu aliminium heat sinks
[07:48:16] <Jymmm> I have some alum I can use, just need to drill and tap it
[07:48:40] <XXCoder> titan 3d printer, $0 pledged, 5 days left
[07:48:43] <XXCoder> not a success.
[07:50:19] <XXCoder> lol https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/223036087/continuous-metal-gleaner?ref=category
[07:50:23] <XXCoder> it fails so hard
[07:52:06] <minibnz> you can see why it failed.. its a expensive upgrade kit for a replicator 1.. and wants to charge $100 for led lights and a fan shroud.. WTF must have really been into the weed bowl by the time they made up the highest reward teir../
[07:52:31] <Jymmm> hahahaha
[07:52:34] <minibnz> oh and its lasercut plywood...
[07:52:41] <Jymmm> smokeing the front yard weeds
[07:52:51] <minibnz> $50 will get you the pdf plans to laser cut your own.. WTF
[07:52:51] <XXCoder> smoking hemp heh
[07:53:23] <XXCoder> oh brother
[07:53:39] <XXCoder> I didnt bother to read tht one, thanks for making me read. minibnz its funny
[07:54:07] <minibnz> i got mixed up with the titan 1.. which is a SLA printer...
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[07:54:40] <XXCoder> basically, very low resolution montior. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/magicpixel/magic-pixel-bluetooth-full-color-led-display?ref=category
[07:54:53] <minibnz> i wanted to see what made them think they would make any money this late in the game.. the time to kickstart a 3d printer has long since past.. was thinking they had a breakthru..
[07:55:41] <XXCoder> it'd be awesome if stacked, making a HUGE external display. then it is very fine resolution. but that small size...
[07:56:55] <minibnz> interesting.. 55 pound a bit exxy but i like the idea.. just dont have a use for that at this time :)
[07:57:04] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:57:35] <minibnz> oh thats the discounted price.. 109 pound is way too $$$$
[07:57:36] <XXCoder> cheapest aviliable is now 65 pounds
[07:57:38] <XXCoder> no charger
[07:58:41] <XXCoder> yet another https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/honingh312/honing-h312-cnc-mill?ref=category
[07:59:22] <XXCoder> can mill stainless though
[08:00:00] <minibnz> $2900 is way too high for that bed size :)
[08:00:17] <XXCoder> its a failure anyway
[08:00:47] <minibnz> dont get me wrong it looks nice and solid when compared to any desktopy i have seen but still .. for $2900 you can get bigger and better results from a proper mill.
[08:02:00] <XXCoder> heh look at people, smiling constantly https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1993414184/the-hydra-light-pl-500-salt-water-energycell-lante
[08:02:09] <minibnz> the PCB they cut is a bit rough loot at the diagonals on it.
[08:02:53] <XXCoder> I can see it on ss but not others
[08:03:54] <XXCoder> "Salt Water EnergyCell - the EC-250 - that works via the interaction of a replaceable PowerRod and a proprietary carbon based membrane."
[08:04:08] <XXCoder> $100 power rod, $50 membrane
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[08:04:15] <minibnz> yeah its almost like it uses the galvanic effect
[08:04:23] <Deejay> moin
[08:04:31] <XXCoder> hey
[08:04:52] <Deejay> :)
[08:06:05] <XXCoder> it never says price ofn "powerrod" the part that wears with use
[08:06:19] <minibnz> i know i was looking for that too..
[08:06:33] <minibnz> i want to know what its made from.. zinc maybe?
[08:06:47] <XXCoder> one power rod = 250 hours
[08:07:01] <Jymmm> XXCoder: "Replacement PowerRod 2-packs start at $9."
[08:07:08] <minibnz> 10 days..
[08:07:41] <XXCoder> Jymmm: thanks
[08:07:53] <XXCoder> $9 for 250 hours is WAY better than aa batteries.
[08:08:02] <Jymmm> http://www.hydra-light.com/#!buy/adthb
[08:09:11] <XXCoder> 2x 250 hours. $9 for 500 hours
[08:09:22] <minibnz> hmmm wonder if i can get the rods..
[08:09:46] <minibnz> they would be kinda good for a camping/doomsday kit...
[08:10:10] <minibnz> taking a guess its zinc and carbon that makes like a oldschool battery
[08:10:23] <XXCoder> yeah
[08:10:46] <XXCoder> ancient tech with modern tech overlay to make it effective
[08:10:57] <minibnz> i know they use zinc blocks on metal boats as a sacraficial anode..
[08:11:12] <Jymmm> minibnz: http://www.westmarine.com/zincs-anodes
[08:11:26] <XXCoder> I wonder if it would work with that
[08:11:34] <XXCoder> if so, cheap resource lol
[08:11:44] <minibnz> oh those pencil anodes lok like the shiz..
[08:11:57] <minibnz> $1.80
[08:12:26] <XXCoder> $57 one is best option
[08:13:49] <Jymmm> minibnz: https://goodwinds.com/carbon/solid-round.html
[08:14:43] <Jymmm> minibnz: do I gotta look for salt for ya too? (rolls eyes ;)
[08:15:21] <minibnz> heheh
[08:15:31] <minibnz> here is my hand.. take me there..
[08:15:58] <Jymmm> minibnz: No, I won't touch you in your special place!
[08:16:01] <XXCoder> lol
[08:16:13] <minibnz> i have a bag of salt here waiting for a purpose.. :)
[08:16:40] <minibnz> its waiting for when i shoot a critter and want to keep the hide in a attempt to tan it myself..
[08:16:41] <Jymmm> add water and 100A to it
[08:16:59] <minibnz> ih ave a hydrogen cell on the shelf.. it works well.
[08:17:11] <Jymmm> seriously?
[08:17:27] <minibnz> it only takes 10amps at 5v any more than that and you just boil the water...
[08:17:44] <XXCoder> I heard of old style method of using piss
[08:18:17] <minibnz> hmm salt and amonia...
[08:18:30] <minibnz> wonder if that effects the life time..
[08:18:30] <Jymmm> just add bleach now =)
[08:18:37] <XXCoder> you'd have to store pee though
[08:18:41] <XXCoder> big barrel
[08:18:52] <XXCoder> just build a pee-only restroom above it
[08:18:52] <Jymmm> XXCoder: it's called a bladder, mkay?!
[08:18:52] <minibnz> i store that in my bladder :)
[08:18:57] <minibnz> its kinda big :)
[08:19:01] <XXCoder> heh
[08:19:10] <minibnz> and is fun to fill with beer :)
[08:19:25] <XXCoder> scientists found a way to generate good power from pee though
[08:19:47] <XXCoder> I bet ya someday all pee in large building would be used to generate power
[08:20:24] <minibnz> oh bags not maintaining that system
[08:23:25] <XXCoder> minibnz: pee helps make it easier to remove flesh and hair
[08:23:46] <minibnz> i am going to have a crack at bio fuels.. i saw a atricle on a source of really efficient microbes that will break grass clippings down to simple sugars for fermentation.. and the source is clean and green and renewable.. you take the contents of a goat stomach and use that as your seed microbes..
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[08:24:22] <minibnz> the animal microbes have proven to be as efficient or better then the man made ones so far..
[08:24:46] <minibnz> just gotta go shoot a wild goat and keep its guts warm.. totally the opposite of what a normal hunter does.../
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[08:25:12] <minibnz> i guess you could also use cows but which stomach would you use?
[08:25:25] <XXCoder> could just gut it, stuff guts in basket with warmer
[08:25:42] <XXCoder> and put rest of body into refergation to keep meat good for eating
[08:25:49] <XXCoder> bit messy but less waste
[08:25:49] <minibnz> yeah was thinking you need to keep that pretty stable..
[08:26:16] <minibnz> if its gets too hot or too cold you might kill them.
[08:27:25] <minibnz> i guess i could go the route that some muslims go, that is go buy a goat and slit its throat.. then i can do that out back in the yard..
[08:28:23] <minibnz> i would prefer to shoot it in the head but that would be breaking some laws in a semi residential area.. will at least get the cops called on my ass..
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[08:32:04] <minibnz> lots to do on that before i need a goat..
[08:32:21] <minibnz> need to have a stihl and a fermenting vat and warmer..
[08:43:01] <minibnz> i guess i could use rabbits guts as well.. i have access to plenty of those :)
[08:43:20] <XXCoder> lol
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[08:43:38] <XXCoder> can cure leather and make rabbit leather wallet or something
[08:43:49] <minibnz> rabbit is so tasty.. and easy to hunt.. you just setup the hide and wait :)
[08:44:19] <Jymmm> But it's DUCK SEASON!
[08:44:23] <bman49> hello, does anyone have any good beginner guides for linuxCNC/Gcode based implimentation? I recently helped a friend get a table he purchased running which employees gecko drivers
[08:44:24] <minibnz> that is the plan the next time i get some keep the skins.. the GF wants slippers and i need a sandbag for the range :)
[08:44:54] <bman49> I used linuxCNC after I failed to get mach to work properly on the old XP machine it was purchased with 'as-is'
[08:45:00] <minibnz> Jymmm its not duck season until my shotgun arrives :)
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[08:45:47] <minibnz> bman49 i fyou need the gcodes supported you can use the gcode guide thats in the menu
[08:46:23] <minibnz> that is the quick start guide to the gcodes. it shows you what you need for each gcommand and mcommand.. it should be similar if not the same as mach3
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[08:46:57] <minibnz> jymmm its a lever action and its due in 2 weeks before my birthday.. in april.
[08:47:30] <bman49> maybe I should re-word my question: I have LinuxCNC working to a point where
[08:47:40] <XXCoder> Jymmm: no, it's rabbit season!
[08:47:49] <XXCoder> time to hunt wabbits!
[08:47:55] <minibnz> hahahahah
[08:48:11] <bman49> I can implement the basic program to get LinuxCNC engraved in a 2x4, but I am looking at resources to create and optomize my own designs/Gcode
[08:48:22] <minibnz> as far as i can tell its always rabbit season except for when its really cold..
[08:48:54] <bman49> Am I missing where those resources are in the linuxcnc documentation or can you recommend any 3rd part resources
[08:48:54] <XXCoder> rabbits is everywhere
[08:49:02] <minibnz> bman49 so you want the program to draw the items or to take your cad files and generate gcodes?
[08:49:39] <bman49> I don't have existing cad files, I want to learn the best practice way to make them with linuxcnc in mind
[08:49:44] <archivist> bman49, either write gcode yourself or use a CAM program to generate gcode
[08:50:21] <minibnz> i do both.. i write my own gcode.. and i also use generators. like dxf2gcode.py
[08:50:32] <archivist> I just used the gcode docs and started writing my own gcode
[08:51:01] <bman49> thanks for the suggestion minibnz
[08:51:06] <minibnz> i am a little too lazy for that.. curves/arcs do my head in...
[08:51:59] <minibnz> bman the big liimitation with dxf2gcode is that its only a profile path generator ie it wont clear out a pocket it will only cut the outline.
[08:52:08] <archivist> I use a rotary table what arc problem :)
[08:52:15] <bman49> dang
[08:52:36] <bman49> yeah this is a fixed table, with a manual router which is automated using DC motors w/ encoders
[08:54:23] <bman49> so any suggested links to read besides http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/
[08:54:37] <minibnz> bman you will find dxf2gcode usefull. all you need to do is draw multiple paths keeping the cutter size in mind. eg to pocket a circle with a 5mm cutter you can draw circles in 5mm steps to pocket it out.. or 4mm steps to have overlap.
[08:55:37] <bman49> ok. I think I know what you are talking about. about 10 years ago I worked with a friend and we used a strictly 2d program and did something like that to force pockets
[08:55:42] <minibnz> bman other than google stick with the linuxcnc guide so you dont have to really worry about "does this command work like this" questions
[08:56:35] <minibnz> that will get you operational until you can either purchase a gcode generator or you learn the nitty gritty of the gcode
[08:57:16] <bman49> so what would you recommend to generate the DXFs to run the python script on
[08:57:21] <bman49> both open source and/or paid
[08:57:28] <minibnz> sometimes i use both together.. i will massage the dxf2gcode output to suit my needs.. like if i wanted to do a real sprial plunge
[08:58:55] <bman49> Yeah I remember my friend back then who know Gcode real well would use the program for 90+% and then make tweaks to certain cuts before sending to the haas
[08:59:24] <minibnz> oh you will find the paid programs that will be more than enough to do what you want.. that is you wont need dxf2gcode if you use something good
[09:00:04] <minibnz> its not the best its just the one free one i could get to actually run on linux or mac.
[09:00:58] <minibnz> i dont use windows so i am hobbled a little there.. there are quite a few paid windows programs out there that have all the bells and whistles and then some..
[09:01:14] <bman49> what programs do you use for instance
[09:01:17] <minibnz> there is not a whole lot out there on linux and mac at the moment
[09:01:46] <minibnz> i draw my things in solidworks in a windows VM then take DXF's and use dxf2gcode..
[09:02:02] <bman49> ok thanks
[09:02:11] <minibnz> but that is only cux i didnt pay for solidworks my work did..
[09:02:25] <minibnz> they folded so i now own the license :)
[09:02:28] <bman49> I could probably model at work in my down time as well
[09:03:42] <bman49> I appreciate your time responding to my questions minibnz, have a good night/evening. I will be on tomorrow to ask some more questions I am sure
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[09:03:50] <minibnz> if you dont mind doing it online i saw an adver for redstack they are offering online version of inventor for $300/year
[09:04:14] <minibnz> then the free option for online is sketchup
[09:04:25] <bman49> gotcha, I have not monetized my designs yet so that would be alittle steep for now
[09:04:30] <minibnz> but i have not used any of that..
[09:05:19] <minibnz> yeah thats what i thought too.. initially i stole solid works.. and protel.. with intentions of learning and if i make a product that i want to sell i would then go and buy them..
[09:05:32] <minibnz> but now i got hand me down licenses on both :)
[09:06:01] <bman49> alright, thanks again minibnz... cheers
[09:06:02] <minibnz> its not the latest or greatest but they are very functional.. at the moment i use SW2010..
[09:06:46] <minibnz> no problems.. enjoy your journey...
[09:07:02] <minibnz> take a torch there are a lot of dark rabbit holes :)
[09:15:38] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvza7ZbJCDE
[09:15:46] <XXCoder> warning: shaky camera
[09:16:05] <minibnz> its ok i have my stack hat on..
[09:17:03] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhaKhCt_hx0&feature=youtu.be
[09:17:07] <XXCoder> someone else made it
[09:17:11] <XXCoder> better quality I'd say
[09:19:12] <minibnz> pretty cool..
[09:19:42] <minibnz> music sucks arse..
[09:19:50] <XXCoder> wouldnt know
[09:20:12] <minibnz> its edm its not music...
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[10:29:38] <mikegg> morning guys
[10:29:59] <mikegg> hey, what's the right way to hook up a probe to a 7i76?
[10:30:34] <mikegg> higher voltage better, or lower?
[10:30:55] <mikegg> should I throw a resistor in there somewhere?
[10:34:43] <archivist> depends on the probe
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[10:35:45] <archivist> not found a lot on the internet for sensible voltage and current for contact type probes
[10:36:01] <mikegg> it's one of the ones with ball bearings and pins 120 degress apart
[10:36:15] <archivist> Renishaw tend to sell a interface box for that job
[10:36:17] <mikegg> where moving the sylus opens the circuit
[10:36:26] <minibnz> if its just a contuniuty type probe you can add one for protection of the port. but with the lower current it might pickup noise so use sheilded cables.
[10:36:43] <mikegg> yeah, have a shielded cable
[10:37:17] <archivist> the old interface I have has a comparator in it
[10:37:56] <minibnz> if i cant find any details on input current/voltages for the inputs i would start with 1k.. @5v you have 5ma flowing then you can go up or down if you need more or less.
[10:38:01] <mikegg> I'm not familiar with those. What's it do compare the measurement signal to some reference?
[10:38:25] <archivist> need to reverse engineer the circuit
[10:38:33] <minibnz> the comparator cleans up the signal from the probe, may even add hysterissis..
[10:38:44] <mikegg> ahh gotcha
[10:38:51] <archivist> and possible a little filtering
[10:39:12] <mikegg> I think I'm just going to hook it up to the GPIO just like I have the limit switches
[10:39:20] <mikegg> with +24VDC field power
[10:39:31] <mikegg> see how it performs
[10:40:06] <archivist> I did find a doc where they mention a change in resistance is the measurement point for most sensitivity/accuracy
[10:40:07] <mikegg> let it probe a few dozen times and see if it's drifting
[10:40:26] <mikegg> oh wow
[10:40:28] <mikegg> that's fancy
[10:41:10] <mikegg> I mean, for most of what I'm doing, if it's within .001" that's fine with me
[10:41:18] <archivist> and also the accuracy depends on direction (its lobed due to the 3 contacts)
[10:41:22] <minibnz> oh the thing you need to watch would be arcing.. if the voltage/currents are high you may get contacts arcing that will hurt things (sensitivity) over time as the carbon builds up.. if you are using 24v add a resistor. are the inputs 24v tolerant?
[10:42:03] <mikegg> yeah, I was worried about arcing... The inputs are 24v tolerant
[10:42:23] <archivist> minimum volt/current for less damage but enough for wetting current possible
[10:42:57] <mikegg> so, just trying to think
[10:43:14] <mikegg> would the resistor go in series with the GPIO input?
[10:43:27] <mikegg> or do I run that in parallel to ground
[10:43:29] <minibnz> sweet add a 10k resistor and you will be fine.. in general
[10:43:30] <minibnz> try a 10k resistor in series for 24v.. in general that will also protect the inputs if the cable was to be cut/pinched etc..
[10:43:40] <archivist> I have a couple of probes that were not working well, no where could I find contact resistance spec
[10:44:02] <mikegg> ok, will give that a shot
[10:44:05] <mikegg> thanks minibnz
[10:44:20] <archivist> I think 24 is a bit high
[10:44:36] <archivist> certainly higher than renishaw uses
[10:44:46] <minibnz> yeah it probably is.. but if thats all that he has handy :)
[10:45:03] <archivist> simple to fix :)
[10:45:24] <minibnz> the only problem i have is that its probably the stepper driver voltage so it might not be really clean. and 24v has a lot of potential to blow things up when things go wrong..
[10:45:47] <minibnz> other than that 24v is ok..
[10:46:30] <archivist> isnt there a 5v out from the card
[10:47:05] <minibnz> might be i dont own a mesa yet :(
[10:47:05] <archivist> absolutely dont use the stepper supply
[10:48:02] <minibnz> i have a 24v supply that is my stepper drive and then another supply at 12v for other things and reg 5v off that.. only use the 24v for noise things like motors..
[10:48:31] <minibnz> 12v is good for solenoids and relays. and 5 is good for limits and encoders
[10:49:39] <archivist> on the 5 axis I have isolated 12v for the 0-10v for the vfd
[10:49:41] <minibnz> my DRO's use a 1.8v rail.. i am surprised i dont have a lot of noise on them.. the factory cables must be better than i thought.
[10:50:03] <minibnz> ahhh nice and clean for the VFD :)
[10:52:08] <archivist> more thinking of vfd getting back into the breakout board
[10:52:32] <minibnz> oh the other way..
[10:53:03] <minibnz> i have a RC servo on its own feed of 12v reg'd down to 5v.. those things are so noisey...
[10:54:10] <minibnz> was sure to slap all the caps on the inputs and outputs of the reg.. i checked the 12v rail with the CRO and cant see anything nasty going on.. still have to sort out the noise on my A axis stepper.
[10:54:46] <minibnz> i cannot get the Axis to do exaclty 360' its always too short or too long.. only thing i can think of is noise..
[10:55:59] <minibnz> hmmmm maybe not noise.. it might be the optos on the stepper board beinf too slow. my A axis has the highest gear ratio so it might not be able to keep up with what i am asking..
[10:56:31] <minibnz> i have seen other people just bypass them and get better results from these boards.
[11:01:50] <archivist> well RC server says it all :)
[11:01:55] <archivist> servo
[11:02:35] <minibnz> yup but it works :) it turns the speed knob on my mill.. G3 Woot..
[11:03:08] <minibnz> thought about a stepper but it seemed like overkill
[11:03:57] <minibnz> a stepper i could over-ride much easier.. i have a switch that lets me got to manual mode until i get my speeds right..
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[11:56:40] <pink_vampire|2> good morning :)
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[11:59:50] <miss0r|shop> goodmorning(afternoon in my case)
[12:00:58] <miss0r|shop> I would like to say, that I am proud of my fly cutter. I just made two parrallel surfaces with it. and the surface runout is only 0.002mm over a surface of 230x95mm
[12:01:18] <miss0r|shop> in mild steel
[12:02:01] <SpeedEvil> yay
[12:02:30] <miss0r|shop> I think that is pretty good for a flycutter. (not that I have alot of experience with it anyway)
[12:03:13] <SpeedEvil> what machine?
[12:03:29] <miss0r|shop> on a TOS FNK 25A old communist machine
[12:04:43] <miss0r|shop> next up is building a flycutter with a radius of 200mm
[12:05:13] <miss0r|shop> The idea is getting the surface sweet enough, to not wear down my surface grinder too fast
[12:06:12] <minibnz> 200mm thats huge.. my mill groans and complains if i go past 20-30mm
[12:06:19] <minibnz> but i have a tiny mill.. :)
[12:07:13] <miss0r|shop> minibnz: this mill is everything but tiny. well. it is a good sized mill - but in my shop it realy dominates
[12:07:20] <minibnz> i purchased a small set of three and the smallest one is the biggest i am going to try and push its about 18mm at the head with a 10mm shaft.. the other two i am giving to my mate who has a larger mill..
[12:07:22] <miss0r|shop> what mill is that anyway?
[12:07:59] <minibnz> seig X2 / harbour freight/grizzly/hm10 hare and forbes
[12:08:20] <miss0r|shop> 5 mills ? :S
[12:08:48] <mikegg> hey, it's working guys. I just ran it straight into the 7i76 input with 27 vdc
[12:08:49] <minibnz> all the same just clones or re-badged
[12:09:02] <pink_vampire> miss0r|shop: what type pf machine?
[12:09:05] <pink_vampire> http://9gag.com/gag/aDo7E1O?sc=wtf
[12:09:13] <mikegg> the stepper motors get power from a different tap on the transformer
[12:09:23] <mikegg> so dunno if that makes a differenc
[12:09:31] <minibnz> hmm that makes no diff really
[12:09:47] <miss0r|shop> pink_vampire: http://www.metal-tech.com/images/tos_FNK25A.jpg
[12:09:50] <mikegg> I tried it on 5 vdc from the PC, but I think it was not enough to trigger the input
[12:10:09] <minibnz> what resistor did you use?
[12:10:46] <mikegg> i just went straight in. the inputs are 32 v tolerant
[12:10:51] <miss0r|shop> mikegg: Might I reccomend you place a few optocouplers in there?
[12:11:07] <mikegg> I think it is opto isolated
[12:11:10] <mikegg> not sure...
[12:11:10] <pink_vampire> miss0r|shop: you like the big toys.. you have enough iron to stabilise the cut..
[12:11:49] <miss0r|shop> pink_vampire: indeed. I also have a Jakobsen SJ-16 http://www.wotol.com/images/thumbs/800x800/1089503_8b409f97000033bf92eac786f3c2aa63.jpg
[12:12:09] <mikegg> yes, manual says "isolated field I/O"
[12:12:17] <mikegg> that means it has optocouplers right?
[12:12:21] <miss0r|shop> other than that I have two CNC mills. One is a home converted arboga U2508 and the other is a desktop model from Roland DG, called PNC-3100
[12:12:45] <miss0r|shop> mikegg: that is probally how they isolated it, yes.
[12:12:45] <pink_vampire> miss0r|shop: Awww that a cute surface grinder <3
[12:13:23] <miss0r|shop> pink_vampire: With a work area of 300x800mm (I have it at my friends shop) I realy can't fit it in here - and he was kind enough to lend me some space
[12:13:52] <minibnz> mikegg looking at the manual for the 7i76 24vdc will be fine it says thats common for the inputs.
[12:14:17] <pink_vampire> I need to work on find friends like that..
[12:14:23] <archivist> not so nice for the probe though
[12:14:24] <minibnz> and yes the inputs are issolated
[12:14:59] <archivist> mikegg, which probe is it?
[12:15:11] <miss0r|shop> pink_vampire: well. I do mill engine heads for him(is that the name? - the top part with the vents in it)
[12:15:35] <minibnz> yup also called cylinder head.
[12:15:58] <mikegg> one of these: http://www.tormach.com/product_tts_passive_probe.html
[12:16:30] <miss0r|shop> indeed. cylinder head
[12:16:32] <pink_vampire> I make probe like that.
[12:16:44] <miss0r|shop> meh... I have to run. see you guys around
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[12:16:48] <pink_vampire> very easy to make,
[12:17:00] <mikegg> ...yeah I know. I thought about making one just for fun
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[12:17:11] <archivist> mikegg, those are a bit nicer than the cheap ones, expect contacts to need cleaning more often
[12:17:21] <Sync> the problem is getting it to register all the same all the time
[12:17:34] <Sync> that's why the heidenhain or renishaw laser ones are so nice
[12:18:19] <mikegg> expensive too
[12:18:42] <pink_vampire> just make 3 set screws for calibration, and you need 7 small ball bearings, 1 soft spring (from a pen), pcb sheet, and some 1/8"~ rod.
[12:19:37] <pink_vampire> 6 balls for the switches, and one for the tip.
[12:20:19] <Sync> well, better than being unreliable mikegg
[12:21:10] <Sync> the problem with the balls is reliability, my heidenhain tt160 uses some clever analog measurement deal
[12:21:14] <minibnz> pink_vampire i am planning on making a probe but will be using a peizo speaker as the sensor as it bends it puts out a pulse of current. and should be pretty stable in all directions.. i think its easier to build than the balls and probe
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[12:21:44] <archivist> Sync, lvdt or strain guage?
[12:21:53] <Sync> and guarantees a 2σ smaller than 1µm
[12:22:01] <Sync> archivist: 6ball
[12:22:55] <pink_vampire> how you are going to attache the tip to the piazzo?
[12:23:20] <archivist> erm Probe accuracy ±15 µm
[12:24:16] <pink_vampire> piezo*
[12:24:45] <minibnz> basically my plan is to machine a the shaft to have a cup at the end that supports the top of the peizo then a steel disc that has a locating hole. and the probe is magneticlly attached. this disc will be held up with a threaded nut..
[12:25:10] <pink_vampire> ok..
[12:25:18] <minibnz> so when the probe is pushed the disc bends the peizo a bit and if you crash it the magnets let go.
[12:25:29] <archivist> minibnz, you need to think of over travel
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[12:26:12] <archivist> on contact the machine cannot stop instantly
[12:27:11] <pink_vampire> minibnz: and magnet is not the best solution is you want high repeatability
[12:27:16] <minibnz> this is true.. bit if you slow everything down you can get over that.. worst case i replace the magnets with a spring.
[12:27:39] <Sync> yup archivist
[12:27:44] <Sync> but absolute value is not important
[12:27:50] <minibnz> or spring steel/ flexible probe rod. something with a bit of give.
[12:27:52] <Sync> low 2σ is
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[12:28:36] <pink_vampire> 6 strain gage on spider will bee better solution
[12:28:43] <minibnz> the good thing is i can just change the disc
[12:29:19] <pink_vampire> but how you are going to center the tip??
[12:29:42] <minibnz> i thought about using multiple peizo's. in a x formation but thought that was overkill.
[12:30:05] <pink_vampire> too much flex..
[12:30:11] <minibnz> not 100% certain yet. i figure for now the retaining nut will locate that.
[12:30:19] <pink_vampire> vibrations will give you false reading.
[12:30:36] <minibnz> yeah thats one worry i have too..
[12:30:51] <Sync> the 6ball is not too bad, but the electronics are the hard part
[12:31:02] <Sync> a simple one is easy
[12:31:03] <pink_vampire> why do you want to avoid kinematic probe?
[12:31:16] <Sync> but getting it to read reliably is not
[12:31:18] <minibnz> wouldn't a six ball just have all the balls in series so any one can break the loop?
[12:31:34] <archivist> yes
[12:32:30] <Sync> yup, but you get problems with accuracy
[12:32:35] <minibnz> i thought a peizo sensor would be reliable in the long term. no corosion.
[12:32:42] <Sync> heidenhain biases them and measures capacitance when they start to lift
[12:32:57] <minibnz> ooooo thats tricky :)
[12:33:09] <minibnz> you could do that with a PIC really easy..
[12:33:14] <archivist> renishaw talk about measuring the resistance change at lift
[12:33:32] <Sync> yup, probably because HH has the capacitance patented :D
[12:34:18] <pink_vampire> the shaft of the probe can be even bend but as long as you calibrate the the outer shell of your sphere tip to be concentric with the mount - you will get correct readings.
[12:34:20] <minibnz> i guess i could do a capacitance one as well, just for kicks and see which one is better :)
[12:34:38] <archivist> but renishaw has moved on to strain gauge :)
[12:35:02] <Sync> for their touchprobes? yeah I wondered why nobody was using them
[12:35:20] <Sync> most of the tool setters are laser now
[12:35:55] <minibnz> hmmm thats something else i should look at too :)
[12:36:04] <pink_vampire> you can make the laser one with ccd bar
[12:36:06] <archivist> less contact damage to the cutter
[12:37:01] <minibnz> a capacitive one would be easy enough to make :)
[12:37:53] <minibnz> hmm ccd bar would be even easier :)
[12:38:04] <pink_vampire> yes..
[12:38:09] <pink_vampire> old scanner..
[12:38:31] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5gkg645xGE
[12:39:56] <pink_vampire> to read a barcode and to read the length of the cutter is almost the same principle.
[12:40:07] <minibnz> dang i just passed up a box of them when work shut up shop :(
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[12:40:44] <minibnz> the twists and flats could be a probelm in the reflection method. but a breakbeam would be ok
[12:41:42] <archivist> barcode is nothing like tool measuring
[12:41:44] <pink_vampire> with breakbeam you can even use regular ccd and get even the shape of the cutter,
[12:42:31] <archivist> barcode is all about signal/code recovery
[12:42:32] <pink_vampire> archivist: same programming method. you scan and looking for change.
[12:42:39] <archivist> nope
[12:42:41] <Sync> I don't think the side looking ones have a CCD
[12:42:47] <XXCoder> geeeez
[12:42:50] <Sync> you just advance the cutter until it breaks
[12:43:01] <XXCoder> arizona is removing all license requirements
[12:43:18] <Sync> and as you have spindle index anyway you can probably find your flutes easily
[12:43:20] <XXCoder> yeah if I lived there I'd hire outside state to have licensed workers
[12:45:23] <pink_vampire> http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2016/02/25/arizona-bill-would-kill-licensing-requirements-host-professionals-yoga-instructors-geologists/80769878/
[12:45:35] <pink_vampire> you mean to that?^
[12:45:35] <minibnz> how fine of a beam do you need for a break beam?
[12:46:10] <pink_vampire> smallest..
[12:46:51] <minibnz> do i use a 0.25mm drill to make the hole?
[12:47:09] <pink_vampire> but more importantly is to get it from pure source
[12:47:20] <minibnz> or does the sensitivity in the electronics more important?
[12:47:53] <Sync> huh, interesting
[12:48:04] <Sync> how can you teach driving without a license
[12:48:15] <XXCoder> Sync: driving wasnt menioned
[12:48:23] <XXCoder> it was all business professialism stuff
[12:48:27] <pink_vampire> you have to avoid diffraction of the beam.
[12:48:27] <XXCoder> like builder license
[12:49:01] <XXCoder> it includes inspection licenses lkike water condition checker and stuff like that
[12:49:21] <minibnz> dang sounds like a free for all..
[12:49:30] <XXCoder> opens up to "that water totally look fine - hey I work for water inspoection!"
[12:50:04] <minibnz> slurp .. thats a pass..
[12:50:28] <XXCoder> *groan* "Yep totally perfect fresh water"
[12:50:29] <minibnz> i dont see no bugs it must be a bug free house :)
[12:50:51] <pink_vampire> if you will have high amount of diffraction instead of blocking just the pixels you want, you will get small amount of radiation on the other ones ass well
[12:51:49] <pink_vampire> also over power laser will also increase the amount of the diffraction.
[12:51:52] <minibnz> sharp edges can act like a lens or something..
[12:52:11] <XXCoder> not quite
[12:52:17] <XXCoder> but it does have effect
[12:52:35] <pink_vampire> and curved edges do it even better
[12:53:07] <minibnz> like the radius on a fly cutter tip..
[12:53:33] <pink_vampire> yeah..
[12:54:11] <minibnz> hmmm it might be fun to use a camera.
[12:54:50] <minibnz> there are some that will do windowing for you so it turns it into a strip sensor..
[12:55:11] <pink_vampire> I'm going to make some butter cookies, see you later.
[12:55:22] <minibnz> k
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[13:19:57] <minibnz> ok i bit the bullet and ordered 4 EC25 20bit encoders.. total cost delivered was $45au.. $7.75 each... just hope they are of okay size to use.. i have zero data on them.. it will be fun to play as it will be the same sort of thing i have to do at my new job. they want me to reverse eng the enocder dirver and make it faster :)
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[13:20:48] <Jymmm> then THEY should have paid for them =)
[13:21:38] <minibnz> oh no these are for me to play with on my mill.. they will supply the ones for thier job..
[13:21:56] <minibnz> they are going to pay me to learn how to use them that s enough :)
[13:26:50] <minibnz> hmm 1million counts per rev that means for every rev/second i need to count 1mhz worth of pulses.. 60rpm is 1mhz thats not too bad even 74 logic could handle 20mhz thats 1200rpm but i will probably use a 8 pin PIC to keep the footprint small
[13:29:28] <Sync> careful, you run out of cycles quick with such a fast input signal
[13:30:09] <mikegg> do you guys know how to get Axis to show limit switch inputs? It used to show whenever they were triggered during homing...
[13:30:31] <mikegg> there was a little icon in the live plot. seems missing now..
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[13:33:37] <PetefromTn_> odd that you would need that.. I mean if its setup right and you hit a limit you should KNOW immediately LOL. But even then the envelope lines show where the limts are if setup correctly. I would think you could probably add one if you really wanted it. OR perhaps I am not understanding your problem LOL
[13:35:34] <minibnz> sync yup thats why i need something to divide it up.. just found a nice little pic that should be good enough for my needs. i want to see if i can make it into a pancake form factor to mount onto the front of a standard neam23 stepper and not loose too much of the shaft..
[13:36:24] <minibnz> no datasheets makes this a bit annoying i am not sure how big these things are or how thick they are.. i really am flying blind :)
[13:37:20] <Sync> I don't really think that they provide 20 bit of angular information with good angular accuracy
[13:37:46] <archivist> I dont think those encoders do what you think, a search also mentioned 1024 for me
[13:37:51] <minibnz> i am wondering how i am going to verify this setup..
[13:38:41] <archivist> there are some interpolated encoders
[13:38:53] <archivist> they be of that form
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[13:39:41] <minibnz> i found a info but it was not clear.. so i figured i would just get them and see what i can see with a cro probe
[13:40:34] <archivist> the 20 might be physical clicks to make it feel clicky
[13:40:59] <archivist> as all the web thinks it is a car radio part
[13:41:01] <minibnz> a little.. i think there are many types with different outputs. i also found some that said 20 postions. and 120 position as well..
[13:41:36] <mikegg> PetefromTn_ I figured it out. I unchecked view / show offsets and now it's back to normal
[13:42:11] <minibnz> yeah a damn vovlo at that.. so i am thinkin they are only 20 position
[13:46:15] <minibnz> if they are only 20 position they will not be good enough for the axis.. i think you need equal or more than the stepper steps to make them useful.
[13:47:40] <PetefromTn_> ok great
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[14:01:45] <_methods> never go there if you value your sanity
[14:02:21] <_methods> it's almost as stupid as #reprap
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[14:06:09] <Tom_itx> is that even possible????
[14:06:51] * SpeedEvil found two _really_ old IBM printers in his pile.
[14:07:01] <SpeedEvil> They have nice acme-like thread positioners
[14:07:16] * SpeedEvil ponders a small 3d printer.
[14:07:16] <pink_vampire> junk
[14:07:37] <pink_vampire> junk ^ 2
[14:07:53] <SpeedEvil> By old, I mean the case is very thick sheet steel.
[14:08:03] <SpeedEvil> and the chassis is probably cast iron
[14:08:05] <pink_vampire> pics
[14:08:13] <PetefromTn_> ya know in another life I used to maintain copiers fax machines and printers in office business equipment
[14:08:21] <pink_vampire> cast iron printer??
[14:08:33] <PetefromTn_> it seems like a copier machine would be prime time for parts for a 3d printer
[14:09:06] <PetefromTn_> lots of rigid steel shafts and rails, stepper motors galore, pulleys belts, gears.....
[14:09:29] <Tom_itx> and icky black toner
[14:10:20] <Tom_itx> i had a copier once that had one of those old metal drums in it
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[14:10:21] <PetefromTn_> yeah but what does that have to do with it?
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[14:14:03] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/4rBNH0J - said printer
[14:14:10] <SpeedEvil> archivist: any idea?
[14:14:41] <SpeedEvil> It does not have the rest of the case - which I think would have the model number
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[14:20:06] <archivist> daisy or more likely golf ball printer
[14:21:02] <SpeedEvil> yeah - I need to dig it out properly
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[15:09:02] <witnit> im very unfamiliar with hydraulic systems but, in theory if I were to attach two hydraulic cylinders together with two long lines. If I put a linear servo (ballscrew perhaps) to drive one cylinder, will the other cylinder move in an equal proportion?
[15:10:18] <SpeedEvil> yes
[15:10:39] <witnit> so is this common practice im unaware of?
[15:10:53] <SpeedEvil> there would of course be some spring in the system, and there may be considerable friction
[15:11:29] <SpeedEvil> levers are cheaper, or wire, if you can do it
[15:11:58] <witnit> this would be to actuate a dovetail slide for cutting
[15:12:24] <witnit> in a compact location
[15:12:25] <SpeedEvil> the lines and gaskets all flex and the oil compresses a little
[15:12:27] <archivist> leakage will eventually make it useless
[15:12:31] <SpeedEvil> and that
[15:12:52] <SpeedEvil> depending on all the details, it might help
[15:12:54] <archivist> unless a proper hydraulic servo
[15:12:54] <witnit> yes but if my linear encoder is on the slide and I hard line it proper...
[15:12:57] <witnit> then what?
[15:13:13] <SpeedEvil> the two sides won't alwys match
[15:13:23] <witnit> I dont want to do pump and proportional valve
[15:13:34] <witnit> I only need the output to be accurate
[15:13:41] <witnit> the input is just power
[15:13:52] <SpeedEvil> why do you want it on both sides.
[15:13:59] <SpeedEvil> do you want it to be roughly equal forces.
[15:14:05] <SpeedEvil> or do you want it to be precise
[15:14:27] <witnit> so like this ____SLIDE__{cylinder}======{cylinder}$$$$$BALLSCREW
[15:14:56] <witnit> I need precision at the slide
[15:15:13] <archivist> simpler to put ballscrew to slide direct
[15:15:18] <witnit> no room
[15:15:26] <witnit> compact areas
[15:15:52] <archivist> not much different to a cylinder :)
[15:16:14] <witnit> but then I need a motor
[15:16:58] <archivist> are you trying to cnc one of the automatics?
[15:17:53] <witnit> http://www.internationalscrew.com/images/Products_Services/dav_rebuild_rework_lg.jpg
[15:17:58] <witnit> like that
[15:18:10] <witnit> but see where those springs are in the front
[15:18:33] <witnit> I want to actuate those locations
[15:19:04] <witnit> http://machinest.com/screwmachinist/images/davenport2.JPG
[15:19:06] <witnit> those
[15:19:54] <witnit> that is why I cannot add ballscrew to each location
[15:20:20] <SpeedEvil> Looks to me like wires to ballscrews would work fine
[15:20:21] <archivist> replace the spring with a ballscrew and scale assembly
[15:20:36] <witnit> where would the motors go then?
[15:20:43] <SpeedEvil> on the base
[15:20:51] <witnit> the base is full of cutting fluids
[15:21:19] <gregcnc> how have others done it?
[15:21:19] <archivist> at the top end
[15:21:25] <SpeedEvil> the cables go out sideways round pulleys to ballscrews which pull
[15:22:41] <archivist> and you might be better off being a bit more drastic and go further up the linkage
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[15:23:01] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[15:23:06] <witnit> nobody else has done it
[15:23:11] <witnit> https://youtu.be/N8hBtoNi3EI?t=16
[15:23:35] <archivist> I will have to be further up on mine when I get a roundtuit
[15:23:43] <witnit> maybe that will help you see more whats going on in one
[15:26:26] <witnit> I need to do the end cams too, those other ones are just the side cams, heres the end cams https://youtu.be/dfx-hxBLlpM
[15:30:05] <archivist> remove those sprung levers and push the later on parts
[15:30:50] <archivist> that is basically what I will be doing on my sliding head
[15:31:03] <witnit> what kind of sliding head are you doing?
[15:31:10] <witnit> like a swiss machine type of thing?
[15:31:35] <archivist> yes is is a swiss, earlier version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SKr-R9IX5c
[15:32:40] <witnit> looks like a bechler
[15:33:00] <witnit> s/p?
[15:33:10] <archivist> mine is a bechler
[15:34:01] <witnit> I had the chance to get a couple but decided I wasnt ready to take on another project. would be a great cnc job though
[15:34:17] <archivist> similar lever problem http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2012/2012_08_31_Bechler_N.EA/IMG_1339.JPG
[15:34:30] <witnit> how many individual axis will you have?
[15:35:11] <archivist> dunno, not decided what to do in the front
[15:35:40] <witnit> Im no particularly sure what you would consider the front on that :P
[15:35:58] <archivist> where the live tooling is
[15:36:00] <witnit> spindles on the left?
[15:36:07] <archivist> yes
[15:36:32] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_04_18_Bechler_N.AE/IMG_1529.JPG
[15:37:09] <witnit> thie micro adjusters on those are so nice
[15:39:25] <archivist> I imaging you making something like http://www.jena-tec.co.uk/linear-actuator-downloads.php
[15:39:41] <witnit> in my experience, providing you make yourself some constant rise cams and you set your axis up for wrapped_rotary you can MOST jobs without problems and its costs NOTHING as far as ballscrews and whatnot
[15:41:13] <witnit> cams dont really have much problems when it comes "wear" :)
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[15:44:53] <witnit> you are three 4" servos and a handful of constant rise cams away from a really simple rigid drive system. with your encoder attached to the cam shaft you can make the slide dead on since 0 play between those two spots
[15:46:40] <witnit> I been down the road on those and It just seems like I need a different route
[15:48:41] <archivist> linear pushers with spring play removal as they are now
[15:48:52] <witnit> the space you need to be able to even work on one of those machines is already so limited and then if I add too much around it, its not good either, but it needs to be rigid and it needs to be reliable
[15:49:52] <archivist> Ii have even less space now
[15:50:31] <witnit> If I could maybe use some low quality but larger actuators all in a cabinet, then drive a hydraulic system with the encoders on the slides I could make it extremely compact
[15:50:42] <witnit> but I dont know if thats really the best route
[15:51:03] <witnit> would you consider that a "hydrostatic" system?
[15:53:06] <Sync> well, servo valves tend to be hugely expensive
[15:53:13] <witnit> I guess you can see why I am playing with the idea of this
[15:53:21] <witnit> right servo valve is too much
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[16:01:23] <enleth> while we're at it - do you know of any electric linear actuators with a 50mm or so stroke and *fast* operation?
[16:02:09] <archivist> voice coil type
[16:02:13] <witnit> that depends alot on the load
[16:02:22] <enleth> I'd like to replace the pneumatic actuator that drove the brake lever on my bridgeport with something electric and it proves to be rather difficult
[16:03:02] <witnit> seems like an unusual need
[16:03:08] <enleth> not much force is needed, the lever shaft drives a cam that pushes brake shoes apart inside a drum and that provides a hefty mechanical advantage
[16:03:13] <witnit> just dont want the air?
[16:03:18] <enleth> but the stroke needs to be fast
[16:03:23] <Sync> yeah, a regular voice coil would do
[16:03:24] <enleth> witnit: basically, yes.
[16:04:18] <enleth> witnit: I do have air in the shop, but I don't want to rely on it here, I prefer to avoid keeping the system pressurized if not needed and I don't want to have to start up the compressor every time I want to use the mill
[16:04:31] <witnit> if it a cam, maybe you should use a rotary action instead of a linear one?
[16:04:50] <enleth> that is an option as well
[16:05:02] <enleth> although I'd lose the advantage provided by the lever
[16:05:11] <witnit> so gearmotor instead of linear actuated gear and then back to rotary
[16:05:42] <archivist> or a plain solenoid
[16:05:56] <enleth> a gear motor will be slow-ish for this I think
[16:06:04] <witnit> almost sounds like he would need more like a clutch
[16:06:13] <witnit> so a hefty sylonoid
[16:06:25] <witnit> err spelling so broke
[16:06:39] <enleth> a rack and pinion "piston" is the only thing other than a voice coil solenoid that I could come up with
[16:07:11] <enleth> seems easy enough to make, and fast too
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[16:07:36] <witnit> cam on a motor then aim the cam at the existing lever
[16:07:51] <witnit> 3000 rpm servo, done and done
[16:08:01] <archivist> enleth, http://www.dhgate.com/product/70mm-stroke-dc-24v-2a-liner-tubular-solenoid/157222023.html
[16:08:33] <SpeedEvil> I keep imagining a series of harmonic cams and a whiffletree or something to add them to make arbitrary harmonic motion
[16:08:40] <enleth> archivist: nice. a tad expensive but almost reasonable
[16:09:10] <enleth> the problem with searching for such solenoids on aliexpress etc. is loads and loads of small ones clogging up the results
[16:09:23] <SpeedEvil> inverse search by price
[16:09:24] <archivist> I just searched long stroke solenoid
[16:09:27] <enleth> I need to tune up my search-fu for this
[16:09:51] <witnit> 200gram? oh so you would not need much force
[16:09:59] <SpeedEvil> linear stepper - also
[16:11:15] <enleth> witnit: with the original lever, I can hold it down with one finger to change tools with the other hand, but it's important to hold it at the very limit of travel, where the brake actually engages
[16:11:53] <enleth> I'm pretty sure it's the same deal as in manual 2J2 head bridgeports, the brake mechanism is fully interchangeable
[16:12:23] <enleth> the manuals just have a hand lever that sort of bends downwards to be comfortably within reach
[16:12:54] <enleth> move it up a tiny distance and you lose the grip, though
[16:13:49] <enleth> archivist: OK, "long stroke solenoid" gives some interesting results on ali, thanks
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[16:15:02] <enleth> 34mm stroke for $20, free shipping: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Long-Stroke-AC-220V-8A-2Kg-34mm-Pull-Push-Type-Reset-Style-Electromagnet-for-ZN63/32611116718.html
[16:15:28] <enleth> needs a casing of some kind, but that's not a problem
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[16:15:56] <enleth> the 2kg force rating is probably bullshit but as long as it keeps 1/3 of that it's fine
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[16:18:04] <CaptHindsight> Chinese Kg
[16:18:21] <archivist> force is usually not linear over all the stroke
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[16:18:46] <archivist> from bugger all up to the full holding force
[16:20:31] <enleth> there is one other solution though, I just noticed - I can put one of those small shitty 12V emergency car compressors inside the column just to provide air for the brake
[16:21:06] <archivist> but you wanted quick :)
[16:21:25] <enleth> I can keep that pressurized at all times
[16:21:38] <enleth> so the solenoid would use tank pressure
[16:23:26] <enleth> a 5l tank or so topped off every so often by the shitty compressor should do
[16:23:59] <enleth> I just don't want to keep the 200l tank and all the hoses at pressure all the time
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[16:37:14] <_methods> heh found a cool trick for clamping stuff in my cheapo harbor fright 4x6 band sawe
[16:37:33] <_methods> a strap clamp replaces the stock clamp foot perfectly
[16:37:43] <_methods> make a great low profile clamp
[16:37:59] <_methods> especially for miter cuts since it has limited travel and space
[16:39:56] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2cbxgqd0jlad11/2016-02-27%2011.36.16.jpg?dl=0
[16:41:12] <_methods> the toeclamp has that nice chamfer on the face too
[16:42:06] <_methods> put the clamp in there "upside" down to help put downward pressure
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[17:16:46] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/agsciuxyyufqc94/2016-02-27%2011.47.49.jpg?dl=0
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[17:17:27] <_methods> like dat
[17:20:13] <PetefromTn_> _methods I do that all the time..
[17:20:33] <_methods> ah damn
[17:20:43] <_methods> i thought i came up with something smart for once lol
[17:20:47] <zeeshan|2> lol
[17:21:01] <_methods> FU PetefromTn_
[17:21:02] <PetefromTn_> another good trick I found is to drill the moving jaw and put a large piece of allthread in there to build a stop
[17:21:19] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: ^ that comes standard on good bandsaws
[17:21:19] <zeeshan|2> :)
[17:21:22] <PetefromTn_> or rather something to balance the jaw
[17:21:24] <_methods> yeah i saw that one online
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[17:22:04] <_methods> definitely need some work on the jaws
[17:22:07] <PetefromTn_> another cool thing I found is that my 6" chinese CNC vise replaces the moving jaw quite nicely and allows cutting stuff right up against the blade with a lot more clamping force and precision
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[17:22:34] <_methods> the miters are hard to make sure you have the right angle
[17:22:43] <_methods> i have to come up with soemthing to make them more accurate
[17:23:14] <PetefromTn_> I just use my machinists square against the blade to set the bevel
[17:24:18] <_methods> yeah i did that but it's still is kinda wonky
[17:24:28] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: you got the 7x12?
[17:24:29] <zeeshan|2> right?
[17:24:32] <_methods> i need to scribe the bed or something for the angle
[17:24:39] <_methods> not sure how i'm going to do that yet
[17:24:41] <zeeshan|2> isnt your movable jaw on a boxway?
[17:24:41] <PetefromTn_> yeah I do but I had the 4x6 for years
[17:24:55] <zeeshan|2> ah
[17:25:00] <zeeshan|2> 4x6 was the biggest pos
[17:25:01] <zeeshan|2> lol
[17:25:03] <zeeshan|2> but it got the job done :P
[17:25:17] <PetefromTn_> I got a lot of good use out of it once I modded the piss out of it LOL
[17:25:24] <zeeshan|2> hah
[17:25:28] <zeeshan|2> i just realized
[17:25:32] <zeeshan|2> why is that angle being cut wrong
[17:25:37] <zeeshan|2> =D
[17:26:04] <_methods> hell i just cleaned mine up and did some aligning and it has cut like a champ so far
[17:26:15] <PetefromTn_> all of the stainless tubing I cut for those exhaust manifolds were cut with the CNC vise sitting in the 7x12 bandsaw...worked great
[17:26:17] <zeeshan|2> shouldnt you be cutting it like ^
[17:26:20] <zeeshan|2> instead of |_
[17:26:24] <_methods> the gearbox was full of casting sand
[17:26:39] <zeeshan|2> nice pete
[17:27:01] <PetefromTn_> gonna kind of miss making those it was fun once I got the hang of it
[17:27:24] <_methods> yeah they looked like fun
[17:27:28] <_methods> if you're into pain
[17:27:29] <PetefromTn_> just dropped 150 bucks on new hinges and pulls for the kitchen and they are not even that nice BAAH
[17:27:31] <_methods> hahah
[17:27:34] <zeeshan|2> you aint missing much :P
[17:27:43] <zeeshan|2> youre going to be doing even COOLER stuff in FL!!!
[17:27:50] <PetefromTn_> honestly I found it quite an interesting challenge
[17:27:51] <_methods> i need to replace all my draw slides and hinges with blum stuff
[17:27:59] <_methods> drawer
[17:28:05] <PetefromTn_> I LOVE Blum soft close stuff
[17:28:09] <_methods> yeah
[17:28:09] <PetefromTn_> undermount
[17:28:16] <PetefromTn_> FTW
[17:28:20] <_methods> i'll have to make all new drawers for it though
[17:28:24] <_methods> so one day
[17:28:29] <_methods> got bigger fish to fry first
[17:28:32] <PetefromTn_> drawers are a piece of cake
[17:28:51] <_methods> yeah i had to make them for years
[17:28:53] <PetefromTn_> I enjoy dovetail drawers really
[17:29:06] <_methods> yeah i was the "dovetail" guy
[17:29:17] <PetefromTn_> I also like radiusing the tops etc.
[17:29:23] <_methods> got stuck in drawer land for a long time when i was younger
[17:29:28] <PetefromTn_> I sometimes put scallops in them too
[17:29:39] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: do you know about honing plates
[17:29:41] <PetefromTn_> If all you do is that shit gets old tho
[17:29:42] <zeeshan|2> or sometimes called torque plates
[17:29:46] <_methods> yeah
[17:29:53] <_methods> but people just screw them up all the time
[17:30:05] <_methods> so if you don't screw up you get stuck making them lol
[17:30:10] <PetefromTn_> not sure reallly what is the application
[17:30:12] <MrSunshine> anyone has any idea on how to make a propane burner that gives a very sharp and hot point insted of a big flare? =)
[17:30:16] <zeeshan|2> http://www.teamscream.net/pics/RSTi/engine/torque-plate/2inch-final/IMG_2394.jpg
[17:30:16] <zeeshan|2> those
[17:30:21] <zeeshan|2> how much do you think that plate
[17:30:28] <zeeshan|2> its about 2" - 1.75 thick depending on where you buy it
[17:30:35] <zeeshan|2> and those spacers .. how much do you think they all cost?
[17:31:01] <_methods> people would get the dovetails too tight and break them off or screw up the drawers widths when they were getting the cut lists up
[17:31:05] <PetefromTn_> looks like inch and a half or so
[17:31:08] <zeeshan|2> no
[17:31:09] <zeeshan|2> its 2"
[17:31:09] <zeeshan|2> trust
[17:31:10] <_methods> pretty sad when you can't even make a drawer
[17:31:28] <zeeshan|2> well the price i have is for the 2" one
[17:31:29] <PetefromTn_> _methods LOL
[17:31:31] <zeeshan|2> so how much do you think that costs!!
[17:31:40] <PetefromTn_> to buy or make?
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[17:31:43] <zeeshan|2> to buy
[17:31:49] <_methods> ?
[17:31:56] <PetefromTn_> probably 150-200?
[17:32:00] <zeeshan|2> 350
[17:32:04] <PetefromTn_> nice
[17:32:04] <_methods> oh lol
[17:32:10] <zeeshan|2> the material cost is $35 for that
[17:32:13] <zeeshan|2> from my local place
[17:32:18] <PetefromTn_> are you making some?
[17:32:21] <zeeshan|2> it'd prolly take me an hour to make if it was just one offs
[17:32:27] <zeeshan|2> im making one for my engine
[17:32:34] <PetefromTn_> where does it mount?
[17:32:37] <zeeshan|2> but im sayin , maybe that is something you make
[17:32:40] <zeeshan|2> you can make
[17:32:47] <zeeshan|2> it mounts to the block so whenever you hone or bore the block
[17:32:50] <PetefromTn_> Oh sure looks dirt simple
[17:32:53] <zeeshan|2> you want to simulate the head mounting it
[17:33:22] <PetefromTn_> oh hell Dacia just made me some Sammiches...
[17:33:22] <zeeshan|2> i asked the guy if i could buy his plans to make one for myself
[17:33:30] <zeeshan|2> the way he responded really set me off
[17:33:33] <zeeshan|2> "go fuck yourself"
[17:33:34] <zeeshan|2> lol
[17:33:41] <PetefromTn_> really wow what a dick
[17:33:46] <zeeshan|2> so just cause of that im reverse engineering the plans
[17:33:50] <zeeshan|2> and going to post it in his forum thread
[17:33:53] <zeeshan|2> for everyone to see
[17:33:59] <PetefromTn_> like any idiot could not figure out how to make that
[17:34:00] <zeeshan|2> and sell them for half the price lol
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[17:34:21] <zeeshan|2> its nice to know the bolt pattern
[17:34:23] <PetefromTn_> I got that a couple times from people wanting me to make parts for them
[17:34:30] <zeeshan|2> but man after 35 mins i have a design for it already
[17:34:44] <zeeshan|2> what did you get
[17:34:47] <zeeshan|2> ppl saying "f off?"
[17:34:51] <PetefromTn_> if its automotive related probably can get it online
[17:34:52] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2, what did i miss?
[17:34:52] <zeeshan|2> theres a nice way of saying no
[17:34:56] <zeeshan|2> and a mean way of saying no
[17:35:11] <PetefromTn_> no people wanting me to make parts that some other guy told them to fuck off for :D
[17:35:23] <zeeshan|2> lol
[17:35:30] <zeeshan|2> tom not much :P
[17:35:44] <Tom_itx> what are you reinventing?
[17:35:53] <zeeshan|2> pete im still waiting for the cost to water jet this
[17:35:54] <PetefromTn_> everything
[17:35:58] <zeeshan|2> and just doing the rounding at home
[17:36:12] <zeeshan|2> i really think my waterjet guy can do it much cheaper including material cost
[17:36:51] <PetefromTn_> is that for a subaru?
[17:36:54] <zeeshan|2> yes
[17:37:39] <PetefromTn_> does it just protect the face or something?
[17:37:51] <zeeshan|2> no
[17:37:53] <Sync> yeah zeeshan|2, you can probably measure it out in 20 minutes and then most of the time is spent boring the large holes
[17:38:01] <Sync> but pfft, why round them off?
[17:38:10] <zeeshan|2> when you bolt the head down, you distort the cylinders
[17:38:13] <zeeshan|2> especially on aluminum engines
[17:38:20] <zeeshan|2> so what this plate does is simulate the head
[17:38:31] <zeeshan|2> so you can machine the bores of the block
[17:38:40] <zeeshan|2> and you also use this when you're sizing your piston ring gaps
[17:39:06] <zeeshan|2> to give you an idea, if you measure a circle that is 0.0004" out of round without a torque plate
[17:39:14] <PetefromTn_> Didn't you tell us that car was a piece of shit and you hated it?
[17:39:15] <zeeshan|2> it can go as much as 0.0012 out of round with the torque plate on
[17:39:35] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: subaru is a dog shit company in every single way
[17:39:38] <zeeshan|2> that i've encountered it
[17:39:46] <zeeshan|2> but it is the only company that makes a proper symmetrical AWD system
[17:39:54] <zeeshan|2> and does a damn good job of it
[17:40:01] <zeeshan|2> in a consumer car.
[17:40:21] <zeeshan|2> that is the only thing going for this car, and its worth rebuilding the engine just for that
[17:40:50] <zeeshan|2> if youre buying a subaru for reliability, forget it. if you are buying it for peace of mind that you're protected during warranty, forget it
[17:41:30] <zeeshan|2> anyway, about the torque plate, if you were making it from scratch
[17:41:45] <zeeshan|2> with a 3/4" end mill, 1.5" cutting length
[17:42:04] <zeeshan|2> you could machine that whole plate under 10 mins using a high speed tool path
[17:42:16] <PetefromTn_> probably
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[17:42:44] <Sync> yep
[17:42:58] <Sync> if you have your waterjet guy punch the big holes, for sure
[17:43:04] <zeeshan|2> nah
[17:43:08] <Sync> yeah, just realized
[17:43:11] <Sync> they are not that big
[17:43:16] <zeeshan|2> only 100mm
[17:43:16] <Sync> and don't need to be bored
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[17:43:28] <zeeshan|2> the rounding sync
[17:43:33] <zeeshan|2> is when youre fitting piston rings
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[17:43:42] <zeeshan|2> you'll screw your hands up pretty good on a sharp corner
[17:43:47] <zeeshan|2> and the rings are harder to put in
[17:43:59] <Sync> just run your noga around it a few times
[17:44:48] <__rob> anyone recomend a quality used pillar drill make to lookout for on ebay ?
[17:47:11] <PetefromTn_> whats the reason for the spacers? just so you can use the existing studs?
[17:47:24] <zeeshan|2> ya
[17:47:38] <zeeshan|2> simulate the exact same bolts/studs youre going to use
[17:47:59] <archivist> __rob, depends on use, Pollard, fobco meddings etc
[17:48:11] <Sync> never bothered with that zeeshan|2
[17:48:30] <zeeshan|2> with what
[17:48:46] <Sync> spacers
[17:48:53] <zeeshan|2> ah
[17:49:07] <archivist> __rob, but for general abuse I use a chinese pillar drill
[17:49:21] <PetefromTn_> just take an old head and bore a pair of holes in it :D
[17:49:34] <Sync> that's what I did for some old bmw engine
[17:49:52] <Sync> head had galled cam bearings
[17:49:55] <Sync> so eh
[17:49:58] <Sync> F it
[17:50:11] <zeeshan|2> subaru heads are chicken noodles
[17:50:11] <zeeshan|2> :D
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[17:51:02] <Sync> the best thing since sliced bread are piston cones
[17:51:06] <felixi> ping pong
[17:51:14] <Sync> I hate those band clamp things
[17:51:27] <felixi> should i use cython to wrap a cam c++ plugin interface to python3 or what?
[17:51:41] <zeeshan|2> piston cones?
[17:51:43] <zeeshan|2> never seen em before
[17:51:44] <CaptHindsight> felixi: are you sure you want this channel?
[17:51:54] <felixi> CaptHindsight: nope :D
[17:52:17] <felixi> CaptHindsight: but i thought it is likely someone here would give a quick reply
[17:52:47] <Sync> zeeshan|2: a thing you set on the block that has a slight taper in the bore
[17:52:53] <Sync> so you can put in the pistons
[17:53:58] <CaptHindsight> sounds like a piston ring compressor and putter inner
[17:55:34] <archivist> __rob, this one is the rarer high speed drill http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fredk-pollard-ltd-Pillar-drill-/222034638507
[17:57:13] <archivist> __rob, his speed claim is wrong that is the motor, it is a8k after the belt drive
[17:57:22] <archivist> 18k
[17:57:36] <archivist> depending on pulley fitted
[17:58:12] <archivist> and its cheap
[17:59:04] <archivist> if I had the spare cash I would have that as a spare :)
[18:03:03] <Jymmm> <rimshot>
[18:04:04] <__rob> ahh, nice, 5 days left tho, so anything could happen
[18:04:10] <__rob> really looking for something bigger
[18:04:34] <__rob> floor standing or large bench. I have a proxxon FF230 for small drilling stuff
[18:04:37] <__rob> thats pretty decent
[18:07:06] <archivist> we had one at work then I found one for myself, has to repair the spindle on mine http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=pollard
[18:08:01] <__rob> aren't you generally meant to run slow with drills ?
[18:08:21] <__rob> like in the 1000's of rpm
[18:08:28] <__rob> or less
[18:09:04] <_methods> depends on the drill diameter and work material
[18:09:25] <__rob> ahh for me is usually < 8mm and aluminium
[18:09:49] <__rob> just always found it much nicer for drill operations on the mill with a lower rpm
[18:10:46] <archivist> I have a junk bench drill wicks type
[18:11:14] <archivist> does all my wire brushing work
[18:11:56] <archivist> been unable to kill it
[18:12:01] <__rob> yea, I bought a total junk one before and its really nor even worth using
[18:12:06] <__rob> draper thing
[18:12:25] <PetefromTn_> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/5467240641.html
[18:12:38] <__rob> thought it would do for just putting some holes in something, but the spindle is just floating in cast iron bore
[18:12:43] <__rob> nothing actually machined out
[18:12:47] <__rob> rattles like crazy
[18:13:06] <__rob> had it sitting for ages before I first used it, so it was too late to take it back
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[18:13:21] <__rob> can't believe they could actually sell something like that
[18:13:27] <archivist> most of my rattle came from the belt cover, added something to jam it tight
[18:14:20] <__rob> this thing has a set screw that basically jams the spindle outer against the cast iron head, so you have a choice between not being able to move it vertically, or it rattling like mad
[18:15:21] <archivist> add a thick oil
[18:16:04] <archivist> I dont know a drill which not a tube in the cast bore
[18:16:08] <__rob> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou088n9qcYM
[18:16:12] <__rob> thats the exact bit of junk
[18:16:42] <__rob> i was thinking of pulling a tube in it
[18:18:57] <archivist> basically identical to the wicks drill, mine has 10-15 years of use
[18:19:20] <archivist> recently had to replace the belt
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[18:32:01] <miss0r|shop> Quick question for you guys. I am in the process of milling t-slots in mild steel. And it seems to me, that a standard HSS t-slot mill won't cut it. is this correct?
[18:38:11] <zeeshan|2> why not?
[18:38:43] <zeeshan|2> i love the chicken and egg thing
[18:38:48] <zeeshan|2> when it comes to making a milling table on a milling table
[18:38:49] <zeeshan|2> :D
[18:39:05] <miss0r|shop> indeed. maybe its just a shitty cutter (quite possible).
[18:39:15] <zeeshan|2> are you sure youre not just using a woodruff cutter?
[18:39:16] <zeeshan|2> they do work
[18:39:22] <zeeshan|2> but a proper t-slot cutter has staggered teeth
[18:39:37] <zeeshan|2> lemme see if i can find a pic
[18:39:48] <zeeshan|2> google you are awesome
[18:39:52] <zeeshan|2> http://www.carbideanddiamondtooling.com/assets/images/Whitney/pics2014/SCHC-SEC.jpg
[18:41:29] <miss0r|shop> looks 'somewhat' like what I have
[18:41:36] <zeeshan|2> its prolly dull then
[18:41:40] <zeeshan|2> or el cheapo
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[18:42:09] <miss0r|shop> both I imagine
[18:42:26] <archivist> or chewing into a nasty bit of metal
[18:43:57] <miss0r|shop> hmm.. It CAN cut... I ran the spindle at too high RPM it seems
[18:44:04] <miss0r|shop> !!!POWER!!! isn't always the answer
[18:44:38] <miss0r|shop> unless your name is jeromy..
[18:46:46] <miss0r|shop> it is a shitty cutter it seems... banging it way out there
[18:48:03] <miss0r|shop> barely handeling it at 3mm/min
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[18:54:19] <_methods> you did mill thru the slot with a regular end mill first right?
[18:55:07] <_methods> you're not trying to take both sides of the slot at the same time correct?
[18:55:12] <bman49> hey I have a question if someone can help: I am helping a group get a homemade CNC up and running. It has a large fixed table and uses DC motors w/ encoders and a bosch router. Would it be able to cut on light AL or should I stick to wood/plastic only?
[18:56:24] <miss0r|shop> _methods: both correct
[18:56:50] <miss0r|shop> I am trying to take both sides at once
[18:56:57] <_methods> oh not a good idea
[18:57:25] <miss0r|shop> I can't realy make it work any other way
[18:57:28] <_methods> you'll just have to go slow and take it easy
[18:57:54] <_methods> yeah if you don't have any smaller tslot cutters you're probably screwed
[18:58:11] <miss0r|shop> I have this _one_ :)
[18:58:25] <_methods> yeah just go slow and keep the coolant flushin it
[18:58:27] <_methods> and you should be good
[18:58:59] <miss0r|shop> What I am doing at the moment
[18:59:54] <_methods> it's best to take tslots 1 side at a time
[19:00:21] <miss0r|shop> yeah. I need to buy some new cutters. problem is finding good metric carbide cutters online
[19:00:27] <miss0r|shop> for the right price that is ;)
[19:00:50] <miss0r|shop> usualy right price and good doesn't go hand in hand
[19:00:56] <_methods> yeah
[19:01:03] <_methods> they are mutually exclusive
[19:01:54] <miss0r|shop> but on the bright side, my cly cutter did a 230x95mm surface, with only a 0.002mm runout
[19:02:02] <miss0r|shop> (the table i'm working on here)
[19:02:03] <JT-Shop> yuck, time to clean the coolant tank on the CHNC
[19:02:16] <_methods> interesting what little bit of tig'ng i've been doing has made mig much easier
[19:02:45] <_methods> much easier to identify problems now for some reason
[19:03:20] <miss0r|shop> ;)
[19:03:41] <miss0r|shop> i'm the TIG king around here (if I do say so myself... and I have to, since noone else will)
[19:05:07] <_methods> i'm horrible at both tig and mig
[19:05:25] <miss0r|shop> I wouldn't be surprised if the t-slot cutter is smaller when it comes out the other end... :-/
[19:06:07] <miss0r|shop> _methods: Whats keeping you from being good at it?
[19:09:39] <_methods> i'm white
[19:09:53] <_methods> i ain't got no rythm
[19:10:02] <_methods> and i can't jump
[19:10:06] <_methods> and i have a small penis
[19:10:25] <miss0r|shop> I see the ods stacking against'ya
[19:10:30] <_methods> hahah
[19:10:43] <_methods> i'm sure my wife could add a few more things
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[19:11:05] <miss0r|shop> ^^
[19:13:50] <miss0r|shop> it came out the other end... surface finish = shit
[19:14:45] <_methods> rerun it
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[19:16:16] <miss0r|shop> I enjoy running it the other way. it sounds alot healthyer ;)
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[19:18:53] <_methods> well helps when it's not taking out a full slot lol
[19:19:15] <_methods> a lot less material the 2nd time through
[19:19:33] <helixmachine> bman49: Trying to cut aluminum at high rpm generally requires flood coolant, and a way to contain the resulting "lawn sprinkler". Or (if your machine is rigid enough) you might be able to find one of the new tools (CBN maybe?) that can throw molten aluminum in the ordinary course of business. It can be done, but it might be more trouble than it's worth, depending on your machine.
[19:19:58] <miss0r|shop> picture of what I am doing: http://picpaste.com/20160227_201729-QJ3Gc8Jf.jpg
[19:20:21] <bman49> ok I figured as much helixmachine. Thanks for the response
[19:21:10] <_methods> looks good
[19:21:24] <miss0r|shop> did that surface with my flycutter
[19:21:34] <_methods> you coolant is so clean
[19:21:35] <_methods> lol
[19:21:35] <miss0r|shop> thanks
[19:21:37] <_methods> how does that happen
[19:21:54] <miss0r|shop> I don't cut alot of aluminum... that helps
[19:22:20] <miss0r|shop> also, I have a pretty good filter in there
[19:23:00] <miss0r|shop> built using citchen sponge
[19:23:05] <miss0r|shop> kitchen*
[19:23:20] <_methods> my coolant always looks like harold and kumar went to white castle
[19:23:42] <miss0r|shop> Have you considered not using it to wash the floor with?
[19:23:57] <bman49> helixmachine, It doesn't have spindle speed control just a little thumb wheel on the router it self. If we cranked it down to super low RPM and put compressed air on it you think we could do some slow feeds?
[19:24:50] <miss0r|shop> bman49: you can get a long way spraying WD40 on your workpeice during the cutting
[19:25:35] <bman49> ok so cut the compressed air just keep apply cutting fluid I guess
[19:25:50] <helixmachine> bman49: You can always give it a try and see. Some routers are better at holding an RPM than others. Some bog down at slow settings.
[19:25:55] <miss0r|shop> compressed air is good for removing cutaway material
[19:26:15] <miss0r|shop> you don't want that clogging up the process
[19:26:19] <bman49> right
[19:26:49] <miss0r|shop> in 'ye'olden days, I did alot of aluminum routing using wd40
[19:27:19] <PetefromTn_> jeez man our brand new toilet we just installed does not work correctly...
[19:27:53] <miss0r|shop> PetefromTn_: I've always imagined you can clog up most anything...
[19:28:01] <miss0r|shop> and get away with it blaming the toilet
[19:28:12] <PetefromTn_> thanks man appreciate that
[19:28:20] <miss0r|shop> ;)
[19:28:30] <miss0r|shop> takes one to know one
[19:28:45] <PetefromTn_> it has the new low water usage guts inside it
[19:29:07] <PetefromTn_> and when it flushes the damn flapper does not stay open enough so only about half the water actually goes out
[19:29:15] <miss0r|shop> I can't have one of thoes. my sewage lines suck. they would clog up badly, if I got an "eco" toilet
[19:29:37] <PetefromTn_> well I don't think they actually make NON evo toilets anymore
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[19:29:57] <PetefromTn_> I must say the installation went perfectly
[19:29:58] <_methods> yeah the shit i do to toilets is in violation of the geneva convention
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[19:30:08] <_methods> i don't think eco is gonna cut it
[19:30:10] <PetefromTn_> but it just does not work right
[19:30:50] <_methods> i need a turbo charger on my shit and i keep a machete next to the toilet for when things get real crazy
[19:30:51] <PetefromTn_> The bathroom upstairs had an issue where it would not flush correctly and we got an adjustable height float assembly and a new flapper setup and it works awesome now
[19:30:58] <PetefromTn_> ROFL
[19:30:59] <miss0r|shop> bleh... all this talk of toilet... i'll check out for tonight. have fun guys
[19:31:12] <PetefromTn_> sorry man
[19:31:23] <PetefromTn_> just talking out loud here
[19:31:30] <miss0r|shop> nah. not that it is a problem. but my toilet will think so, thou
[19:31:37] <PetefromTn_> we are almost done fixing up our house for the closing
[19:31:43] <miss0r|shop> see you around
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[19:31:48] <PetefromTn_> seeya
[19:32:01] <PetefromTn_> my cabinet doors look awesome tho!
[19:32:04] <bobo_> define "work right"
[19:32:45] <PetefromTn_> well like I said the flapper closes before the tank fully drains.... its supposed to stay up until it gets mostly empty
[19:33:00] <PetefromTn_> again BRAND NEW one here brand new everything
[19:33:36] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_ I just replaced the backs of all the toilets in my house. Damn things work great now.
[19:33:39] <PetefromTn_> so now once the doors are fully dried I can install the new hinges and pulls and be done with the kitchen finally
[19:33:53] <PetefromTn_> os1r1s I know its nice when things work correctly huh
[19:34:08] <os1r1s> I'm kicking myself a bit for not doing it sooner
[19:34:11] <PetefromTn_> the one upstairs has been a problem for awhile not
[19:34:14] <PetefromTn_> now
[19:34:25] <PetefromTn_> after the new parts it works perfect
[19:34:30] <os1r1s> hehe. It was the same here. It was sticking so bad that it kept popping the chains
[19:34:45] <os1r1s> I told my wife she shits too much
[19:34:48] <os1r1s> :P
[19:34:49] <PetefromTn_> LOL
[19:35:00] <bman49> what sort of machines do yall have? also home kits or store boughts?
[19:35:04] <PetefromTn_> my kids are bad about loading it with tons of TP LOL
[19:35:26] <PetefromTn_> bman49 I have a Cincinatti Arrow 500 VMC and a Standard Modern CNC lathe 14.5x40
[19:36:13] <bman49> wow nice
[19:36:47] <PetefromTn_> they are both retrofits one is semi complete the other is just getting started
[19:38:07] <bman49> hopefully one day I can justify getting something similar
[19:38:13] <bman49> first I need the space to put one lol
[19:38:49] <bman49> also I guess do they require three phase power or can you do a single phase
[19:39:22] <bman49> one going for 6,500 not too crazy expensive I guess
[19:40:57] <PetefromTn_> both of my machines retrofits run entirely on single phase power
[19:41:17] <bman49> thats cool. what all did you have to retrofit/ change out
[19:41:19] <PetefromTn_> my cincinatti is hooked to a 60 amp breaker and despite my best efforts I have yet to pop it ;)
[19:41:23] <bobo_> Pete do you have $6500 in your machines?
[19:41:30] <PetefromTn_> basically everything...
[19:41:41] <bman49> oh so you had to replace the servos as well
[19:41:46] <PetefromTn_> the only thing original to the machine is the spindle motor
[19:41:53] <PetefromTn_> well I did not HAVE to I chose to
[19:42:20] <PetefromTn_> I sold all the original parts and bought brand new servos and motors matched with premade cables
[19:42:32] <_methods> you haven't popped a breaker 'cause you're a pussy
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[19:42:44] <_methods> grab some sack an push that thing
[19:42:45] <_methods> lo
[19:42:46] <_methods> lol
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[19:42:54] <bman49> turn your cnc into a welder
[19:43:08] <PetefromTn_> bobo_ well I paid like $1300 for hte machine and bought like 4-5k worth of componentry for it
[19:43:12] <_methods> if you're not popppin breakers you're not trying
[19:43:20] <PetefromTn_> _methods I know right I AM a puss
[19:43:24] <_methods> hahah
[19:43:47] <PetefromTn_> I did run that 3/4 EM thru the 1" plate full depth full width for a few seconds tho....
[19:43:59] <PetefromTn_> still did not pop the breaker
[19:44:08] <_methods> nice
[19:44:09] <PetefromTn_> just had to buy new shorts
[19:44:12] <_methods> thats a good load
[19:44:19] <_methods> see what i did there
[19:44:25] <PetefromTn_> yeah load har har
[19:44:29] <_methods> hahah
[19:44:56] <PetefromTn_> I bought new hinges and pulls for the doors now gotta install everything once it is dried man
[19:45:19] <PetefromTn_> they came out decent for a bunch of shit ass oak doors that looked like hell before I started...
[19:46:31] <PetefromTn_> I tried to get concealed hinges for them but did not feel like driving to Knoxvegas to my supplier on monday and paying more so I just got some pewter looking visible ones at Home despot
[19:49:26] <PetefromTn_> _methods this conversation reminds me of this.. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/dd/13/d1/dd13d1ddd9596029e7b4c85163e36333.jpg
[19:49:39] <_methods> hahah
[19:49:43] <_methods> shitters full clark
[19:49:52] <PetefromTn_> don't throw me down clark!
[19:50:09] <PetefromTn_> :D
[19:52:39] <_methods> argon tank holder almost done
[19:52:45] <_methods> where'd you put yours on your welder?
[19:53:30] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qa3f1k25y4ro48/2016-02-27%2014.50.57.jpg?dl=0
[19:53:51] <PetefromTn_> I did not have to it came with one..
[19:54:13] <_methods> ah
[19:54:32] <_methods> i put it in front of the fan hopefully it doesn't cause an issue
[19:54:36] <PetefromTn_> that looks pretty good tho
[19:55:05] <_methods> well i wouldn't dare say i know how to weld
[19:55:17] <_methods> but i can stand on it and it doesn't break off lol
[19:55:39] <PetefromTn_> LOL
[19:55:54] <_methods> and i'm fat so that's a good sign
[19:55:59] <PetefromTn_> mine is just basically the base of the machine has a reinforced shelf on the back
[19:56:11] <Sync> it sucks how it is just a training thing, used to be pretty good in Al a year ago, just did a quick job and it sucked
[19:56:16] <PetefromTn_> and the shelf has a little edge with one side open so you can roll the bottle on there
[19:56:45] <PetefromTn_> then at the top of the machine there is another bracket that is sort of a vee with some chains on it to secure the bottle in place
[19:57:00] <os1r1s> Woot. Just got my wife another loom. As if she needs more :P
[19:57:17] <PetefromTn_> is that like a bong? ;)
[19:57:24] <_methods> lol
[19:58:09] <bobo_> Is her name Clair de loom
[19:58:18] <PetefromTn_> is that the habba freight hemmet? I had one of those
[19:58:18] <os1r1s> Not a bong. A loom to weave clothes, towels, etc, etc
[19:58:38] <PetefromTn_> I know man I was just kidding
[19:59:05] <PetefromTn_> but who makes their own clothes anymore hehe I once made a tie dyed shirt...
[19:59:12] <os1r1s> No worries
[19:59:42] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_ That's her hobby. I play with metal and plastic. She plays with fiber.
[19:59:42] <PetefromTn_> and I made my daughter a pocahontas costume from scratch one time....even sewed it myself on my wife's machine
[19:59:45] <_methods> you must be a settler
[19:59:53] <_methods> make me a hat
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[20:01:02] <PetefromTn_> _methods you will probably have that L-tec when you're 90 and it will still work ;)
[20:01:46] <os1r1s> _methods I should get her to make you this one ... http://bit.ly/1QDMjOd
[20:03:57] <PetefromTn_> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6YclqYVs25Y/maxresdefault.jpg :D
[20:04:36] <Sync> heh
[20:04:42] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_ That's pretty awesome
[20:05:10] <_methods> hahhaha
[20:05:17] <_methods> the butthat
[20:05:35] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/3GFJRZn.jpg
[20:05:46] <PetefromTn_> I thought it was the boobhat
[20:05:46] <_methods> yeah that's nutz
[20:05:57] <_methods> i like big butts?
[20:06:46] <bobo_> os1r1s now impress her and CNC the loom
[20:07:16] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_ No. It was an ass hat :P
[20:07:39] <PetefromTn_> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MKIEl5kkxQk/VP7iL4A2izI/AAAAAAAAAvI/62jZBh9E74o/s1600/IMG_3170.JPG
[20:14:04] <bman49> so what CAM software do you guys recommend starting out
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[20:25:28] <_methods> there's not like a beginners cam
[20:25:39] <_methods> it's not really something you just casually get into
[20:27:59] <_methods> it's almost like it's a profession or something
[20:28:05] <bman49> ok, I see some people recommending pycam as good to use with linuxcnc so I will look into that
[20:28:17] <malcom2073> Wolf_: You missed a hell of a show, I made a ton of money, picked up some brushless servo motors too
[20:36:51] <XXCoder> machinist event?
[20:43:55] <zeeshan|2> pete
[20:43:56] <zeeshan|2> holy cow dude
[20:43:58] <zeeshan|2> thats skills!
[20:46:40] <malcom2073> XXCoder: Technoswapmeet it's called
[20:47:05] <malcom2073> bunch of people selling junk
[20:47:13] <XXCoder> cool
[20:47:20] <XXCoder> sometimes junk is gold to other person
[20:47:25] <malcom2073> It is!
[20:47:26] <malcom2073> lol
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[20:51:53] <malcom2073> Got a set of 240v brushless 11.3 Nm stall servo motors on the cheap, debating ebaying them or saving them for later conversions
[20:52:39] <JT-Shop> trying to decide if I'm brave enough to drill a #58 hole 0.550" deep in steel lol
[20:53:16] <Sync> try it
[20:54:07] <JT-Shop> I just drilled 2 #52 holes ok
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[21:00:06] <Roguish> GO FOR IT.....
[21:02:18] <Roguish> anyone looking for motors and stuff on ebay, look at seller 'offerandown'. he's selling out his huge collection of stuff (divorce time)
[21:04:39] <neckro23> including a SPARCstation, apparently
[21:05:24] <Roguish> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blanchard-18-36-Rotary-Grinder-WITH-MAGNETIC-CHUCK-ROTATING-TABLE-/262302972996?hash=item3d1279bc44:g:omYAAOSwDuJWy3pc
[21:05:45] <malcom2073> Nice
[21:09:42] <witnit> mind the shipping........ Shipping:
[21:09:42] <witnit> $122.76 Standard Shipping | See details
[21:09:55] <witnit> that was for a servo motor
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[21:13:10] <JT-Shop> everything is $20
[21:14:32] <PetefromTn_> zeeshan|2 I agree pretty cool stuff
[21:15:06] <Roguish> he has a warehouse full of stuff. all gotta go by mid April. the building is already sold.
[21:20:15] <zeeshan|2> fakin divorces
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[21:21:56] <Roguish> keep an eye on his stuff. you may see a couple of Hardinge lathes come up.
[21:22:31] <malcom2073> Bunch of small servo stuff, and some servo drives
[21:22:40] <malcom2073> 220mm linear actuator too
[21:24:50] <zeeshan|2> too bad those yaskawa drivers are 100w
[21:24:54] <zeeshan|2> thats weak sauce
[21:24:54] <zeeshan|2> :/
[21:25:19] <malcom2073> YeahI saw that heh
[21:26:01] <PetefromTn_> WEAK!!! :D
[21:26:11] <zeeshan|2> haha
[21:27:10] <PetefromTn_> damn I screwed up on two of the doors I am gonna have to put concealed hinges on them because the are a bit too wide for the damn visibles..fortunately they are over the microwave so its okay I think.
[21:28:27] <zeeshan|2> does anyone have access to wire edm?
[21:28:30] <zeeshan|2> edm me something? :D
[21:29:13] <malcom2073> I'll need a 800w servo drive for these servos
[21:29:53] <zeeshan|2> sounds small
[21:29:56] <zeeshan|2> :P
[21:29:57] <neckro23> wire was more of a punk band, not edm ;)
[21:30:09] <zeeshan|2> neckro23: 8)
[21:30:41] <zeeshan|2> コンビネーション・スイッチ （フロント・ワイパアンドつォ、yシャ・スイッチ）
[21:30:45] <zeeshan|2> lovely japanese
[21:30:50] <malcom2073> heh
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[21:53:28] <_methods> freenode :(
[21:54:02] <XXCoder> fun
[21:54:16] <_methods> it is "free" i guess
[21:54:20] <_methods> you get what you pay for
[21:54:35] <XXCoder> no thanks i dont want nodes ;)
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[21:59:07] <JT-Shop-> http://gnipsel.com/images/tungsten-grinder/guides.jpg
[21:59:38] <Tom_itx> cute
[22:01:01] <JT-Shop-> the 0.041" holes 0.550" deep were fun
[22:01:20] <bman49> bleeder screws?
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[22:01:35] <_methods> i just use a drill and belt sander
[22:01:49] <_methods> ah nice that's over 10xd
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[22:02:00] <_methods> what kind of drill was it JT-Shop-
[22:02:14] <Tom_itx> they were made from tungsten?
[22:02:22] <Tom_itx> that's fun stuff to machine
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[22:02:53] <Tom_itx> _methods, you machine tungsten with tungsten carbide or ceramic
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[22:03:17] <_methods> just a belt sander
[22:03:29] <_methods> welder electrodes
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[22:18:19] <PetefromTn_> http://evsmartin.com/ I'm coming there soon baby not long now ;)
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[23:45:35] <_methods> jljlkj
[23:47:03] <Tom_itx> 3 key kbd?
[23:47:44] <Tom_itx> what a day... finally got my mess fixed
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[23:55:09] <_methods> what mess?
[23:56:24] <JT-Shop-> did you recover everything?
[23:56:30] <Tom_itx> was backing up my business files and managed to delete them all
[23:56:36] <Tom_itx> copying over the network
[23:56:53] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop- yes i got it all back but it took a bit of doing
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[23:57:07] <JT-Shop-> cool
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[23:57:18] <Tom_itx> backed up on 3 pc's now
[23:57:22] <JT-Shop-> do you run dos from a usb stick?
[23:57:31] <Tom_itx> no not usually
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[23:57:42] <Tom_itx> i have one old machine that dual boots it
[23:58:08] <JT-Shop-> I need to boot to dos on a machine that has a pci and pcie slot
[23:58:29] <Tom_itx> i have a thumbdrive that boots dos
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[23:59:46] <JT-Shop-> that's what I need