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[00:20:47] <Jymmm> Frank__: you can use it for weight lifting =)
[00:25:52] <Frank__> lol, its out of my league!
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[00:26:29] <XXCoder> just hulk up ;)
[00:26:50] <XXCoder> world would be different if anyone could hulk up
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[00:27:50] <XXCoder> and suepr steachy pants would be very popular.
[00:28:53] <Frank__> what weight do you think would 1kw servomotor (panasonic) move at around 1000 ipm? imposible question right? haha
[00:31:58] <Sync> depends on a lot of variables
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[00:42:11] <Frank__> okey can i try a different question? :D coupling to ballscew, timing belts or spring coupler, idk if its called like that
[00:45:38] <jdh> do you need gearing, or would the motor be in an awkward position at the end of the screw?
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[00:46:45] <pcw_home> A 1k servomotor can move several tons at 1000 IPM, jut not accelerate very fast
[00:47:00] <pcw_home> s/jut/just/
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[00:50:12] <Frank__> OMG
[00:50:15] <Frank__> several tons?
[00:50:35] <Frank__> i think i have overpowered motors for my use
[00:50:58] <Ralith> you may be misunderstanding the relationships between torque, acceleration, velocity, and gearing
[00:51:05] <Frank__> actually, i have more rotor inertia than load inertia
[00:51:36] <Ralith> most things can move several tons
[00:52:22] <Frank__> well yeah, i should have clarifyed, its use is for a cnc router, so u can expect vels of 1000ipm etc etc moving 100kg each motor
[00:52:28] <radicaldev> My truck weighs several tons. I can move it =)
[00:52:45] <Frank__> with like the pedal? haha
[00:53:20] <radicaldev> Under normal circumstances. I've had to push it a few times, though.
[00:53:47] <XXCoder> lol http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Strip-Fantasia-650-finalenglish.jpg
[00:54:50] <radicaldev> XXCoder: Happens to the best of us.
[00:55:27] <witnit> Frank__: gearing, friction, inertia, also acceleration/deceleration requirements all play big factors on how much motor you really need
[00:55:46] <pcw_home> Yeah, you should make sure that you have torque for the peak cutting load at peak acceleration + some amount of headroom
[00:56:20] <Frank__> im in trouble if i over sized the motors?
[00:56:35] <Frank__> i should have gone with steppers all the way T_T way cheaper
[00:56:49] <witnit> depends on if the motors can destroy your hardware under unusual runaway situations
[00:57:03] <pcw_home> steppers max out around 200W
[00:57:13] <Frank__> this is 5x then
[00:57:22] <Frank__> 1kw 3.2nm 3000rpm panasonic servos
[00:58:14] <Frank__> still have to check my speed requirement thou
[00:58:22] <witnit> Im no expert on steppers but, i dont really think they have any respectable advantages over servo systems, other than torque at low speed and simplicity
[00:58:46] <Frank__> aaaaaand price
[00:58:59] <malcom2073> Price and simplicity
[00:59:19] <malcom2073> The disadvantages outweigh that if you're doing production or high risk machining
[00:59:21] <pcw_home> for small things they are much simpler (and being 50 poles are natively slow speed devices)
[01:00:03] <Frank__> why do you mean production work as disadvantage for steppers? durability? speed?
[01:00:08] <Frank__> both ? =D
[01:00:19] <malcom2073> Frank__: If you skip a step, you won't know until you're done and measure the part
[01:00:27] <Frank__> i intend to do production wood routing
[01:00:36] <witnit> providing you are putting together some large order of units using multiple motors, most people can afford to move up to a servo system and it just not be a big deal
[01:00:37] <Frank__> i see
[01:00:49] <witnit> not to mention servo systems are VERY flexible
[01:01:02] <Frank__> im afraid of blowing them up
[01:01:06] <witnit> fear not
[01:01:11] <Frank__> my friend
[01:01:13] <Frank__> hahaha
[01:01:13] <witnit> :)
[01:01:37] <witnit> just spend 100 on ebay and play with an encoder, motor and amp
[01:01:40] <malcom2073> Yeah, I replaced the servos on my mill with steppers because it was cheaper than buying new drivers, and easier than figuring out the tuning/etc
[01:01:51] <malcom2073> But I'm doing slow stuff, it's limited to 30ipm
[01:01:54] <Frank__> i already have the 4 servos
[01:02:04] <Frank__> even the z axis has 1kw panasonic
[01:02:09] <witnit> oh, I should read up and see what you have said
[01:02:13] <Frank__> yeah first build guys
[01:02:25] <Frank__> im going with mesa cards
[01:02:51] <malcom2073> Heh, nah,if you've already got the motors you're golden
[01:03:06] <Frank__> red botton to press i hope not
[01:03:50] <witnit> IMO drill some holes in a sturdy board and mount your motors all to it so you can do testing without them flopping around on the table
[01:03:52] <Frank__> i see
[01:04:06] <Frank__> this router has a max of 2.4mts on the long axis
[01:04:38] <witnit> just rough tune them on the table until you get it close and learn a thing or two, then move them to your build and retune them to accomodate the load they will be moving.
[01:04:44] <Frank__> good advice, ill keep that in mind
[01:04:48] <witnit> you will make it through it
[01:05:15] <witnit> what kind of feedback do you have?
[01:05:22] <Frank__> u mean encoder?
[01:05:27] <witnit> yeah
[01:05:47] <witnit> sometimes motors will have other types of feedback
[01:05:51] <witnit> like resolvers
[01:06:03] <witnit> encoders are very easy
[01:06:10] <Frank__> 2500p/r(resolution: 10,000) 5-wire serial incremental encoder
[01:06:13] <Frank__> copy pastee :D
[01:06:59] <witnit> do you know which cards you will get?
[01:07:25] <Frank__> i was thinking 5i25/6i25 and 7i85s
[01:07:57] <Frank__> i still havent finished assembly and painting
[01:08:19] <Frank__> i have to figure out z axis, build it, maybe at the same time setting up electronics
[01:10:14] <witnit> you already have your amps?
[01:10:24] <witnit> drives^
[01:10:45] <Frank__> yep, bundle with servos
[01:14:25] <Frank__> i should get going! thanks for the talk
[01:14:29] <witnit> nice I think you are going to be very pleased with the smooth quietness and speed, just be careful a runaway servo motor once its already attached to a hardware (often caused by accidently flopping a pair of wires like when replacing an encoder)
[01:14:56] <Frank__> ohh i have read about that
[01:15:06] <witnit> pinch points are bad keep your fingers outta tyhem :PO
[01:15:20] <Frank__> the error that cannot catch up and ends up flipping the servo or something alike
[01:15:20] <witnit> GL!
[01:15:41] <witnit> BIG RED BUTTON install it
[01:15:42] <witnit> :)
[01:15:48] <Frank__> thanks! ill be having some news these days
[01:15:56] <Frank__> hahahah
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[01:29:50] <witnit> anyone have any experience with load cells? and possibly graphing the data
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[02:35:14] <radicaldev> What are the main differences between the DMV8825s and Gecko 250s?
[02:41:13] <malcom2073> Different current ratings, midrange resonance cancellation, microstep configuration
[02:42:39] <malcom2073> The 250 is significantly quieter in stepping (cleaner signal)
[02:43:01] <malcom2073> Pretty much everything
[02:44:37] <radicaldev> The 8825 allegedly can do 1/32 steps, I'm not sure how useful a metric that is when evaluating a driver, but the big thing to me is: I can get 5 8825s for 10 dollars. Do I really NEED some serious drivers like the Gecko line?
[02:45:22] <os1r1s> radicaldev The geckos also change their stepping rate on the fly
[02:45:28] <os1r1s> radicaldev Which the 8825s will not
[02:45:45] <malcom2073> Depends entirely on what you're doing. If you're running a 3d printer with nema17's, the 8825 is great. If you're running a small router with nema23's, the 250 is great
[02:46:22] <malcom2073> The 8825's don't do well with high speed screw systems due to the lack of anti-resonance, but they do fine with belted systems and slower screw based machines
[02:47:11] <radicaldev> Interesting... but a lot of drivers out there don't have midband resonance compensation
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[02:47:50] <os1r1s> The 8825s are more limited on current too
[02:48:11] <os1r1s> They don't have the protections either
[02:48:30] <malcom2073> Yes, a lot of cheap stuff is cheap :P
[02:48:48] <malcom2073> But again, depends on what you're doing. If you don't need anti-resonance, you don't need it
[02:49:14] <radicaldev> That seems crazy, to change the stepping rate while stepping... How does that work out to an accurate part?
[02:49:33] <os1r1s> radicaldev the driver takes care of it
[02:50:09] <os1r1s> So it sends full steps to the motor when needing to move fast. It sends 1/10 stepping when its moving slow
[02:50:17] <os1r1s> Makes for the best of both worlds
[02:50:27] <radicaldev> I see.
[02:50:28] <os1r1s> The computer just sends the 1/10 stepping
[02:50:36] <os1r1s> The driver does the rest
[02:51:05] <radicaldev> So essentially, with the Gecko drivers you can go faster, more quietly, and drive bigger motors
[02:51:15] <os1r1s> radicaldev Correct
[02:51:19] <radicaldev> with less risk of destroying the driver
[02:51:24] <os1r1s> That too
[02:52:05] <os1r1s> For 4 axis, a g540 makes a lot of sense
[02:52:54] <os1r1s> It includes the breakout board + an isolated VFD
[02:53:58] <radicaldev> I intend to get a G540 before I have 4 axis capabilities, but I've got to wait until after the IRS gets done with me. Company I work for still hasn't sent my 1099 =/
[02:54:59] <radicaldev> for now, I've got homemade drivers and some 8825s on the way.
[02:55:40] <os1r1s> radicaldev What kind of machine?
[02:56:31] radicaldev is now known as jfindley
[02:56:41] <jfindley> the one you sold me
[02:57:12] <os1r1s> jfindley haha
[02:57:18] <os1r1s> You crack me up
[02:57:26] <jfindley> dunno why the other nick was used
[03:00:32] <jfindley> Anyway, I've got circuit board drilling down, but I want to play around with plastic, metal, and wood now before I buy a proper CNC machine.
[03:00:45] <jfindley> proper being very large, and fairly expensive.
[03:00:59] <os1r1s> jfindley So circuits have gone well for you?
[03:04:14] <jfindley> yes and no, I successfully routed some boards and that went well, but it just doesn't compare to the printer/paper/board/ferric chloride/water method.
[03:04:40] <jfindley> The long part of that process was drilling the holes, which the CNC machine excelled at.
[03:04:55] <os1r1s> jfindley Thats weird. I've gotten ones on that machine to SMD
[03:05:30] <jfindley> It's not that it's not capable, it just can't do them that fast.
[03:06:13] <os1r1s> It should be faster than ferric chloride
[03:06:22] <os1r1s> Much faster
[03:08:00] <jfindley> With the TinyG?
[03:08:03] <os1r1s> jfindley Yes
[03:08:26] <os1r1s> A 2x2 board with a reasonable number of SMD components should take less than 20 minutes
[03:08:55] <jfindley> Ok, maybe our process there differs.
[03:09:31] <os1r1s> Possibly. I did 7 arduino pro type boards in about 4 hours.
[03:09:42] <os1r1s> And I was pretty lax about starting them up
[03:10:22] <os1r1s> For that size mill, tinyg is perfectly capable
[03:14:38] <jfindley> What software were you using with the TinyG?
[03:15:46] <os1r1s> I'd build the circuit with eagle. Then I would use eagle2cad (If memory serves). Then I would send it with one of the serial programs
[03:17:44] <jfindley> Hmm. For circuit making, I use eagle, then print the layout onto dextrin coated 8 1/2x11 paper, stick that onto copper clad board (1/2 oz) and run it through a laminator, then soak it in water for about a minute, remove, dry, and sponge with ferric chloride.
[03:18:12] <os1r1s> jfindley pcb2gcode
[03:18:49] <os1r1s> That was the cam part of the program
[03:18:49] <jfindley> The etching part for a sheet that size takes about 15 minutes or so, then it's off to the shears to cut out the individual circuits, then they're fed several at a time to the CNC machine. I wrote my own controller in C++ because I didn't like what was available.
[03:19:06] <jfindley> yeah, I use pcb2gcode too, for the drill layer.
[03:19:18] <os1r1s> I use that for the etching and milling
[03:19:22] <os1r1s> and drilling
[03:19:59] <os1r1s> Its just a lot easier to hit go. Change bits 3 times. And then its complete
[03:20:29] <jfindley> The best one I used was some cloud based thing, but I like having everything in house.
[03:21:27] <jfindley> http://chilipeppr.com/
[03:22:41] <jfindley> os1r1s: How were you fixing the boards to the CNC machine?
[03:22:52] <os1r1s> jfindley double sided tape
[03:22:59] <os1r1s> carpet tape is easiest
[03:23:06] <jfindley> Oh yeah, you mentioned that. Carpet tape =)
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[03:23:35] <os1r1s> jfindley http://os1r1s.com/?p=239
[03:23:36] <jfindley> I 3D printed some fixtures that did pretty well.
[03:23:56] <os1r1s> That was my first attempt before I tuned it a bit
[03:24:15] <os1r1s> jfindley You should be etching at about 6 times that speed
[03:25:03] <os1r1s> jfindley Look at etching is the first step
[03:25:05] <os1r1s> That video
[03:25:38] <os1r1s> jfindley If your 3d printed fixtures only clip the sides, you could have issues.
[03:26:24] <jfindley> os1r1s: Definitely, for etching. Drilling works out pretty well, though.
[03:27:31] <os1r1s> jfindley On that page you can see my vacuum fixture. That works even better
[03:28:13] <jfindley> os1r1s: Yep! It's something I want to mess around with one of these days.
[03:28:53] <jfindley> For now, i want to play with LinuxCNC and get used to general purpose milling
[03:29:59] <os1r1s> jfindley This gets you chilipeppr locally https://github.com/synthetos/TinyG/wiki/Chilipeppr
[03:30:46] <os1r1s> fwiw
[03:31:30] <jfindley> Those guys did a good job. I wrote my thing in around 20 hours or so.
[03:31:46] <jfindley> Not as fancy, but did exactly what I wanted =)
[03:33:16] <jfindley> Do you think the 8825s will work for this guy?
[03:33:30] <os1r1s> jfindley Yes. They should work ok for that
[03:34:25] <jfindley> If they can just hold me over til May I'll be satisfied with the $10 in amazon reward points I spent on them =)
[03:35:43] <os1r1s> jfindley I am in the process of CNCing a much larger mill :)
[03:35:50] <os1r1s> Can't wait to be done.
[03:35:57] <os1r1s> The time its taking is driving me crazy
[03:36:03] <zeeshan|2> which mill
[03:36:17] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 A PM25-MV. Nothing like yours :P
[03:36:40] <zeeshan|2> box column
[03:36:40] <zeeshan|2> nice
[03:36:57] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 Doing servos on it too. Direct feedback to linuxcnc
[03:37:03] <zeeshan|2> nice :D
[03:37:20] <os1r1s> I'm trying to figure out if I have to gear them up/down
[03:37:30] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 Or I should say I'm hoping I don't need to
[03:37:51] <zeeshan|2> how much torque
[03:38:02] <jfindley> os1r1s: Are you taking video of this process?
[03:38:07] <os1r1s> jfindley No
[03:38:14] <jfindley> =(
[03:38:34] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 The x/y have peak 350 oz/in but constant 50 oz/in
[03:38:48] <zeeshan|2> seems a bit small for a mill that size
[03:39:00] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 And it will run .5 TPI ballscrews
[03:39:38] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 If I gear them up, I'll have plenty of torque
[03:39:44] <jfindley> os1r1s: What materials will you be working on?
[03:39:48] <os1r1s> I was just hoping I didn't need to
[03:39:51] <zeeshan|2> but then you go slower :{
[03:39:51] <os1r1s> jfindley Mostly 6061
[03:40:32] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 If I can cut with it direct drive just to make some adapters, I will be happy.
[03:41:45] <zeeshan|2> you will be able to
[03:42:03] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 What do you think the max feed would be?
[03:42:05] <zeeshan|2> with the right combo of cutter size and depth of cut :D
[03:42:09] <os1r1s> hehe
[03:42:24] <zeeshan|2> i feel like if youre running a 1/4" cutter
[03:42:38] <zeeshan|2> you could prolly do 0.050 doc at 10 ipm easily
[03:43:04] <zeeshan|2> gotta test to see its capability :P
[03:43:11] <os1r1s> haha
[03:43:31] <os1r1s> If I do 8:1 gearing, it should do well
[03:44:31] <jfindley> zeeshan|2: That seems really slow.
[03:44:32] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 That would still mean 250 IPM rapids, but 400 oz/in constant torque
[03:44:54] <os1r1s> jfindley That isn't that slow
[03:45:09] <zeeshan|2> we could really work out the math
[03:45:15] <zeeshan|2> to get a beter estimate
[03:45:24] <zeeshan|2> what diameter lead screw?
[03:45:43] <os1r1s> 16mm
[03:46:08] <zeeshan|2> ball screw?
[03:46:24] <os1r1s> Yep. 5mm pitch
[03:46:55] <zeeshan|2> so its not .5 pitch screws :P
[03:47:04] <zeeshan|2> .197
[03:47:19] <zeeshan|2> 5 TPI
[03:47:22] <os1r1s> .5 TPI
[03:47:26] <jfindley> os1r1s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4AJjJb4A8 That's pretty close to this, right?
[03:47:33] <zeeshan|2> how are you getting .5TPI
[03:47:43] <os1r1s> It uses the RM-16 Metric C7 grade ball screws. 5mm Pitch (.508 TPI)
[03:47:49] <zeeshan|2> 5/25.4 = pitch in inches , 1/(5/24.4) = 5 tpi
[03:47:51] <os1r1s> ^ from the listing
[03:48:01] <zeeshan|2> either im tired as hell
[03:48:04] <zeeshan|2> or theyre doing the math wrong
[03:48:15] <zeeshan|2> math dun lie!
[03:49:18] <zeeshan|2> T = [F*D_p/2] * [ (L+pi*f*D_p) / (pi*D_p - fL)
[03:49:52] <zeeshan|2> f ~ 0.01 for a ball screw
[03:50:17] <os1r1s> Looking
[03:50:30] <os1r1s> Assume 5mm pitch for our discussion :) I know that part is right
[03:53:27] <os1r1s> Your math looks right. It seems like 5 TPI
[03:53:50] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 ^
[03:54:21] <zeeshan|2> okay using the formula
[03:54:27] <PetefromTn_> Oh hell someone is questioning Zeeshan's maths...;)
[03:54:30] <zeeshan|2> you can say T = 0.82*F
[03:54:45] <zeeshan|2> convert the oz-in to a non retarded unit :P
[03:55:23] <os1r1s> jfindley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cbaxVRqyjc
[03:55:30] <zeeshan|2> assuming it can put at 350 oz-in , thats 21.875lb-in
[03:55:56] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 But do you focus on constant or peak torque when it comes to a servo?
[03:56:16] <zeeshan|2> do you have a chart
[03:56:20] <zeeshan|2> really the chart will tell
[03:56:23] <zeeshan|2> peak will give a good estimate
[03:56:30] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/wXu4cmj ROFL
[03:56:50] <zeeshan|2> using peak, your motors can provide a cuting force in the axis direcvtion
[03:56:53] <zeeshan|2> of 27lb approx
[03:57:34] <os1r1s> And that include the 5 TPI screws in the calc?
[03:57:38] <zeeshan|2> yea
[03:57:51] <os1r1s> That doesn't seem like much
[03:58:00] <os1r1s> Though I'm not sure how much you need on a mill that size
[03:58:08] <zeeshan|2> more than that
[03:58:14] <zeeshan|2> if youre cutting steel
[03:58:34] <os1r1s> So if I gear it at 8:1. That would give me 216
[03:59:04] <zeeshan|2> yea but youre gonna go so slow
[03:59:05] <zeeshan|2> for rapids
[03:59:51] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 Hmm, the wrong TPI strikes again. I had calced it would do 250 IPM
[03:59:57] <os1r1s> With 8:1
[04:00:02] <zeeshan|2> how
[04:00:03] <os1r1s> But that would be off
[04:00:17] <zeeshan|2> whats the max rpm of the motor?
[04:00:18] <zeeshan|2> 2000?
[04:00:20] <os1r1s> 4000 rpm motors.
[04:00:39] <os1r1s> Sorry, 4700
[04:01:46] <zeeshan|2> so 940 ipm at 4700 rpm
[04:01:58] <zeeshan|2> 117 ipm at 1/8
[04:02:03] <zeeshan|2> thats still prettyu good!
[04:02:11] <os1r1s> That would be about 78 turns per second. Or 15.6 IPS. or 936 IPM ungeared. Gearing it would get me to 117 IPM
[04:04:07] <zeeshan|2> im workin out the milling math
[04:04:21] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 And I greatly appreciate your help.
[04:04:30] <zeeshan|2> if youre running a 1/4" cutter, assuming youre slotting
[04:04:36] <zeeshan|2> you can theoretically do a 0.25 " doc
[04:04:47] <zeeshan|2> so wayyyyyy more than i was thjinking
[04:04:53] <os1r1s> With 27 lbs?
[04:04:55] <zeeshan|2> you prolly wanna take half that
[04:04:59] <zeeshan|2> to give yourself a buffer
[04:05:00] <zeeshan|2> yea
[04:05:22] <os1r1s> At what feed?
[04:05:24] <zeeshan|2> this is all approx
[04:05:28] <zeeshan|2> 0.002 ipt
[04:05:31] <zeeshan|2> 2 flute cutter
[04:05:44] <zeeshan|2> so around 25-30 ipm
[04:05:51] <os1r1s> That would be hauling ass
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[04:06:25] <os1r1s> Given I'm limited to 2250 RPM, I can't go near that
[04:07:00] <zeeshan|2> i hope i did the math right
[04:07:01] <zeeshan|2> checkin :P
[04:07:06] <zeeshan|2> my sense says its off
[04:07:07] <zeeshan|2> lol
[04:08:29] <zeeshan|2> fak
[04:08:32] <zeeshan|2> made a mistake
[04:08:48] <zeeshan|2> okay new numbers
[04:09:07] <os1r1s> hehe
[04:09:36] <zeeshan|2> 1/4" cutter, 2 flute, .25 woc, .25 doc, 0.001 ipt ,
[04:09:48] <zeeshan|2> so you can do 20 ipm
[04:09:49] <zeeshan|2> no prob
[04:09:57] <zeeshan|2> but you'd prolly want to take half the doc.
[04:10:02] <zeeshan|2> to keep a buffer
[04:10:08] <zeeshan|2> .125 doc is pretty damn good.
[04:10:12] <os1r1s> But limited to 2250 RPM I can't go near that anyway
[04:10:19] <os1r1s> I'll be stuck down around 8-9
[04:10:23] <os1r1s> IPM
[04:11:15] <os1r1s> Unless you think thats off
[04:11:38] <zeeshan|2> why are you limited to 2250 rpm
[04:11:45] <os1r1s> Max spindle speed
[04:11:50] <zeeshan|2> oh
[04:12:04] <zeeshan|2> yea that'll change things =-/
[04:12:08] <zeeshan|2> cause you need to maintain 0.001 ipt for sure
[04:12:13] <zeeshan|2> especifically if youre using carbide
[04:12:21] <zeeshan|2> thats going to be a touch one
[04:12:23] <zeeshan|2> *tough one
[04:12:45] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 So that will keep me under 10 IPM
[04:12:51] <os1r1s> Most likely
[04:13:01] <zeeshan|2> yes
[04:13:08] <zeeshan|2> but then your tool will be ploughing
[04:13:10] <zeeshan|2> rather than cutting
[04:13:19] <zeeshan|2> but if you use hss youll be ok
[04:13:27] <zeeshan|2> the yg1 carbide cutters are nice too
[04:13:33] <jfindley> Still at 0.05" DOC?
[04:13:37] <zeeshan|2> they have cutting edge radius of approx 0.0005"
[04:13:50] <zeeshan|2> no jfindley, at 0.125-0.25" doc
[04:13:56] <zeeshan|2> i personally wouldnt exceed .1875"
[04:14:02] <zeeshan|2> dont want to stall the motor :P
[04:14:18] <zeeshan|2> os1r1s: i think if you did 4:1 ratio
[04:14:21] <zeeshan|2> you could cut steel :D
[04:14:26] <zeeshan|2> easily
[04:14:28] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 That will be the goal
[04:14:33] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 Not that I do it often
[04:14:40] <os1r1s> But I would like to be able to without thinking
[04:14:52] <zeeshan|2> i hate gear ratios on cnc
[04:14:57] <zeeshan|2> another bs source of error!
[04:15:01] <zeeshan|2> but sometimes it has to be done
[04:15:18] <os1r1s> Maybe 6:1 would be decent. That would give me a good multiple and still let me rapid at 157 IPM
[04:15:27] <os1r1s> And plenty of torque
[04:15:33] <zeeshan|2> yes
[04:15:40] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 I was worried about what backlash it would introduce
[04:15:56] <zeeshan|2> if youre using those ebay ball screws
[04:16:00] <zeeshan|2> they'll be a source of backlash
[04:16:06] <zeeshan|2> need tweaking
[04:16:13] <zeeshan|2> mine had .004"
[04:16:18] <zeeshan|2> w/ the double nut i went down to 0.001"
[04:16:35] <zeeshan|2> the mxl or whatever those belts are called
[04:16:37] <zeeshan|2> from sdpsi
[04:16:44] <zeeshan|2> didnt do anything to bring in backlash
[04:16:56] <zeeshan|2> was happy about that :D
[04:17:10] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 I know the GT2 and HTD variants are supose to minizmize it
[04:17:12] <os1r1s> minimize it
[04:17:24] <Erant> I need to ream a blind hole for a taper pin. My reamer doesn't go in deep enough... Should I just cut it off?
[04:17:26] <os1r1s> But I am/was skeptical
[04:17:43] <Erant> It was a cheap reamer, I have no issue cutting it. Just wondering if that's what you're supposed to do.
[04:17:55] <zeeshan|2> erant i do the same thing with pipe taps
[04:17:56] <zeeshan|2> lol
[04:17:59] <zeeshan|2> when the hole is blind
[04:18:11] <os1r1s> zeeshan|2 Man, thank you for all your help. I've been batting this around for a few weeks now.
[04:18:18] <zeeshan|2> np man
[04:18:21] <Erant> I figured that was the solution. :)
[04:24:06] <Erant> I just replaced my Z axis with an 'ebay' ballscrew.
[04:24:29] <Erant> There's stil 0.005" there somewhere, but I think it's just the belts/pulley.
[04:25:00] <Erant> It's not the ballscrew (unless I f'ed it up somehow), should be C3 grade.
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[05:26:45] <Crom_> wow wind is really kicking up, Temecula CA south east of Los Angeles on I15
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[09:11:27] <rhavenj_> hi there, i need to buy a centronics parallel cable 36pin centronics to 25 pin parallel LPT cable. Is there anything i need to watch out for? anyone know if there are different pinout cables?
[09:14:15] <archivist> purpose of cable?
[09:14:35] <rhavenj_> to connect to an smc 800 driver board
[09:14:40] <archivist> most are 25 pin both ends and have been for years
[09:15:19] <rhavenj_> the board has a centronics 36 pin connector on one end
[09:15:26] <rhavenj_> im looking at http://www.ebay.de/itm/Druckerkabel-Parallelport-Centronics-36-polig-an-DSub-25-polig-1-8m-/310420310225?hash=item48467e08d1:g:sqkAAOSwofxUlV3m
[09:15:58] <rhavenj_> which says only 18 pins are connected, which led me to think that perhaps different configurations exsist
[09:16:08] <archivist> I know the connector, I worked with the real centonics connector when I worked with printers
[09:18:30] <rhavenj_> archivist, have you run into 18 pin cables in the past?
[09:18:43] <archivist> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1284
[09:19:51] <rhavenj_> archivist, yes i was reading that wiki page as well
[09:20:01] <archivist> so is a cable is to that spec it should include all the needed wires
[09:20:09] <archivist> is/if
[09:22:48] <rhavenj_> hmm so i should only buy one that specifically mentions ieee 1284
[09:24:26] <archivist> to ensure the cable is fully wired yes http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Belkin-Gold-Series-IEEE-1284-Parallel-Printer-Cable-A-B-5m-Gold-Plated-/251455543452
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[09:25:55] <archivist> I see a lot of crap on ebay in that regard
[09:28:18] <rhavenj_> i find http://www.ebay.de/itm/5m-Drucker-Kabel-Premium-LPT-Centronic-IEEE1284-Parallel-Y46-520-/221016825800?hash=item3375a11fc8:g:6sMAAOSw7FRWZyLj
[09:28:35] <rhavenj_> but cannot identify what Y46 means
[09:29:20] <archivist> looks expensive
[09:30:34] <rhavenj_> or http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hama-Gold-Line-Drucker-Kabel-3m-IEEE1284-Parallel-Centronics-Kabel-24k-vergoldet-/330877076954?hash=item4d09cf85da:g:gEgAAOSwcu5URbNL
[09:34:54] <rhavenj_> i think thats the one
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[10:56:13] <witnit> rhavenj what is the board you are connecting to?
[10:56:18] <witnit> rhavenj_:
[10:57:35] <archivist> <rhavenj_> to connect to an smc 800 driver board
[10:58:49] <rhavenj_> witnit, yes SMC 800
[10:59:48] <rhavenj_> in the data sheet only says "A standard printer cable is necessary"
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[11:01:19] <witnit> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiSqde5tNbKAhVG1CYKHRsNAFAQFghKMAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.robio.be%2Fcnc%2Fsecond%2FJumbo_plotter%2FSMC800%2FSmc800_eng_v2.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGc_RSctWO6uvj4qhupKv2G6WHc2w&bvm=bv.113034660,d.eWE
[11:01:24] <witnit> page 26
[11:04:15] <witnit> http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/parallel-db25-36chart.gif
[11:04:59] <witnit> rhavenj_: you should probably be able to see if all centronics cables are the same with those types of charts
[11:05:59] <rhavenj_> witnit, thanks, problem is i havent found sellers which post the pinouts for their cables. archivists suggestion was to make sure the standard ieee 1284 is used
[11:06:51] <rhavenj_> om your second link its not clear which pins correspond
[11:07:03] <rhavenj_> there are more pins on the centronics side listed which are connected
[11:07:15] <archivist> they are named on the second link
[11:07:29] <witnit> from what i understand centronics printer cables basicly became a standard of their own and are "AFAIK" always the same pins 1-18
[11:07:38] <archivist> and there are more grounds in the 36p
[11:08:09] <witnit> most likely just a 25 pin cable with the last pins all soldered together
[11:08:40] <rhavenj_> cant be, pin 31 32 and 36 are not ground
[11:09:25] <witnit> they are just jumped to pins 16 15 and 17 respectively i would imagine
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[11:10:02] <rhavenj_> yea could be
[11:10:04] <archivist> nah its the direction and side
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[11:11:47] <witnit> http://s505763140.onlinehome.us/specs/PC304-xxM_S.jpg
[11:11:53] <archivist> the original 36 pin was designed with data/ground twisted pair in mind, and then some cheap IBM skimped on pins
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[11:14:20] <witnit> ohhh ooops that last one would be the mini connector
[11:14:26] <witnit> not the standard one I guess
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[11:17:29] <witnit> you might be better off buying just a db25 to centronics adapter and then you can pin the machine out yourself with a really nice parallel cable :)
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[12:54:11] <jthornton> morning
[12:57:21] <archivist> past morning its sammich time
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[14:26:36] <archivist> bailiff at the door
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[14:52:42] <_methods> RUN
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[15:48:04] <Simonious> what does -2B mean to a machinist on a tapped hole?
[15:49:58] <cradek> that is the tolerance class
[15:50:22] <cradek> you call the hole and the bolt both (say) 1/4-20 but for it to work the hole has to be bigger than the screw
[15:50:47] <cradek> how much bigger depends on the application
[15:51:32] <gregcnc> Tolerance spec on pitch diameter
[15:51:43] <Gaston|Home> Here is a guide that was linked from wikipedia http://www.amesweb.info/Screws/AsmeUnifiedInchScrewThread.aspx
[15:51:46] <Simonious> the bolts are 6-32 and 1/4-28
[15:51:49] <Simonious> thanks
[15:52:09] <Gaston|Home> And the wiki page was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Thread_Standard
[15:52:15] <cradek> do you have machinery's handbook?
[15:52:23] <Simonious> I don't.
[15:52:26] <Simonious> I probabl should
[15:52:47] <cradek> you should! it's probably fine to get one a few versions old.
[15:53:00] <Simonious> I'm not a machinist, but I do a little machining - very much a novice. I work in a prototype shop, most of that work is done by another guy, but he isn't always here.
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[15:54:49] <Gaston|Home> I would guess that most shops that do things to tight tolerances have a set of GO/NO GO samples to verify
[15:56:42] <_methods> they do indeed
[15:57:17] * Simonious nods
[15:59:19] <_methods> http://www.shars.com/files/products/303-1601/303-1601Main.jpg
[15:59:30] <_methods> don't think i'd get my go/nogo's from shars
[15:59:31] <_methods> but whatever
[16:00:06] <_methods> http://www.threadcheck.com/product_images/large/southern-thread-ring-gage-inch-go-no-go-set.jpg
[16:00:10] <_methods> and for od threads
[16:04:11] <CaptHindsight> did the tap come back out of the hole? did it leave any parts of the tap in the hole? NO --> Reject, Yes --> Inspection Passed
[16:04:45] <Simonious> I see MANY books with 'machinist's handbook' in the title.. which is the one?
[16:05:08] <_methods> machinery's handbook
[16:05:25] <_methods> http://www.amazon.com/Machinerys-Handbook-29th-Erik-Oberg/dp/083112900X
[16:05:37] <_methods> i believe that is the newest
[16:06:22] <CaptHindsight> are they like math books? Do you need the latest one since math changes so often? :)
[16:06:28] <_methods> nah you don't
[16:06:44] <_methods> i mean it's nice to have the latest and greatest
[16:07:10] <_methods> but stuff like thread tolerances/class of fit don't change much
[16:07:19] <CaptHindsight> Simonious: I come across them in used book stores
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[16:07:52] <_methods> unlike "software engineers" mechanical engineers tend to make things that last
[16:08:14] <CaptHindsight> bunch on ebay for ~$25
[16:08:21] <_methods> and they dont' just make up new threads for funzies
[16:08:38] <Simonious> yay! I just found the 26th edition on _the_ bookshelf :D
[16:08:50] <Simonious> I was going to order one for the shop if I couldn't find one.
[16:09:06] <Cromaglious> mechanical engineers either make things that last OR make things explode
[16:09:06] <CaptHindsight> I once had someone that was serious make an argument for why kids need the latest math books
[16:09:44] <Cromaglious> I prefer math books from the early '60s
[16:10:08] <Cromaglious> before all this new math and common core crap
[16:10:13] <_methods> hehe
[16:10:17] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious: I agree
[16:10:20] <gregcnc> No!! MATH changed, haven't you heard of Common Core
[16:10:49] <CaptHindsight> I once found a set that covered basic math through Calc from the 40's. It was written so clearly
[16:10:55] <gregcnc> https://rylander4bgsd.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/estimate_math_2.jpg
[16:11:02] <_methods> um don't you know everything in life has to be easy
[16:11:02] <Cromaglious> I don't need quantum physics when designing a engine mount
[16:11:08] <_methods> nothing can be difficult
[16:11:21] <_methods> everyone can do anything they want
[16:11:50] <CaptHindsight> and everyone deserves a reward just for showing up
[16:11:55] <_methods> true dat
[16:12:01] <_methods> now where's my scooby snack
[16:12:30] <Cromaglious> BULL PUCKEY!!! if you show up get the Tshirt, get a trophy for actually winning!
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[16:13:55] <Cromaglious> YEA!!! FedEx found my hitch!
[16:13:56] <_methods> they don't keep score anymore at little league games i hear
[16:14:01] <_methods> so there are no winners or losers
[16:14:10] <CaptHindsight> all suckers
[16:14:50] <gregcnc> Capt, did the Sl-5 follow you home?
[16:14:57] <_methods> no more dodgeball
[16:15:14] <_methods> to me that's the biggest crime
[16:15:19] <_methods> life without dodgeball
[16:15:40] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: didn't look at it yet, it would be an extra lathe, so not pressing
[16:16:58] <CaptHindsight> well life today is all about feelings, not like the olden days
[16:17:42] <_methods> i'm pretty sure my grandpa had feelings, mostly hatred, but he had some
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[16:18:57] <_methods> http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Tyler-Texas-Lightning-Strike.gif
[16:19:00] <Cromaglious> no more dodge ball? Grrr how am I supposed to take out my aggression on the bullies?
[16:19:18] <_methods> bewm
[16:20:12] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious: you're doing it wrong, you are supposed to be a bully, and then talk about how bullying is wrong and there is a bullying policy
[16:20:57] <Cromaglious> those pricks are still bullies, and 4 out of 5 are now cops...
[16:21:17] <Cromaglious> I still think they have problems adding 2 plus 2
[16:21:40] <Cromaglious> Why do you think I live at the other end of the state now
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[16:24:01] <CaptHindsight> Cromaglious: be careful with that talk, you're not supposed to be aware of any double standards, let alone talk about them
[16:24:24] <_methods> yeah i'm sure that will hurt someones feelings somewhere
[16:25:07] <CaptHindsight> lol
[16:32:02] <Cromaglious> I'm 51, like I give a shit for peoples feelings..
[16:33:28] <_methods> heheh
[16:37:40] <Cromaglious> I wish the Veterans Administration would hurry up and get that nice big juicy check... I need a MILL!
[16:38:30] <Cromaglious> s/get that/send that/
[16:39:55] <CaptHindsight> how long have you been waiting?
[16:41:20] <Cromaglious> They remanded my case back to San Diego in December, so I should be hearing something in the next 668 days
[16:41:37] <Cromaglious> I appealed 7 years ago
[16:42:58] <CaptHindsight> it's their way of thanking you for your service and sacrifice
[16:43:44] <Cromaglious> looking at this one http://www.amazon.com/Bolton-Dovetail-Compound-Variable-Required/dp/B001KW1LBO
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[18:35:46] <Frank__> helloes
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[18:45:44] <Frank__> guys how many threads do you think an m6 tap can do
[18:45:53] <_methods> depends on the tap
[18:45:55] <_methods> and the material
[18:46:02] <_methods> rigidity of the machine and setup
[18:46:08] <gregcnc> 0 to ~10,000
[18:46:13] <_methods> ^^
[18:46:14] <_methods> lol
[18:47:34] <gregcnc> when it gets harder to turn you can replace it. Eventually it will be so dull torque breaks it or the thread is out of spec.
[18:50:15] <gregcnc> and we've all broken a brand new tap at least once in our life
[18:50:37] <Jymmm> NEVAH!!!!
[18:51:26] * Jymmm covers the EDM broken tap/bolt remover
[18:51:54] <Deejay> hrhr
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[18:54:22] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YbeKxFBZrF8#t=351
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[19:04:37] <CaptHindsight> taps only break on the last hole right before you leave on Friday :)
[19:04:57] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight+++++++++++++
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[19:05:51] <maxcnc> no internet at the shop forced to close early
[19:07:00] <CaptHindsight> maxcnc: are the machines controlled over the internet?
[19:07:02] <maxcnc> all shops around are angry on the 7days no internet call from the provider
[19:07:19] <maxcnc> CaptHindsight: no but the costemer and the orders
[19:07:44] <CaptHindsight> did something break at your ISP?
[19:07:53] <_methods> https://m.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/43fi39/i_set_up_my_raspberry_pi_to_automatically_tweet/
[19:07:57] <maxcnc> reading the logs
[19:08:01] <_methods> just set that up
[19:08:24] <CaptHindsight> love it
[19:08:28] <_methods> lol
[19:09:31] <maxcnc> rasperry is cool town uses them to provide the web infos offline in the middle of nowhere on a truck battery that runs for 1 month
[19:10:52] <maxcnc> Joke -> deers like to chat and text etch other in the wild wild wood
[19:11:25] <maxcnc> Frank__: ? still mounting or milling
[19:12:47] <Frank__> hello
[19:13:09] <Frank__> gregcnc sorry for delay
[19:13:10] <maxcnc> CaptHindsight: we are going from 700kb speed up to 50mb
[19:13:12] <Frank__> of righting
[19:13:16] <Frank__> writing
[19:13:24] <Frank__> today, i bought 2 taps for the hole machine
[19:13:27] <Frank__> guess what
[19:13:37] <Frank__> 8 holes and broked 1 tap T_T
[19:13:46] <Frank__> i felt like sh~€
[19:13:57] <_methods> they banned lawn darts
[19:13:58] <_methods> wtf
[19:14:02] <maxcnc> Frank__: i managed once in the back days real job work to tap m6 250+ holes at 15 turns etch in C45
[19:14:23] <Frank__> nicee
[19:14:37] <Frank__> this is mild steel 12 mm
[19:15:22] <maxcnc> runing thru is more complicated then a surten depth
[19:15:33] <Frank__> surten?
[19:15:50] <maxcnc> 20mm depth not thrue
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[19:16:36] <Frank__> well,, still more than 12 mm tapping?
[19:16:39] <maxcnc> im out of english on that <- to old
[19:16:40] <membiblio> Greetings - does HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS=YES work?
[19:17:00] <maxcnc> yes
[19:17:23] <maxcnc> membiblio: there is also home is shared
[19:17:35] <membiblio> If so - why does LCNC complain about Joint X on Limit Switch?
[19:17:48] <cradek> in what situation?
[19:18:02] <membiblio> maxcnc - I don't use Home Is Shared - I have separate switches for everything.
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[19:18:33] <maxcnc> membiblio: talk to cradek
[19:18:41] <membiblio> cradek when I power on the machine to home - I always have to edge the servo's off the limit switch
[19:19:19] <cradek> it's sitting on the limit switch when you power on?
[19:19:33] <membiblio> cradek yes
[19:19:35] <cradek> why?
[19:19:38] <maxcnc> then your home is wrong you shoudt use Home and homeoffset different values
[19:20:01] <membiblio> Because the Z axis sinks when the machine is not powered.
[19:20:01] <cradek> you have to use override limits to get off the limit switch before you can go to machine-on state. you must be in machine-on state to home
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[19:20:10] <maxcnc> and the last move of the day is G0 G53 X10 Y10 Z-10
[19:20:37] <membiblio> cradek - show do you use override limits - is that not what HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS=YES is for?
[19:20:39] <cradek> ah I see. yeah that is not a homing configuration issue at all.
[19:20:43] <cradek> no
[19:20:44] <maxcnc> so next day is power on home :-)
[19:21:22] <cradek> "override limit" lets you turn on machine power so you can move off the limit switch
[19:21:48] <membiblio> cradek - how do you use override limit?
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[19:21:59] <maxcnc> membiblio: cand you fix some gearing in the Z
[19:22:04] <gregcnc> Frank__ the trouble you're having with the hole drilling probably isn't helping tapping
[19:22:05] <membiblio> You mean the checkbox?
[19:22:12] <cradek> turn on override limit - turn on machine power - jog in the correct direction to move off the limit switch
[19:22:16] <cradek> yes
[19:22:35] <cradek> then after you are off the limit switch machine power will stay on, all is fine, go ahead and home
[19:22:53] <Frank__> gregcnc: maybe a hole or two, but most of them actually came pretty good, not excellent but..
[19:23:00] <cradek> you do NOT want HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS unless you have no separate home switch
[19:23:13] <Frank__> from 5mm bit i got 5.25mm hole on the biggest part
[19:23:20] <membiblio> cradek - yes that works but is not a ideal solution for a automagic machine
[19:23:26] <membiblio> craded - thank you
[19:23:37] <membiblio> crakek - thank you... :)
[19:23:42] <_methods> lol
[19:23:46] <cradek> ideal solution is to have counterweight on Z axis so it doesn't fall
[19:24:00] <cradek> falling is dangerous and will break tooling and ruin work
[19:24:02] <gregcnc> HSS taps?
[19:24:21] <membiblio> cradek this is a servo pheumatic machine - it rests on the spindle by design
[19:24:40] <membiblio> cradek - it is a old Routech 250
[19:24:47] <cradek> I have seen shops use a 4x4 cut to the right length to hold the head up :-)
[19:25:35] <JT-Shop> the shop that works on my car and truck has ice wood... they prop up the trusses when it ices
[19:25:51] <maxcnc> im off Gn8
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[19:26:10] <cradek> you mean they hold the roof up temporarily until the ice melts?
[19:26:57] <JT-Shop> yep
[19:27:00] <cradek> wow!
[19:27:28] <JT-Shop> they put them in the center of each truss and he said you can't get them back out till the ice melts
[19:27:56] <Frank__> yes hss
[19:28:30] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: That's a "security feature" =)
[19:28:45] <Frank__> im going to cry if i break this one again
[19:29:07] * Jymmm hands Frank__ a box of tissues (just in case)
[19:29:24] * JT-Shop goes back to lumberjacking
[19:29:34] <Frank__> i think i broke it because my corded drill is working kind of bad, and i overtorqued the tap
[19:29:38] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Hey, have you considered geothermal?
[19:29:40] <Frank__> hahaa
[19:30:03] <Frank__> what do you guys do to talk specially to someone
[19:30:21] <Jymmm> Frank__: I've chucked taps in the drillpress, then MANUALLY turned it
[19:30:25] <Frank__> i do the jymmm: but i dont know if its the right thing
[19:30:49] <Frank__> even if they are machine taps?
[19:31:28] <Jymmm> Frank__: I'm speaking of hand tapping something. The drillpress keeps the alignment
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[19:32:20] <Jymmm> It's REAL easy to use a cordless drill to tap, then kinda go sideways and.... *SNAP*
[19:33:06] <Frank__> i've seen that fixture, but the way this holes are made, the drillpress doesnt end up quite true
[19:33:15] <Jymmm> ah
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[19:33:49] <Jymmm> Just an option if scenario merits it.
[19:34:13] <Frank__> yeah, ill try for the gantry, which is more manageable
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[19:35:39] <Jymmm> It's not necesairlly "easier", just slightly more accurate and less prone to breakage as you can "feel" how the tap is progressing. Also be sure to back out the tap every few turns
[19:35:54] <Jymmm> and use some kind of cutting/tapping fluid
[19:37:02] <Jymmm> Especially if it's at the end of the day and you're getting tire and not thinking too straight ;)
[19:37:07] <Jymmm> tired*
[19:38:26] <_methods> anchor lube FTW
[19:41:06] <Frank__> wd40 works :D ?
[19:41:08] <Jymmm> _methods: PHUK... it's tweet comcast sucking, then a page and a half of cars/majors/the wire *sigh*
[19:41:29] <Frank__> motor oil?
[19:41:38] <_methods> sure motor oil will work too
[19:41:43] <_methods> i've used that before
[19:42:02] <Frank__> then we have a winner
[19:42:03] <Frank__> hahaha
[19:42:10] <gregcnc> meh ATT sucks too
[19:43:36] <gregcnc> Comcast around here is 2-3x fast and cheaper. ATT resets my router when they, I'm guessing, run out of bandwidth
[19:43:54] <Jymmm> gregcnc: Where are you?
[19:44:02] <gregcnc> NW of Chicago
[19:44:20] <Jymmm> ah, NorCal here. usually no issues liek that
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[19:45:44] <gregcnc> I called them about it and it didn't reset for 2-3 weeks, they tried to tell me it was my wiring. service improved right after the call
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[19:46:01] <Frank__> that sounds oddly familiar
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[19:47:23] <_methods> it's a lot easier to blame it on you
[19:48:59] <Jymmm> If I get shit from ATT, I just call corporate offices. problem solved.
[19:50:03] <Jymmm> Not like ranting, but when stuff is actually fubar'ed and you can't get a proper resolution.
[19:52:47] <gregcnc> I think I have 2-3 months then back to Comcast, probably no TV this time too.
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[20:26:18] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: there's a Comcast reseller that offers lower rates and no contract
[20:26:33] <gregcnc> oh?
[20:26:57] <CaptHindsight> UWC uwchs.com
[20:27:27] <CaptHindsight> they will hand you a modem and cable if you want or bring your own
[20:27:51] <CaptHindsight> if there's already signal you can self install and activate
[20:28:53] <gregcnc> I'll look into it thanks!
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[21:41:31] <JT-Shop> YEA my Mesa order is on the way
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[21:42:44] <enleth> at least you don't have to wait fucking three weeks for the customs to clear it
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[21:49:42] <JT-Shop> yea customs can be somewhat of a pia sometimes
[21:50:20] <JT-Shop> when I worked in Zaire you had to bribe the customs to get your stuff through
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[21:56:39] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:08:09] <Erant> Any suggestions for an affordable bench grinder?
[22:08:37] <Erant> Looking for something to just touch up bits and whatnot.
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[22:12:37] <JT-Shop> do you have a flea market nearby
[22:14:00] <Erant> Yeah, fair point.
[22:15:14] <JT-Shop> I got a buffer for $5 and use a wire wheel on it to clean stuff
[22:18:12] <enleth> Erant: get the cheapest one and forget it, replace when it falls apart?
[22:18:31] <enleth> that's just about the only tool the chinese can't screw up
[22:18:37] <Erant> I think I was mostly wondering about the quality of the wheels on it
[22:18:53] <Erant> But I guess if they were flying apart on a regular basis we'd hear about it
[22:18:56] <enleth> ah, of course you buy separate wheels
[22:20:40] <enleth> but the grinder itself - unless you want a fancy adjustable rest, wet grinding capability or something like that, get the cheapest one you see
[22:20:54] <enleth> (for the size required)
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[22:22:12] <Erant> Figured an 8" to prevent too much rounding when I'm grinding tools
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[22:56:20] <Kucharsky> Hey do you guys know how to get rid of splash gcode program in sim.axis demo configuration?
[22:56:38] <Kucharsky> It always loads up by default
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[23:09:44] <rob_h> there is Ini setting to say what loads on start
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[23:29:06] * JT-Shop waves at rob_h
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[23:50:58] <Kucharsky> rob_h: dang it, I don't think there is
[23:51:35] <Kucharsky> looking at this file right now and no param seems to ring a bell
[23:51:50] <Kucharsky> Hey do you guys know how to get rid of splash gcode program in sim.axis demo configuration?
[23:51:55] <Kucharsky> It always loads up by default
[23:51:55] <JT-Shop> Kucharsky: yes just use ""
[23:52:34] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: use it where?
[23:53:01] <JT-Shop> splash image or the gcode file?
[23:53:07] <Kucharsky> gcode
[23:53:26] <Kucharsky> I see the param for splash img but not for splash gcode
[23:53:43] <JT-Shop> it's not a splash
[23:53:44] <JT-Shop> OPEN_FILE = /full/path/to/file.ngc - The file to show in the preview plot when AXIS starts. Use a blank string "" and no file will be loaded at start up.
[23:53:58] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-config.html#_display_section
[23:54:56] <JT-Shop> now tell me where my calculator is
[23:55:04] <Kucharsky> thanks man,
[23:55:31] <JT-Shop> must be time to clean my desk
[23:56:33] <Kucharsky> well... I'll buy U a new one if U keep helping me like this man ;)
[23:56:58] <JT-Shop> I have 6 around the shop lol and that's what we do on the irc
[23:58:13] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: I bet U don't have anything like this: http://allegro.pl/stary-kalkulator-elektronika-mk57-prl-zsrr-cccp-i5945890007.html
[23:59:11] <Kucharsky> Soviet CCCP indestructible
[23:59:36] <Kucharsky> made to withstand nuclear blast
[23:59:54] <JT-Shop> no, I do have this http://gnipsel.com/images/JD350/350b01s.jpg