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[00:01:30] <XXCoder> whats it for
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[00:06:08] <Jymmm> oh, nm, less than 40 lbs
[00:06:13] <Jymmm> I forgot
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[01:14:24] <zeeshan|2> whats up
[01:14:52] <XXCoder> you
[01:15:00] <XXCoder> not much actually
[01:15:24] <zeeshan|2> slacking off
[01:15:26] <zeeshan|2> when i should be working :{
[01:15:49] <XXCoder> work or I will get over there with broomstick
[01:15:56] <zeeshan|2> hehe
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[01:19:30] <PetefromTn_> I should be workin' but I am watching Tomorrowland hehe
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[01:21:34] <Tom_itx> so PetefromTn_ did you sell your house?
[01:21:48] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2
[01:22:02] <Tom_itx> i'm trying to remember what a tool is called in catia...
[01:22:08] <Tom_itx> thought you might know
[01:22:15] <zeeshan|2> which one
[01:22:33] <Tom_itx> it's when you want to select coordinates of a feature based on a solid's edge
[01:22:41] <Tom_itx> like the top of a radius
[01:22:54] <Tom_itx> it may not be in ver 24
[01:23:02] <Tom_itx> i'm using ver 25 at the uni
[01:23:32] <Tom_itx> it's a poor way to do it but it's how this drawing is referenced
[01:24:11] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Problem23.jpg
[01:24:28] <Tom_itx> those top side holes are referenced to that left radius outter edge
[01:24:30] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx sorta ;)
[01:24:58] <zeeshan|2> project geometry?
[01:25:23] <Tom_itx> i can't remember what catia calls it but i don't think it's in R5V24
[01:26:05] <Tom_itx> that doesn't sound like it
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[01:29:23] <Tom_itx> you can't reference the centerline of the hole because it's not on the same plane
[01:29:31] <Tom_itx> you need to be able to project it
[01:30:48] <Tom_itx> http://catiadoc.free.fr/online/dysug_C2/dysugbt0510.htm
[01:31:20] <XXCoder> wonder if nonecludian designs is possible lol
[01:32:53] <bobo> PetefromTn was just watching Abom79 and he looks cold even with a wool hat on and layered shirts. bet you will be similar in 2 years
[01:33:02] <zeeshan|2> rofl bobo
[01:33:27] <CaptHindsight> Catia Hyperspace Edition
[01:33:33] <bobo> Hi zeeshan
[01:33:39] <zeeshan|2> hi
[01:33:46] <zeeshan|2> will you keep me accompany
[01:33:48] <zeeshan|2> till 5am
[01:33:55] <zeeshan|2> im about to go in the shop :P
[01:33:58] <CaptHindsight> comes with 8-d display and mouse
[01:34:27] <Tom_itx> well i'm not really supposed to be asking these questions in class yet
[01:34:30] <PetefromTn_> bobo dafuk?
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[01:34:36] <Tom_itx> probably not for another 6-8 weeks
[01:34:48] <Tom_itx> but i'm nearly done with all the work
[01:35:18] <Tom_itx> i did all the problems in the book so i asked the instructor for more
[01:35:32] <Tom_itx> he looked a little surprised but said he'd fine some
[01:36:57] <CaptHindsight> sounds a bit brown nosy :)
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[01:37:27] <Tom_itx> either that or watch youtube the rest of the class
[01:37:28] <__rob2> anyone able to tell me what a Super spacer rotatry table is ?
[01:37:38] <__rob2> the super spacer bit is what I dont get
[01:37:38] <PetefromTn_> sure
[01:37:46] <PetefromTn_> its an indexer
[01:37:52] <PetefromTn_> that uses masking plates
[01:38:03] <PetefromTn_> AND it can work like a typical rotary table
[01:38:23] <PetefromTn_> I used to have a YUASA Super Accra Dex
[01:38:52] <PetefromTn_> it was a nice unit and I should have NEVER sold it but like an idiot I thought because I have CNC I did not need it anymore LOL
[01:39:17] <__rob2> so you can index it for gears and such
[01:39:20] <__rob2> right ?
[01:39:22] <PetefromTn_> sure
[01:39:33] <__rob2> but, how is that different to any rotary table
[01:39:35] <PetefromTn_> mine had a built in 3 jaw chuck
[01:39:47] <PetefromTn_> well because it has the masking plates too
[01:39:50] <zeeshan|2> rob a lot of rotary tables
[01:39:53] <PetefromTn_> and there is a lever
[01:39:53] <zeeshan|2> dont have indexable locations
[01:39:58] <zeeshan|2> you have to manually dial it in
[01:40:02] <PetefromTn_> that allows you to index specific degrees
[01:40:21] <__rob2> ahh, so the masking plates lock it off exactly at those postions ?
[01:40:26] <zeeshan|2> ya
[01:40:27] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[01:40:36] <__rob2> just looking at Tormachs ones
[01:40:41] <zeeshan|2> oh god
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[01:40:46] <__rob2> guess indexable would be more rigid
[01:40:49] <__rob2> no ?
[01:40:53] <bobo> zeeshan|2 I have Narcolepsy. what is latest with your friends Deckel and what is your latest project on the mill till 5AM
[01:41:02] <__rob2> if your doing like 90 degree increments
[01:41:06] <zeeshan|2> bobo i need to start production on those bodies
[01:41:13] <zeeshan|2> i gotta finish op one on 80 bodies
[01:41:16] <__rob2> zeeshan|2, why ?
[01:41:18] <zeeshan|2> this guy keeps changing numbers
[01:41:21] <__rob2> whats wrong with their 4th axis
[01:41:34] <zeeshan|2> __rob2: are you doing this for a hobby
[01:41:44] <PetefromTn_> its just a chinese 4th that they sell really
[01:41:54] <__rob2> yea
[01:41:57] <__rob2> well, sort of
[01:42:01] <__rob2> not production run or anything
[01:42:08] <__rob2> but I want precision
[01:42:08] <zeeshan|2> i like how john grismo talked so big about tormach
[01:42:17] <zeeshan|2> and now he shit talks them everytime cause he has a mori
[01:42:18] <zeeshan|2> lol
[01:42:57] <__rob2> pretty happy with the pcnc 1100
[01:43:02] <__rob2> for me the results are awesome
[01:43:05] <XXCoder> sometimes something is awesome till you find better
[01:43:11] <__rob2> of course
[01:43:25] <XXCoder> hurco was nice and awesome... till I ran better machines. better and old machines.
[01:43:28] <__rob2> but for the money
[01:43:35] <__rob2> not sure what else I could have got
[01:43:35] <zeeshan|2> for the money?!? lets not start haha
[01:43:37] <__rob2> new
[01:43:44] <zeeshan|2> i guess most people can't retrofit
[01:43:46] <gregcnc> for new machine money
[01:44:11] <__rob2> well, i dont want to make cnc mills
[01:44:14] <__rob2> I want to make stuff with it
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[01:44:24] <__rob2> dont have the time for both
[01:44:54] <__rob2> i'm sure used could have got some haas machine or something
[01:44:55] <Tom_itx> ahh! i found it i think
[01:44:57] <__rob2> but then have to mess around
[01:45:04] <zeeshan|2> fak im growing up to be a grumpy old bastard
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[01:45:17] <zeeshan|2> bobo: the deckel is running
[01:45:22] <zeeshan|2> but he can't shift it into high g ear
[01:45:28] <zeeshan|2> i think its a stripped gear
[01:45:29] <Tom_itx> project 3d canonical silhouette edges
[01:45:34] <__rob2> http://www.tormach.com/store/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=8-IN-SUPSPC-TABLES
[01:45:36] <__rob2> looking at that
[01:45:50] <Tom_itx> i had to turn on the 3d tool set
[01:46:09] <__rob2> $2200, ready to go
[01:47:34] <bobo> zeeshan the deckel - does it have 2 or does it have 3 shift motors ?
[01:47:40] <zeeshan|2> 1
[01:47:45] <zeeshan|2> high and low gear
[01:47:54] <zeeshan|2> 20-800 rpm or something like that
[01:48:02] <zeeshan|2> and 800-6000
[01:48:15] <zeeshan|2> thats what they've told me they read in the brochsure
[01:48:24] <zeeshan|2> i thought it was 3 shift motor standard.
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[01:50:01] <zeeshan|2> http://www.practicalmachinist.com/mahobed.jpg
[01:50:12] <zeeshan|2> i love how it does the horizontal to veritcal transition
[01:50:19] <zeeshan|2> isn't that cool?
[01:50:38] <bobo> that must be servo spindle drive motor. the Maho uses plastic shift gears -wonder if there the same /
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[01:55:38] <zeeshan|2> hm
[01:55:43] <zeeshan|2> im thinking of changing my machining plan
[01:55:47] <zeeshan|2> face all parts first
[01:55:50] <zeeshan|2> then do the drilling
[01:56:00] <zeeshan|2> than do another stage for drilling
[01:56:07] <zeeshan|2> but problem is the damn wood pieces are all different widths
[01:56:13] <zeeshan|2> so its hard to get them consistent
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[01:58:06] <__rob2> ohh, also wondering what the best way to go about cutting a sloped plane is
[01:58:21] <__rob2> to cut a jig for it, so the slope is parallel to the tool
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[01:58:37] <zeeshan|2> put the work piece at a slope?
[01:58:47] <__rob2> well yea, just involves more setup
[01:59:05] <gregcnc> https://www.instagram.com/p/BBIv9yhRYM5/
[01:59:23] <__rob2> wondering how well it would work if it contoured the face then went over it with a ball nose endmill
[01:59:39] <zeeshan|2> rofl greg!
[01:59:54] <gregcnc> :)
[02:00:55] <gregcnc> Just depends how long you want to run the part for. Setting it up so you can face it would take much less time to machine than profiling with a few thousands step over.
[02:01:11] <gregcnc> unless the set takes a long time.
[02:01:38] <__rob2> I'll buy some angle blocks then
[02:02:11] <gregcnc> or mill some?
[02:02:43] <gregcnc> or are you talking about making angle blocks?
[02:04:03] <__rob2> well no, I want to mill the face of something at an angle
[02:04:12] <zeeshan|2> rob2 do you have a dial indicator?
[02:04:16] <zeeshan|2> plunge style
[02:04:17] <__rob2> yea,
[02:04:21] <zeeshan|2> if its just one part what i would do is
[02:04:35] <zeeshan|2> (and didnt have angle blocks)
[02:04:36] <__rob2> I guess I could mill the blocks, but there not that expensive
[02:04:54] <zeeshan|2> i'd jog say the maximum distance allowable on your part
[02:05:05] <zeeshan|2> like i dont know the angle
[02:05:08] <zeeshan|2> if its a 30 degree angle
[02:05:13] <zeeshan|2> i'd jog 2" for example
[02:05:18] <zeeshan|2> and see how much indicator changed
[02:05:38] <zeeshan|2> this is how i do odd angles to date
[02:05:40] <zeeshan|2> for one offs
[02:05:55] <zeeshan|2> one angle was 33.2 degrees :)
[02:06:28] <zeeshan|2> its a pain to setup, but could be done in 15 min
[02:06:28] <__rob2> yup, its a 1 off, but nice to have a set of angles
[02:12:17] <__rob2> got tormachs digitizing probe the other day
[02:12:22] <__rob2> might come in handy for that
[02:12:55] <__rob2> not tried it out yet
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[02:20:31] <zeeshan|2> okay im too lazy to machine tonight
[02:20:35] <zeeshan|2> i think its time to kick back for a day :)
[02:21:10] <bobo> zeeshan just looked at the MH1000 picture . think that is the Deckel Maho era design ,before (Guildmiester ? )
[02:21:42] <zeeshan|2> glidemeister made lathes only i think.
[02:21:52] <zeeshan|2> i have never seen a glidemeister mill
[02:22:27] <bobo> they were the G in DMG
[02:24:25] <bobo> and get ye back to machining
[02:24:26] <zeeshan|2> man these newer machines are awesome
[02:24:37] <zeeshan|2> i dunno if youve heard of the thermal displacement control on the moris
[02:24:57] <bobo> what year = newer ?
[02:24:58] <zeeshan|2> they're got a thermal loop that is always monitoring ambient temp
[02:25:06] <zeeshan|2> like 2008+
[02:25:07] <zeeshan|2> i think
[02:26:09] <zeeshan|2> its not the part they're compensating for
[02:26:24] <zeeshan|2> its how the temp changes tolerances on the machine itselfd
[02:26:34] <zeeshan|2> http://www.dmgmoriseiki.co.jp/en/news/pdf/2006_0802_newthermcont.pdf
[02:26:54] <bobo> yes machine frame temp comp
[02:30:38] <bobo> would think temp comp could be included in Linuxcnc though
[02:30:47] <Sync_> zeeshan|2: hermle pumps oil through their ballscrews
[02:31:05] <zeeshan|2> whgatcha mean sync
[02:31:14] <zeeshan|2> a lot of machines lube the ball screws
[02:31:37] <Sync_> no
[02:31:47] <Sync_> they are bored and they are temp controlled
[02:32:03] <Sync_> with *through* I mean through
[02:32:34] <zeeshan|2> ah
[02:32:52] <bobo> more flow of oil to matain a constant temp
[02:33:09] <Sync_> I think they are even controlling the pressure to do dynamic dampening
[02:33:31] <zeeshan|2> makes me want to buy a new machine
[02:33:31] <zeeshan|2> :/
[02:33:37] <Sync_> doeeet
[02:33:38] <zeeshan|2> but realistically, no need for it
[02:33:44] <Sync_> you know you want it
[02:33:48] <zeeshan|2> no
[02:33:58] <zeeshan|2> im very close to scoring a pretty big paying job at work
[02:34:03] <zeeshan|2> and it means less and less shop time for me
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[02:34:18] <zeeshan|2> ill always machine as a backup
[02:34:32] <zeeshan|2> but as a back up means not enough revenue to justify buying new
[02:34:55] <zeeshan|2> =[
[02:35:15] <zeeshan|2> the only way i can see it working out
[02:35:19] <zeeshan|2> is do production runs
[02:35:30] <zeeshan|2> where i'd set it up , and leave it running overnight
[02:35:40] <zeeshan|2> so massive batch processing
[02:35:45] <Sync_> and then come back to a burned down garage
[02:35:54] <zeeshan|2> i wouldnt put that machine in my garage
[02:35:57] <zeeshan|2> we're mvoing by next year
[02:36:04] <Sync_> we need to send you a manutec handling robot
[02:36:12] <Sync_> so you can automagically change pallets
[02:36:16] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[02:36:38] <zeeshan|2> its a big change in business strategy
[02:36:45] <zeeshan|2> cause i'd be going from "prototype work"
[02:36:51] <zeeshan|2> to coming up with a product and selling it
[02:36:56] <zeeshan|2> (production work)
[02:37:12] <Sync_> well, you can also sell prototype work
[02:37:26] <zeeshan|2> it requires too much commitment man
[02:37:32] <zeeshan|2> no time after 8 hours of day job
[02:37:43] <zeeshan|2> you literally have like 5 hours to eat shit and work :P
[02:37:51] <zeeshan|2> and you neglect everyone else
[02:38:26] <Sync_> quit your job is the obvious thing
[02:38:33] <zeeshan|2> helllllllllll no
[02:39:22] <zeeshan|2> ill let things play out
[02:39:27] <zeeshan|2> who knows one day :P
[02:39:29] <zeeshan|2> never say never!
[02:39:44] <zeeshan|2> i really like working for eaton
[02:39:53] <zeeshan|2> its a great work environment, get to interact w/ people
[02:39:57] <zeeshan|2> home shop is me by myself :(
[02:41:08] <Tom_itx> gimme a plane ticket and i'll come visit
[02:41:15] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[02:41:31] <zeeshan|2> its amazing how much you can learn off others
[02:41:33] <zeeshan|2> vs youtube
[02:41:38] <zeeshan|2> youtube is great
[02:42:04] <Tom_itx> there's a couple kids in the class that are pretty sharp
[02:42:15] <Tom_itx> we've been trading ideas
[02:42:20] <Tom_itx> makes it fun
[02:42:29] <zeeshan|2> Tom_itx: nothing beats social interaction
[02:43:02] <Tom_itx> then there's the poor ole guy that always sits on the other side of me that's still on the first couple exercises
[02:43:28] <zeeshan|2> everyone has their strengths and weaknesses :P
[02:43:28] <Tom_itx> it's just not clicking for him
[02:43:31] <zeeshan|2> some people buy tormachs :)
[02:43:33] <zeeshan|2> some buy dmg's
[02:43:34] <zeeshan|2> :p
[02:43:36] * zeeshan|2 hides
[02:43:46] <Sync_> seen that a few times Tom_itx, it is sad
[02:43:59] <Sync_> but usually they are really nice if you help them to succeed
[02:44:06] <Sync_> or they are just assholes
[02:44:14] <Tom_itx> i think it's a required class for something else he's doing
[02:44:32] <Tom_itx> he's a nice guy and his buddy is in my kid's class
[02:44:43] <Tom_itx> he just isn't catching on
[02:45:20] <Tom_itx> the first real quiz is monday, i'm afraid he's not gonna make i
[02:45:21] <Tom_itx> t
[02:47:21] <Sync_> ye
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[03:12:54] <bobo> Sync have you ever been around a Fehlmann cnc mill ? am interested in a compare against Mikron vers Herlme vers ?
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[03:23:17] <bobo> zeeshan not where but what type of place are you thinking of moving to in the near future?
[03:26:40] <zeeshan|2> rural
[03:26:49] <bobo> and why not just build the next place for what you want ?
[03:26:55] <Sync_> they are good machines iirc but not on a level with hermle bobo
[03:28:44] <bobo> sync above or below the level of say a hermle ? and why
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[03:57:28] <Sync_> personal feeling bobo, I have not done comparable jobs on them
[03:57:43] <Sync_> I feel hermles are more rigid and are better engineered
[03:58:44] <bobo> thanks for your thoughts
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[04:43:29] <zeeshan|2> :)
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[07:13:36] <XXCoder> heh http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3522
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[08:12:22] <Deejay> moin
[08:12:50] <XXCoder> yo
[08:13:01] <Deejay> hi XXCoder
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[13:47:31] <Tom_itx> moin
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[14:57:27] <zeeshan|2> mornin :P
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[14:59:16] <archivist> mid afternoon, what time do you call this!
[15:00:06] <zeeshan|2> archivist: should i keep this level
[15:00:33] <archivist> hard fo rme to say :(
[15:00:45] <zeeshan|2> is there anyway i can put a 0.0005" vial in it?
[15:01:09] <archivist> or just read/estimate it to that accuracy
[15:01:20] <zeeshan|2> i wanted this for machine leveling
[15:01:31] <zeeshan|2> the manuals usually say "0.05/1m level to be used"
[15:01:55] <archivist> I have changed a vial in the clinometer, that cost me £80 just for the vial
[15:02:06] <zeeshan|2> thats not bad
[15:02:15] <zeeshan|2> where do you get vials from?
[15:02:38] <archivist> some place in Leicester
[15:04:09] * zeeshan|2 needs
[15:04:17] <zeeshan|2> no 130952 hilger watts vial
[15:06:27] <archivist> or one encased in 12" of Cooke Troughton Sims iron
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[15:06:47] <zeeshan|2> archivist: please help me find a vial for it :)
[15:07:36] <archivist> here http://www.spectrum-metrology.co.uk/electro-optical-metrology/service-repair.php
[15:08:38] <zeeshan|2> emailing
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[15:12:07] <archivist> what did your level seller reply?
[15:12:16] <zeeshan|2> hes having a hard time giving me a return label
[15:12:19] <zeeshan|2> said would get back to me :P
[15:13:58] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hilgaer-Watts-12-Engineers-Precision-Block-Spirit-Machine-Level-in-box-130328-/301839927974?hash=item46470fcaa6:g:urAAAOSwBLlVT32X
[15:14:00] <zeeshan|2> what do you think of this?
[15:14:50] <archivist> you should buy my spare cooke for less :)
[15:15:00] <zeeshan|2> got a pic?
[15:15:01] <zeeshan|2> i will
[15:15:07] <zeeshan|2> I need one 0.05/1m
[15:15:44] <zeeshan|2> i see couple on ebay
[15:15:46] <zeeshan|2> for like 125 quid
[15:15:49] <zeeshan|2> but they look a bit rough
[15:15:55] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cooke-Troughton-Simms-Ltd-Engineers-Level-original-Box-Very-nice-/361473438702?hash=item54297ef3ee:g:xVAAAMXQM0FRfVXg
[15:16:05] <archivist> my spare is "used"
[15:16:14] <zeeshan|2> lets see! :D
[15:16:31] <archivist> let me take a pic.....
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[15:27:05] <zeeshan|2> la la la
[15:30:26] <archivist> clear space.....
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[15:32:56] <malcom2073> Man... spend $90 on a stupid vacuume hose kit for my car.. only to find it's missing the one piece that I bought the damn set for anyway.
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[15:38:01] <archivist> zeeshan|2, the darker one http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=cooke+troughton+levels
[15:38:07] <archivist> last 5 images
[15:39:22] <archivist> had a bit of a hard life, has some wear on its feet
[15:41:13] <zeeshan|2> i dont see wear? :)
[15:41:21] <zeeshan|2> you mean the corners being rounded?
[15:41:47] <zeeshan|2> is there adjustment for the vial?
[15:45:01] <archivist> the vial adjustment is under the serial number label
[15:45:15] <zeeshan|2> i kinda like the design of the hilger watts
[15:45:19] <zeeshan|2> i dont know why!
[15:45:48] <archivist> I see wear when I slide it on the surface plate and get shiny patches
[15:46:04] <zeeshan|2> ah
[15:46:09] <zeeshan|2> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=hilger+watts
[15:46:13] <zeeshan|2> im liking this page more :)
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[15:48:41] <archivist> my box is only a .001
[15:48:50] <zeeshan|2> same as mine
[15:48:51] <zeeshan|2> 6.2
[15:49:48] <archivist> but cooke did some good stuff http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=PD9357
[15:50:09] <zeeshan|2> to me , a person who doesn't know much about levels
[15:50:19] <zeeshan|2> the hilger watts looks higher quality :P
[15:50:23] <zeeshan|2> "looks" being the keyword
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[15:52:15] <archivist> the cooke box is .00025 " though :)
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[16:01:16] <archivist> damn the UPS price for sending it is a bit yuck
[16:01:16] <zeeshan|2> how much?
[16:01:17] <zeeshan|2> uk to canada shipping is $$ :)
[16:01:18] <archivist> 107 for the cheapest to 137
[16:01:18] <zeeshan|2> wow!
[16:01:21] <zeeshan|2> that box level came to me for 35 quid
[16:01:21] <zeeshan|2> (70$ cad)
[16:01:21] <zeeshan|2> they used royal mail though i think
[16:01:21] <archivist> what carrier?
[16:01:21] <zeeshan|2> which get rerouted to canada post
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[16:01:26] <zeeshan|2> if youre sending 2kg
[16:01:27] <zeeshan|2> using royal mail, using international standard
[16:01:27] <zeeshan|2> its 26 quid
[16:01:29] <archivist> but including packing this currently is around 10kg
[16:01:42] <PetefromTn_> Royal mail....Baah ;)
[16:01:45] <archivist> I kept the packing and it has a <10kg label
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[16:02:01] <zeeshan|2> 10kg!!
[16:02:01] <zeeshan|2> jeez
[16:02:46] <archivist> actually it was 6.5 kg in packing
[16:04:55] <zeeshan|2> i dont they ship anything more than 2.5kg
[16:04:58] <zeeshan|2> =/
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[16:07:08] <archivist> your level is somewhat heavy, my 6.2 is a gnats over 5kg
[16:07:18] <archivist> in box
[16:08:25] <archivist> he might have sent it on the new ebay global shipping thing
[16:08:30] <zeeshan|2> yes
[16:08:34] <zeeshan|2> that was it exactly
[16:09:32] <archivist> I had something via that route to here just before xmas
[16:09:46] <archivist> a bit of renishaw :)
[16:10:11] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[16:11:01] <archivist> amusing getting cheap renishaw from that distance
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[16:22:11] <zeeshan|2> its a joke
[16:22:16] <zeeshan|2> we're level nerds
[16:22:16] <zeeshan|2> :)
[16:23:01] <Tom_itx> so PetefromTn_ thinks he's movin again...
[16:23:13] <PetefromTn_> 3/4 plate is supposedly 30.6 lb/ft
[16:23:26] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx Don't know yet man
[16:23:27] <zeeshan|2> isnt it 7/8
[16:23:49] <Roguish> steel ==== 0.283 lb / cubic inch
[16:23:49] <Tom_itx> anticipation killin ya?
[16:24:08] <PetefromTn_> looks like 3/4 to me but I may be blind LOL
[16:24:20] <PetefromTn_> hell yeah the anticipation is killing me man
[16:24:26] <PetefromTn_> rub it in why dontcha
[16:24:30] <PetefromTn_> ;)
[16:24:34] <zeeshan|2> my table which is a 5 x 3
[16:24:37] <zeeshan|2> 1/2"
[16:24:41] <zeeshan|2> just the top is 500lb
[16:24:55] <PetefromTn_> that is probably 900 lbs easy huh
[16:25:00] <zeeshan|2> more
[16:25:05] <zeeshan|2> cause its bigger
[16:25:09] <PetefromTn_> sure
[16:25:23] <Tom_itx> OT but anybody use the square reader for business?
[16:25:38] <zeeshan|2> 4032 cubic inches
[16:26:02] <zeeshan|2> 1141 lb :P
[16:26:04] <PetefromTn_> 4608?
[16:26:51] <zeeshan|2> 4*8*12^2*.875
[16:27:14] <PetefromTn_> .75 ;)
[16:27:23] <zeeshan|2> it says 7/8 in the ad
[16:27:58] <zeeshan|2> but i think youre right
[16:28:02] <PetefromTn_> I know it does... can't remember if 7/8 steel measures 3/4
[16:28:02] <zeeshan|2> hes got that written wrong
[16:28:08] <zeeshan|2> causehe's showing .75
[16:28:21] <PetefromTn_> still thick as hell and monster heavy
[16:28:44] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_ what's it gonna cost ya to move all your machines to FL?
[16:28:57] <PetefromTn_> too damn much :D
[16:29:07] <Tom_itx> worth taking them?
[16:29:14] <Tom_itx> or get more once you're there..
[16:29:16] <PetefromTn_> probably $2k or more
[16:31:06] <PetefromTn_> so yeah way worth the price but it still sucks to have to pay it.
[16:31:28] <PetefromTn_> shame these things gotta be so damn heavy huh
[16:31:48] <Tom_itx> shove it in a Uhaul... haha
[16:32:00] <PetefromTn_> I would if it would fit ;)
[16:32:13] <PetefromTn_> bitch is pretty big
[16:32:25] <Tom_itx> i doubt they're trucks are rated for the load
[16:32:42] <PetefromTn_> I did not really realize HOW big until I saw it on the back of that rollback wrecker coming to my house
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[16:35:08] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/fvAsjnC
[16:36:33] <Tom_itx> i bet he had fun unloading that
[16:36:57] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/UWaJBSO
[16:37:39] <PetefromTn_> honestly he made it look pretty damn easy....I was the one chewing my fingernails LOL
[16:38:43] <PetefromTn_> he actually used the secondary vehicle ram underneath the bed to drag it to the edge of the ramp and had it hanging off the back just enough to get the skids on the concrete
[16:40:10] <PetefromTn_> then he sorta tilted the bed a bit, released the winch a bit, shuttled the bed out from under it slowly, released the winch a bit, and kept jockeying it until most of it was on the concrete.. then he released the winch some more and pulled the truck completely out from underneath it while still controlling the top with the winch
[16:40:20] <PetefromTn_> once it was on the ground completely
[16:40:32] <PetefromTn_> he used that big ram to push the machine way back into the shop,
[16:40:43] <PetefromTn_> then he backed up some more and did it again
[16:40:55] <PetefromTn_> until it was basically where it sits now within a few feet
[16:41:12] <PetefromTn_> guy sure knew how to run that rollback
[16:41:41] <PetefromTn_> I am HOPING for a similar ease to taking it out and unloading it down in Florida
[16:41:54] <PetefromTn_> ASSUMING we pass these inspections and actually close on the house LOL
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[16:41:57] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bfs/5424450063.html "Developed a control problem 15 years ago and has not been in use since." "Was only used for plastic machining."
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[16:42:30] <CaptHindsight> the only thing missing was "the operator was a little old lady that only came in on Sundats"
[16:42:45] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[16:43:08] <CaptHindsight> lotsa rust for a mill thats never used
[16:43:08] <Tom_itx> maybe you should hire the same guy
[16:43:09] <PetefromTn_> yeah we always cut soft cheese on it and cleaned it every time we used it
[16:43:31] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx I wish I could but he is only a local mover.
[16:43:49] <PetefromTn_> besides we gotta move the lathe too...
[16:44:40] <Tom_itx> does he have a brother? :D
[16:45:14] <PetefromTn_> heh why you wanna date? ;)
[16:45:32] <Tom_itx> not with him
[16:45:47] <PetefromTn_> he told me that their trucks are only certified to run local
[16:45:55] <PetefromTn_> or licensed or whatever
[16:46:04] <Tom_itx> so?
[16:46:11] <PetefromTn_> if he gets caught going over certain lines he can get fined big time
[16:46:57] <PetefromTn_> I wish I knew a sexy chick down in Florida I could set him up with to change his mind but I am out of ideas LOL
[16:48:15] <PetefromTn_> I got a bid on my ad on uship from a guy in pennsylvania
[16:49:00] <Tom_itx> http://www.leecontracting.com/?gclid=COW-oM3A1MoCFQ6RaQod-gsBHw
[16:49:05] <Tom_itx> they sound expensive
[16:49:07] <PetefromTn_> he said he has an F350 diesel dually and a tilt bed heavy equipment trailer and said he could move both machines to PSL for around $1700 bucks. Seemed quite reasonable especially if he can load and unload them...
[16:50:02] <Tom_itx> http://www.heavyequipmentmoving.com/
[16:50:50] <archivist> shiftyershit.com
[16:50:54] <Tom_itx> http://www.equipmentshippers.com/
[16:51:32] <PetefromTn_> I already spoke with two PRO riggers and they are crazy what they want to move it...
[16:51:51] <PetefromTn_> I think my best bet will be with these Uship guys
[16:52:09] <archivist> or stay put, its cheaper to not move
[16:52:09] <Tom_itx> doesn't sound too bad really
[16:52:20] <PetefromTn_> no it doesn't really
[16:52:42] <PetefromTn_> if I could get them both into a storage unit safe and sound in PSL for under $2k I would be quite pleased I think
[16:53:45] <PetefromTn_> archivist yeah I am sure it would be...but then I would not be where I want to be in Florida near family and friends enjoying the surf and sand and fishing and seafood etc etc. etc.
[16:54:13] <PetefromTn_> I would still be up here in the icebox freezing my baguettes off ;)
[16:54:47] <Tom_itx> zee's in the icebox
[16:54:48] <Tom_itx> not you
[16:56:47] <Erant> $1700 to move some heavy machinery from TN to FL? Seems reasonable
[16:57:53] <Erant> And he has to come from PA?
[16:58:06] <Tom_itx> yeah, lemme know when it's all loaded and ready and i'll jack the truck and have it rerouted to Ks
[16:59:35] <PetefromTn_> I agree I was pleased with those prices. The one from Pa seemed pretty serious about it and knew what he was talking about it seemed.
[17:00:12] <PetefromTn_> Probably wants to make a trip to Florida and figures he can make money along the way so why the hell not huh
[17:03:57] <Erant> That's a long-ass drive.
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[17:05:51] <Erant> Now that I've got a nice library of stuff set up, this CadQuery thing is starting to get real useful.
[17:06:37] <Erant> "I want a Nema-23 cutout, at offset X in this body" : make_nema23(body.faces(">Z").translate((p_nema23_offset, 0, 0)))
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[17:10:58] <CaptHindsight> Uship is good for the trucking part if you can work out the load and unloading
[17:11:40] <PetefromTn_> well like I said this guys appears to be able to do both...
[17:11:44] <CaptHindsight> I got some really dumb responses from Uship at times asking if the machine could be boxed
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[17:12:09] <archivist> yes, in an effin big box
[17:12:34] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: what will he use for loading?
[17:13:01] <PetefromTn_> http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/this-marine-saw-a-deputy-in-trouble-what-he-did-next-has-people-calling-him-a-hero/ This is an awesome story and the facebook comments on it are freaking HILARIOUS!
[17:13:30] <PetefromTn_> apparently he has a heavy duty hydraulic tilting trailer with a winch on it...
[17:13:37] <CaptHindsight> tilt bed with a winch?
[17:13:45] <PetefromTn_> thats what he said
[17:16:40] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VODfrbLkQA Hydraulic assist Tilt bed trailer getting loaded
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[17:19:08] <t12> lol @ the moustache
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[17:20:18] <PetefromTn_> t12 I know right... Only a real man could pull that off LOL
[17:20:54] <t12> style moustache into ar15
[17:20:55] <CaptHindsight> just don't hire this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwXqWt6FsJY
[17:22:16] <t12> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYi24D9lHqc&t=12s
[17:22:32] <PetefromTn_> man I drove truck for a very short time and I KNOW how hard it can be to get into some of the places drivers need to get into...it REALLY sucks..
[17:23:33] <Erant> CaptHindsight: Couple of 2x4's will make quick work of that :/
[17:27:25] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be/WIy417zSFWk?t=1m21s thats why the other 17 wheels are there
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[17:35:46] <CaptHindsight> there are several youtube videos from truck dash cams of idiot drivers, these don't even come close to the idiots I come across
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[17:36:48] <CaptHindsight> what you need is a dash cam in a small car to really capture idiots
[17:37:23] <PetefromTn_> my experience is that most drivers are very cautious and careful after all it is their livelihood if they screw up they are in BIG trouble both legally and financially...
[17:38:06] <PetefromTn_> as they say there are OLD drivers and there are BOLD drivers but there are no OLD BOLD drivers ;)
[17:38:11] <CaptHindsight> sure truck drivers
[17:38:14] <t12> sf on the other hand
[17:38:29] <t12> someone will flat run you over in an intersection at night in the rain to get 30seconds on a light
[17:38:42] <t12> while running a red
[17:38:51] <CaptHindsight> it's the SUV and minivan drivers that are generally the worst I come across, closely followed by the pickup truck
[17:39:17] <t12> here its bmws and audis and such
[17:39:35] <CaptHindsight> yes, in larger cities
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[17:39:58] <Erant> I ride a motorcycle, minivans are the worst offenders when it comes to trying to merge into you, or just generally not paying attention
[17:40:19] <Erant> Probably because they have kids in the back and are more focused on trying to get them to shut up than whether or not they're about to kill a biker.
[17:41:18] <CaptHindsight> I stopped riding a motorcycle years ago. I have friends that have been hit on every bike they own
[17:42:01] <CaptHindsight> I used to get rear ended at stop lights in my convertible with the top down
[17:43:22] <Erant> CaptHindsight: I've been hit before. Cabbie thought he could make the left in an intersection...
[17:43:39] <Erant> He couldn't.
[17:43:42] <PetefromTn_> hey asshats I drive a minivan!! :(
[17:44:01] <Erant> Do you have whining kids in the back?
[17:44:11] <PetefromTn_> occasionally
[17:44:20] <PetefromTn_> but mostly it is just me trying to get where I am goin'
[17:45:11] <PetefromTn_> I find most of the little cars are driven by the shitheads predominately... they never seem to know where they are going and they always are weaving in and out of traffic etc. etc. etc.
[17:45:29] <Erant> We're also stereotyping. It makes me feel horrible, but the worst offenders are asian moms in minivans.
[17:45:33] <PetefromTn_> always on the phone, texting, doing their makeup, etc.
[17:46:00] <Erant> I hate that I'm stereotyping, but it helps keep me alive on a day-to-day basis, so...
[17:46:08] <PetefromTn_> I honestly love my minivan LOL
[17:46:30] <Tom_itx> Erant, well.. my neighbor across the street pulled into their driveway and took out their neighbor's fence
[17:46:35] <PetefromTn_> have had a couple over the years... best vehicle for moving your stuff around and lots of room for the kids and whatnot
[17:46:39] <Tom_itx> stereotyping?
[17:46:44] <Erant> Tom_itx: How do you even...
[17:46:48] <Erant> O_o
[17:46:54] <Tom_itx> and high centered it
[17:47:05] <zeeshan|2> rofl
[17:47:08] <zeeshan|2> you drive a minivan?!?
[17:47:08] <zeeshan|2> :D
[17:47:09] <Tom_itx> haha
[17:47:12] <zeeshan|2> hahahaha
[17:47:16] <zeeshan|2> sorry :P
[17:47:24] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2 pink mary kay one :D
[17:47:35] <zeeshan|2> "Soccer Dad"
[17:48:32] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2, i can see why it's easier to add fillets etc to the solid
[17:48:33] <PetefromTn_> hell yeah I drive a minivan
[17:48:43] <PetefromTn_> and it is even BROWN!!
[17:48:47] <PetefromTn_> how uncool right
[17:48:56] <PetefromTn_> I mean what a loser!!
[17:49:23] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: you must be the exception, the minvan drivers here might not pass a DNA test at being human
[17:49:35] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/867dOkK.jpg
[17:50:28] <Tom_itx> nla
[17:50:59] <Jymmm> LoserMinivanDrivingPetefromTnForeverAndEverAndEver
[17:51:39] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Um, whats the B&W scuff on the kayak?
[17:52:07] <CaptHindsight> I got stuck with Chrysler minvan for a rental due to a schedule screw up...
[17:52:19] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: zebra riverkill?
[17:52:57] <CaptHindsight> it had 2 modes, 0-95% gas pedal would slowly accelerate you as though you were in a sailboat...
[17:53:39] <Jymmm> and the other mode?
[17:53:41] <CaptHindsight> 96-100% pedal and it would spin the front wheels, I don't know how much tread was on those tires after that weekend
[17:53:50] <Jymmm> lol
[17:54:21] <Erant> don't-wake-the-baby mode and shit-we're-being-mugged-mode.
[17:58:25] <Jymmm> s/mugged/left the iron-oven on/
[17:59:07] <nos> http://awo.aws.org/category/podcast/
[17:59:57] <CaptHindsight> just noticed that it's 46F outside, going out
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[18:00:14] <Jymmm> 34F and sunny
[18:01:00] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: has your snow cover melted?
[18:01:11] <miss0r> I am realy having a hard time figuering out how fast (feed/speed) I should run my newly made fly cutter... I have read a bit about it online, but I was hoping to find a calculator, as this has a variable diameter. Do you guys have any hints?
[18:01:40] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: No snow for a while just has been NON STOP RAIN for days lately
[18:02:02] <Jymmm> Solutions for Welding Zinc Coated Steels http://awo.aws.org/2015/02/solutions-for-welding-zinc-coated-steels/
[18:03:00] <CaptHindsight> miss0r: probably slower
[18:03:07] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Just call me Noah, they had been lining up outside two by two
[18:03:33] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: at the moment I am running at 178 rpm. feed at 20mm/min
[18:03:36] <CaptHindsight> miss0r: use the outside diameter of the cutter and start from there
[18:04:04] <miss0r> indeed. but I can't seem to find the reccomended chip load for the inserts I am using
[18:04:07] <CaptHindsight> whats the diameter and depth of cut?
[18:04:09] <archivist> noise and finish is a good indicator
[18:04:33] <CaptHindsight> what material is being cut?
[18:05:22] <miss0r> at the moment the diameter is 164mm and the depth of cut is 0.06mm.
[18:05:28] <miss0r> I am cutting low carbon steel
[18:05:33] <CaptHindsight> when the inserts break and the spindle stalls you got too greedy
[18:05:52] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: on a 5hp spindle - so I hope it won't come to that ;)
[18:05:55] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Adamantium
[18:06:52] <miss0r> when I finish a pass of the surface it looks like it was precision ground. but I was hoping for something a bit more mirror like
[18:07:33] <miss0r> the surface finish is leveled within 0.001mm. and it feels good to the touch. but still not a mirror
[18:08:37] <_methods> you usually need to precision grind something to make it look like it was precision ground
[18:08:40] <_methods> lol
[18:08:49] <miss0r> so my tram is very good it seems. I just want something shiny! :)
[18:09:30] <miss0r> _methods: it has the same surface-look. not quite a mirror finish but very leveled
[18:10:33] <miss0r> also: when using carbide inserts - shouldent the cutaway be blueish of color?
[18:10:49] <miss0r> or does that not go for fly-cutters?
[18:11:15] <_methods> it just depends on the material and the size of the chip
[18:11:42] <CaptHindsight> thanks Jymmm, now it's raining here
[18:11:44] <miss0r> well - chip is very small/thin.
[18:11:46] <_methods> at .06mm depth of cut i doubt you're getting much of a chip
[18:12:14] <_methods> that's probably not even the radius of your insert
[18:12:21] <miss0r> just being carefull with my new machine here :) I just got it in here last week.
[18:12:25] <_methods> tool nose radius that is
[18:12:34] <zeeshan|2> miss0r: which insert are you using
[18:12:46] <miss0r> althou the nose radius is quite small, I think you are correct ;)
[18:12:49] <_methods> hehe don't want to break the new toy on the first day
[18:12:51] <CaptHindsight> 6.7" on the OD of his fly cutter
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[18:13:06] <miss0r> zeeshan|2: ARNO TPMR 110304 EN "AM35C"
[18:13:27] <zeeshan|2> ah triangle insert
[18:13:40] <zeeshan|2> posotive rake
[18:13:41] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Sorry man, it's still sunny here, but it was yesterday morning too then did a sneak-attack in the evening.
[18:13:43] <miss0r> indeed. I used a 'bore' tool holder for the job.
[18:13:52] <miss0r> it was what I had laying around
[18:14:15] <zeeshan|2> 0.4mm nose radius :)
[18:14:40] <zeeshan|2> but usually for carbide, cutting edge radius is like 0.025 mm
[18:15:17] <zeeshan|2> so that should tell you your min chip load
[18:16:02] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNkPCtkM80
[18:16:20] <CaptHindsight> Fly Cutter Cutting a Mirror Finish on a 9"W x 18.5"L HRS plate in one pass
[18:17:06] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: i've seen it. and I have also druled about it.
[18:17:20] <miss0r> zeeshan|2: Yeah. I need to read more about it :)
[18:17:56] <zeeshan|2> one you know feed you can figure out the surface finish
[18:18:09] <CaptHindsight> so they are at 0.025mm depth vs your 0.06mm
[18:18:11] <zeeshan|2> theoretically its R_t = f^2/(8R_n)
[18:18:14] <zeeshan|2> R_n = nose radius
[18:18:19] <miss0r> also, only an idiot like me would stand in line of fire wearing a sweater... all the cutoff just sticks to me like a magnet
[18:18:24] <zeeshan|2> R_t = max roughness = ~ 4-7 R_a
[18:18:32] <zeeshan|2> f = chipload
[18:19:22] <miss0r> the max roughness... erh... what number is that?
[18:20:05] <CaptHindsight> so if you are taking too much out your surface will be rougher than if you take less
[18:21:15] <zeeshan|2> its hard to explain over text
[18:21:19] <zeeshan|2> but let me take a ss of my notes
[18:21:31] <miss0r> indeed. I will look up this formula online and get a bit wiser :)
[18:21:50] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/yMNOLsg.png
[18:22:02] <zeeshan|2> that should make it pretty clear :P
[18:22:10] <CaptHindsight> if you increase your feedrate and keep the rest the same it will start to look like a vinyl record
[18:22:10] <miss0r> indeed. thank you :)
[18:22:23] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: goes without say ;)
[18:22:45] <zeeshan|2> this formula will also tell you
[18:22:45] <zeeshan|2> that you cant get better finishes than grinding :P
[18:22:47] <zeeshan|2> or lapping!
[18:23:08] <miss0r> indeed. I don't have a surface grinder here - So I will have to make do
[18:23:41] <CaptHindsight> is that what Lap dogs are for?
[18:24:25] <zeeshan|2> lap dogs sit on your lap
[18:24:59] <CaptHindsight> "Fly cutters for your gin mill"
[18:31:40] <CaptHindsight> who has a 200V VFD >1KW that has settings to control the ramp (accel/decel)?
[18:32:19] <CaptHindsight> 220V 400Hz
[18:33:00] <cpresser> CaptHindsight: i have one of those chinese huayang devices
[18:33:11] <miss0r> heh. you know what makes me sad? i've found alot of nice VFDs in the us for sale. but here we have 400 volts between the phases. which is nice in some ways. but not for importing things from "over there"
[18:33:25] <cpresser> "huanyang"
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[18:33:41] <_methods> wangdong
[18:34:00] <CaptHindsight> _methods: I think they ticket for that
[18:34:12] <_methods> hahah
[18:34:18] <Jymmm> _methods: Your KungFu is no good<lip sync delayed>
[18:34:28] <miss0r> damnit... it gives a pretty sweet finish at 224 rpm/ 11mm/sec feed. problem is: 234 mm of surface takes forever :)
[18:34:33] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-spindle/1-5kw-vfd-spindle-inverter-kl-vfd15
[18:34:37] <CaptHindsight> no name
[18:35:13] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Must be a WangDongFun!
[18:37:03] <CaptHindsight> cpresser: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3KW-110V-VARIABLE-FREQUENCY-DRIVE-INVERTER-VFD-4HP-13A-HUANYANG-CNC-/252107466462
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[18:38:49] <Erant> One more plate and I can convert my Z-axis to this ballscrew.
[18:39:51] <CaptHindsight> looks like Automation Technologies has the huanyang or a good copy
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[18:49:50] <_methods> i need to make a company called austin powers technologies
[18:49:59] <_methods> sell sharks with laser beams
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[18:51:12] <Kucharsky> Hi there, do you guys know of any syntax coloring plugin for gedit?
[18:51:34] <Kucharsky> I mean gcode code syntax highlighter
[18:51:35] <Kucharsky> ?
[18:55:08] <_methods> isn't syntax highlightin in gedit by default?
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[19:04:25] <miss0r> it seems the first 5-6cm of the workpeice is mirror finish. then the carbide insert wears out and it starts looking a bit foggy in the surface - in orher words: am I too hard on it?
[19:05:03] <cpresser> CaptHindsight: yep, those liik quite similar
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[19:05:34] <Kucharsky> methods it does not seem to work this way
[19:09:48] <_methods> oh gcode
[19:10:10] <_methods> i only know of paid gcode syntax highliters
[19:13:36] <archivist> you can edit the the highlighting
[19:14:10] <Tom_itx> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/linuxcnc-formerly-emc2-/123257-gtksourceview-2-0-gedit-gcode-syntax-coloring.html
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[19:15:10] <Tom_itx> http://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80
[19:15:32] <archivist> and http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Highlighting_In_Gedit
[19:15:48] <Tom_itx> 2nd link mentions that
[19:15:55] <_methods> i've just use cimco
[19:16:10] <Tom_itx> i just use black and white
[19:16:59] <_methods> cimco has a nice backplot function so if you're tryin to figure out what some random gcode file is it can be helpful
[19:20:31] <Kucharsky> Thank you guys for help
[19:21:01] <Kucharsky> _methods: is cimco editor expensive?
[19:21:28] <Kucharsky> _methods: does it work on linux?
[19:23:16] <_methods> it's expensive and it works in wine
[19:23:22] <_methods> but not native
[19:23:42] <Erant> Sublime text has a highlighter: https://github.com/themachinist/gcode-syntax-highlighting
[19:24:03] <Erant> And - of course - vim has one: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=4910
[19:24:14] <_methods> ah cool i'll have to try that sublime one
[19:24:30] <_methods> i use sublime for most stuff nowadays
[19:24:59] <Erant> emacs undoubtably has one, but I don't particularly feel like touching emacs with a 10ft pole.
[19:25:02] <Erant> So
[19:25:12] <_methods> i rarely use cimco unless i need the backplot
[19:25:24] <_methods> but linuxcnc with axis simulation should do the same thing
[19:27:10] <_methods> or to drip feed something
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[19:32:40] <_methods> http://www.cimco.com/download.php3
[19:32:53] <_methods> they have a free feed and speed calculator program on there
[19:33:01] <_methods> i've never tried it before
[19:33:19] <_methods> i guess you can use their stuff free for a month too if you just want to test it out
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[19:55:49] <Kucharsky> I'm trying out sublime
[19:56:08] <Kucharsky> never used this editor befor but looks awsome at first glance
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[20:26:39] <Kucharsky> Hey folks, I'am editing demo linuxcnc ini file (axis.ini) For some reason in ini file for axis Z there is this comment for value MAX_LIMIT (how deep down my tool can go)
[20:27:11] <Kucharsky> # Normally the Z max should be 0.000!
[20:27:11] <Kucharsky> # The only reason it's greater than 0 here is so that the splash screen
[20:27:11] <Kucharsky> # gcode will run.
[20:27:11] <Kucharsky>
[20:28:13] <Kucharsky> But when I try to run sample program "3d chips.ngc" program start from -27 coordinate on Z and axis says it will not run this program
[20:28:45] <Kucharsky> I'm puzzled
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[20:32:07] <lv-esad> hi there
[20:32:07] <Kucharsky> Sorry I ment Z max is 0 but program wants to go to z = 10
[20:32:49] <Kucharsky> how do I run this program when It's forbiddent in config to set Z_MAX > 0
[20:32:50] <lv-esad> is there anyone with a chinese lasercutter cnc ?
[20:32:51] <Kucharsky> ?
[20:34:21] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: it's hailing
[20:37:09] <os1r1s> Kucharsky Wouldn't you need min_limit to be < -27?
[20:39:14] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, pea size or basketball size?
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[21:32:08] <JT-Shop> 640 miles was a long way to go for shrimp and grits but it was good
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[21:55:53] <Kucharsky> os1r1s: yeah, sorry I phrased my question wrong
[21:56:31] <Kucharsky> os1r1s: what I ment is program goes to Z=10 and max Z i settings i 0 and not allowed more
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[21:57:41] <Kucharsky> i gues the only way is to set offsets so that e.g z=-20 becomes 0
[21:58:02] <Kucharsky> I'm new to this stuff, trying to figure it out by mysefl
[22:00:04] <JT-Shop> Kucharsky: http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html
[22:08:49] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: Thank you. I'm in the process of reading L.cnc documentation. There is a section on programming there but It's not straightfoward for begginer like me
[22:09:43] <Kucharsky> JT-Shop: I was thinking on reading sth. more tutorialish ;) Thanks
[22:11:38] <JT-Shop> that's why I wrote the tutorial to complement the documents
[22:20:01] <PetefromTn_> well just ordered four Maritool variable flute EM's for this steel plate since I just snapped another one LOL. 2nd day air hopefully they get here by tuesday along with the other engraving cutters I ordered from BitsandBits.com LOL
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[22:30:37] <PetefromTn_> never been there. Been to Pulaski tho...
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[22:39:18] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/DFBk3Mr.jpg :D
[22:40:29] <jthornton> how the heck do you weld that?
[22:42:35] <MrSunshine> ough someone got their welding cut out for them ...
[22:42:37] <PetefromTn_> VERY carefully ;)
[22:42:57] <PetefromTn_> actually the way I am going to do it is
[22:43:15] <PetefromTn_> take a single runner from the manifold plate to the merge off,
[22:43:31] <PetefromTn_> polish the snot out of the entire run and tack it more if necessary
[22:43:44] <PetefromTn_> then plug and back purge that runner
[22:43:51] <PetefromTn_> then tack it back in place
[22:43:57] <PetefromTn_> remove the next one
[22:44:00] <PetefromTn_> and so forth
[22:44:02] <PetefromTn_> and so on
[22:44:23] <jthornton> wow that has got to be a pain
[22:44:44] <PetefromTn_> honestly the hardest part is the polishing
[22:44:45] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: cats and dogs here now, some look on fire, could be wrong :)
[22:45:09] <PetefromTn_> but since this is the very first one a prototype we had to figure out where everything would fit...
[22:45:54] <jthornton> are you going to weld the places that are hard to get to before you put the runner back?
[22:46:35] <PetefromTn_> like I said I will Tig weld the entire runner each joint all the way around and then put it back in place and tack it there...
[22:46:50] <jthornton> ah I missed that part
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[22:46:52] <PetefromTn_> then once all three are back in place Tig weld the flange and the merge
[22:47:00] <PetefromTn_> do you guys like it?
[22:47:07] <jthornton> it's sweet
[22:47:16] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/QxvrOMl.jpg
[22:47:29] <PetefromTn_> this is a mock up in the car with the three rotor motor in position
[22:47:37] <jthornton> I can really appreciate the effort that goes into something like that
[22:47:49] <PetefromTn_> its not simple LOL
[22:48:18] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/aIHuK2K.jpg and with the Borg Warner in position..
[22:48:22] <jthornton> I know
[22:49:40] <PetefromTn_> it also still needs to be completely polished, tig welded, we also have to add the wastgate tubes and locate them, then once the manifold is complete we will need to make the downpipe and the rest of the intake tubing...
[22:49:58] <PetefromTn_> quite a bit of work getting the complete system mocked up and working
[22:50:06] <jthornton> what is it for?
[22:50:10] <PetefromTn_> then we get to make the smae thing again and again...
[22:50:23] <PetefromTn_> its for that car and a couple others...
[22:50:51] <PetefromTn_> there are three 3 rotor builds going on at the shop right now and another one that is supposed to be finish the kit and mail it to the customer for them to install...
[22:51:59] <PetefromTn_> I just thought it looked kinda cool all twisty and turny like that and I figured you guys might appreciate it... All the flat flanges I machined on my Cincinatti Arrow 500 VMC with LinuxCNC!
[22:52:01] <jthornton> so custom work
[22:52:26] <jthornton> dang I have 1.5 GB of band width to use tonight
[22:53:14] <PetefromTn_> yeah its custom they don't come with the 20B motor and all of this is sorta custom altho it is not new. The design of mine is new but this setup of motor, turbo,car has been done quite a few times...
[22:55:00] <jthornton> what kind of car is it?
[22:55:31] <PetefromTn_> its for an RX7 FD
[22:56:52] <PetefromTn_> http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/v16hakd5mftbqt8epgly.jpg Goes in something like this...
[22:58:01] <jthornton> cool, is the 3 rotor engine a kit?
[22:58:04] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Fire Roasted from the sky!!! Got coleslaw?
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[22:59:30] <PetefromTn_> no not a kit really... the 20B motor came in a sedan mazda made in Japan and a few other vehicles but never in the RX7 that I am aware of. It takes custom motor mounts and a custom oil pan setup to clear the subframe crossmember and a few other things along with the turbo manifold stuff etc.
[22:59:55] <jthornton> ah a graft from another car
[23:00:02] <jthornton> that makes more sense
[23:00:07] <PetefromTn_> yeah basically
[23:00:29] <PetefromTn_> they sure sound amazing and can make a bunch of HP pretty effortlessly.
[23:01:17] <PetefromTn_> they have one that was built previously in the shop now that runs and it sounds amazing and it is not even really a built motor. Just has a street port and single turbo setup. Still made like 750hp apparently...
[23:01:47] <jthornton> holy crap batman that's a bunch of power for a small car
[23:02:06] <PetefromTn_> yeah I think so too LOL
[23:02:39] <PetefromTn_> but the ones they are building now should be considerably more powerful with bridgeports and bigger turbos, larger diameter tubing etc. etc...
[23:03:19] <PetefromTn_> do you think the tubes flow well?
[23:03:28] <PetefromTn_> I mean aesthetically
[23:03:52] <jthornton> from what I see yes they will look like a snake wrapped around more snakes
[23:04:00] <jthornton> very cool
[23:04:30] <zeeshan-mill> la la la
[23:04:38] <zeeshan-mill> someone operate this machine
[23:04:47] <PetefromTn_> this one was my own idea and I was not sure if other people would feel that way about it. I think it looks pretty cool but its nice to get others opinions...
[23:05:50] <jthornton> the mock up photo looks the coolest and that is what you would see when you pop the hood
[23:05:57] <zeeshan-mill> damnit i cant open your links pete
[23:05:59] <zeeshan-mill> machine runnin
[23:06:07] <PetefromTn_> oh sorry LOL
[23:06:28] <zeeshan-mill> i want to see
[23:06:29] <PetefromTn_> its the 3 rotor turbo manifold I have been designing and building over at the race shop
[23:06:40] <zeeshan-mill> nice!!
[23:06:44] <zeeshan-mill> for what turbo
[23:06:57] <PetefromTn_> Borg Warner
[23:07:05] <zeeshan-mill> s452?
[23:07:08] <zeeshan-mill> or whatever its called
[23:07:09] <PetefromTn_> it will fit EFR
[23:07:16] <zeeshan-mill> ah
[23:07:19] <PetefromTn_> internal wastegate
[23:07:31] <PetefromTn_> but this particular one will have external WG's
[23:07:42] <PetefromTn_> somewhere wherever we can stick them anyway LOL
[23:07:53] <PetefromTn_> can you see it then?
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[23:29:37] <jthornton> I should learn how to make a hybrid install of Linux Mint with LinuxCNC
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[23:33:43] <Tom_itx> are we all having fun this evening?
[23:34:37] <PetefromTn_> meh not really I am kinda stressed the hell out over all of this moving and finishing stuff around here ;)
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[23:35:30] <Tom_itx> i was gonna write some code but after updating some i've about had it
[23:36:06] <Tom_itx> not gcode.. other stuff
[23:36:12] <jthornton> I'm building a new J1900 for the BP
[23:36:52] <Tom_itx> nice
[23:37:06] <jthornton> had a full day a bit of the Natchez Trace Parkway ride and back country
[23:37:08] <Tom_itx> i'm running a couple of those here
[23:37:12] <Tom_itx> win7 on em for now
[23:37:31] <jthornton> blew my mind when the usb keyboard didn't work
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[23:38:05] <jthornton> well it didn't boot up nice...
[23:39:22] <jthornton> jibberish on the screen
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[23:40:04] <Tom_itx> i booted 10.04 up on one once but really didn't run the mill with it alot
[23:40:28] <jthornton> do you recall how to get to the boot menu?
[23:40:48] <Tom_itx> not for sure
[23:40:55] <Tom_itx> maybe you his esc while it's coming up?
[23:41:06] <Tom_itx> i can't remember
[23:42:14] <jthornton> shift
[23:43:53] <jthornton> LOL still wondering where my solder station is...
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[23:49:04] <Frank__> helloes
[23:49:31] <Frank__> anyone running heavy cnc router?
[23:51:15] <membiblio> Frank - a heavy router or something called heavy cnc?
[23:51:20] <membiblio> heavy.. :)
[23:51:30] <membiblio> not i
[23:51:42] <jthornton> I used to be heavy but now I'm not
[23:52:00] <Frank__> cuz i want some info on good z axis for wood
[23:52:03] <membiblio> they look nice
[23:52:10] <Frank__> i dont know if i should go with steel or alum
[23:52:29] <Frank__> my gantry is going to weight with z axis on about 150kg or more
[23:52:39] <Frank__> for 1.3mts
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