#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-12-30

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[00:00:36] <cradek> that's a nice feature
[00:00:53] <cradek> you can turn on optional stop if you want it to stop when that operation is done
[00:04:58] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Thanks, Just trying to figure out propane pipe to use.
[00:10:20] <bensbenz> anybody willing to look at my hal and see why my spindle at speed doesnt work?
[00:12:37] <bensbenz> i tried getting my spindle, rpm display and that all to work together and it loads but it doesnt seem to be waiting for the spindle before moving to cut
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[00:33:43] <Roguish> bensbenz: try watching the '....at speed' signal (or pin) in halmeter. get very familiar with hal, it's your best friend. get a listing of the hal pins and signals and all to see if the connections are as you expect.
[00:34:12] <Roguish> of course, probably best to do all that with a lot of 'air cuts'
[00:35:57] <bensbenz> Roguish: Ok i will watch those, but I think the issue is that I am a newb and i fumbled my way into combining the 3 items.
[00:36:24] <bensbenz> Roguish: frankly im surprised i got them to work at all lol
[00:36:36] <Roguish> that's cool. all been there before. welcome to the clubhouse.
[00:37:22] <Roguish> what version r u using? what gui?
[00:37:59] <Roguish> 2.6? 2.7? master?
[00:38:08] <bensbenz> 2.7.3 with axis
[00:38:22] <bensbenz> fresh install yesterday
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[00:40:15] <Roguish> ok. look under the 'machine' menu, and find 'show HAL configuration', also 'HAL meter' and 'HAL scope' all extremely helpful. and of course, RTFM
[00:40:46] <Roguish> it won't take long to get comfortable with it all.
[00:42:16] <Roguish> TESLA is up over 8 points today. made $500 on paper.....
[00:43:09] <Jymmm> Um how? Internal threads? http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c285/Blackchisel/PropanePipeBurner.jpg~original
[00:43:11] <Roguish> wait, make the $3600.
[00:46:41] <cradek> just drilled holes, I'd guess
[00:46:58] <cradek> like an oven burner
[00:54:45] <Jymmm> cradek: Not the jets, ut how they fitted the pipes together without using a union
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[00:55:57] <cheetah2> anyone made a cnc?
[00:56:15] <Jymmm> what's a cnc?
[00:56:23] <bensbenz> ceetah2: made a cnc machine?
[00:56:56] <cheetah2> yes
[00:57:10] <bensbenz> made 4
[00:57:22] <bensbenz> rather converted 4 from manual
[00:57:40] <cheetah2> ok
[00:57:43] <cheetah2> routers?
[00:59:17] <bensbenz> 3 mills and one lathe
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[00:59:36] <bensbenz> routers usually involve wood, i like metal
[01:01:09] <cheetah2> ok so a mill
[01:01:18] <cheetah2> have you worked steel?
[01:01:21] <pink_vampire> what is the best way to make this part?
[01:01:22] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/byvOnVh.png
[01:01:48] <bensbenz> yes
[01:01:48] <pink_vampire> the material is plastic
[01:03:22] <cheetah2> have you made a cnc lathe?
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[01:04:31] <toastyde1th> yay i finally got raw C running on my arduino
[01:04:50] <bensbenz> cheetah2: yes working on getting it up and running smoothly on linuxcnc right now
[01:05:15] <cheetah2> nice
[01:05:23] <cheetah2> how long does it take you to do the conversion?
[01:05:24] <cheetah2> weeks?
[01:05:26] <cheetah2> months?
[01:05:27] <cheetah2> years?
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[01:06:11] <bensbenz> weeks
[01:06:22] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: I'm still working on my conversion...
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[01:06:25] <bensbenz> its a small lathe
[01:06:33] <cheetah2> great
[01:06:53] <cheetah2> i was thinking whether to do a from scratch or a conversion
[01:07:10] <pink_vampire> also lathe?
[01:07:50] <cheetah2> yes
[01:08:04] <cheetah2> no i was thinking of a router
[01:08:10] <cheetah2> but i need it to work steel
[01:09:13] <bensbenz> not sure a router would be rigid enough for steel
[01:09:27] <bensbenz> your probably better off with a mill, thats what they are for
[01:09:44] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: I have the G0704
[01:11:27] <cheetah2> g0704 looks nice
[01:11:34] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/VtiL3GE.png
[01:11:45] <cheetah2> ineed one
[01:11:56] <pink_vampire> mild steel
[01:12:05] <cheetah2> how heavy is it can you carry it?
[01:12:24] <cheetah2> too heavy to carry?
[01:13:37] <pink_vampire> I'm too skinny for lifting it.. :-) but my BF..
[01:14:03] <cheetah2> do you use coolant when doing steel?
[01:14:22] <pink_vampire> you take the table out, and the collom out and the Z spindle.
[01:14:32] <pink_vampire> just cutting oil..
[01:14:44] <pink_vampire> I go slow..
[01:14:52] <cheetah2> you have a pump ?
[01:14:59] <cheetah2> or you just sprinkle on or what?
[01:15:17] <pink_vampire> no.. just abit of oil..
[01:15:36] <cheetah2> ok
[01:15:47] <cheetah2> nice
[01:16:05] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/701peEs.png
[01:16:21] <pink_vampire> this is aluminum
[01:16:47] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/B4rVvob.png
[01:17:03] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/XLeLDyd.png
[01:17:19] <pink_vampire> what it become.. ^
[01:17:37] <pink_vampire> 2024-T3 aluminum
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[01:17:52] <pink_vampire> fun to work with it
[01:17:58] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: ^
[01:18:11] <cheetah2> how do you know when it cant do a certain piece
[01:18:16] <cheetah2> does the software tell you or what?
[01:18:44] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/TXP6KN2.png
[01:18:49] <CaptHindsight> cheetah2: loud chattering, smoke, flying metal shards
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[01:18:54] <pink_vampire> more inserts..
[01:19:04] <cheetah2> no i mean if the stl is not able to be done
[01:19:07] <cheetah2> because of its shape
[01:19:14] <cheetah2> does it tell you or what?
[01:20:21] <pink_vampire> CAD solidworks, CAM hsmexpress, CNC mach3 (experiment with linuxcnc)
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[01:20:47] <pink_vampire> I design anything myself...
[01:21:22] <cheetah2> i need to get me a cnc
[01:21:31] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: http://i.imgur.com/QxIfhdY.png
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[01:22:23] <pink_vampire> the gray is the stock material, inside there is the part in red, the yellow, green blue is the tool path
[01:22:28] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: ^
[01:22:44] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: where are you from?
[01:22:56] <cheetah2> ca
[01:23:37] <pink_vampire> too hot..
[01:23:42] <pink_vampire> I'm from NY
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[01:23:59] <pink_vampire> I don't like to drive in CA
[01:24:22] <cheetah2> yeah shitty drivers i agree
[01:25:01] <cheetah2> i want a cnc but since im moving i need something that i can carry
[01:25:03] <pink_vampire> NV OR AZ much nicers
[01:25:25] <pink_vampire> you can lift 50lbs?
[01:25:27] <cheetah2> i prefer nv myself
[01:25:32] <cheetah2> yes
[01:25:40] <cheetah2> i may be able to lift up to 100lb
[01:26:01] <pink_vampire> so you can lift the G0704 in parts without any problem..
[01:26:19] <cheetah2> oh great if it comes appart thats better
[01:26:29] <pink_vampire> you have bassicly 5 main parts
[01:27:10] <pink_vampire> stand, base, table, column, spindle
[01:27:41] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: ^
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[01:30:32] <pink_vampire> to really enjoy from it you have to know how to make 3d models
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[01:37:07] <pink_vampire> hi cheetah2
[01:37:22] <pink_vampire> did you see what I type?
[01:37:29] <cheetah2> i need a new irc client
[01:37:43] <pink_vampire> I'm using KVIrc
[01:38:17] <pink_vampire> I typed: you have bassicly 5 main parts - stand, base, table, column, spindle
[01:38:31] <pink_vampire> and to really enjoy from it you have to know how to make 3d models
[01:38:54] <cheetah2> yeah i dont know
[01:39:03] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: you are using linux or windows?
[01:39:04] <cheetah2> solidworks looks like it has a steep learning curve
[01:39:08] <cheetah2> mac
[01:39:40] <cheetah2> im mostly looking to work with already made models
[01:39:44] <pink_vampire> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/kvirc_portable
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[01:39:46] <cheetah2> but i agree making models would be awesome
[01:40:01] <os1r1s> pink_vampire So its easy to lift the G0704 top into place (in pieces)?
[01:40:24] <pink_vampire> yes,
[01:40:42] <os1r1s> pink_vampire Good to know. Could two people lift it into place intact?
[01:40:46] <pink_vampire> I'm in 2nd floor
[01:41:21] <pink_vampire> my BF did it himself
[01:42:30] <cheetah2> great
[01:42:51] <os1r1s> pink_vampire He lifted a 300 lbs object onto the stand?
[01:44:06] <pink_vampire> cheetah2: in my last job I was teaching people how to use solidworks. in one week you can learn the basics very easy.
[01:44:17] <cheetah2> great
[01:44:25] <cheetah2> yea it just looks intimidating i guess
[01:44:48] <jdh> `it doesn't weigh 300 lbs
[01:44:49] <pink_vampire> he is a strong guy. he opens jars for me :)
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[01:45:35] <pink_vampire> the spindle part is the heaviest part..
[01:45:46] <neverbuya_subaru> lol jdh
[01:46:05] <pink_vampire> about 100lbs..
[01:46:29] <cheetah2> yeah 100 is a lot but doable
[01:46:29] <pink_vampire> and get 5" vice not 4"
[01:46:42] <pink_vampire> maybe less..
[01:47:20] <pink_vampire> there is 4 screws, and one deep set screw on the side.
[01:47:43] <jdh> I got a lift to move mine when I got it
[01:47:51] <os1r1s> jdh I've seen a bunch use a lift
[01:47:56] <neverbuya_subaru> jdh weakling
[01:47:58] <os1r1s> But I was hoping to avoid it
[01:47:59] <jdh> next time I just picked it up
[01:48:00] <neverbuya_subaru> =P
[01:48:07] <pink_vampire> I have wood floor..
[01:48:13] <os1r1s> jdh So how heavy is it?
[01:48:25] <jdh> dunno.
[01:48:34] <jdh> nothing to judge by
[01:48:37] <pink_vampire> and something importent!
[01:48:44] <_methods> the weight is listed on its specs isn't it
[01:49:19] <jdh> the specs also say 1 hp spindle
[01:49:35] <pink_vampire> if you out the machine on wood floor you have to bolt it to large and heavy wood base
[01:49:38] <_methods> 363lbs with stand shippin weight
[01:49:54] <pink_vampire> you get 2 boxes..
[01:50:01] <os1r1s> _methods Which is what I thought ...
[01:50:12] <os1r1s> _methods But pink_vampire is saying its not that heavy ...
[01:50:25] <_methods> i have no idea i just looked at the specs
[01:50:32] <_methods> i have no idea if it's correct
[01:50:51] <_methods> jdh said he just picked it up
[01:51:14] <jdh> not off the ground though
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[01:52:11] <os1r1s> jdh But you think two people could lift it off the ground and put it in place
[01:52:12] <_methods> sounds like a great way to win yourself a hernia lol
[01:52:23] <jdh> yeah
[01:52:35] <jdh> the wheeled lift was certainly easy though
[01:52:36] <pink_vampire> we get it here in to small wood house 2nd floor
[01:53:20] <pink_vampire> you just need to take it apart
[01:54:15] <pink_vampire> and if you have anather guy with you probbly you can just take the collom out and you good to go.
[01:55:03] <os1r1s> pink_vampire I would be paranoid about putting a 300 lb mill that vibrates on a second floor
[01:55:09] <os1r1s> Of a normal house
[01:55:25] <_methods> vampire's live in castles
[01:55:30] <_methods> so she's safe lol
[01:55:33] <jdh> I had to take the spindle off anyway for the 3 bolt mod
[01:55:35] <os1r1s> _methods Good point :P
[01:55:46] <cheetah2> if anything you can get some concrete and make a concrete base
[01:56:13] <cheetah2> maybe a concrete base with some bolts pointing up you can just bolt it in
[01:56:34] <pink_vampire> I have very large and thick wood bas and also anti fatig mat unter
[01:56:36] <jdh> get a 4x4ft piece of 3/4" steel
[01:56:51] <_methods> that's what i did with my x2
[01:57:07] <_methods> then bolted it to a harbor freight tool cart hehe
[01:57:40] <os1r1s> pink_vampire jdh Do you use flood coolant?
[01:57:49] <pink_vampire> no!
[01:58:05] <pink_vampire> (not yet)
[01:58:15] <pink_vampire> maybe if it will be close..
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[02:05:10] <jdh> nope.. spray wd40 for 6061 is about it
[02:05:34] <jdh> squirt anyway
[02:09:51] <cheetah2> well what happens if you dont
[02:09:56] <cheetah2> smoke?
[02:10:40] <pink_vampire> jdh: smoke of wd40 is soooo nasty
[02:11:21] <jdh> never noticed that really
[02:11:40] <pink_vampire> without lubrication the end mill dont cut very good.
[02:12:01] <pink_vampire> jdh: try higher feed rate..
[02:12:38] <jdh> why
[02:12:53] <pink_vampire> cut faster..
[02:13:44] <pink_vampire> you have also G0704?
[02:14:53] <jdh> yeah
[02:15:20] <pink_vampire> what is the max rapid feed rate that you can get?
[02:18:15] <jdh> I think I have x/y max at 120. z will stall >90 or so
[02:18:38] <pink_vampire> IPM?
[02:18:46] <pink_vampire> you can do better.
[02:19:06] <pink_vampire> I gat 250IPM easy.. and I know I can go faster.
[02:19:36] <pink_vampire> and this is soo cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve1zzDXlJoA
[02:21:19] <pink_vampire> jdh: ^
[02:23:49] <jdh> I've had them faster, didn't have a need for it
[02:24:19] <jdh> and didn't feel like tweaking anymore. faster than that, it stops badly
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[02:28:19] <pink_vampire> you see the wire bender?
[02:28:43] <CaptHindsight> arts and crafts wire bender
[02:29:57] <malcom2073> That's kinda cool, I like it
[02:30:05] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQIYZ-iKuG4 AFE-2D6 ULTRA CNC Wire Bender
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[02:31:06] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: How is that machine cutting it?
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[02:31:12] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCF2tQhceTM more better 3d bender
[02:34:09] <CaptHindsight> malcom2073: watch this one in slow https://youtu.be/HCF2tQhceTM?t=3m6s you can see the snip
[02:34:28] <malcom2073> Yeah I saw that one snip it
[02:34:31] <malcom2073> I didn't see the other one do it
[02:35:04] <CaptHindsight> likely sinilar just out of sight
[02:35:08] <malcom2073> Yeah
[02:35:10] <CaptHindsight> similar even
[02:35:29] <malcom2073> Tbh though, if I had a use for it, that doesn't look like a terribly difficult machine to make sturdy
[02:35:42] <malcom2073> but I can't think of a use
[02:35:43] <malcom2073> heh
[02:35:51] <CaptHindsight> lamp shades
[02:36:02] <CaptHindsight> curtain and shower hooks
[02:36:06] <malcom2073> meh and meh
[02:36:22] <pink_vampire> how I can drive 3 common cathode loads with npn transistors?
[02:36:34] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/okimSv6.png
[02:36:49] <pink_vampire> something like that...
[02:37:24] <CaptHindsight> open collector darlingtons
[02:37:43] <pink_vampire> 2n2222 will work?
[02:37:52] <CaptHindsight> you have a common ground
[02:37:59] <pink_vampire> yes..
[02:38:07] <CaptHindsight> are all the + the same voltage?
[02:38:28] <CaptHindsight> doesn't matter since they are discrete transistors, just wondering
[02:38:48] <pink_vampire> about 350ma
[02:39:04] <pink_vampire> each load
[02:39:16] <CaptHindsight> 2n2222's are <30ma or close iirc
[02:39:38] <pink_vampire> what is iirc?
[02:39:57] <pink_vampire> 2n2222 is 600ma or 800ma
[02:40:02] <CaptHindsight> if I recall correctly
[02:40:27] <Jymmm> 600GIGAWATS
[02:40:50] <CaptHindsight> depends on the package and what your ambient is
[02:40:55] <pink_vampire> http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/MPS2222-D.PDF
[02:40:57] <bensbenz> this is awesomeL https://www.instagram.com/p/_5kTcFxz33/
[02:42:09] <CaptHindsight> and what Vce and Ic you need
[02:42:37] <pink_vampire> I have here mps2222a
[02:42:53] <CaptHindsight> gotta go, hasta banana
[02:42:56] <pink_vampire> the power supply is 5V
[02:43:35] <pink_vampire> :(
[02:43:50] <Jymmm> No stick goo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEH6tDLKcVU
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[03:28:21] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/XrQiP5z.png
[03:30:00] <malcom2073> That's big
[03:30:27] <os1r1s> pink_vampire I think you should repaint your G0704 in pink
[03:30:35] <malcom2073> +1
[03:30:59] <malcom2073> I think a hot pink machine would look pretty sweet
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[03:32:16] <pink_vampire> os1r1s: I know!!
[03:32:50] <pink_vampire> but I dont know how to paint it so it look nice and not junk...
[03:33:44] <malcom2073> There's pages about how to repaint machines during retrofits and hte like, just replace whatever bland color they're using with pink
[03:34:08] <os1r1s> Has anyone bought the hossmachine ATC plans?
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[03:34:33] <pink_vampire> no..
[03:34:44] <pink_vampire> I dont like his machine...
[03:35:12] <pink_vampire> malcom2073: LINK!
[03:35:27] <malcom2073> pink_vampire: Let me see if I can find the one I was looking at when I wanted to repaint my machine
[03:38:07] <pink_vampire> thanks :)
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[03:38:25] <malcom2073> Yeah I can't find it
[03:38:53] <pink_vampire> errr!!!@@#@
[03:38:57] <malcom2073> iirc, it was a paint roller and some kind of oil resistant paint
[03:38:59] <malcom2073> maybe engine paint?
[03:39:37] <pink_vampire> I destroy my nail polish when I solder now..
[03:39:47] <malcom2073> Need a better longer soldering iron
[03:39:52] <malcom2073> or shorter nails, I've seen pictures :P
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[03:40:15] <pink_vampire> no....
[03:40:26] <pink_vampire> I like my nails..
[03:40:43] <pink_vampire> maybe thay a bit too long.. (maybe)
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[03:44:21] <jdh> wow... I forgot my g0704 had a motor cover at one point
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[03:46:47] <pink_vampire> jdh: how!?
[03:47:36] <jdh> I took it off teh first week and haven't seen it since (several years ago)
[03:47:45] <jdh> just saw it in your pic above
[03:52:29] <os1r1s> If I was going to use a stepper for a rotating toolchanger, would it be best to set it up in linuxcnc as an axis or some other way?
[03:56:03] <skunkworks> you would not set it up as an axis. You would create the logic in hal
[03:56:39] <skunkworks> pink_vampire: everything done with linuxcnc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk
[03:56:41] <os1r1s> skunkworks And the logic in hal would set step/dir commands?
[03:56:47] <skunkworks> yes
[03:57:18] <os1r1s> skunkworks Is there a good example to lead me down the right path?
[03:58:13] <skunkworks> the forum has some examples I bet. Look at the carousel componant. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/carousel.9.html
[04:00:17] <os1r1s> skunkworks That looks interesting, thx
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[04:07:58] <jesseg> Anyone highly experienced with plasma cutters?
[04:08:58] <jesseg> I noticed sometimes my CC torch lights up inside the tip - i.e. the white ceramic tip glows bright white for a second w hile I'm cutting, like an arc is happening inside there.
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[04:39:11] <neverbuya_subaru> 黒
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[05:11:13] <Jymmm> skunky!!!
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[06:50:43] <pink_vampire> skunkworks: - amazing!
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[08:04:53] <Deejay> moin
[08:27:14] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
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[08:43:47] <Deejay> hi pink_vampire
[08:44:00] <pink_vampire> how are you?
[08:45:04] <Deejay> fine, thanks. and you?
[09:01:43] <pink_vampire> working on the pcb for the stacklight controller.
[09:02:15] <pink_vampire> it's so awesome to see it work
[09:04:51] <pink_vampire> Deejay: ^
[09:05:05] <Deejay> :)
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[09:17:45] <pink_vampire> almost done half of the pcb..
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[11:23:20] <XXCoder> finally home
[11:23:39] <Deejay> home sweet home
[11:24:18] <XXCoder> yep
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[11:42:42] <XXCoder> wow
[11:42:44] <XXCoder> this is weird
[11:42:46] <XXCoder> http://futurism.com/links/ford-files-patent-car-converts-unicycle/
[11:42:55] <XXCoder> workable maybe once we get better batteries,
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[12:06:14] <renesis> this is so no
[12:06:32] <renesis> theyll do hub motors probably, because ease of mass production assembly
[12:06:47] <renesis> but hub motor handling will be so much ass
[12:07:08] <renesis> like, you dont have to deal with unsprung weight in animes
[12:09:41] <enleth> that's why we need room temperature superconductors
[12:09:59] <enleth> imagine hub motors made of that
[12:10:32] <Jymmm> http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in-graphite-grains/
[12:11:00] <XXCoder> enleth: one sci fi book has power nodule, it has no max limit, so if you input one gram worth of power, it is gram heavier
[12:11:14] <XXCoder> whole usa uses around 2 1/2 grams of power a year.
[12:11:47] <XXCoder> heh as polot there was one nodule thats been charging for decades. its weight was well over a KG
[12:11:56] <XXCoder> *plot
[12:13:10] <Jymmm> BloomBox http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6816773n
[12:13:26] <enleth> same kind of idea as Mass Effect's, well, mass effect
[12:14:10] <XXCoder> enleth: sounds to me that it's full of this common element bullshitium
[12:14:48] <XXCoder> but same time its in realm of possibility
[12:14:57] <enleth> XXCoder: which sci-fi isn't, save for the most hardcore?
[12:15:40] <enleth> at least ME's add-ons to relativity are internally consistent and maintain the suspension of disbelief
[12:15:59] <Jymmm> Safe Nuclear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbyr7jZOllI
[12:16:59] <enleth> it's much worse when the authors don't get any physics right and try to invent their own on top of nothing
[12:17:07] <XXCoder> enleth: never read mass effect but yeah definied rules is awesome.
[12:17:15] <XXCoder> actually different physics is fine
[12:17:22] <XXCoder> just internally consisent
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[12:36:11] <Jymmm> physics? physics?! We don't need no stinkin physics!
[12:37:22] <XXCoder> reminds me of that book
[12:37:26] <XXCoder> k-space something
[12:37:35] <enleth> XXCoder: FYI there are some books in the franchise already but ME is primarily a video game series
[12:37:44] <XXCoder> guy got physics so wrong that its funny
[12:37:49] <XXCoder> ]but then its 1960s book
[12:37:56] <Jymmm> XXCoder: K-Pak ?
[12:38:06] <XXCoder> pretty enjoyable for such an ancient book
[12:38:42] <Jymmm> XXCoder: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272152/
[12:39:00] <XXCoder> hardly. lol
[12:39:04] <XXCoder> its a rare boojk
[12:39:29] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I'll wait for the movie to come out ;)
[12:39:43] <XXCoder> good luck finding a book to make movie out of. lol\
[12:40:00] <XXCoder> hopefully I still have it, most of my books is in boxes.
[12:40:32] <Jymmm> XXCoder: </sarcasm> I'm not actually waiting
[12:40:50] <XXCoder> I know. I replied with sarcasm too lol
[12:41:19] * Jymmm burns XXCoder books and grabs the marshmellows
[12:41:37] <XXCoder> NOOOO lol
[12:41:53] <XXCoder> I do look forwrd to getting a book scanner
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[12:42:06] <XXCoder> so I can have more ebooks and legit too
[12:43:25] <archivist> I want a book scanner
[12:43:28] <XXCoder> enleth: old books is very cheap
[12:43:35] <XXCoder> scan em and you get cheap ebooks
[12:43:38] <archivist> just spent an hour scanning a manual
[12:43:48] <XXCoder> archivist: you missed a indiegogo on it
[12:44:10] <XXCoder> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/czur-scanner-build-your-own-digital-library#/
[12:44:49] <XXCoder> oh its in demend mode, you can still get whatever still aviliable apparently
[12:44:57] <archivist> useless website mostly white screen
[12:45:27] <archivist> web2 fsckup
[12:45:29] <XXCoder> you just need to enable indoegogo script. rest of scripts is useless
[12:45:48] <archivist> I and never disabled scripts
[12:45:57] <archivist> and/have
[12:46:13] <XXCoder> odd
[12:46:24] <archivist> people are useles in site writing theses days
[12:46:30] <archivist> useless
[12:46:30] <XXCoder> would be funny if noscript helped make readable site for me
[12:48:55] <XXCoder> archivist: I see trend of including more and more domains scripts in websites
[12:49:02] <XXCoder> meaning sites is getting slower and slower.
[12:49:07] <XXCoder> noscript helps hell of a lot.
[12:49:22] <XXCoder> indiegogo may be worse yet, looks like over 40 domains
[12:49:43] <XXCoder> nah not that bad but huge count
[12:49:44] <archivist> I have started adding 3rd party domains to my hosts file
[12:50:17] <XXCoder> just use noscript
[12:50:27] <archivist> it means the main site works but you never have to load anything from the 3rd party
[12:50:57] <archivist> eg it fixes ebay properly
[12:55:25] <XXCoder> nice
[12:55:35] <XXCoder> for me just need to enable ebay script and one other
[12:55:38] <XXCoder> and it works fine
[12:56:26] <archivist> not just scripts you need to fix, cookies as well as the tracking images
[12:57:39] <XXCoder> yeah noscript dont block all of those but not too worried
[12:58:37] <XXCoder> oh here it is a video https://youtu.be/crhnYFKpWdI
[12:59:08] <archivist> I did a count one day, ebays advertisers had put 360 odd cookies on my machine
[12:59:25] <XXCoder> yummy lol
[12:59:34] <XXCoder> dang that many
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[13:01:40] <Jymmm> Settings: Do not accept 3rd party cookies
[13:01:51] <archivist> remember some of the adblockers are in bed with some of the advertisers
[13:02:22] <archivist> I set that and deleted all the crap cookies
[13:02:31] <ReadError> ublock origin
[13:03:24] <Jymmm> What I'm curious about is HOW there are detecting ABP is running
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[13:04:19] <archivist> ABP is sending you ads!
[13:04:38] <archivist> no such thing as a free lunch
[13:05:37] <Jymmm> I have that "allow some ads" turned off.
[13:05:58] <archivist> I bet it tracks for the sites
[13:06:07] <Jymmm> probably
[13:06:08] <XXCoder> heh I dont use any ad block
[13:06:13] <XXCoder> I rarely see any ad
[13:06:53] <ReadError> Jymmm depending on how the content is requested
[13:07:08] <XXCoder> anyway laters
[13:07:09] <ReadError> they can use a unique code and check to see if its been requested/pulled
[13:07:21] <Jymmm> ReadError: ah
[13:09:15] <archivist> I catch those tracking calls to certain ad tracker sites:)
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[13:10:03] <ReadError> def take a look at ublock origin
[13:10:12] <ReadError> much more efficient
[13:10:23] <ReadError> https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-vs.-ABP:-efficiency-compared
[13:10:44] <Jymmm> ReadError: But how effective compared to ABP?
[13:11:11] <Jymmm> I have a hellva personal filters in place (2MB worth so far)
[13:11:17] <ReadError> works the same as far as I can tell
[13:11:22] <ReadError> no youtube ads etc
[13:11:52] <ReadError> it supports the same filters, so you can just paste them in
[13:12:08] <ReadError> 'One filter per line. A filter can be a plain hostname, or an Adblock Plus-compatible filter. Lines prefixed with ‘!’ will be ignored.'
[13:12:26] <Jymmm> ah, cool
[13:13:02] <archivist> my server just returns a 404 no need for external code
[13:13:12] <ReadError> using a proxy?
[13:13:24] <archivist> no this is a server anyway
[13:14:13] <archivist> I just set up a few things in the default virtual host
[13:15:22] <archivist> sometimes for speed it returns a 1 px image or empty file to the caller in the web page
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[14:53:04] <JT-Shop> looks like my shielded wire will be here today...
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[15:29:07] <Tom_itx> what size?
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[15:46:51] <JT-Shop> 24ga
[15:50:40] <os1r1s> JT-Shop Or is there a description for your turret example on your website?
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[16:05:58] <JT-Shop> no, just a simulator example and comments in the hal file
[16:16:44] <os1r1s> JT-Shop I'm trying to build a carousel type tool changer that would be rotated via a stepper. I wasn't looking to put switches on it, though a home one is a possibility.
[16:17:16] <os1r1s> JT-Shop The hal code makes sense to me, its the ladder logic one that is more difficult to understand
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[16:18:15] <JT-Shop> have you viewed the ladder tutorial on my web site?
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[16:23:18] <os1r1s> JT-Shop I had followed it a while ago, but I probably need to run back through it. I'll take that path and figure out if that gets me close.
[16:24:43] <JT-Shop> do you have a question?
[16:27:42] <os1r1s> JT-Shop I was trying to figure out if that would get me close the the stepper based toolchanger I mentioned above
[16:31:33] <JT-Shop> the tool change part should be similar only what you do during the tool change would be different
[16:32:57] <os1r1s> JT-Shop Gotcha. I'm going to wire it up and follow the tutorials, then try that one out
[16:34:17] <bensbenz> Is there something special I have to do in order for arcs to work correctly?
[16:34:25] <JT-Shop> I find it helps me to sort out ladder by writing each step and the condition that exits that step down in pseudo code first
[16:34:38] <JT-Shop> input the correct coordinates
[16:34:42] <bensbenz> for example i have: G2 X0.4993 Z-0.5451 I-0.0432 K-0.0502
[16:34:48] <Loetmichel> *meh* i should have invested a bit more money for that desk chair. I AM SIIIINKIIIING!!!!111 ... ( the gas lift cylinder isnt up to my weight, sometimes it slowly descents to the bottom)
[16:34:51] <bensbenz> but it shows up as circles
[16:35:44] <JT-Shop> what is the starting position?
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[16:39:11] <bensbenz> that section is: Z-0.5211 F0.01
[16:39:59] <bensbenz> this is out of my cam, I dont know enough to do it by hand.
[16:40:11] <JT-Shop> what is the X position?
[16:40:20] <bensbenz> X0.464
[16:41:18] <JT-Shop> a lathe?
[16:41:24] <bensbenz> yes sir
[16:41:52] <JT-Shop> I get a radius error
[16:42:25] <enleth> Loetmichel: I know your pain
[16:42:52] <bensbenz> on mine all the arcs are inverted its strange.
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[16:43:01] <JT-Shop> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Simple_LinuxCNC_G-Code_Generators#Arc_Generator
[16:43:17] <JT-Shop> take a look at the arc generator for lathe
[16:43:18] <enleth> The Ikea Markus chair is awesome for its price but the cylinder gets wonky after being used by domeone heavy fkr a long time
[16:43:32] <enleth> *for, ffs
[16:44:00] <Loetmichel> enleth: the "new" chair i have was even cheaper.
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[16:44:03] <bensbenz> if I use a post that outputs radius then it works fine, but that post doesnt have g76, i guess i need the cam people to take a look
[16:44:41] <bensbenz> I have been told the post with the arcs works fine on pathpilot which is why I though maybe it was just a config thing
[16:45:05] <Loetmichel> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/251810896552-0-0/s-l140.jpg <- 37 eur
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[16:46:28] <Loetmichel> i like that "net" construction. the last one was (artificial) leather... a few hours in it and your back is damp :-(
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[17:10:54] <bensbenz> JT-Shop: it was just a setting...
[17:12:02] <bensbenz> JT-Shop: had to set RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE = G18 G20 G90 in the INI file
[17:12:23] <bensbenz> Dont know why when you setup a machine choose lathe, that setting wouldnt be added.
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[17:13:16] <archivist> you need to put sensible settings to make sure your machine is in the right mode, other gcode could have set something else
[17:13:42] <archivist> always have preamble in your gcode
[17:15:44] <bensbenz> archivist: I do have those
[17:16:07] <bensbenz> archivist: but I guess you need the ini change for it to display correctly in axis
[17:18:25] <bensbenz> archivist: its in the manual to add it, just curious as to why it doesnt get added automatically when you run stepconf and you tell it your using a lathe
[17:20:16] <archivist> stepconf is only a tool to get your started, best to edit after that
[17:20:52] <archivist> it cannot know all possible options
[17:22:02] <bensbenz> archivist: But that seems like a no brainer... In anycase I have learned that, theres no way it could have done my setup
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[17:22:55] <bensbenz> just one more bug to work out for me, I posted on the forums, but I guess it takes a while for a moderator to approve the post.
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[18:07:11] <JT-Shop> bensbenz: I don't see any posts that need approval
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[18:18:30] <pink_vampire> 99% done!
[18:20:09] <Deejay> then go for the last percent!
[18:23:00] <jdh> the second 99% takes longer than the first 99%
[18:23:17] <Jymmm> jdh: exactly!!
[18:23:48] <Jymmm> jdh: Also... of that last 1%, you only get to 99% of it
[18:23:59] <Jymmm> lather rinse repeat
[18:24:17] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: How many acres you on?
[18:24:45] <Deejay> hmm, like reaching the speed of light, isn't it?
[18:25:02] <Jymmm> Deejay: LOL, I was just thinking that.
[18:25:08] <JT-Shop> 9
[18:25:08] <Deejay> ;-)
[18:25:32] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Got a new use for your tractor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZfnxwJBwc
[18:25:54] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: It's a mobile wood rack for 9 cords
[18:26:45] <JT-Shop> I have a stationary wood rack for 4 cords
[18:28:04] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: He has been using a wood boiler for 30+ years, got bigger one and is lazy. the boiler is on one end, the spliter on the other.
[18:29:51] <Jymmm> Pros and Cons of an outside wood boiler (it's heating three houses PLUS an indoor lap pool) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3RdNMN9Qw
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[18:31:54] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: have you run the numbers for this winter for LP vs natural gas costs for heating?
[18:31:57] <JT-Shop> if you heat with wood your not lazy
[18:32:43] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: It's more wood vs LP vs electric, there is no NG up here
[18:32:58] <CaptHindsight> just wondering, thanks
[18:33:56] <CaptHindsight> was looking at operating cost for a NG vs LP furnace for casting
[18:34:05] <JT-Shop> it would have been neat if he had a walking beam to move the firewood
[18:34:22] <pink_vampire> it's render it..
[18:35:14] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: I'm SO sick of re-handling wood... they dump the cords, you stack the cords, bring a wagon laod off the stack to get rid of critters plus dry out a bit, then bring in the house. I came up with log carriers instead, saves on the back =)
[18:35:29] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Or even wheels on those racks
[18:37:32] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: The bigger issue is the heat pump when below 40F. It runs longer and goes into defrost cycle more freqquently. I've been supplementing it with propane heat, big difference.
[18:38:00] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: When in defrost, the $$$$$$$$$$$$ electric heating elements kick in too.
[18:38:56] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: But for your original questions, I've been looking at the cost per btu of all three.
[18:40:04] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Are you buying or c/s/s/ wood from your property?
[18:40:32] <JT-Shop> I cut my own wood
[18:40:59] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: how many cords a season do you go thru?
[18:41:14] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/splitter/splitter-28.jpg
[18:41:23] <JT-Shop> at my neighbors house
[18:41:30] <JT-Shop> depends on the weather
[18:41:41] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/splitter/
[18:41:44] <Jymmm> hardwood?
[18:41:53] <JT-Shop> aye
[18:42:14] <Jymmm> What is that? http://gnipsel.com/images/splitter/First%20Pile%20of%20Splits.jpg
[18:42:46] <JT-Shop> first pile of splits from the splitter I built
[18:42:47] <SpeedEvil> plus 'vs electric' - electric heatpump has several times the output thermally per watt. But is much more expensive to install.
[18:43:02] <SpeedEvil> Also - insulation
[18:43:07] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: species?
[18:43:20] <JT-Shop> dunno
[18:43:21] <SpeedEvil> Insulation/air-sealing/air-air heat exchanger/...
[18:43:52] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: =)
[18:44:21] <bensbenz> JT-Shop: thats the message that I got, said post submitted but that a moderator needs to approve it
[18:44:34] <JT-Shop> where did you post it?
[18:45:45] <bensbenz> adavanced config
[18:46:15] <JT-Shop> it's been approved
[18:46:53] <bensbenz> JT-Shop: ok I will check on it later thanks.
[18:47:28] <JT-Shop> I deleted the duplicate post
[18:47:36] <bensbenz> ok no problem
[18:47:48] <bensbenz> I didnt see the message the first time, thought I just lost it somehow
[18:48:45] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: how deep is the frost line at your location?
[18:52:53] <ReadError> pcw_home or PCW around?
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[19:01:55] <pink_vampire> I need new computer...
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[19:05:31] <pink_vampire> rendering DONE
[19:07:02] <pink_vampire> http://i.imgur.com/rCM4Eyo.png
[19:07:27] <pink_vampire> my stack-light controller
[19:07:48] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Can't find it atm, will research later.
[19:08:30] <pink_vampire> Deejay: jdh archivist XXCoder
[19:10:49] <pcw_home> ReadError: yes
[19:11:19] <ReadError> pcw_home, was wondering if its possible to add something to an existing order
[19:11:24] <ReadError> or should i just place another
[19:13:32] <pcw_home> its probably best to make aadditional order, we can combine them physically and adjust the shipping downwards
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[19:15:03] <ReadError> pcw_home, thanks, do you all have the 26 pin -> 25 db-25 cables anywhere on the store?
[19:15:11] <ReadError> errr -25 sorry
[19:16:28] <ReadError> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=74_81&product_id=273 ahh this must be it
[19:17:37] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Are you including this on the "frost depth" lol http://i.imgur.com/KiVn2Aw.jpg
[19:17:41] <Jymmm> in*
[19:18:45] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: That is ice crystals that have grown from the ground up to apx 1.5" tall in my front yard =)
[19:19:52] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Else, I'm thinking about 10"
[19:21:55] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I have this entire ice crystal forest for 1/8" tall midgets all over the place!
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[19:28:07] <Jymmm> Wood gasification boiler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rp1yBpP3xE
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[19:47:24] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: The reason for my questions is that I was wondering how much land is needed to have enough dead wood to harvest each season that is sustainable over many years.
[19:48:27] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Ex: you burn 4 cords of well seasoned hardwoods per year.
[19:49:17] <SpeedEvil> Doesn't neat to be dead
[19:49:24] <SpeedEvil> cutting live wood works fine
[19:49:31] <SpeedEvil> see willow coppicing, for exampel
[19:52:10] <JT-Shop> I get wood from anywhere I can not just my land
[19:52:44] <jdh> tree poaching!
[19:53:05] <jdh> I have a few I'd be happy for you to take away after you cut them down.
[19:53:11] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: nice
[19:55:03] <pink_vampire> thanks :)
[19:55:35] <pink_vampire> now i need to finish the other controllers...
[19:55:45] <pink_vampire> and also get some sleep..
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[19:56:34] <JT-Shop> it's only poaching if you get caught
[19:56:48] <jdh> I got some modular stack lights with ungodly annoying beepers I need to put on some machines at work
[19:57:50] <XXCoder> nah, YOU know it is poaching, so it is still poaching.
[19:57:53] <SpeedEvil> I am now imagining hard-hats with those lights and beepers for particularly incompetent employees
[20:02:53] <pink_vampire> Bed time. :)
[20:04:35] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: SPI (Sierra Pacific Industries - logging) has a *LOT* of land up here. You see trucks going down the road all the time. They do allow you to harvest stuff for like $20 permit, for n number of cords iirc.
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[20:29:25] <JT-Shop> you can get permits from the us forest service to cut trees that have fallen down
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[20:29:32] <JT-Shop> usually they are rotted
[20:32:29] <Jymmm> ah
[20:32:50] <Jymmm> Around here is difficult to tell which is forestery/blm and SPI
[20:34:25] <Jymmm> But you usually see ppl on the side of the road selling truckloads all the time, already cut/split =)
[20:34:55] <Jymmm> Just got to avoid the soft and infested woods =)
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[20:37:22] <membiblio> Afternoon everyone. Great news for our Routech the first reliable repeatable automatic tool change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo8bNegifAk
[20:38:07] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Even though I swept the chinmey and it was already clean to begin with, had a blockage. weather hasn't been good enough to get on the roof and inspect it all yet. Have you ever heard of cresote build up just within 4 months to cause such a thing? all straight double-wall 6" pipe.
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[20:40:20] <Jymmm> 6" ID, 8" OD
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[20:53:36] <XXCoder> wonder if its not burning off hot enough so plenty of paracle matter to clog
[20:55:17] <JT-Shop> seems hard to believe you could build up enough creosote to plug the chimney...
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[21:23:19] <_methods> no one could figure out at work why this computer kept having BSOD's
[21:23:22] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iq82j7igb8mmtsh/2015-12-28%2013.34.50.jpg?dl=0
[21:24:23] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6tybglqiwohtib4/2015-12-28%2013.35.14.jpg?dl=0
[21:24:25] <_methods> lol
[21:25:09] <XXCoder> thats not even the worst dusted system I ever saw
[21:25:21] <XXCoder> the worse I saw was computer that has smoker cancer
[21:25:38] <_methods> that's all metal lol
[21:25:38] <XXCoder> I call that gummy dust that is conductive computer smoke cancer
[21:25:51] <_methods> metal and garnet
[21:25:57] <XXCoder> metal dust dang
[21:26:28] <XXCoder> in least its not as toxic as computer smoke cancer
[21:37:57] <bensbenz> smokers computers are nasty, sticky yellow dust
[21:39:31] <XXCoder> and conductive
[21:40:18] <XXCoder> when I used to go around repairing people pcs, I keep telling people who smoke in front of pc that they are giving pc cancer.
[21:40:44] <XXCoder> pcs that people smoke in front of, and has front intake tend to last maybe 2 years then die from cancer
[21:40:48] <bensbenz> lol, they dont care about giving themselves cancer im sure they dont care about the pc
[21:41:08] <XXCoder> bensbenz: oddly enough over half would start smoking away from pc.
[21:41:26] <bensbenz> XXCoder: people are just stupid
[21:41:45] <XXCoder> but then pcs used to cost 1000 bucks for ok one
[21:42:02] <bensbenz> XXCoder: I saw a YT video on radiation, said smokers have insane levels of radiation in their bodies
[21:42:24] <bensbenz> XXCoder: never new that
[21:42:28] <bensbenz> *knew
[21:42:43] <XXCoder> interesting. wonder where source is
[21:42:53] <XXCoder> (I know, smokes but where do smokes get em)
[21:43:38] <bensbenz> from the tobacco
[21:44:00] <XXCoder> well I know.
[21:44:21] <XXCoder> tobacco and tons of fun stuff in it
[21:44:37] <XXCoder> very long list of fun chemicals aded
[21:45:06] <bensbenz> Apparently Polonium-210 and lead 210 accumulate and the sticky tar creates a build up
[21:45:41] <bensbenz> those two get into and on the leaves and stay even through processing
[21:45:53] <bensbenz> so I wonder if the computers are also radioactive?
[21:46:13] <XXCoder> actually lots are, but to degree that dont matter
[21:46:19] <XXCoder> hell, WE are radioactive.
[21:46:30] <bensbenz> well yea, but I meant more so because of the smokers death dust
[21:46:50] <XXCoder> I love that xkcd chart
[21:46:58] <XXCoder> probably so
[21:47:11] <XXCoder> radioactivity can flip bits if done right way
[21:47:25] <XXCoder> and it being conductive can also mess with signals
[21:48:05] <anomynous> i always wondered who is turning the bits around inside computer. Its radio actives.
[21:49:04] <XXCoder> :P
[21:49:21] <anomynous> =)
[21:49:51] <anomynous> gotta go to sleep
[21:49:54] <anomynous> bye
[21:50:57] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I start fires to burn very hot, but at night I damper them back to last longer in the night.
[21:51:12] <XXCoder> probably not it then
[21:52:34] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Burning 4year well seasoned oak (season cracks and bark peeling away by 1/8" inch) and some cedar to get rid of it mostly as I have 2 cords of it.
[21:53:40] <XXCoder> Jymmm: reading one site it says it may be because cold air is cooling gas from fire too fast
[21:54:02] <XXCoder> http://americanpreppersnetwork.com/2011/11/solving-wood-stove-chimney-creosote.html
[21:54:11] <Jymmm> XXCoder: That is one reason I start fires hot, to get that updraft going.
[21:54:37] <Jymmm> XXCoder: usually burning 2-3 newspaper is enough to get the updraft properly.
[21:54:57] <anomynous> hmm. I cant open a file made with libreoffice with openoffice.
[21:55:00] <anomynous> cool.
[21:55:08] <anomynous> im really going to sleep now.
[21:55:14] <XXCoder> isnt you supposed to skeep lol
[21:55:20] <anomynous> yes :D
[21:55:23] <Jymmm> XXCoder: But this is actually some sort of blockage - as in smoke leaking from between the box on the ceiling and the pipe.
[21:56:08] <Jymmm> XXCoder: And that was only after I determined the firebox was having some sort of issue.
[21:56:48] <Jymmm> XXCoder: HINT: have 50lbs of sand at the ready to extinguish fire =)
[21:57:05] <XXCoder> good idea
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[21:57:49] <Jymmm> XXCoder: and 50lbs of sand fit PERFECTLY in a 5gal bucket
[21:58:02] <Jymmm> just add an old soup can for a scoop
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[21:58:23] <Jymmm> #30 mesh sand
[21:58:48] <XXCoder> there may be dead animal, or maybe dead human there lol
[21:59:05] <Jymmm> 6" wide hu-mon ?
[21:59:21] <XXCoder> heh dwarf
[21:59:24] <Jymmm> lmao
[21:59:31] <XXCoder> anyway yeah gonna check it over ehj
[22:00:10] <Jymmm> Yeah, I might just pull ALL of the pipe, inspect, reseal (silicone), and reinstall.
[22:00:35] <Jymmm> But thats not till spring
[22:00:45] <XXCoder> man up and take the cold
[22:00:48] <XXCoder> heh
[22:01:28] <Jymmm> have a metal snow roof, 5/12 pitch, and melting snow. YOU get your ass up there after singing the liability release waiver for when you fall and break your neck =)
[22:01:38] <Jymmm> signing*
[22:02:17] <Jymmm> XXCoder: and it you fall, there will be a pit bbq honoring you, with a nice cianti
[22:02:22] <Jymmm> if*
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[22:06:30] <XXCoder> lol
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[22:33:49] <PetefromTn_> https://greenville.craigslist.org/tls/5338897144.html ;) Nice bandsaw
[22:34:01] <Deejay> gn8
[22:34:11] <XXCoder> PetefromTn_: nice and deep too
[22:34:15] <XXCoder> looks like 2 foot
[22:34:32] <XXCoder> 36 in it says
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[22:34:43] <PetefromTn_> yup
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[22:41:16] <bensbenz> newb question, how do I start a program at a certain line? I tried highlighting the line and execute next line, but it just goes to the top.
[22:44:55] <cradek> highlight the line and then right click
[22:45:01] <cradek> "run from here" I think it says
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[22:47:03] <PetefromTn_> I usuallly just go to the top drop down and click run from this line or whatever it is called I can't remember offhand LOL
[22:48:16] <bensbenz> oh sweet, i was looking for a button
[22:48:18] <bensbenz> thanks guys
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[23:03:36] <andypugh> A machining challenge: How to machine the surface highlighted in red? https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Holbrook#6234215675290716930
[23:04:08] <andypugh> (I didn’t intend to mean to, but too much paint ended up in there in the core box!)
[23:05:05] <andypugh> I did find a way, I am wondering if there are any other ways.
[23:05:18] <malcom2073> Go in from the right with a boring bar?
[23:05:25] <malcom2073> like an offset one
[23:05:31] <malcom2073> ?
[23:05:57] <andypugh> That was my first thought, but it would have had to be a two-cornered one.
[23:06:52] <andypugh> The through-bore is 49mm at the narrowest point and the red surface is 85mm diameter
[23:07:10] <enleth> chuck a cutter on a long arbor through the hole?
[23:07:12] <andypugh> So, quite a reach, too.
[23:07:14] <malcom2073> Or two different boring bars
[23:07:16] <malcom2073> one for each corner
[23:07:32] <malcom2073> huh
[23:08:09] <andypugh> enleth: Like this you mean? https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Holbrook#6234216221017108498
[23:08:22] <enleth> andypugh: yeah
[23:08:41] <enleth> you lowered the arbor in there first, then mounted the cutter, right?
[23:09:32] <andypugh> Yeah, I had to assemble everything in-situ, then do a helical interpolation, then take it all apart again to measure.
[23:09:51] <andypugh> I had to make the arbor too.
[23:11:26] <andypugh> I would make the shaft to go in there next, except I hadb’t realised that I don’t have any 62mm dia material.
[23:17:11] <enleth> now that's a perfect spot to fuck up if your power goes down, you're in a hurry and you have a mill that must home in axes on startup, beginning with retracting Z, so usually you think nothing on it and hit the button
[23:17:38] <enleth> *of it
[23:17:51] <XXCoder> yeah hurco would also retract on pause
[23:18:02] <XXCoder> not very good idea
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[23:18:43] <enleth> no way to disable that?
[23:19:00] <enleth> I can imagine those dovetail cutters and dovetails ruined by this
[23:19:01] <XXCoder> good question I was little more than button pusher operator then
[23:19:16] <XXCoder> heh worse ones was tube side slot cutter
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[23:19:29] <XXCoder> if paused it would tool impact on holder and break tool and part too
[23:19:52] <XXCoder> if blackout happened it would be nasty manually taking it out I bet
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[23:20:23] <Frank___> hi coder!
[23:20:31] <Frank___> hi everyone
[23:21:05] <Frank___> here i am asking questions again haha
[23:21:44] <Frank___> this time: Servos and steppers, Good mix?? is it doable 1 stepper on z and 3 servos on X and Y ?
[23:22:05] <XXCoder> I dont know if there is controller that can do mix? dunno
[23:23:30] <enleth> I suppose you could fit two different daughter cards to a Mesa controller
[23:23:37] <Frank___> haha its okey, its not the best time for answers right now thanks anyway
[23:23:52] <Frank___> my servo drives take step+dir inputs too
[23:24:00] <Frank___> thats why i was guessing i could
[23:24:18] <enleth> Isn't that kind of missing the point of having servos?
[23:24:36] <enleth> I always assumed the step/dir input on servo controllers is just a "crutch mode"
[23:24:56] <enleth> So you're not SOL if it turns out you absolutely must run stuff like that
[23:25:46] <Frank___> the 7i85S mesa card can do pwm/dir and step/dir on same outputs
[23:26:10] <Frank___> pwm/dir is still crutch mode?? haha
[23:26:16] <Duc> At least it would be easier to setup. Tuning my servos has been a fun exceting time
[23:26:28] <Frank___> they are not 10v
[23:26:31] <Frank___> +- analog
[23:28:00] <enleth> ah, ok
[23:28:22] <Frank___> i still have to tune them up :/
[23:29:04] <Frank___> i should have gone with just steppers T_T
[23:29:09] <Frank___> wood router
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[23:30:17] <XXCoder> wood dont need all that much precision
[23:32:52] <Duc> not even close
[23:34:03] <XXCoder> 0.001" is very precise for wood
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[23:34:19] <XXCoder> I hope my machine reaches .005" in least
[23:35:35] <Duc> .010 is even overkill
[23:35:43] <Duc> the wood will shink and expand that much
[23:36:09] <XXCoder> sure but I want nice and smooth 3d art
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[23:40:09] <Frank___> yea, tell me now, i bought the servos haha T_T
[23:40:54] <_methods> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/30/ian_murdock_debian_founder/
[23:42:57] <malcom2073> Heh, that's why I converted to steppers
[23:43:10] <malcom2073> took me about three hours to get them installed, wired, and up and running
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[23:52:41] <Duc> what kind of servos
[23:55:39] <Frank___> sorry i was away
[23:55:50] <Frank___> pwm panasonic incremental encoders
[23:56:03] <Frank___> i must leave, thanks for the help anyway duc
[23:56:07] <Frank___> ur awesome..
[23:57:42] <Duc> have a good night