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[00:00:01] <zeeshan|2> which for me is rarely ever the case
[00:00:07] <zeeshan|2> cause the machine will be 2d profiling anyway
[00:00:09] <__rob> JT-Shop, can you see images ?
[00:00:10] <JT-Shop> and your correct you don't always need a square block just depends on the part
[00:00:15] <__rob> so if I screenshot
[00:00:25] <zeeshan|2> rob post some pics of wha tyoure makin
[00:00:47] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/y6dJ0I2.jpg
[00:00:49] <zeeshan|2> when i was doing this part
[00:00:56] <JT-Shop> often I have to make parts square then add some features to that
[00:00:59] <zeeshan|2> the only 2 surfaces that were parallel to each other were the ones that the vise jaw saw
[00:01:01] <__rob> JT-Shop:
http://i.snag.gy/5n1ih.jpg
[00:01:02] <zeeshan|2> the bottom, top
[00:01:05] <zeeshan|2> everything was out of square
[00:01:07] <__rob> this is the bit that I am confused about with your method
[00:01:22] <__rob> without squaring, how these ends are perpendicular to the other sides
[00:01:33] <__rob> the part can just spin around or sit based on the sawn face on the parallel
[00:01:54] <JT-Shop> using a machinist square won't work if you need precise
[00:02:11] <JT-Shop> nice part
[00:02:18] <zeeshan|2> just leave 1/8 " extra
[00:02:20] <zeeshan|2> and you can eyeball it
[00:02:20] <zeeshan|2> haha
[00:02:31] <zeeshan|2> thanks man
[00:02:35] <zeeshan|2> it was a royal pain
[00:02:42] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/R2XmOQu.jpg
[00:02:44] <zeeshan|2> thats what it ende dup being
[00:02:46] <zeeshan|2> not perfect
[00:02:48] <zeeshan|2> but within tolerance
[00:03:04] <JT-Shop> that's all that matters in the end
[00:03:11] <__rob> JT-Shop, so your method will be accurate your saying ?
[00:03:36] <JT-Shop> it's not my method it is a standard method of machining
[00:03:40] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[00:03:44] <__rob> no I know, the method you presented I mean
[00:03:54] <JT-Shop> yes it is very accurate
[00:04:07] <zeeshan|2> these methods all work
[00:04:19] <zeeshan|2> time, and amount of material wasted in machining is the variable
[00:04:25] <__rob> just cant see how all 6 sides would be square
[00:04:32] <__rob> once you have 4 sides all done
[00:04:37] <__rob> then your always going to have 2 sawn faces
[00:04:45] <__rob> that your setting up against
[00:04:47] <__rob> to do the other side
[00:04:51] <JT-Shop> nope read the link again
[00:05:15] <JT-Shop> read outside of you box
[00:05:19] <JT-Shop> your
[00:05:30] <zeeshan|2> step by step
[00:05:42] <zeeshan|2> step 1, mount random chunk in vise and machine top surface flat. this is surface #1
[00:05:49] <zeeshan|2> when you now put surface #1 against the vise jaw
[00:05:53] <zeeshan|2> it'll sit square to the vise
[00:06:00] <zeeshan|2> if your vis eis good
[00:06:01] <JT-Shop> yep
[00:06:16] <zeeshan|2> the main problem is gripping will be uneven so thats why people use like aluminum tig rod or something
[00:06:20] <zeeshan|2> electrical tape :P
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[00:06:35] <zeeshan|2> if you can see how that work, i think the rest of the steps work by themself
[00:07:31] <zeeshan|2> i luv tom's techniques
[00:07:36] <zeeshan|2> without his flycutter series
[00:07:41] <zeeshan|2> id be a noob
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[00:10:24] <__rob> "This face is perpendicular to the other faces only on the edge."
[00:10:27] <__rob> what does that mean
[00:10:34] <CaptHindsight> copper wire also works with uneven material
[00:10:35] <__rob> the face is either perpendicular or not
[00:11:55] <zeeshan|2> __rob: machinist course night school :P
[00:12:11] <zeeshan|2> or just mess around in the shop
[00:13:31] <__rob> think I can see how it works
[00:13:40] <__rob> wasn't clear that machined faces get machined again
[00:13:48] <__rob> thats what I was missing
[00:15:09] <__rob> like reading the solution to a brain teaser
[00:15:13] <JT-Shop> yea one face gets machines twice
[00:15:16] <__rob> sketching it out with the axis helps
[00:15:28] <JT-Shop> I put a mark on it so I don't machine the wrong side
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[00:24:12] <__rob> yup, the flip and rotate is the crux of it, then the second facing step is obvious
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[00:27:49] * JT-Shop listens to Rush
[00:32:15] <PetefromTn_> Rush the band or Rush the radio personality ;)
[00:32:29] <zeeshan|2> pete isnt it packing time!
[00:32:39] <PetefromTn_> nope
[00:32:43] <PetefromTn_> not yet anyway
[00:32:50] <PetefromTn_> tomorrow is the home inspection
[00:33:01] <zeeshan|2> should be ok?
[00:33:12] <PetefromTn_> just paid an AC guy to come over and check out my unit to make sure everything is okay with it
[00:33:19] <PetefromTn_> better damn well be okay LOL
[00:33:34] <PetefromTn_> been working on this Beotch for 8 years now LOL
[00:34:21] <zeeshan|2> i remember the custom duct
[00:34:22] <zeeshan|2> you were makin
[00:34:53] <PetefromTn_> yeah it came out great thanks man!
[00:35:50] <PetefromTn_> man that 3 rotor manifold design is coming along nicely ;)
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[00:47:28] <bobo__> Hay Pete saw this and thought it might be of some use to you in the new search " point2homes.com" as opposed to zillow.com
[00:47:50] <PetefromTn_> heh zillow does kinda suck azz ;)
[00:48:05] <PetefromTn_> we are using Realtor dot com and a few others too.
[00:48:32] <PetefromTn_> My mother is down there right now looking for me too and she is REALLY good at picking houses LOL She has like four now hehe
[00:49:24] <PetefromTn_> ssi ya there man?
[00:49:36] <bobo__> zillow still is a usefull link, just not as good as your mom though
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[00:50:56] <PetefromTn_> she actually found a nice one already but she said there are quite a few foreclosures available but you gotta have cash in hand to bid on them so we would have to wait for closing
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[00:58:22] <bobo__> zeeshan|2: did you get the note ?
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/machinery-for-sale-or-wanted/fs-small-swedish-abarboga-radial-arm-drill-1000us-ontario-canada-314360/
[00:59:09] <bobo__> he also is selling a Hermle mill
[01:02:15] <bobo__> zeeshan any chance you might wander over there with a camera and photo the Hermle mill ?
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[01:09:12] <bobo__> Pete have heard of using a "Bridge loan" for house moving $, but seemed to be a good way to get streached very thin as far as finances go.
[01:10:16] <PetefromTn_> we got it covered I think..
[01:10:49] <PetefromTn_> just hoping the home inspection goes well and we can get this deal sealed for certain. We have a signed contract already tho
[01:12:14] <bobo__> Pete your finances are really not my business. just throwing out a possible
[01:13:35] <PetefromTn_> Well I don't mean to post my business in here anyway but you guys are so helpful with ideas LOL
[01:15:01] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/xBGoJam.jpg Pretty sweet hydro dipped LSX intake and other parts in the shop today. I liked it!
[01:16:07] <_methods> is that your miata
[01:16:08] <_methods> lol
[01:16:16] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/3QO92Qu close up
[01:16:25] <PetefromTn_> no its in a GTO actually LOL
[01:16:32] <_methods> heheh
[01:16:35] <PetefromTn_> I don't have a miata....but I would!!
[01:17:25] <_methods> you got work lined up when you get back to fl?
[01:17:25] <bobo__> Pete so after the home inspection is the start of the real RUSH . might pre apologize to the better half before hand
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[01:18:24] <_methods> finally got the welder in the garage, i don't need pics lol
[01:18:36] <PetefromTn_> well I honestly don't have any work lined up in florida but I have a lot of CNC work that is not local that I will be doing. I also HOPE to be doing some more fabrication and tig welding work like I am doing here..
[01:18:41] <_methods> i don't know where i saw that crazy block, or thought i saw it
[01:18:56] <PetefromTn_> OOHHH damn I forgot to take that pic..
[01:19:00] <PetefromTn_> I am sorry man
[01:19:08] <_methods> but it's nothing but gas,water,ground and power
[01:19:10] <_methods> pretty simple
[01:19:13] <PetefromTn_> hang on I MAY have a picture of the welder here
[01:19:21] <PetefromTn_> yeah it is pretty simple stuff really
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[01:19:25] <_methods> nah it's cool i finally have it here at the house to look at
[01:19:26] <_methods> yeah
[01:19:42] <PetefromTn_> I think yours is different than mine anyway
[01:19:54] <_methods> i had it stuck in a connex and wasn't able to look at it
[01:19:55] <PetefromTn_> yours has a couple features mine does not from what I recall...
[01:20:01] <_methods> i'll take a pic one sec
[01:21:47] <PetefromTn_> anyone interested to see that 3 rotor manifold I am working on? It is not complete but getting there..
[01:23:06] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/u51yga9g2r1fbwb/2016-01-27%2020.20.31.jpg?dl=0
[01:23:24] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dekqqcrbozuscd/2016-01-27%2020.20.39.jpg?dl=0
[01:23:39] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ap9dsjf0r14h9d1/2016-01-27%2020.20.48.jpg?dl=0
[01:24:32] <_methods> same as yours?
[01:25:01] <PetefromTn_> no not at all
[01:25:06] <PetefromTn_> yours looks a lot nicer ;)
[01:25:12] <_methods> hahah
[01:25:15] <_methods> really?
[01:25:16] <PetefromTn_> and it is quite different
[01:25:22] <_methods> i'm gonna send the panels out to get powdercoated
[01:25:29] <_methods> they look like dog poo
[01:25:32] <PetefromTn_> yeah mine is a great machine but it has few features
[01:26:01] <PetefromTn_> I honestly care more about how it works than how it looks....mine WORKS great...very smooth and powerful
[01:26:24] <_methods> well i won't care until i know it's working good
[01:26:28] <_methods> then i'll clean it up some
[01:27:01] <_methods> i get stuff powdercoated for free so i don't really care
[01:27:24] <Jymmm> _methods: Well, aint we special!
[01:27:26] <PetefromTn_> looks pretty good already
[01:27:49] <_methods> well it's not free i'll just end up makin parts for the powdercoaters lol
[01:28:17] <PetefromTn_> if it were mine and I wanted to clean it up I would probably just redo the side and top covers and just really clean up the control area and leave it
[01:28:27] <_methods> but usually if i tell them to just shoot with whatever is in the gun they don't charge me
[01:28:38] <_methods> yeah that's what i'm gonna do
[01:28:44] <Sync> you'll get pink with flakes
[01:28:44] <PetefromTn_> yeah the powder is pretty cheap overall
[01:28:56] <_methods> side panels and top panels and the grills by the power/ground
[01:29:10] <_methods> heheh pink wrinkle
[01:29:13] <Jymmm> _methods: Expect a container on your driveway in the next 24 hours
[01:29:19] <_methods> heheh
[01:29:44] <PetefromTn_> what'd you pay for that thing again?
[01:29:57] <Sync> oh wrinkle powder is pretty awesome
[01:29:57] <_methods> well depends on what i get for the welder power supply
[01:30:08] <_methods> i got that and a mig power supply for $400
[01:30:26] <_methods> so if i can sell the mig power supply for $200 or get that much in scrap
[01:30:27] <PetefromTn_> yeah that's a steal...
[01:30:29] <_methods> i paid about $200
[01:30:40] <PetefromTn_> I paid over a grand for mine
[01:30:47] <_methods> i see them for that much
[01:30:49] <PetefromTn_> probably paid too much
[01:30:54] <_methods> i couldn't pass it up at $400
[01:31:02] <PetefromTn_> but the guy I bought it from let me make some payments so I could not pass it up.
[01:31:04] <_methods> even if i only get $50 for the other rig
[01:31:32] <_methods> i'm too lazy to scrap out the transformers on it
[01:31:42] <PetefromTn_> I would not mind having one like that or perhaps an even newer model with pulsing etc.
[01:31:51] <_methods> so if it doesn't sell in a couple weeks i'll just take it to the scrap yard and see what they'll give me
[01:32:09] <PetefromTn_> the kicker is that my L-tec works so good I can't see getting another one except for just a backup..
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[01:32:29] <PetefromTn_> so I don't want to spend a bunch of cash on it...
[01:32:31] <_methods> well i heard they were good machines
[01:32:36] <_methods> and the price was right
[01:32:41] <PetefromTn_> its old
[01:32:47] <PetefromTn_> but it is built to last awhile
[01:32:57] <PetefromTn_> everything is extra heavy duty
[01:32:58] <_methods> yeah i like the looks of the components inside
[01:33:01] <_methods> nice and simple
[01:33:07] <_methods> no complicated control boards
[01:33:17] <PetefromTn_> no its pretty simple really....
[01:33:30] <PetefromTn_> mine is VERY heavy as I am sure yours is as well
[01:33:34] <_methods> yeah lol
[01:33:42] <_methods> had to use and engine hoist to get it out of my trukc
[01:33:45] <_methods> truck even
[01:33:46] <PetefromTn_> I am really glad it is on wheels or it would be a bitch
[01:34:05] <PetefromTn_> does yours have the big top loop for hoisting with a crane?
[01:34:09] <_methods> i need to make a bottle holder on the side of my cart
[01:34:14] <_methods> yeah it has lifting eye
[01:34:26] <PetefromTn_> yours does not have the bottle caddy on the back?
[01:34:42] <_methods> nah no cart
[01:34:44] <_methods> it's on skids
[01:34:48] <_methods> i had to make a cart for it
[01:34:54] <PetefromTn_> oh okay
[01:35:15] <PetefromTn_> mine IS its own cart and the back of it has the big bottle caddy built into the unit
[01:35:29] <_methods> yeah i need to add bottle caddy to mine
[01:35:41] <_methods> i forgot about that when i was welding the cart up
[01:35:59] <_methods> i guess i'll add a hose/wire hanger to it too
[01:37:05] <PetefromTn_> yeah mine has a handle on the front that I wrap the hose and wires around and I set the foot control on top of it. it also has another little hook on top that someone made for it that holds my helmet
[01:38:02] <PetefromTn_> it also came with a LOONNNGG set of cables I can reach almost all the way across their shop over there to weld on the cars on the lifts when I need to.
[01:38:22] <_methods> yeah i only got 25' leads
[01:38:43] <PetefromTn_> thats not bad either
[01:38:57] <PetefromTn_> I don't really know how long mine are
[01:39:02] <_methods> nah it should work for most stuff
[01:39:04] <PetefromTn_> did you order a torch yet?
[01:39:09] <_methods> yeah
[01:39:15] <PetefromTn_> sweet
[01:39:15] <_methods> i got the wp-17f
[01:39:20] <_methods> i'll try it out
[01:39:22] <PetefromTn_> I hope you like it
[01:39:34] <_methods> i might get a wp-9
[01:39:49] <_methods> i'll see how i like the 17 first though
[01:39:52] <PetefromTn_> I like mine it does not really get hot unless I am really burning stuff for very long periods and even then it is not bad.
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[01:40:22] <_methods> well i'll try and score a water cooler at an auction
[01:40:32] <_methods> sooner or later i'll find one for cheap
[01:40:50] <PetefromTn_> I have thought of buying or making one but as I said I have never reached a point where I thought I would need one...
[01:41:00] <_methods> i don't really need one so i won't be tempted to buy one for stupid money
[01:41:12] <PetefromTn_> maybe if I worked on a line or something where I was CONSTANTLY welding
[01:41:17] <_methods> yeah
[01:41:32] <_methods> how long does a tank last you?
[01:41:35] <PetefromTn_> the vast majority of my day is spent fitting parts and tacking them
[01:41:36] <_methods> you using a 300
[01:41:54] <PetefromTn_> I have the big tank yeah 3oo or 330 I think it is called
[01:42:17] <PetefromTn_> it lasts a good while even over there welding daily it lasts several weeks
[01:42:17] <_methods> yeah that's what i got
[01:42:29] <_methods> ah good deal
[01:42:40] <_methods> i was worried the gas cooled would blow thru tanks
[01:42:44] <PetefromTn_> the constant back purging eats some tho..
[01:42:54] <_methods> refill is only like $30 so it's not that big a deal
[01:43:04] <PetefromTn_> shit I wish I paid that..
[01:43:05] <_methods> but i don't want to be draggin tanks around all the time
[01:43:08] <Duc> _methods: what do you use for sharpening your tungsten
[01:43:08] <_methods> really?
[01:43:14] <_methods> no idea yeat lol
[01:43:18] <_methods> i have a grinder
[01:43:24] <_methods> probably use that and a drill
[01:43:47] <Duc> Been trying to justify a tungsten grinder. The hand held units
[01:43:53] <PetefromTn_> you would laugh if I told you what I use
[01:44:08] <_methods> i just see the welders at work stickin the tungsten in a drill
[01:44:12] <_methods> then hittin the grinder
[01:44:23] <_methods> or belt sander
[01:44:38] <PetefromTn_> hehe at least I am not alone
[01:44:50] <_methods> i think that's industry standard
[01:44:50] <Duc> Ive used belt sanders, 4.5 grinder with flap wheel and grinders
[01:45:07] <PetefromTn_> I use my drill and an angle die grinder with a sanding pads
[01:45:13] <Duc> LOL
[01:45:21] <_methods> pretty sure if you showed up to our shop with one of those tungsten grinders they'd tell you go get back in your car
[01:45:22] <PetefromTn_> works good tho
[01:45:33] <PetefromTn_> why?
[01:45:48] <_methods> i think they make fun of welders that use them
[01:45:56] <Duc> Guys at work use the one and loves it. But he is welding TI and SS together
[01:46:00] <_methods> i seem to remember them makin fun of some guy that came in with one
[01:46:00] <Duc> plus inconel
[01:46:17] <PetefromTn_> huh
[01:46:25] <PetefromTn_> never welded inconel
[01:46:40] <Duc> it sucks. sucks even more to machine
[01:46:52] <PetefromTn_> I have machined it never welded it
[01:46:52] <_methods> yeah i hate that stuff
[01:47:00] <_methods> machining nightmare
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[01:47:25] <Duc> yea and eats tooling alive
[01:47:39] <PetefromTn_> I would not mind having a grinder but I use a very short setup and most of the time I am using very short tungstens so not sure they would work in the grinders
[01:47:42] <_methods> you just better make sure you use the right feeds and speeds
[01:47:50] <_methods> or you'll be pickin your teeth up off the floor
[01:47:53] <PetefromTn_> yeah it sucks to machine
[01:48:16] <Duc> http://www.usaweld.com/Tungsten-Grinder-p/sharpener.htm
[01:48:50] <Duc> I can hear the high pitch sound across the shop
[01:49:03] <PetefromTn_> hard to stomach that 230 for me for some reason LOL
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[01:49:18] <_methods> yeah i have a diamond wheel on the grinder so i'll just use that
[01:49:25] <_methods> or the belt sander lol
[01:49:28] <_methods> whatever is closer
[01:49:50] <_methods> i'm lazy like that hehe
[01:50:12] <Duc> install grinder on top of tig welder
[01:50:35] <_methods> hell this thing is big enough i need to install something on it
[01:51:00] <Duc> No kidding.
[01:51:53] <Duc> I was looking for a tig like that but people want to much
[01:52:08] <_methods> auctions
[01:52:21] <_methods> best place to get one i think
[01:52:32] <_methods> or get lucky on craigslist
[01:52:47] <_methods> wife selling exhusbands dynasty for $50
[01:52:47] <_methods> lol
[01:53:07] <PetefromTn_> just watched that video about the tungsten grinder
[01:53:19] <PetefromTn_> apparently YOU have to turn the shaft manually
[01:53:24] <_methods> lol
[01:53:33] <_methods> i have to do that already
[01:53:43] <PetefromTn_> not sure how you are going to get a nice centered point that way
[01:53:47] <_methods> well i just have to pull the drill trigger
[01:54:16] <Duc> I got lucky on craigstlist on a sycrowave 210 for 700 plus a ar10 rifle
[01:54:27] <PetefromTn_> with a cordless drill and the die grinder which is usually sitting there anyway it is like a minute op at best... I just keep a sanding disk JUST for the tungstens
[01:54:37] <Duc> lol
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[01:58:05] <Duc> Hmmm how fancy of a cat wheel to build for the wife
[02:00:56] <_methods> i guess i should check the spark gap on the welder
[02:01:52] <bobo__> Pete when in florida you can grind tungsten outside for the palmetto bugs to grow up on, hear that makes them easer to train
[02:02:59] <Duc> can you find replacement spark inserts for the welder?
[02:05:59] <_methods> hmm no idea
[02:06:11] <_methods> i haven't even looked at them yet to see how worn they are
[02:06:46] <_methods> i'll check that tomorrow
[02:06:48] <Duc> I forget what they were made of
[02:06:52] <_methods> hells kitchen is on now
[02:06:53] <Duc> ebay may have a few
[02:14:10] <PetefromTn_> I once did the spark gap adjustment on mine but that is about it....
[02:15:07] <PetefromTn_> I have owned it for quite a few years now with zero issues other than when I tried to push the unit around in the shop while standing on the foot control cable snapping the plug quite quickly LOL
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[02:17:54] <_methods> heheh
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[02:19:24] <trentster> yay - Hiwin kit just arrived :-)
[02:19:32] <trentster> I am in Linear heaven
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[02:21:10] <PetefromTn_> Well looks like I won't be buying that forced air heater for the shop after all ;)
[02:21:25] <malcom2073> Hah
[02:21:29] <malcom2073> Need an AC unit more like it :)
[02:21:33] <PetefromTn_> yup
[02:21:39] <PetefromTn_> I have one of those actually
[02:21:49] <malcom2073> And a dehumidifier
[02:21:58] <PetefromTn_> naah
[02:22:07] <malcom2073> Heh
[02:22:41] <PetefromTn_> my kids are like....Daddy I can't wait to get to Florida, I want to catch a Marlin!
[02:22:50] <PetefromTn_> I have NO idea where they got that.
[02:23:05] <malcom2073> Haha
[02:23:11] <malcom2073> Probably their friends?
[02:24:08] <PetefromTn_> I think they probably got it from the youtube videos we were watching of people kayak fishing in florida for big game fish hehe
[02:26:42] <malcom2073> So, gonna get a boat? :)
[02:26:45] <malcom2073> Or are you not gonna be that close?
[02:27:24] <PetefromTn_> we got four fishing kayaks ;)
[02:27:50] <PetefromTn_> can't wait to get them down there and do some fishing on the intercoastal and Indian River as well as the ocean
[02:28:17] <malcom2073> Nice!
[02:29:03] <PetefromTn_> yeah they are a lot of fun. we have only been able to take them out 3 times due to the cold weather but when we did take them out we had a blast on them.
[02:30:47] <FloppyDisk5_25> trentster - what's the hiwin for ?
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[02:43:45] <PetefromTn_> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/5420112804.html $500????? You gotta be kiddin' me right
[02:44:38] <CaptHindsight> top speed 3620 rpm!!!!!!
[02:45:30] <CaptHindsight> two step pulley open air drive
[02:45:41] <PetefromTn_> yeah its freaking fantastic :D
[02:45:53] <CaptHindsight> 2 x 2 outlets, om a switch
[02:46:25] <PetefromTn_> I wouldn't pay $200 for that thing let alone $500 LOL
[02:46:28] <CaptHindsight> no children or Chinese were harmed in its manufacture
[02:48:38] <PetefromTn_> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/5419038797.html Looks real nice but $11k?
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[02:50:52] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridgeport-Series-I-CNC-mill-R2E3-with-updated-control-/161746989151 $2300
[02:51:39] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bridgeport-Series-I-R2E3-CNC-Mill-/121408779482 $5k or best
[02:51:46] <CaptHindsight> some people like to dream :)
[02:52:19] <malcom2073> mmm $2300 and an hour away
[02:52:45] <PetefromTn_> offer em 1k LOL
[02:52:49] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIDGEPORT-V2XT-CNC-MILL-/281919176013 US $2,900.00
[02:53:09] <malcom2073> PetefromTn_: I got no room, and a perfectly good mill :P
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[02:53:28] <PetefromTn_> I got no room either ;)
[02:53:49] <PetefromTn_> well at least soon I won't have any room..or a house LOL
[02:54:29] <CaptHindsight> find me a good TIG :)
[02:55:19] <PetefromTn_> those HTP machines are very nice
[02:55:43] <PetefromTn_> several of the top Tig welders in the tuner crowd use them
[02:58:37] <PetefromTn_> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/tls/5419003904.html I find this one amusing too...
[02:59:50] <_methods> 60th anniversary!!!!!!
[03:00:42] <PetefromTn_> yeah thats priceless
[03:03:28] <trentster> FloppyDisk5_25: to replace my current rails (fully supported round bar)
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[03:18:24] <zeeshan|2> bobo didnt hear :P
[03:21:32] <bobo__> zeeshan did you look at the ad ? sounds like your area of the known world
[03:22:23] <zeeshan|2> about 1hr from me
[03:29:08] <bobo__> that is a very usefull radial arm drill press , might also be worth looking over the Hermle. the other swiss cnc maker vers Mikron
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[04:59:45] <nos> http://i.imgur.com/nhSc524.gif
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[07:54:36] <Deejay> moin
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[11:11:59] <VINCE> bonjour, ça fonctionne comme un chat?
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[11:13:48] <VINCE> Bon je me lance je verrai bien,
[11:15:26] <VINCE> j'ai du mal à creer une clé usb bootable ou il y aurai ubuntu et linuxcnc afin de l'installer en dur sur un pc, hier j'ai tester sur un pc portable acer et rien ne s'installe.Pourtant il y avais deja un kubuntu dessus.
[11:16:10] <VINCE> dés que je fais les mise a jour mon kubuntu plante. et est inutilisable.
[11:16:52] <VINCE> oula il y a de drole de traductions.
[11:16:58] <SpeedEvil> Most people here speak english. I'm unsure if any french speakers are around.
[11:17:43] <VINCE> ha ok je vais tenter en anglais alors. ton message s'affiche tres bien en francais chez moi
[11:19:16] <VINCE> That are what you use under win10 to create a key usb with ubuntu and Linux cnc?
[11:26:20] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html#_write_the_image_to_a_bootable_device
[11:27:35] <jthornton> may not be as up to date but in French
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/index_fr.html
[11:30:34] <VINCE> thank you, i'ave testing, not working. last neight i testing other solution.
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[11:45:40] <pink_vampire> hi
[11:45:55] * SpeedEvil throws garlic sausage at pink_vampire.
[11:45:56] <XXCoder> hey bloodsucker
[11:46:04] <pink_vampire> nooooooooo
[11:46:16] <XXCoder> hey check this crazyness
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/fun-inifinite-loop-animation-breaks-the-concept-of-past-1755270388
[11:49:29] <XXCoder> heh whats up pink
[11:50:01] <pink_vampire> hi XXCoder
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[12:12:25] <pink_vampire> someone here use space navigator?
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[12:16:05] <SpeedEvil> ##blender also maybe
[12:16:06] <SpeedEvil> #
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[12:33:22] <_methods> lol
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[13:48:30] <JT-Shop> yea it's the only way to get my Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator
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[13:52:38] <SpeedEvil> JT-Shop: It's a 3d mouse
[13:52:43] <SpeedEvil> a quite spendy one
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[14:08:28] <JT-Shop> wow it is spendy
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[14:28:54] <Sync> 3d mouse ftw.
[14:30:22] <gregcnc> I recently got a space mouse.
[14:31:33] <gregcnc> and a logitech G700s to replace my old revolution mx, but I'm not happy with button programming or battery life
[14:33:12] <SpeedEvil> https://larvalsubjects.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/mouse-in-space.jpg
[14:33:13] <Sync> yeah cable mouse ftw.
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[14:37:13] <gregcnc> the old mx ran for a week or more, this G700s ~ 8hours
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[15:06:41] <redlegion> Anyone in here know ballpark about what I could expect to pay for one seat of PC-DMIS Offline?
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[15:12:23] <archivist> redlegion, I bet most in here never get near that, I have an old copy but it needs a dongle
[15:14:22] <archivist> mine is not that sensible without the cmm powered up
[15:17:04] <MrSunshine_> https://www.facebook.com/system2/videos/10153875579398648/ sweet, rigidity is lighthears better in the machine now =)
[15:17:57] <MrSunshine_> and the cut quality is actualy alot better at those speeds compared to before =)
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[15:19:14] <redlegion> archivist: it looks like CMM programmers are a rare breed anymore.
[15:20:21] <MrSunshine_> aparently quite high volume in that clip from what people say so turn down the volume if you are going to look =)
[15:21:21] <archivist> redlegion, it seems to be a high priced market, I recently got an old CMM off ebay was supposed to be dead/incomplete but actually came more complete than expected even with the passwords to use it
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[15:22:09] <archivist> I wanted to retrofit linuxcnc onto it but it works at the moment
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[15:24:07] <archivist> I am a beginner at using/programming it and lack the english manuals
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[15:25:22] <redlegion> archivist: what is it? Bridge or gantry? Brown and sharpe?
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[15:26:37] <archivist> Browne & Sharpe
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=cmm+pd
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[15:30:24] <pink_vampire> what do you think about this navigator
[15:30:35] <pink_vampire> http://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-3DX-700036-SpacePilot-Pro-Mouse/dp/B00283VWK4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
[15:30:57] <redlegion> archivist: that's wild. It's like a baby version of what I use everyday.
[15:31:34] <pink_vampire> this one is much cheaper
[15:31:35] <pink_vampire> http://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-3DX-700028-SpaceNavigator-3D-Mouse/dp/B000LB7G00/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=01TF7BE426YQAHF6YWHG
[15:31:54] <archivist> redlegion, its past life was measuring turbine blade patterns
[15:32:41] <archivist> and came from Derby, from a subcontractor
[15:32:44] <gregcnc> read that most people are happy with spacepilot pro and all the buttons can be very productive. I just got basic wireless one and haven't even programmed the two buttons in a useful way yet.
[15:35:12] <pink_vampire> the buttuns are just give you easy accses to views..
[15:35:35] <pink_vampire> so if you are using solidworks..
[15:36:16] <pink_vampire> program one as space button so you can select the view that you want..
[15:36:39] <pink_vampire> and the other one program as ESC button
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[15:38:41] <pink_vampire> gregcnc: ^
[15:39:11] <archivist> redlegion, something I want to find is instructions to service the renishaw TP2 probe, ie not by sending it back
[15:40:53] <Frank__> Heellooooos
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[15:45:57] <gregcnc> I'm going to try control and esc on the buttons. view selection is already available on right mouse click
[15:47:07] <gregcnc> the mx mouse used to switch between windows in SW nicely. I can't get the same function from the g700s
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[15:48:02] <pink_vampire> what is g700s?
[15:52:24] <pink_vampire> gregcnc: ^
[15:52:56] <gregcnc> http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g700s-rechargeable-wireless-gaming-mouse
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[16:09:04] <redlegion> archivist: good luck with that. I only know of one local company that services renishaw probe equipment and they charge just about the same.
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[16:15:51] <redlegion> archivist: patent US5657549 looks like half the effort in servicing it.
[16:16:34] <redlegion> I have a broken TP6 laying around but prying that open wouldn't do you much good
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[16:23:27] <pink_vampire> .
[16:23:58] <archivist> redlegion, a good find, I have an LP2, and two TP2, the LP2 measure sub one ohm, ok the two TP2's measure around 100 and 3-900 ohms, I think dirty contacts
[16:23:59] <pink_vampire> someone want to talk on teamspeak?
[16:25:49] <pink_vampire> I it will come popular here and you will want to talk with voice I will rent a server
[16:26:05] <pink_vampire> if it*
[16:26:39] <Roguish> pink_vampire: the 3Dconnexion SpaceNavigator 3D mouse is very good value for doing CAD & CAM work.
[16:28:01] <pink_vampire> Roguish: hope it will help to myC
[16:28:06] <pink_vampire> Roguish: hope it will help to my CTS
[16:28:58] <Roguish> probably just a little tendonitis. that's what mine is. cold packs are very good.
[16:29:44] <pink_vampire> I just need to avoid typing..
[16:30:17] <pink_vampire> this is way I'm on teamspeak..
[16:30:28] <Roguish> try one of these, they are very good.
http://www.amazon.com/Evoluent-VerticalMouse-Regular-Right-VM4R/dp/B00427TAIK/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1453998598&sr=1-8&keywords=vertical+mouse
[16:31:46] <Roguish> also, most important, and usually overlooked:
http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/hs/pubs/comp_erg/gl_comp_erg_2.php
[16:33:22] <Sync> I find the vertical mouses to be the cancer
[16:33:59] <pink_vampire> Sync: what do you mean?
[16:34:29] <pink_vampire> Roguish:it's look very useful links.
[16:34:33] <Sync> I don't like them, they make me get cramps
[16:35:23] <Roguish> i've used the vertical mouse for several years and like them.
[16:35:40] <Roguish> Sync: to each our own. what ever works, or doesn't work.
[16:35:44] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_sQPcMgrc0
[16:36:17] <renesis> archivist: books on spice circuit simulation
[16:36:41] <pink_vampire> how do I get this cute robot?
[16:37:00] <_methods> that's one way to make spiral staircase lol
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[16:37:57] <renesis> i think a doggy is driving my neighbor nuts
[16:38:05] <Sync> I just have a regular gaming mouse now, works much better
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[16:39:06] <archivist> renesis, my books are on the old side, more of the classical maths route
[16:39:57] <Sync> pink_vampire: you contact your local kuka rep and buy one
[16:40:33] <pink_vampire> Sync: or abb..
[16:40:43] <pink_vampire> I like the abb stuff.
[16:40:44] <_methods> ebay
[16:40:45] <_methods> lol
[16:41:48] <pink_vampire> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kuka-Roboter-KR150L-150SP-2-Robot-Arm-No-Controller-/271659536669?hash=item3f402b911d:g:6-AAAOSwVFlUDhH4
[16:41:50] <pink_vampire> fuck!
[16:42:07] <pink_vampire> is that cheap!
[16:42:17] <Sync> they come even cheaper at the scrappers
[16:42:21] <_methods> you can get robots real cheap
[16:42:30] <Sync> the expensive part is the controller, but you can usually just roll your own
[16:42:55] <_methods> if you keep an eye out you can pick them up for free some times
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[16:43:16] <_methods> i got offered 2 big ABB arms but i didn't have the room or power for them
[16:43:57] <pink_vampire> how you can get it for free???
[16:44:16] <_methods> companies getting rid of them
[16:44:24] <renesis> archivist: was curious, thanks. i dont mind buying these so much
[16:44:31] <_methods> caterpillar was closing their plant here
[16:44:38] <_methods> and none of the other cat places wanted the arms
[16:45:07] <ssi> pink_vampire: I've been trying to buy two of those for ever
[16:45:14] <ssi> but I haven't managed to get up there to truck them home :/
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[16:46:03] <pink_vampire> how much it weigh?
[16:46:13] <ssi> I don't recall offhand, but I think about 2000lb
[16:46:44] <pink_vampire> WOWW
[16:46:53] <Sync> did you even look at it?
[16:47:04] <Sync> those are castings with 2cm thick walls
[16:47:23] <Sync> and the base is a massive chunk of cast iron
[16:47:25] <ssi> yeah
[16:47:29] <ssi> and you don't want it to be light heh
[16:47:32] <Sync> yeah
[16:47:37] <Sync> or the counterweight
[16:47:48] <Sync> that is a massive piece of steel
[16:47:58] <ssi> iron probably :)
[16:48:02] <Sync> ye
[16:48:09] <pink_vampire> my machine it's about 450lbs with the motors
[16:48:48] <ssi> yeah as you move up, the weights go up exponentially :)
[16:48:52] <ssi> my biggest machine is 10klb
[16:49:03] <Sync> yeah you get there quick
[16:49:18] <ssi> and that's not a big machine
[16:49:24] <ssi> it's a medium-small vmc
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[16:49:33] <ssi> 20x20x20"
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[16:50:00] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/wWPij14.png
[16:50:10] <ssi> I have one 'ems
[16:50:18] <pink_vampire> my baby cute machine ^
[16:50:22] <ssi> mine's not as pretty as yours at the moment :P
[16:51:13] <pink_vampire> of course she is my princess...
[16:51:17] <Sync> you should put your vice in the middle of the table if you store it
[16:52:03] <pink_vampire> why?
[16:53:06] <_methods> to keep undue stress off your ballnuts and dovetails?
[16:53:29] <_methods> gibs and ballscrew
[16:53:39] <ssi> hold a bowling ball at arms length
[16:53:42] <ssi> then hold it at your chest
[16:53:44] <_methods> ^^
[16:53:47] <ssi> which would you rather do for days on end
[16:54:15] <pink_vampire> ok..
[16:54:47] <pink_vampire> I need to get 2 screens for her
[16:56:05] <Sync> the problem is that it will force out the oil
[16:56:11] <Sync> and then your axis will gall
[16:56:44] <ssi> I don't have any awesome pictures of mine
[16:56:47] <ssi> just closeups of motor mountings
[16:56:52] <ssi> but this is what I was working on last time I touched it
[16:56:55] <ssi> (in 2013) heh
[16:57:01] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKR1ZaVCcAAQ_7t.jpg:large
[16:57:14] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKM8TVgCMAE_YeB.jpg:large
[16:57:21] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKLi5haCMAIynMD.jpg:large
[16:57:52] <pink_vampire> poor machine.
[16:58:04] <pink_vampire> you drill her body :(
[16:58:10] <ssi> heheh
[16:58:13] <Sync> so what?
[16:58:18] <ssi> she likes it ;)
[16:58:24] <Sync> gotta do what you gotta do
[16:58:41] <pink_vampire> what did you do to her in the Z axis??
[16:58:52] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKFgqtoCMAAhxcL.jpg:large
[16:59:03] <ssi> I was working on it, I don't think I ever got the ballnut mount made for the head
[16:59:37] <ssi> yea the screw is there but no ballnut mount
[16:59:44] <Sync> ah ssi did you see the VFD we cobbled together with the fet hardware?
[16:59:47] <ssi> all three axes are geared 3:1, with 6000rpm servos
[16:59:50] <ssi> no!
[17:00:16] <Sync> http://sync-hv.de/projects/3phase_troller/troller_dcbrake1.mp4
[17:00:17] <gregcnc> ssi do you have specs for those servos? I have those for the Emco lathe, do yours also have the 5000 line encoders?
[17:00:30] <ssi> gregcnc: not offhand, I haven't worked with them in a long time
[17:00:49] <pink_vampire> it'a nice setup. but I like the stuff to look nice. and clean look..
[17:01:28] <gregcnc> OK I measured them, but I'm worried they won't be strong enough. not sure how much current they can handle.
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[17:02:07] <pink_vampire> I have also a chip of enamel that come out..
[17:02:20] <Sync> says the person with the motors sticking out to the moon
[17:02:46] <ssi> gregcnc: are you going to gear them?
[17:02:54] <ssi> I geared them because they are too fast as is
[17:02:56] <pink_vampire> I'm wondering what is the best way to fix it..
[17:02:58] <ssi> I wanted to gear them more
[17:03:07] <ssi> but 3:1 was the best I could do sanely in one stage with timing pulleys
[17:03:18] <Sync> yeah I also have 3:1
[17:03:22] <gregcnc> 2:1, 5mm pitch screws, 48V.
[17:03:33] <ssi> 48V seems low
[17:03:34] <pink_vampire> ssi: harmonic drive..
[17:03:38] <ssi> they're 60V drives I think?
[17:03:47] <ssi> pink_vampire: yeah I can't make harmonic drives and they're expensive :/
[17:03:53] <ssi> and probably too slow actually
[17:04:27] <pink_vampire> but you have 6000 RPM..
[17:04:30] <Sync> yeah, harmonic drives would result in a huge reduction
[17:04:33] <pink_vampire> 1:50..
[17:04:57] <Sync> well, you want your rapids to be reasonable
[17:05:07] <Sync> something like 6m/min or so would be nice
[17:05:17] <pink_vampire> my is 3000rpm direct drive..
[17:05:45] <pink_vampire> and I'm using 2048ppq encoders.
[17:05:54] <pink_vampire> and I can get 200ipm
[17:06:04] <pink_vampire> and I'm happy with it.
[17:06:57] <pink_vampire> ssi: on this pic -
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKLi5haCMAIynMD.jpg:large
[17:07:33] <pink_vampire> how did you going to fix the broken enamel?
[17:08:40] <Sync> I have chipped paint all over my machine, who cares
[17:09:27] <gregcnc> 48V should give my setup 3-4m/min rapids for a lathe with 80mm x 180mm travel. I'll see how following error works out in rapid and increase voltage if needed.
[17:10:34] <pink_vampire> I have only one spot, and I don't like it.
[17:10:40] <pink_vampire> I want it to be fix..
[17:11:08] <MrSunshine_> hmm is there a limit how high a voltage for a given motor with steppers?
[17:11:22] <Sync> no
[17:11:33] <archivist> MrSunshine_, the driver is the main limit
[17:11:36] <Sync> if you have a drive that drives current
[17:11:52] <MrSunshine_> archivist: ah .. so i could up the voltage to 80V on my steppers then from 40 =)
[17:12:02] <MrSunshine_> or 70V
[17:16:17] <Jymmm> iirc, it's typically 20 to 25 times the rated coil voltage
[17:16:20] <Jymmm> for steppers.
[17:18:26] <Jymmm> MrSunshine_: I would highly recommend reading ALL of this a couple of times. There is a lot of good info that's easily overlooked...
http://www.geckodrive.com/support/step-motor-basics.html You cna download the PDF too
[17:18:42] <MrSunshine_> yeah i think ive calculated from them before
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[17:28:13] <Frank__> guys! a quickie :D ,i've started to make some holes for the rack and pinion, but i cant really set up my bench drill in a stiff way,so some holes ended up 1mm away from their spot, can i fix this by overdrilling a little bit, lets say 7.5mm for clearance hole of rack, and adding up shims? thanks
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[17:29:07] <Frank__> bolts are m6 fastened to threaded steel structure
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[17:29:56] <Frank__> the 1mm deviation is the threaded steel structure
[17:31:20] <Jymmm> Bolts going in top-down? from the side? bottom-up?
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[17:31:37] <MrSunshine_> hmm dont know what my motors were in mH :/
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[17:31:49] <MrSunshine_> and the guy selling them is not selling them anymore
[17:32:13] <Jymmm> MrSunshine_: Read that link I gave, mentions that
[17:33:31] <MrSunshine_> but i think i came up with a max figure of like 40V or so for them using their calculations
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[17:35:42] <Frank__> bolts from the side €€€ ### ---I €= Threaded steel #= steel rack(7.5mm holes) ---lI= bolt with washer (confused with shims)
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[17:36:25] <Sync> MrSunshine_: just measure it
[17:38:08] <Jymmm> Frank__: I would think that you would want some play/flexability so that you can align (calibrate?) using parallel and or a granite top at some point.
[17:40:40] <Frank__> what do you mean by that? i should do the overdrilling on the racks? i was mainly worried for the washer resistance, i mean, the bolt not getting inside the hole of the rack. thanks for the help
[17:41:35] <Frank__> i do want some play to align it parallel between each other (gantry type router cnc) and the main linear guides that are on top
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[17:45:44] <maxcnc> hi ;-)
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[17:46:00] <maxcnc> internet still on outside digging has started
[17:54:29] <MrSunshine_> https://www.ferrotec.com/products/ferrofluidic/inertiaDampers/ this was a bit interesting, but what is "seismic" mass? =)
[17:54:58] <MrSunshine_> tho i do not have double shaft steppers =)
[18:03:12] <malcom2073> Heh, I'll remember that marketing term for "weight"
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[18:05:11] <CaptHindsight> it's similar to a harmonic balancer on an engine, only this uses a ferrofluid vs polymer as a spring
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[18:13:34] <maxcnc> hi PetefromTn_ what about snow still shuffeling the 3foot
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[18:21:34] <MrSunshine_> seems 10 microsteps and about 7200mm/min is the most my little computer can push out =)
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[18:23:39] <MrSunshine_> but the center mass has to be a magnet or something ?
[18:24:39] <maxcnc> 540 as 10 microsteps
[18:25:03] <PetefromTn_> maxcnc no just sitting here while the home inspectors do their thing... SIGH
[18:25:53] <maxcnc> did you got some damage at home from the storm
[18:26:05] <maxcnc> home inspectors = inshurece
[18:26:17] <PetefromTn_> we hardly had anything you can call a storm. just some snow and cold
[18:26:39] <maxcnc> fine you survived
[18:27:01] <maxcnc> seen here in germany teribble pictues from TN
[18:27:09] <PetefromTn_> really?
[18:27:23] <maxcnc> people stock in piles of snow
[18:27:28] <PetefromTn_> I know Virginia and West Virginia and some of Washington got a bunch
[18:27:36] <maxcnc> many death on street accidents
[18:27:51] <maxcnc> TN got most according to CNN
[18:28:01] <maxcnc> 38Inch
[18:28:38] <maxcnc> hot ot go coustomer rings in !
[18:28:44] <ssi> never believe CNN
[18:28:45] <CaptHindsight> has anyone ever paid a customs duty on a shipment from China into the USA?
[18:28:49] <maxcnc> bye till internet back if gone
[18:28:53] <ssi> I know the people that make that shit ;)
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[18:28:56] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: Yeah
[18:29:04] <malcom2073> I've always had DHL or FedEx pay it, and then invoice me
[18:29:36] <malcom2073> Never been anything over $100 in duty though
[18:29:39] <CaptHindsight> what type of merchandise?
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[18:30:14] <malcom2073> Electronic components (single board computers and the like), and my linear rails I had to pay like $40 on
[18:30:36] <CaptHindsight> ~10% duty?
[18:31:34] <malcom2073> the rails were $800, so 5%, but unsure what price they told customs they were, wasn't listed on the firm
[18:31:58] <CaptHindsight> I haven't been charged in years
[18:32:17] <malcom2073> I don't always get charged
[18:32:20] <malcom2073> i think it has to do with how it's sent
[18:32:33] <malcom2073> Electronics seem to be hit or miss as to if I get charged
[18:32:42] <CaptHindsight> but a partner in China had to pay 10% on a mainboard made there that I sent him from the USA :)
[18:32:50] <malcom2073> Heh
[18:32:55] <gregcnc> Depends how on total value and codes used to declare the items I think
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[18:34:20] <gregcnc> oh yeah they don't want anything back once it leaves China, even items for warranty were going to be taxed
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[18:34:39] <malcom2073> I sometimes forget, that there are people that genuinly believe the world is flat
[18:35:25] <_methods> only in hollywood
[18:35:31] <gregcnc> i read on the internet that bill gates want sot depopulate the world
[18:36:01] <_methods> if he really cares he'll depopulate himself first
[18:37:31] <CaptHindsight> http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/26/464474518/neil-degrasse-tyson-gets-into-a-rap-battle-with-b-o-b-over-flat-earth-theory
[18:37:32] <gregcnc> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/north-carolina-citizenry-defeat-pernicious-big-solar-plan-to-suck-up-the-sun/
[18:37:54] <_methods> see, hollywood
[18:38:16] <malcom2073> I can't remember, is arstechnica another onion?
[18:38:39] <malcom2073> It's like IFLS, nobody knows exactly when they went from reality to satire heh
[18:38:41] <_methods> arstechnica used to be about computer hardware
[18:38:57] <CaptHindsight> malcom2073: they were poking fun at the idiots in NC
[18:38:58] <_methods> at some point it went off the rails into SJW land
[18:40:33] <CaptHindsight> since everyone knows that solar cells are like black holes
[18:40:36] <gregcnc> I guess it was one guy at the city council meeting. but the news made great headlines with it.
[18:40:37] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: There's a sore lack of "edgy" memes in that twitter feed.
[18:40:39] <malcom2073> I'm disappointed
[18:40:57] <ssi> _methods: did you hear about the liberals that are all up in arms about walmart and other big corps donating bottled water to people in michigan affected by that government water treatment fuckup?
[18:41:15] <_methods> you mean in that city run by democrats?
[18:41:17] <ssi> _methods: they say that it creates a defacto water utility that is unregulated
[18:41:24] <_methods> lol
[18:41:24] <ssi> I say let them drink the government regulated tap water
[18:41:29] <ssi> nay, force them to drink it
[18:41:38] <ssi> ban bottled water
[18:41:40] <ssi> that'll fix it
[18:41:42] <_methods> their democrat friends are the ones who let the water get to that point
[18:42:11] <Sync> hm, nice
[18:42:16] <_methods> hahah walmart is the water company
[18:42:27] <Sync> you can see the rotary axis warming up in the torque it needs to spin :D
[18:42:37] <ssi> hah what was that meme about bottled water delivery from amazon turning into a pipeline that carries water from amazon
[18:43:02] <ssi> oh it's an xkcd that's right
[18:43:09] <ssi> http://xkcd.com/1599/
[18:43:32] <gregcnc> someone told me amazon sells more water than anything, i was like WTF?
[18:43:56] <ssi> I believe it
[18:44:03] <ssi> amazon can sell you anything you need
[18:44:10] <ssi> and what's at the top of mazlow's hierarchy of needs?
[18:44:18] <_methods> ummm
[18:44:25] <ssi> or bottom depending on how you look at it heheh
[18:44:34] <_methods> i remember that pyramid thing lol
[18:44:41] <_methods> grains?
[18:44:45] <ssi> http://www.researchhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/maslows-hierarchy-of-needs.gif
[18:44:50] <_methods> fruits and vegetables
[18:44:51] <_methods> lol
[18:44:52] <ssi> heheh
[18:45:04] <_methods> ahhh pizza
[18:45:05] <CaptHindsight> http://michaelmoore.com/DontSendBottledWater
[18:45:36] <_methods> didn't they make cars there?
[18:45:37] <_methods> lol
[18:45:53] <_methods> now they aren't even capable of creating potable water
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[18:46:14] <ssi> #arrestmichaelmoore
[18:46:22] <ssi> just for fun
[18:46:29] <_methods> heheh
[18:48:01] <CaptHindsight> ssi: so what do you get out of this?
[18:49:30] <PetefromTn_> that would be a GREAT idea..
[18:50:25] <ssi> what do I get out of what?
[18:50:32] <_methods> bottled water
[18:51:03] <_methods> airbnb weekend with michael moore
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[18:54:55] <CaptHindsight> _methods:
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Detroit-Hiroshima.png
[18:55:17] <_methods> hahahahhahahahahah
[18:55:47] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: fits. unemployment is wors than A-bomb ;)
[18:55:50] <Loetmichel> +e
[18:56:36] <_methods> gotta love what they've done with the place
[18:57:05] <Sync> a friend of mine has had "housing upgrades"
[18:57:11] <Sync> because they closed down his block
[18:58:00] <gregcnc> Henry Ford museum is nice if you're ever over there
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[18:58:32] <PetefromTn_> jeez what a rathole that place is now
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[19:00:13] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: most uhmericans can't think things through that deeply
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[19:02:54] <_methods> i would say it's a shame, but it never had to be that way
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[19:05:27] <archivist> the beam engine in the henry ford museum belongs to a place 12 ish miles from me
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[19:10:45] <gregcnc> http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/health/tennessee-teenagers-die-dewshine/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
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[19:12:34] <_methods> easy day for natural selection
[19:12:35] <_methods> lol
[19:15:22] <ssi> gregcnc: play stupid games, win stupid prizes
[19:16:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/health/morphine-cough-syrup-recall/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion&iref=obinsite
[19:16:58] <CaptHindsight> A California-based company is voluntarily recalling cough syrup because it contains morphine,
[19:17:06] <_methods> oops
[19:17:09] <CaptHindsight> Voluntarily?
[19:17:40] <CaptHindsight> morphine is a Schedule I drug
[19:17:42] <Jymmm> SIGN ME UP!!!!!!
[19:17:48] <ssi> "Coughing Liquid"?
[19:18:19] <_methods> Jymmm: the poster child for schedule I drugs
[19:18:25] <gregcnc> not understanding the difference between ethanol and methanol? I don't get it
[19:19:00] <gregcnc> sorry in buy nothing to eat from china
[19:19:05] <gregcnc> I buy
[19:19:06] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: they get metabolized differently
[19:19:34] <Jymmm> I shop in asian markets all the time. you can find some great stuff!!!
[19:19:39] <_methods> yeah if you don't start down that drag track immmediately with one you die
[19:19:51] <gregcnc> I know, but did they not? Or did they think the pump fuel was ethanol when casually called alcohol as the reported did in the story?
[19:19:57] <_methods> the other one you get a dui
[19:20:01] <CaptHindsight> Methanol ingested in large quantities is metabolized first to formaldehyde and then to formic acid[12] or formate salts, which is poisonous to the central nervous system, and may cause blindness, coma, and death.
[19:20:22] <archivist> It's not the cough that'll carry you off, It's the coffin they'll carry you off in
[19:20:23] <_methods> die or dui
[19:20:24] <_methods> sign me up
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[19:21:49] <Jymmm> _methods: Hey, you know how difficult it is to get morphine?!
[19:22:00] <_methods> sure
[19:22:12] <Jymmm> _methods: The bigger issues is it's short shelf life.
[19:22:32] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: not sure, maybe it's a Tennessee thing? :)
[19:23:45] <malcom2073> gregcnc: Having had to field that question at the drag strip at least once a night when running funny cars... yes... people really don't know you can't drink "alcohol"
[19:24:34] <CaptHindsight> I thought it was just the nitro methane that you shouldn't drink much of
[19:24:43] <malcom2073> Shouldn't drink that either
[19:25:11] <_methods> dewshine nitro methane boiler maker
[19:25:13] <CaptHindsight> does anyone race with straight ethanol?
[19:25:15] <_methods> you do the first one
[19:25:20] <_methods> i'll film it for youtube
[19:25:31] <gregcnc> E85 is popular with turbo guys now
[19:25:50] <gregcnc> but it's only E50 here in the winter
[19:26:06] <CaptHindsight> just got my first tank of E15
[19:26:28] <ssi> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1919075_1276976145652712_3187889185987062003_n.jpg?oh=3b1c5539ab9a71e32654bc98ff8b4065&oe=572B3213
[19:26:32] <ssi> looks like someone took my advice! ahahahahah
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[19:28:58] <_methods> wonder if they'll even talk about it tonight at the debates
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[19:35:44] <PetefromTn_> are there current logs or do they all stop at 2015
[19:37:42] <gregcnc> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/index.html
[19:37:56] <skunkworks> zlog
[19:37:56] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2016-01-28.html
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[19:48:48] <PetefromTn_> thanks
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[20:00:29] <CaptHindsight> http://ask.slashdot.org/story/16/01/28/1554232/ask-slashdot-learning-robotics-without-hardware
[20:00:50] <CaptHindsight> the sim in linuxcnc
[20:03:01] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Vismach
[20:03:35] <Sync> heh, torque current reduces 3 fold when the axis is warm
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[20:20:20] * JT-Shop managed to get 6 miles on the mtn bike today
[20:21:22] <Deejay> downhill? ;)
[20:24:27] <JT-Shop> some yea rest no
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[20:44:46] <jdh> ciol.
[20:44:48] <jdh> cool
[20:45:02] <jdh> too wet here
[20:45:30] <JT-Shop> no rain for a few days here
[20:45:50] <gregcnc> free tape mate vmc?
https://york.craigslist.org/hvo/5390209162.html
[20:45:56] <jdh> I ride after work. usually dark
[20:46:44] <malcom2073> gregcnc: That's 15 minutes from me :P
[20:46:44] <JT-Shop> you got good roads to ride after dark?
[20:47:09] <jdh> mostly. I have safe routes
[20:47:27] <gregcnc> somebody retrofitted one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9PmjT-yrIM
[20:47:30] <jdh> usually get in 30-40 miles
[20:47:49] <JT-Shop> you on flat ground or hilly?
[20:48:35] <jdh> I can ride a 100 mile loop and get 800ft elevation
[20:49:06] <jdh> coastal flat
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[20:50:07] <JT-Shop> we have some of everything here hilly to one side and flat to the other
[20:50:12] <CaptHindsight> I keep a bike in the lab. I walk passed it every day.
[20:56:51] <FloppyDisk5_25> gregcnc - that's sweet... always deals for someone else:-)
[20:58:30] <PetefromTn_> well home and termite inspection are done...hopefully everything goes well and they did not find anything major LOL feels like someone crawled up my keister and checked me out somehow ;)
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[20:59:29] <_methods> x-files probing
[21:00:17] <PetefromTn_> yup
[21:01:29] <PetefromTn_> at least the termite guy told me that he did not find any active termite activity. He did say one of the legs on my back deck has some previous chewin'. He said the underside of the house looked real good...
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[21:05:04] <cradek> that tapemate is probably a good candidate
[21:06:15] <malcom2073> I wish I had the room for it
[21:06:23] <malcom2073> Well... I have the room, if I put it on a dirt floor
[21:06:41] <malcom2073> But it'd be years before I got to retrofitting it heh
[21:07:31] <Sync> well
[21:07:33] <Sync> it is free
[21:07:34] <Sync> :D
[21:09:09] <archivist> you know you want it
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[21:15:45] <malcom2073> I do
[21:15:50] <malcom2073> but it would cost more than Icould afford to move it :-D
[21:21:08] <Sync> just put some rollers under it and drag it behind your car
[21:22:23] <_methods> weld an axle to it
[21:22:47] <malcom2073> Heh
[21:22:58] <XXCoder> 4 wheels and v8
[21:23:37] <_methods> damn that is one oooogly ass fish
[21:23:39] <_methods> http://www.neatorama.com/2016/01/28/Couple-Find-Strange-Black-Walking-Fish-In-New-Zealand-Bay/
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[21:25:16] <aventtini6> hello guys
[21:25:21] <aventtini6> whats up
[21:26:48] <aventtini6> guys any one who tune a servo motor
[21:26:55] <aventtini6> online
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[21:58:44] <Deejay> gn8
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[23:12:03] <Sync> round and round goes the rotary
[23:12:21] <Sync> now that it is nice and hot it spins pretty freely
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