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[00:11:15] <[cube]> nice design:
https://touchofmodern.insnw.net/products/000/386/686/a0fd50a8b908e6ba02973791e2519dd2_large.jpg?1455927565
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[00:33:19] <witnit> IMO when ever possible use a roll/form tap in production work
[00:34:19] <witnit> shavings are hard to get out of the bottom of a blind tapped hole
[00:35:05] <Jymmm> just flood the hole with mercury ;)
[00:35:48] <witnit> wait, I dont understand that reference
[00:36:02] <witnit> haha explain pls
[00:37:08] <Jymmm> it was a joke
[00:37:34] <Tom_itx> hahahahahaha.... i got it!
[00:37:48] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: no you didnt!
[00:37:58] <Tom_itx> :)
[00:38:53] <Crom> pretty knife
[00:39:25] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: You ever work with OLED displays?
[00:40:12] <Tom_itx> not personally but i know a little about them
[00:40:35] <Tom_itx> i do know you must initialize them in the right order
[00:40:45] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Does this look right? Seems "interlaced"
http://imgur.com/yauh4ex
[00:40:45] <Tom_itx> or you could destroy em
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[00:41:13] <Tom_itx> doesn't look that crisp to me
[00:41:15] <zeeshan-lab> :]
[00:41:26] <zeeshan-lab> what does
[00:41:34] <Tom_itx> evil mad scientist you are
[00:41:51] <malcom2073> lol
[00:42:07] <zeeshan-lab> got off work
[00:42:19] <zeeshan-lab> came to lab, have been blowing aluminum up
[00:42:38] <zeeshan-lab> pretty sure all the results i did over the last 6 months
[00:42:41] <zeeshan-lab> are bullshit
[00:42:51] <Tom_itx> heck i knew that...
[00:42:51] <zeeshan-lab> cause im getting random failures with aluminum
[00:42:55] <zeeshan-lab> which shouldnt be happening
[00:43:06] <zeeshan-lab> something wrong with the die or pressure controller
[00:43:16] <witnit> what kind of failure?
[00:43:18] * zeeshan-lab shoulda tried aluminum to begin with
[00:43:24] <zeeshan-lab> bulge test
[00:43:27] <Tom_itx> foil?
[00:43:29] <zeeshan-lab> ya
[00:43:33] <zeeshan-lab> i annealed it
[00:43:34] <zeeshan-lab> 1145
[00:43:37] <Tom_itx> maybe it's tempered from rolling
[00:43:40] <Tom_itx> never mind
[00:43:47] <witnit> tom....lel
[00:43:51] <zeeshan-lab> well i only tested the tempered material so far
[00:43:56] <zeeshan-lab> right now its running the first batch of annealed
[00:44:02] <zeeshan-lab> i hope it cracks at the pole. will make me happy
[00:45:32] <zeeshan-lab> i know something is wrong cause its taking more pressure to blow up the annealed material
[00:45:36] <Tom_itx> must be perfectly flat with no deformations in it
[00:45:39] <Tom_itx> or it will crack there
[00:45:43] <zeeshan-lab> ya
[00:47:04] <Tom_itx> i spent the afternoon forming parts on the screen
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[00:47:41] <Tom_itx> and helping the flunkee that sits beside me
[00:48:03] <witnit> i bought lathe, and im no where near you thank you very much
[00:48:16] <Tom_itx> he's actually starting to get it a bit
[00:48:43] <Tom_itx> nice guy but not very pc savvy
[00:48:46] <witnit> if it werent for people in this room I wouldnt have any cncs at my shop (true story)
[00:48:49] <Tom_itx> he's an ole tool n die maker
[00:49:27] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: It looks like every other line is missing/blank
[00:49:42] <Tom_itx> the lace came unwoven
[00:52:50] <joem_> https://i.imgur.com/1ppffa8.png
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[00:55:36] <zeeshan-lab> tom how old
[00:55:53] <Tom_itx> not sure if he's retired or not
[00:56:23] <Tom_itx> all he did was on manual machines
[00:57:16] <witnit> he can do everything we can, but he can do it in his head
[00:57:25] <witnit> thats what nice about those type
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[00:59:33] <zeeshan-lab> =]
[01:01:30] <Tom_itx> meh, he may have a couple screws loose
[01:04:52] <witnit> You may see his eyes light up if you start saying things like, calculate the rise on that cam and make sure your clean your sine block, before you even think about picking that machinery's handbook up, here's your gauge blocks and trig tables.
[01:05:12] <witnit> should bring him back a few years
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[01:21:29] <witnit> I bought an old clausing lathe today something like 3" bore hydraulic chuck
[01:23:00] <witnit> hopefully its still in descent shape, the guy said it just doesnt have alot of hours on it. but its ancient. Anyone have anything good to say about clausing lathes?
[01:23:33] <CaptHindsight> nice, nothing like an Emco
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[01:25:02] <witnit> hmm, those look a little how do I say..
[01:25:09] <witnit> little
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[01:27:39] <witnit> something similar to this but much older, bigger and dirtier.
http://www.surplusrecord.com/listphotos/885509.jpg
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[01:43:20] <zeeshan> nice witnit
[01:44:59] <Sync> hm, those single cable tig leads seem to be uncommon here
[01:50:53] <yasnak> Okay, so besides sublime with custom config what would be a good cnc program editor for multiple channels?
[01:51:21] <Tom_itx> multiple channels?
[01:53:06] <yasnak> yeah
[01:53:14] <Tom_itx> ahh that is kinda neat
[01:53:27] <yasnak> channel 1, channel 2, channel 3. all control different parts of the machine and use sync/wait codes
[01:53:32] <yasnak> swiss machines
[01:53:53] <Tom_itx> will it edit same name vars automatically?
[01:54:04] <Tom_itx> looking at the site
[01:54:23] <yasnak> what? sublime? its just an editor. has tons of plugins and packages
[01:54:29] <PetefromTn_> Congrats Witnit but I thought you were gonna buy my CNC lathe ;)
[01:54:58] <yasnak> I used to use pujr, but they license per computer $300.00 and everytime i need to reform its another. plus my laptop. annoying.
[01:55:10] <yasnak> And I can't use WinCNC due to lawsuits (yeah, i know)
[01:55:23] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: s/buy/accept donated and delivered cnc/
[01:55:25] <witnit> PetefromTn_: this one cost $200 :)
[01:57:41] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[01:57:50] <PetefromTn_> you cheapass ;)
[01:57:52] <yasnak> http://www.star-m.jp/eng/products/lathe/la_pu.html i need that :( but don't want to pay again
[01:58:13] <Tom_itx> how hard is it to make a custom language file for sublime?
[01:58:16] <witnit> about 8 years ago I stopped in and handed him this BEI absolute encoder (nice resell value on it) told him I couldnt use it myself and I think he remembered me
[01:59:14] <yasnak> http://docs.sublimetext.info/en/latest/extensibility/syntaxdefs.html
[01:59:44] <Tom_itx> and what is the stuff on the right side of the screen?
[01:59:49] <PetefromTn_> I got everything to finish the CNC lathe build here...now all I need is a new house to put it in :D
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[02:17:24] <witnit> yasnak: you mean you need a new license or just the program?
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[02:46:36] <Erant> I received the 1000 line Omron encoder I bought from China for $20. It looks surprisingly legit.
[02:47:03] <Erant> I still think it's fake, but it's optical, and the line disc has "omron" on it.
[02:47:06] <Erant> Sooo. maybe?
[02:47:18] <Erant> We'll see if it actually works as a spindle encoder.
[02:49:55] <zeeshan> tons of omron fakes :P
[02:49:59] <zeeshan> damn chinese!q
[02:50:35] <Tom_itx> damn canucks
[02:53:04] <Erant> zeeshan: Yeah, but putting it on the optical disc? At least they're committed to the fake.
[02:53:20] <Erant> You can't see the optical disc unless you take off the cover and shine a light in.
[02:53:48] <Erant> It's just for a spindle encoder, so as long as it's even a little accurate, I'm cool.
[02:54:11] <Erant> Wonder if it's accurate enough for a rigid drag knife. :)
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[03:01:47] <yasnak> witnit, new license
[03:02:22] <yasnak> I have the program, its on a trial. after 90 it closes up. i used to be able to break those by debugging them and following it to where it hid the key but no longer have time ;/
[03:22:07] <Sync> just use it in a vm
[03:26:11] <yasnak> ;/
[03:26:29] <yasnak> working on this text editor named atom
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[04:13:22] <joem_> trying to control my machine from a beaglebone but not really finding a cape that provides 5v optoisolated high speed control of steppers + a few relays for spindle/flood/etc control + enough inputs to handle RPM, alarms from the motors, etc... something tells me this may not exist, and i shall need discreet relays, but otherwise, any suggestions?
[04:13:45] <joem_> here's this one, but not enough io pins have been made available
http://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/PBX-BB
[04:13:50] <joem_> and no on-board relays
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[05:33:37] <tiwake> pink_vampire: poke
[05:50:33] <miss0r> I'm starting the long hard work of cleaning my new surface grinder today. Anything I should pay particular attention to/pointers? or is it just like cleaning anything else?
[05:58:09] <yasnak> finally leaving shop after 36 shift ;o
[05:58:12] <yasnak> gnite
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[05:59:21] <Crom> new or new to you surface grinder?
[06:00:48] <miss0r> new to me :) definetly not new
[06:00:56] <miss0r> its from '72
[06:01:36] <Crom> there was a guy that just did a series on rehabbing a surface grinder on youtube
[06:02:05] <miss0r> I saw that actualy. Althou, this is hardly worn. so I just need to clean it
[06:02:17] <miss0r> perhaps a lick of paint
[06:02:18] <Crom> I think stan at shadonHK also has a series on fixing up a surface grinder
[06:02:59] <Crom> well, it's a surface grinder so there is grit, and it's probably everywhere...
[06:03:20] <miss0r> indeed. would you reccomend diesel fuel as a solvent?
[06:03:41] <Crom> or kerosene
[06:04:09] <Crom> turtle wax sticker remover is also good for oil varnish
[06:05:07] <miss0r> what is this kerosene? also some oil product?
[06:05:19] <Crom> lamp oil
[06:05:45] <miss0r> ahh.. alright.
[06:05:53] <miss0r> yeah, that ought to do it
[06:06:10] <Crom> diesel is the green or yellow fuel can, kerosene is usually blue
[06:06:30] <Crom> don't get scented lamp oil. get straight kerosene
[06:06:36] <miss0r> yeah, we don't have such a standard around here
[06:06:48] <Crom> miss0r which country?
[06:06:51] <miss0r> strange thing with this very old surface grinder. there are no gips on the linear ways.
[06:06:53] <miss0r> Denmark
[06:07:09] <miss0r> the table is just held in by gravity - it can be lifted right off
[06:09:29] <Crom> kerosene is called petroleum in denmark, naptha is also usuable (rensebenzin)
[06:09:51] <miss0r> yep, google translate told me as m
[06:09:57] <miss0r> uch.
[06:10:10] <miss0r> MY typing skills today are horrific.
[06:10:24] <Crom> I need to get a new keyboard myself
[06:10:45] <miss0r> theres nothing wrong with my keyboard atleast, the failure is all on me
[06:11:15] <miss0r> I have to run. I need to fix some breakfast for the kids before they head out to school. see you a bit later
[06:11:48] <Crom> laterz
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[07:59:05] <Deejay> moin
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[09:58:49] <witnit> mojn!
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[11:43:05] <__rob> anyone know if I can skip to a line in linuxcnc from the MDI input ?
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[11:46:41] <XXCoder> dontr think so but well
[11:46:57] <XXCoder> you should be able to select where to start at
[11:51:34] <archivist> __rob, just cursor up/down to select from previously used lines
[11:52:07] <archivist> not forgetting to edit :)
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[11:59:47] <jthornton> dang it's snowing
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[12:26:18] <witnit> jthornton: all the trees in my FOV are coated in a layer of ice, just formed within the last two hoursO.o
[12:30:59] <jthornton> yuck
[12:31:15] <jthornton> at least is is supposed to rain here after while and melt the snow away
[12:31:17] <Tom_itx> keep it over on your side of the swamp.. mkay?
[12:31:58] <jthornton> ok lol
[12:32:31] <witnit> __rob: Im not real hip on the flexibility of gcode but I believe MDI = Manual Data Input which functions on a per line basis unless you are "calling" a preconfigured M code~ multiple lines of code, For example g0,f100,X1 Z1, TOOLCHANGE etc.
[12:33:31] <Tom_itx> http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true&location=USKS0523
[12:33:35] <Tom_itx> clear sailing here
[12:33:35] <witnit> but if you say broke your cutter on line 400 and want to continue from that spot.... I would expect a different route than trying from MDI mode
[12:36:43] <witnit> I didnt pay much attention to the lathe I got yesterday but after some research it appears to be a clausing colchester cnc-4000L this should be a fun project
[12:38:04] <jthornton> like this?
https://cdn.globalauctionplatform.com/43379cd1-e0ae-4847-b610-a4730149f749/11d5cc6a-e0ba-4224-b853-a47400be855d/540x360.jpg
[12:38:10] <witnit> 3.5" bore O.o never had a bore that size before :) I can now machine bars I can't lift, how exciting =D
[12:38:47] <SpeedEvil> yay
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[12:40:41] <witnit> yeah it looks right, but the one I am getting appeared larger, I think that was just the layer of oil/dust/rust/cobwebs & shavings obscuring my perception though
[12:40:59] <Tom_itx> witnit just wait til those bars start whipping the barfeed off the floor
[12:42:50] <witnit> yeah I think the feeder is going to have to wait on this one, unless I get some production work stuck on it, I dont know if I want to invest much into this one. Lipe would probably be a company that does feeds this size though right?
[12:45:14] <witnit> or am I thinking LNS?
[12:45:59] <witnit> ahh yesh something like this
[12:46:00] <witnit> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lns-Barfeeder-Barfeed-Screw-machine-Cnc-Bar-large-bore-2-5-8-/320869532932?hash=item4ab5508504:m:m2R8AbFnO6BX62zd4JhiWYA
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[13:10:50] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTznIy6i4w
[13:10:56] <_methods> canada-cy
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[14:10:46] <enleth> ttps://hackerspace.pl/~enleth/20160223_212323.mp4 - VT520 receiving code from Heidenhain
[14:11:03] <enleth> whoops,
https://hackerspace.pl/~enleth/20160223_212323.mp4
[14:14:31] <miss0r|shop> nice... but why?
[14:14:45] <witnit> Imnot sure whats happening but everything looks good! =D
[14:19:50] <miss0r|shop> wtf! i bought a second hand jakobsen surface grinder. it came without a manual. I phoned the company for a manual, and they send me a mail, asking me ~150USD for a manual...
[14:19:52] <miss0r|shop> *sigh*
[14:20:31] <witnit> nickels and dimes my friend
[14:20:35] <witnit> what model is it?
[14:20:44] <miss0r|shop> it a SJ-16
[14:21:16] <miss0r|shop> I just can't seem to figure out how the lubrication system works... I will need to take it apart to some extend to get an idea
[14:23:07] <miss0r|shop> I was actualy hoping to find someone with a smaller surface grinder, willing to make a swap - as this is just too big for my shop. *IF* I actualy move it in here, I will have little/no space left.
[14:24:40] <Sync> gg
[14:24:49] <archivist> put it on wheels :)
[14:25:01] <miss0r|shop> archivist: That sounds like a solid plan :D
[14:25:17] <archivist> a rolling plan
[14:25:36] <miss0r|shop> there would be nowhere to roll it!
[14:25:42] <Sync> outside
[14:26:31] <miss0r|shop> I was actualy looking at one with a vertical stone. still for surface grinding. it only took up 1/3 of the space. but the asking price was insane
[14:27:07] <enleth> miss0r|shop: just for the heck of it. wouldn't you do that if you had a vintage 80s control AND a vintage 80s terminal?
[14:27:46] <enleth> besides, that terminal is extremely useful for anything with a serial console
[14:28:33] <miss0r|shop> enleth: Yeah, I guess :) I have a hp2645A you can have, you want to expand your system ;)
[14:28:53] <miss0r|shop> like this one in the picture:
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=240
[14:29:05] <Sync> kek
[14:29:17] <enleth> you mean you want to get rid of it?
[14:29:52] <miss0r|shop> enleth: yep. it has been collecting dust since I rescued it just a sec before it ended in the trash
[14:31:06] <miss0r|shop> I was originally thinking of selling it, making some money (someone must be collecting this stuff, right?). but I never got around to it. And my thought was to throw it away now, but if someone wants it for whatever crazy reason, they can have it
[14:31:48] <enleth> you are in the EU, right?
[14:32:09] <miss0r|shop> Denmark
[14:32:11] <miss0r|shop> so yeah
[14:33:10] <enleth> I'll ask the other guys if we need another terminal and look up the shipping costs then
[14:33:20] <miss0r|shop> alright
[14:34:27] <enleth> fun fact is, my Bridgeport was originally purchased and used in Denmark
[14:34:46] <enleth> there are labels in Danish
[14:35:14] <miss0r|shop> hehe. good luck with that :) where are you from anyway?
[14:35:46] <enleth> Poland, the mill is at the Warsaw Hackerspace
[14:36:20] <miss0r|shop> cool. Any of you guys there want to do a trade of some surface grinders ? (NEVER MIND THE SHIPPING COST!) :)
[14:38:47] <enleth> yeah, I'd happily get one traded for a heartfelt "thank you"
[14:39:08] <enleth> but I don't expect you to jump on that offer
[14:39:49] <miss0r|shop> Honnestly I am open for all suggestions. But best would be if I could find one locally..
[14:45:10] <miss0r|shop> I don't even need a working area this large! my surface grinder can do 800x300mm
[14:45:27] <miss0r|shop> I realy only need something like 300x150-200mm
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[14:58:49] <miss0r|shop> yay! I managed to ajust my TOS FNK 25A mill tables gips to an extend where I only have 0.003mm height difference from one side of the table to the other
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[15:05:18] <witnit> miss0r|shop: this is all I could dig up www.vil.uk.com/vil/images/jakobsen.pdf
[15:05:40] <witnit> not what you need I dont think, but maybe you could use it?
[15:07:23] <miss0r|shop> witnit: Thanks for the efford. but that is for a system born with a DRO system. The surface grinder in question is from '72
[15:09:43] <miss0r|shop> I realy do wonder why they would charge for the manuals. What efford would it take for them to have a downloadable pdf on their site? shouldn't they just be happy that the models they sold in '72 were good enough to still be used?
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[15:10:17] <witnit> Sometimes I ask for a parts or service manual
[15:10:22] <witnit> and you end up with what you need
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[15:15:49] <gregcnc> maybe this will help
http://www.dialog5.com/OtherDownloads/JakobsenSJ12.pdf
[15:16:23] <witnit> gregcnc: wins!
[15:17:08] <miss0r|shop> gregcnc: it is almost the same manual... did I mention I almost didn't pass german class?
[15:17:18] <miss0r|shop> thanks
[15:17:27] <Sync> pfft
[15:17:43] <joem_> i should have taken a mandarin class...
https://i.imgur.com/BhHmYUs.jpg
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[15:18:12] <gregcnc> i just look at the pretty pictures, but can stumble through german to get what I need.
[15:19:02] <Sync> it's actually not that bad
[15:19:45] <Sync> heh
[15:20:02] <Sync> you notice that it was not written by someone who was a native speaker and knew about machine terms
[15:25:05] <enleth> Heidenhain is nice in that regard, they still publish manuals for old controls and the tech support tries to answer questions to the best of their knowledge
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[16:21:01] <_methods> 420 at PetefromTn_ 's house
[16:22:03] <Jymmm> _methods: Nah, he's just been smokin the whiskey barrels
[16:22:13] <_methods> hehe
[16:22:29] <DRGray> Ok, in the stepper config it runs nice, but when i go into the program and tell it to home it turns motor really slowly?
[16:22:30] <DRGray> any ideas
[16:23:10] <DRGray> i see
[16:23:15] <DRGray> home search velocity maybe
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[16:26:12] <Wolf_> I should have stopped at PetefromTn_ ’s house, drove though half the state yesterday
[16:27:21] <PetefromTn_> naah I'm suckin' up the lacka LOL
[16:28:04] <PetefromTn_> trying to get these cabinet doors finished been a pain in the keister..
[16:28:56] <DRGray> homing the z
[16:28:59] <DRGray> keeps going the wrong way
[16:29:08] <Wolf_> turn the machine over
[16:29:24] <_methods> sometimes the best solutions are the simplest
[16:30:09] <Jymmm> _methods: three swings with a 8lb maul seem simple enough
[16:30:12] <Wolf_> or change the homing direction in the config
[16:30:21] <DRGray> yeah
[16:30:23] <DRGray> just looking at at
[16:30:24] <_methods> i like flipping the machine over better
[16:30:25] <DRGray> at that
[16:30:35] <Wolf_> :D
[16:30:39] <DRGray> the home switch would still be in the wrong place though?
[16:30:40] <DRGray> :p
[16:31:12] <_methods> hehe
[16:31:52] <Wolf_> ssi:
http://i.imgur.com/j3uNVIS.jpg
[16:34:03] <DRGray> if i tell it to move z minus on screen its going down but on the cnc its going up
[16:34:04] <DRGray> joy
[16:34:54] <PetefromTn_> hehe fun!
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[16:35:12] <DRGray> yeah
[16:35:15] <DRGray> some sort of fun
[16:36:25] <Wolf_> need to reset the axis setting or swap wires
[16:36:29] <anonimasu> anyone got a clue about lead angle when using the bldc and the Mesa 8i20 drive's
[16:36:38] <anonimasu> or optimization when using them
[16:39:53] <DRGray> weird
[16:40:13] <DRGray> reset teh axis setting? swap wires?
[16:40:44] <Wolf_> software doesn’t know which way is up till you tell it
[16:40:56] <Wolf_> might want to double check the x/y as well
[16:40:56] <DRGray> where do i tell it?
[16:41:04] <DRGray> x and y all seem fine
[16:41:09] <DRGray> i think :-s
[16:41:33] <Wolf_> umm its in the docs somewhere I forget how to do it lol
[16:42:29] <DRGray> lets look at my friend google
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[16:44:33] <DRGray> inverted the pin
[16:44:54] <pink_vampire|3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeGn4hN1Bg
[16:45:47] <DRGray> getting closer to getting this bad boy running!
[16:46:30] <DRGray> when i jog it in interface it moves very slowly
[16:46:43] <DRGray> any ideas
[16:46:44] <DRGray> ?
[16:46:50] <DRGray> or is it just set to slow
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[16:56:26] <DRGray> ok. when I click + on the x axis should it go up or down?
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[17:09:31] <DRGray> i think im getting my directions all muddled
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[17:22:12] <Loetmichel2> *maaan* the 'joys' of rescuing an orld car from the scrapper... dorve home today, left the car... "why does it smell like bruning clutch here?" *running around the car sniffing* "ah, right rear wheel..." *touch the wheel nuts* *PSSSSS* "AAAAAAHH" ooookay, the brakedrim is a hair short of glowing red... the other 3 wheels are cool. seems thats te reason the car had used so much more fuel the
[17:22:12] <Loetmichel2> last few days... :-(
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[17:24:14] <Loetmichel2> drove, burning, brakedrum
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[17:42:57] <jthornton> ha I finally cloned the hard drive as an image to the nas
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[17:44:35] <jdh> dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/my_l33_nas/d.img ?
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[17:44:47] <Deejay> hehe, thought the same (dd is your friend ^^)
[17:45:42] <jthornton> I'm using clonezilla so I don't have to copy empty blocks
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[17:51:29] <Cromaglious_> dd if=/dev/sda of=/d.img bs=1M I like using 1meg block size for a faster copy
[17:51:36] <maxcnc> hi all ;-)
[17:51:57] <maxcnc> is 4M not faster then 1m
[17:51:58] <Cromaglious_> yo max
[17:52:11] <Cromaglious_> not much
[17:52:40] <maxcnc> i discovered at rasperry image coopieng that 4m is about 20% faster
[17:53:03] <Cromaglious_> 1M bs would be about 19% fast then
[17:53:30] <Cromaglious_> anything is faster than sector size blocks
[17:54:55] <maxcnc> on 2GB only 10seconds different
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[17:57:54] <Cromaglious_> between 1M and 4M block size?
[17:58:05] <maxcnc> yes
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[18:08:57] <CaptHindsight> how long does Fedex ground take from the west cost to the east coat? It seems to take 5 days from Ca to the midwest.
[18:09:15] <CaptHindsight> 5 business days
[18:09:31] <Cromaglious_> depends on how many terminals it has to go through
[18:11:19] <Cromaglious_> just truck time is 4days coast to coast, plus terminal time add a day for each terminal.My hitch from IN to CA took 4days from company to terminal nearest me.
[18:12:12] <Cromaglious_> then they lost it for a week
[18:13:02] <CaptHindsight> I only use ground when it's a 1 day from either UPS or Fedex now
[18:14:07] <CaptHindsight> I wish more suppliers would offer USPS Priority
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[18:29:47] <MrSunshine> hmm, i dont get these laser collimators .. i guess im missing something but they have a target that the laser shines throught, then there is some rings etc .. if its straight is the laser supposed to shine straight back into the laser hole ?
[18:31:40] <archivist> which are you looking at
[18:31:48] <Jymmm> MrSunshine: As a rule, collimators "concentrate" the raw beam into a fine point.
[18:32:12] <MrSunshine> archivist:
http://www.firstlightoptics.com/hotech-collimation-tools/hotech-sca-laser-collimator.html something like that is what i find
[18:32:23] <archivist> lots of funky optical stuff about
[18:36:13] <archivist> I do believe that is looking at the return but is specially made for telescope alignment
[18:38:00] <MrSunshine> archivist: ah ok .. but the thing you talked about also used a mirror ... where does the mirror shoot the beam? =)
[18:38:21] <archivist> back at the source
[18:38:40] <archivist> read up about autocollimator use
[18:40:20] <archivist> I am just thinking for your machine you could get away with a laser pointer as a poor mans version
[18:40:52] <MrSunshine> hehe yeah =)
[18:41:05] <MrSunshine> im guessing the precision wont be great but the machine isnt great either =)
[18:41:31] <archivist> exactly and the real thing would be too accurate
[18:41:44] <MrSunshine> i wish there was some kind of video if it .. i have realy hard learning from reading :(
[18:42:15] <archivist> I just get hold of second hand gear and play
[18:43:20] <archivist> HP made some laser tool for flatness and straightness measuring
[18:44:16] <archivist> I have one part of the kit, no laser or interferometer and readout
[18:45:15] <archivist> the straightness adapter is just a brick with a beam splitter
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[18:47:06] <CaptHindsight> use a cheap laser pointer
[18:47:16] <archivist> MrSunshine, some light reading
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/mirror/HP/interferometer/
[18:48:19] <Jymmm> Auto PID Tuning
http://brettbeauregard.com/blog/2012/01/arduino-pid-autotune-library/
[18:48:35] <archivist> I have tried a laser pointer with an educational interferometer and I did get a proper pattern
[18:50:11] <archivist> eg this setup but cheaper
http://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~lecturedemonstrations/Composer/Pages/84.30.html
[18:50:38] <CaptHindsight> http://www.instructables.com/id/Desktop-Michelson-Morely-Interferometer/
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[18:55:45] <maxcnc> Gn8
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[18:55:50] <MrSunshine> found a small pen laserpointer atleast =)
[18:55:59] <MrSunshine> and it was a bit adjustable so i could get a realy sharp point
[18:56:11] <MrSunshine> looking straight into it it looked sharp atleast .. but now my eye hurts a bit
[19:00:11] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitutoyo-Digital-Indicator-Model-IDU-25E-0-005-to-1-0-01-to-25mm/281879432683 not bad for $25, they seem to go for $60 and up
[19:02:56] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitutoyo-543-683b-Digital-Indicator-/172109059509 are these made in China now?
[19:03:02] <MrSunshine> sure its not a mitutoy then?
[19:03:23] <CaptHindsight> nope made in Japan
[19:03:26] <archivist> silly seller missed a 0 :)
[19:03:45] <archivist> .0005 "
[19:06:33] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/0005-MITUTOYO-DIGITAL-INDICATOR-DIGIMATIC-MACHINIST-TOOL-/172109169796
[19:06:40] <CaptHindsight> older version
[19:07:31] <MrSunshine> thanks for the info again guys =) you are an amzing source of inspiration and knowledge =)
[19:07:41] <MrSunshine> gonna see what i can figure out of this tomorrow =)
[19:08:18] <MrSunshine> the biggest problem i can think of is how to hold the mirror straight and solid on a V rail
[19:08:50] <archivist> CaptHindsight,
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_10_12_cnc_mitutoyo_dti/IMG_1673.JPG nice type to get
[19:09:32] <archivist> MrSunshine, it rides on the axis
[19:10:11] <MrSunshine> archivist: yeah sure but then i got more error variables (the rail on the other side could be pushing the gantry one way or th eother also)
[19:10:48] <archivist> lots of error terms :)
[19:11:26] <MrSunshine> yeah .. thats why i would like to check the rail by itself =)
[19:11:52] <MrSunshine> and my grinding might not be exactly 45 degrees either .. hehe :P
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[19:45:38] <archivist> make your own optical square
http://www.edmundoptics.co.uk/optics/prisms/penta-prisms/uv-fused-silica-penta-prisms/2889/
[19:45:58] <archivist> 1 arc second £60
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[20:15:50] <CaptHindsight> archivist: if you heat the corner of that part with a heat gun does the indicator move?
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[21:00:04] <_methods> http://www.troyhunt.com/2016/02/controlling-vehicle-features-of-nissan.html
[21:00:12] <_methods> doh
[21:12:39] <XXCoder> jeez
[21:12:48] <XXCoder> security should be the first thing before anything else
[21:15:35] <_methods> comments are hilarious
[21:15:42] <_methods> On the bright side, the service is so unreliable that it doesn't usually work anyway for legitimate users.
[21:23:58] <XXCoder> still sucks though
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[21:40:00] <XXCoder> _methods: oh btw
[21:40:22] <XXCoder> weird thing, I just found out my van burnt its left headlight connector
[21:40:29] <XXCoder> it may be short somewhere
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[21:41:27] <XXCoder> I like troy hunt blog site
[21:46:47] <MrSunshine> https://www.lasercomponents.com/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_LT-VA-5_66facafd40.jpg this is how i was thinking of the laser alignment .. without mirrors
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[21:48:36] <XXCoder> LOL _methods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKjyMKj3n4
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[21:50:06] <Sync> archivist: that's actually suprisingly affordable
[21:51:01] <XXCoder> glad guy added text comments or it'd be boring video
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[21:53:10] <XXCoder> access starts at 22:40 something
[21:55:51] <Jymmm> When having a bad day, and all you want to do is fix the darn thing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM8aBESf8EI
[21:56:25] <XXCoder> loyality key OL
[21:57:51] <XXCoder> $160 annually - one time payment heh scammer is funny
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[22:01:37] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:15:21] <pink_vampire|3> hi
[22:15:29] <pink_vampire|3> hi XXCoder
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[22:25:01] <gregcnc> lol the bird
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[23:09:30] <Cromaglious_> hmmm fbx extension, any convertion to dxf or stl?
[23:19:29] <joem_> anybody consider spraying their flood tray with superhydrophobic coatings?
[23:19:38] <joem_> neverwet, everdry, etc
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