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[00:09:21] <JT-Shop> Very sorry for this error. We will ship you the correct item and you keep the tire as our gift to you for the error.
[00:11:32] * JT-Shop calls it a day
[00:11:39] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[00:12:23] <cradek> yay you get to keep a single random tire
[00:12:31] <cradek> just what you need, I bet
[00:12:49] <cradek> maybe give it to someone for christmas
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[00:29:59] <andypugh> I think CCA is a US thing. UK batteries seem to be rated by Ah. So, I go for marketing.
[00:30:32] <andypugh> Though, it has to be admitted that Ah is a strong function of discharge rate and temperature
[00:31:06] <andypugh> JT-Shop: What’s the tyre?
[00:31:59] <andypugh> This PDF has a table which lists CCA and Ah (at two discharge rates) for a range of batteries:
http://www.budgetbatteries.co.uk/images/products/pdf/22245.pdf
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[00:43:34] <malcom2073> CCA has to do with how much current you can pull at once when at the bottom of the temperature range I believe
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[00:43:52] <malcom2073> Or some weird marketing bs like that
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[01:06:43] <Valen> in .au they are rated in both
[01:06:52] <Valen> so you can get a small ah battery with lots of cca
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[01:41:46] <Jymmm> Battery University
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
[01:45:50] <Jymmm> Had a 20% off coupon, accidentally found this
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-lb-splitting-maul.html and got it for under $18 out the door. Which is the EXACT same handle as this replacement handle, right down the injection molding marks, and is $15+tx
http://www.homedepot.com/p/True-Temper-36-in-Replacement-Fiberglass-Handle-2036100/202057450
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[01:59:22] <gregcnc> http://www.odysseybattery.com/faq.aspx
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[02:03:04] <malcom2073> We have a set of odysseys at work, expensive batteries,
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[02:05:50] <gregcnc> I had an Optima red top in a truck for a long time it was great.
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[04:57:06] <RootB> Hey LINUXCNC, do you guys recommend a PCI-E or PCI parallel card to hook up LINUXCNC?
[05:06:44] <CaptHindsight> whatever matches your motherboard and if you need EPP a card that doesn't have broken EPP mode
[05:08:07] <RootB> EPP?
[05:08:31] <RootB> oh that
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[08:05:09] <Deejay> moin
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[10:34:43] <XXCoder> boo
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[10:58:28] <jthornton> ha
[10:58:36] <XXCoder> whats up
[10:58:55] <archivist> whats down
[10:59:02] <jthornton> I'm up
[10:59:13] <XXCoder> whats middle
[10:59:51] <archivist> the adapter in my saw blade I just made
[11:01:31] <jthornton> got a photo
[11:04:56] <XXCoder> ice ice video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8VcL0DNio
[11:06:15] <XXCoder> yes theres some cnc
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[11:09:09] <XXCoder> pretty simple one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJg1jtLF4U
[11:14:38] <XXCoder> weird
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[11:14:42] <XXCoder> dry ice blasting
[11:14:44] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2KG4gOV20
[11:14:50] <XXCoder> pretty cool I guess
[11:16:18] <archivist> no pic, the camera is hiding today, but the saw now cuts aluminium as well as wood :)
[11:16:29] <XXCoder> nice
[11:16:30] <jthornton> nice
[11:17:12] <XXCoder> dry ice blasting works on removing smoke from books. nice since it isnt water it wont damage
[11:18:32] <archivist> ye gods what sillyness the sudden cooling will break stuff
[11:19:02] <XXCoder> depends on what as many stuff they show being blasted dont change anything besides cleaner
[11:19:16] <XXCoder> including cnc machine gummed up parts
[11:19:32] <XXCoder> and other use was removing dangerous lead paint off
[11:23:55] <archivist> sudden cooling is what cracks carbide tooling
[11:24:17] <XXCoder> didnt see any carbide tools being dry ice blasted
[11:24:22] <XXCoder> not a surpise
[11:30:10] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Tablet-TALKING-Bluetooth-GPS-Black/dp/B00MFF9XHY
[11:30:15] <XXCoder> amazing screen qualty.
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[12:02:33] <jthornton> there calling for a high of 70°F Saturday
[12:03:26] <XXCoder> 40s and 30-s at end of prediction here
[12:03:33] <XXCoder> feels like 20f in my room
[12:03:50] <XXCoder> actual 61f
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[12:20:41] <jthornton> even though python 3.0 was released in 2008 LinuxMint 17.2 (latest one) still has python 2.7.6...
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[12:43:16] <gregcnc> http://5me.com/cryogenic-machining/explore-cryogenic-machining/
[12:45:54] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRYkV_x76g
[12:46:05] <XXCoder> this video loves wolf eyes a lot :P but interesting
[12:48:03] <XXCoder> ADD type video too
[12:49:02] <Tom_itx> Few Clouds 47F high 66F turing cold Thur evening
[12:49:12] <Tom_itx> and that's the jthornton morning weather report.
[12:50:53] <jthornton> lol
[12:51:18] <jthornton> got it done yesterday :) now for a little caulk and lots of paint
[12:51:35] <Tom_itx> bet you're glad to get it all up
[12:52:49] <jthornton> that is a load off me and an empty bay in the garage finally
[12:55:12] * jthornton is having fun building deb's
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[13:00:44] <fiesh_> jthornton: every meaningful system installs both python2 and python3 since they aren't compatible
[13:01:02] <fiesh_> without knowing LinuxMint, I'd bet anything they also have python3
[13:02:10] <jthornton> meaningful?
[13:02:50] <jthornton> sure enough python brings up 2.7.6 and python3 brings up 3.4.3
[13:05:35] * jthornton should write a relative arc generator for Gene
[13:08:58] <Jymmm> jthornton: Animals included?
[13:10:48] <Jymmm> jthornton:
https://img0.etsystatic.com/037/0/9077727/il_fullxfull.565084336_6ncm.jpg
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[13:34:34] * JT-Shop doesn't understand Jymmm
[13:37:22] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: 2015-12-10.05:05:35 jthornton should write a relative ___arc generator___ for Gene
[13:39:08] <JT-Shop> but first I must fix the lights in the garage
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[14:44:22] * JT-Shop found something he has not seen in a long while
[14:44:47] <ssi> ?
[14:44:58] <archivist> the table top
[14:45:49] <ssi> ah yes, that rare and elusive creature
[14:51:04] <_methods> they exist?
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[14:53:25] <JT-Shop> the garage floor
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[14:55:48] <vexation> forgot what that looks like
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[15:39:22] <zeeshan> >:) nice jt
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[15:43:49] <ssi> blah
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[15:47:28] <zeeshan> hi ian
[15:47:29] <zeeshan> :P
[15:47:33] <zeeshan> what are you upto
[15:52:04] <ssi> work :'(
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[15:54:25] <zeeshan> hehe
[15:54:26] <zeeshan> same here
[15:54:45] <ssi> I've been moving this week
[15:54:48] <ssi> moving into a new apt
[15:54:58] <ssi> I have real internet at home now
[15:54:59] <ssi> it's a miracle
[15:55:59] <archivist> house not done yet?
[15:56:23] <ssi> not entirely
[15:56:27] <ssi> but I'm not moving back there
[15:56:49] <zeeshan> why not
[15:57:03] <ssi> reasons mostly
[15:57:07] <ssi> also things
[15:58:26] <Erant> Sorry to hear.
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[17:52:27] <maxcnc> Hi all what a nice day of milling here in Germany weather is so fine for the Dezember month
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[17:56:45] <DaPeace> aus welcher ecke von germany bist du? ;-)
[17:57:03] <maxcnc> Zweibrücken
[17:57:19] <DaPeace> ah ok :-D ich wohn im nachbarland
[17:57:35] <maxcnc> da gibts viele von mir aus
[17:57:43] <DaPeace> *g* österreich
[17:57:44] <DaPeace> tirol
[17:57:56] <maxcnc> cool
[17:58:08] <maxcnc> is there snow at your home
[17:58:29] <DaPeace> nope. at the moment its not that much.. snowmachines are running all the time for the tourists
[17:58:51] <maxcnc> i saw it on the weather cams this morning
[17:59:04] <maxcnc> energy waste for fun
[17:59:11] <DaPeace> yes. for sure..
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[18:25:09] <CaptHindsight> same in the US >15C today in the midwest
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[19:37:03] <Magnifikus> anyone got ideas for an usb based remote based on a µC?
[19:37:06] <Magnifikus> got the msp430 in mind
[19:37:37] <Magnifikus> should get a small display for DTO plus buttons for pause/start jogging etc
[19:37:41] <CaptHindsight> remote what?
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[19:41:28] <cradek> a lot of people are using that xhc (?) device
[19:41:40] <cradek> you might look into what it does
[19:41:47] <cradek> (I've never seen/used one)
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[19:50:12] <maxcnc> i got now 20 of them
[19:50:20] <maxcnc> and it works like a charme
[19:50:38] <maxcnc> you even dont need to toch the pc from mashine power
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[20:01:13] <CaptHindsight> Magnifikus: could you please make one using a stm32 microcontroller and post all the source and schematics
[20:01:27] <CaptHindsight> and try to use uwe's
http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/libopenstm32-a-free-software-firmware-library-for-stm32-arm-cortex-m3-microcontrollers
[20:01:53] <Magnifikus> i kinda hate stm32 :P
[20:02:02] <Magnifikus> and its somewhat op for that task
[20:02:12] <CaptHindsight> could you do it anyway?
[20:02:34] <cncbasher> build the one one franks workshop
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[20:02:53] <Magnifikus> and im somewhat done with toolchains :D
http://thetoolchain.com/
[20:03:10] <Magnifikus> nope :P
[20:03:42] <Magnifikus> http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/CNC/LathePendant/LathePendant.htm that?
[20:03:55] <cncbasher> yep
[20:03:59] <Magnifikus> yeah something like that just smaller
[20:04:11] <cncbasher> yea it is a bit chunky
[20:04:32] <cncbasher> i use the xhc-04 , easier than making one
[20:04:52] <Magnifikus> yeah but :D
[20:04:59] <Magnifikus> http://www.ebay.de/itm/140799023462?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT this is attached to the machine now
[20:05:08] <Magnifikus> but i hate jogging with touch it sucks
[20:06:32] <Magnifikus> waaaah this fusion 360 is kinda wtf btw
[20:06:34] <CaptHindsight> what kind of a person hates stm32? :)
[20:06:40] <Magnifikus> me
[20:06:43] <Magnifikus> :P
[20:07:08] <Magnifikus> so i would need a programmer/devboard for that stuff
[20:07:18] <cncbasher> https://hackaday.io/project/230-openxhc
[20:07:20] <Magnifikus> a msp430 usb launchpad is here on my desk
[20:07:52] <cncbasher> iv'e got one never even connected it yet , and it's been their for about a year
[20:07:58] <CaptHindsight> but isn't that made by TI?
[20:08:02] <Magnifikus> cool will steal that :D
[20:08:03] <Magnifikus> yeah
[20:08:04] <andypugh> I don’t think jogging with touch is even safe
[20:08:14] <Magnifikus> the company sending me samples every month for free :D
[20:08:26] <cncbasher> no i wouldnn't trust it
[20:08:34] <cradek> use touchy!
[20:08:35] <Magnifikus> cant be worse than usb keyboard :D
[20:08:56] <Magnifikus> in want to shrink moccapy down
[20:09:02] <Magnifikus> to the 800x600 screen
[20:09:14] <Magnifikus> also i dont need alot of features on the screen, like tools etc
[20:09:18] <andypugh> Touchy + a jogwheel works nicely for me:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WAFKZNDs8P9oZeiXKTKNANMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[20:09:38] <Magnifikus> that looks nice indeed
[20:09:55] <cradek> touchy will work fine on any size screen
[20:10:18] <cradek> (I just love those buttons)
[20:10:36] <Magnifikus> but no preview?
[20:10:54] <cradek> not in the basic configuration, but you can add a preview tab
[20:11:05] <Magnifikus> like to see the program dimensions so i wont mill into the machine top :D
[20:11:26] <cradek> I write the gcode on another machine (with a keyboard) and verify it there
[20:11:57] <andypugh> I have run Touchy at 2560x1440 through ssh (iMac display)
[20:12:05] <cradek> ha
[20:12:17] <andypugh> But adding the preview tab is straightforward, I believe.
[20:12:34] <cradek> one of our samples may even have it already
[20:14:26] <Magnifikus> also good practice for our selected students etc to verify it before pressing start
[20:14:34] <Magnifikus> its a small old isel in our lab
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[20:39:50] <CaptHindsight> Magnifikus: does TI send you any parts worth using? They are always trying to get me to use older parts that nobody wants anymore.
[20:40:57] <Magnifikus> eh you go to the page and sample stuff, 3 days later you get them :D
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[20:41:14] <Magnifikus> got about 20 msp430 laying here
[20:42:25] <CaptHindsight> I was happy to pay for OMAP samples and similar SOC's but they wanted me to go through some 3rd party module maker
[20:43:23] <CaptHindsight> and pay ~$150 for a module vs $20 for the SOC and make my own
[20:44:19] <Magnifikus> if i need something fast and dirty i just use a pi
[20:44:22] <Magnifikus> or an fpga
[20:44:34] <Magnifikus> and if i need something good, i use a zynq :D
[20:46:13] <Sync> I just got me some AM335x samples to decap
[20:47:28] <_methods> pics or it didn't happen
[20:47:29] <_methods> hehe
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[20:49:21] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20151209-teen-3d-printed-flamethrower-drone-incinerates-holiday-turkey.html
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[20:52:46] <Magnifikus> dunno im not into that stm32 stuff
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[20:54:17] <_methods> i see your flame thrower and raise it one potato gun
[20:54:19] <_methods> http://imgur.com/gallery/dRbkSrG
[20:55:58] <CaptHindsight> 2 things that could sell well this holiday season
[20:56:22] <_methods> hehe
[20:56:37] <chris_99> didn't someone sell flamethrowers on KS?
[20:57:08] <_methods> sustainable flame thrower
[20:57:19] <CaptHindsight> so to be clear, assault rifle and handguns = good, flaming potato cannon or flamethrower drone = bad
[20:57:21] <_methods> in upcycled pallet shipping crate lol
[20:57:39] <chris_99> haha CaptHindsight
[21:02:46] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: spaceballs the flamethrower -- the kids love it
[21:03:28] <rene-dev_> andypugh just played with your lathe macros, is that a known feature that the spindle sometimes does not stop?
[21:03:41] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-hAo_VHEwU did you guys ever make these as kids? Tennis ball cannon from soda cans
[21:04:14] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: no, when I was young I mostly focused on rocket stuff
[21:04:24] <andypugh> Not all of the macros stop the spindle
[21:04:32] <CaptHindsight> tiwake: we made those to
[21:04:34] <tiwake> model rockets, bottle rockets, and making my own of both kinds
[21:04:57] <tiwake> graduated to making my own rocket engines
[21:05:00] <andypugh> rene-dev_: You can add an M2 to the g-code related to each routine
[21:05:05] <tiwake> then learned math to make better rocket engines
[21:05:14] <andypugh> Err. M4 I mean
[21:05:20] <tiwake> then became a machinist to make even better rocket engines
[21:05:27] <rene-dev_> I know, but sometimes it just stops automaticly
[21:05:30] <tiwake> now here I am
[21:05:32] <tiwake> lol
[21:05:43] <andypugh> Or is it M5? I can’t believe how vague I am on this :-)
[21:06:16] <rene-dev_> like g0 or g1, doesnt make much difference
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[21:06:34] <FAalbers> Oohh !!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/11/transparent-aluminum/
[21:06:38] <andypugh> rene-dev_: Most of the macros stop automatically and place the tool at the finish dimension so you can measure and touch-off to what the micrometer says
[21:07:03] <rene-dev_> they are generally working good, once I figured out that the starting position is important
[21:07:13] <andypugh> The ones that you won’t measure (like radius and chanfer) don’t bother stoppping.
[21:07:45] <andypugh> Yes, they all take starting position as an input.
[21:08:04] <tiwake> FAalbers: shiny
[21:08:15] <skunkworks> I found if you created multible sparks down the center of the chamber (potatogun) you got a bigger bang.
[21:08:19] <tiwake> FAalbers: I wonder if its a conductor of heat
[21:08:25] <rene-dev_> yes, I was dry cutting, and fun things are happening when you start in the workpiece :D
[21:08:32] <andypugh> This is important with threading if you need a second pass, you need to start from exactly the same Z. Though it does print the starting Z to make that a tad easier.
[21:08:52] <rene-dev_> ah, ok
[21:09:24] <FAalbers> tiwake,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkqiDu1BQXY
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[21:09:54] <tiwake> FAalbers: why bring up star trek?
[21:10:12] <andypugh> So, that makes ordniary glass transparent silicon and perspex transparent carbon?
[21:11:24] <FAalbers> tiwake, Did you watch it ? It's about transparent aluminum :)
[21:11:35] <tiwake> FAalbers: no, I don't watch star trek :P
[21:11:48] <FAalbers> ok
[21:12:02] <tiwake> andypugh: and carbon is pretty transparent to heat and visible light
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[21:12:44] <tiwake> although, dosent "glass" mean a non-structured arrangement of atoms?
[21:13:07] <tiwake> as in, not a crystal
[21:13:15] <tiwake> such as amorphous metal
[21:13:27] <andypugh> tiwake: Yes, diamond certainly is. But you would’
[21:13:49] <andypugh> wouldn’t call perspex diamond just because it has some carbon in it.
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[21:14:24] <andypugh> And that “transparent alumiumium” is simply a cerramic with some aluminium content.
[21:14:31] <CaptHindsight> Aluminum Oxynitride
[21:14:40] <CaptHindsight> http://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=8095
[21:17:23] <CaptHindsight> stops flaming potatoes as well as 50cal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnUszxx2pYc
[21:17:33] <andypugh> Sapphire is largely transparent. Nobody tries to make that sound more futuristic by calling it “transparent alumium” but it is very much transparent alumina.
[21:18:36] <CaptHindsight> it's very similar to the anodize on aluminum
[21:19:45] <gregcnc> we used soupcans and wd40 to shoot tennis balls
[21:20:25] <CaptHindsight> soda cans and lighter fluid and later hair spray
[21:21:46] <gregcnc> we never did the spud gun thing
[21:21:57] <CaptHindsight> back when chemistry sets still had chemicals
[21:24:26] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: of course current ones still have chemicals. just tame ones
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[21:24:39] <XXCoder> unless you mean liquidified spacetime set? heh
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[21:25:47] <andypugh> Right, off to wire a Lemo, but with my new criming tool this time.
[21:25:55] <andypugh> crimping, even.
[21:26:01] <XXCoder> LOL
https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_three_laws_of_robotics.png
[21:27:34] <andypugh> Does anyone know what the braided shield is meant to do inside a Lemo connector?
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[21:41:32] <Tom_itx> a guess.. maybe prevent crosstalk?
[21:41:57] <andypugh> No, I mean, where is it meant to go...
[21:42:01] <XXCoder> if connected at ends, probably grounding
[21:42:04] <Tom_itx> oh
[21:42:15] <Tom_itx> yeah probably to the housing
[21:42:36] <Tom_itx> is the housing metalic?
[21:42:51] <andypugh> Som connectors clearly intend the shield to be clamped between some parts, but that doesn’t seem oviously to be the case with a Lemo
[21:43:27] <Tom_itx> not familiar with that connector
[21:43:46] <andypugh> I guessed :-) But thanks for trying to help.
[21:44:18] <andypugh> This is the connector.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CpdSZh9eV-HQPmdvKqqNK9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[21:45:28] <andypugh> Probably the nicest conector that there are.
[21:47:15] <Tom_itx> yeah i saw what you were working with the other day
[21:47:29] <skunkworks> andypugh: did you get the castings back?
[21:47:34] <Tom_itx> those look like pretty fine pins
[21:47:40] <Tom_itx> low current stuff?
[21:47:55] <andypugh> Resolver feedback
[21:47:59] <Tom_itx> yeah
[21:48:15] <andypugh> They do an enormous array of configurations, though.
[21:48:27] <Tom_itx> is it one internal shield or several?
[21:48:48] <Tom_itx> looks like something NASA would use only theirs are screw connectors
[21:48:54] <andypugh> Catalogue:
http://www.lemo.com/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
[21:50:13] <andypugh> They go up to 0AWG wire and down to 30AWG
[21:51:26] <gregcnc> it seems the suggested stripping lengths would not give you much choice
[21:52:00] <gregcnc> the assembly diagram is vague
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[21:54:00] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Actually, that connector is rated at 6A.
[21:54:12] <Tom_itx> gold plated?
[21:54:17] <Tom_itx> looks really nice
[21:54:45] <andypugh> Yes, gold-plated contacts. PEEK insulation and nickel-plated brass bodies
[21:55:04] <Tom_itx> not your average chinese connector
[21:56:39] <andypugh> About £57 for each half normally, but I have been buying:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141836004296
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[22:06:10] <Loetmichel2> sooo, one last beer and then bedtime ;) ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16068&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 (funny thing this plastic ball inside the can filled with N2 ;-)
[22:06:36] <andypugh> The “widget"
[22:07:03] <andypugh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_(beer)
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[22:08:14] <JT-Shop> oh crap, my web hosting is phasing out PHP 5.3 and my web store runs on it :(
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[22:09:31] <JT-Shop> and the turds set it to 5.5 without asking
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[22:14:00] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, does the webstore run on 5.5? or not backward compatible..
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[22:14:36] <JT-Shop> no, I need to upgrade it but can't even access it now!
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[22:16:44] <SpeedEvil> Possibly a vuln has been found to be being exploited?
[22:18:27] <JT-Shop> vuln?
[22:18:45] <Tom_itx> a gremlin only much worse?
[22:19:03] <SpeedEvil> vulnerability
[22:20:09] <JT-Shop> oh I need PHP 5.2
[22:21:31] <Hecke> Hi, i am new to linuxcnc and actually retrofitting a hermle uwf700cnc. Setting up the axis works pretts good. now i am looking for a possibility to integrate the electronic gearbox. its very similar to a maho700. maybe anybody has a configuration that works?
[22:25:37] <JT-Shop> there is a gear something component
[22:25:44] <JT-Shop> gear change I think
[22:26:31] <Hecke> yes, but its only for two speeds
[22:27:33] <Deejay> gn8
[22:27:40] <Hecke> i have to control three motors to set the gears. the feedback comes from switches with a bitpattern.
[22:27:41] <JT-Shop> goodnight Deejay
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[22:28:18] <JT-Shop> sounds like you need to create a component
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[22:30:10] <Hecke> i have searched for examples creating components, but the way to connect the component with the pins isnt clear up to know
[22:30:16] <Hecke> now
[22:31:20] <Hecke> is it correct, that the execution of the component is each time the thread, i.e. servo thread, is called?
[22:31:21] <JT-Shop> does the spindle speed requested control the gear change?
[22:31:40] <JT-Shop> yes for floating point
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[22:32:33] <Hecke> thats what i want to have. there is no control module between the gearbox and the mesa card.
[22:34:04] <Hecke> so i would check the speed command and differentiate the gears
[22:34:49] <JT-Shop> so you can't change speed on the fly but from stand still only?
[22:35:02] <Hecke> correct
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[22:36:33] <Hecke> i want to use a vfd to control the motor, but the gears should give me more power at the tool
[22:38:18] <Hecke> if i would do the complete gearchange in with a component, that is called every servo thread time, wouldnt it be complicated because the exection of the gearchange takes about 10-30sec and the thread is called too often?
[22:38:23] <JT-Shop> I'm just thinking about it
[22:38:45] <JT-Shop> no, you make your comp wait for complete
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[22:40:24] <Hecke> ok, checking if the speed has changed will go fast and in case i could set the gears with the comp.
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[22:41:10] <Hecke> by using a lookup tabel for turning the gearbox motors cw or ccw
[22:41:45] <JT-Shop> sounds plausible to me
[22:41:55] <Hecke> when i use the spindel at speed signal i could stop the g code execution until gears have changed
[22:42:04] <JT-Shop> yes
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[22:43:46] <Hecke> does the comp support something like hardware timers on microcontroller? maybe i have to pulse the spindelmotor cw and ccw for a softer gearchange
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[22:44:25] <Hecke> or is this only possible with classic ladder timers?
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[22:46:03] <JT-Shop> I would think classicladder would be the place to do timers
[22:46:21] <JT-Shop> your component can communicate with classicladder
[22:46:54] <JT-Shop> ie set a bit on a rung to start the gear change and wait for complete then either can set spindle at speed
[22:47:37] <JT-Shop> they did fix my webstore :) now I have to upgrade
[22:48:21] <Tom_itx> good thing you like to code
[22:48:49] <Hecke> ok, seems i am on the right way. where do i connect the signals from comp., classic ladder and linuxcnc? all in the hal file?
[22:49:17] <JT-Shop> I just need to back up then install the new version.... I think
[22:49:28] <JT-Shop> yep hal is your friend
[22:50:02] <JT-Shop> some info on classicladder
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/ladder/index.html
[22:52:00] <Hecke> thx, classic ladder seems to be very logic. i ve tried some blinking stuff and toolchange hydraulic control already, simulation works goods up to now
[22:52:53] <Hecke> where is the difference between a comp file and a cc file? i have seen examples using both, xhc04
[22:56:44] <JT-Shop> a comp file is created and installed with the HAL component generator
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/comp.html
[22:56:46] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, do you know if SW lets you do dynamic sectioning?
[22:57:01] <JT-Shop> and the cc files must be compiled I think
[22:57:12] <JT-Shop> what do you mean Tom_itx?
[22:57:56] <Tom_itx> oh nm.. this isn't what i thought it was. i know how to do a sectional view in SW already
[22:58:04] <Tom_itx> looking over the catia docs
[22:58:35] <Hecke> thx JT-Shop
[22:59:14] <Hecke> i will try to get it working and you helped me a lot :)
[23:00:07] <Hecke> its already late here in krauts land and i ll got to bed :D
[23:01:28] <Hecke> gn8
[23:01:45] <JT-Shop> ok Hecke good luck
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[23:07:48] <andypugh> Ah… He went
[23:08:34] <JT-Shop> he'll be back
[23:08:40] <JT-Shop> you have some info for him?
[23:09:07] <andypugh> I was just going to say that you can use fperiod in comp for a timer
[23:09:19] <andypugh> And that, actually, you can’t wait in a component.
[23:09:33] <andypugh> (unless it’s a userspace component)
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[23:11:03] <JT-Shop> you could wait for an input so to speak right?
[23:11:16] <JT-Shop> if input then do something
[23:12:59] <JT-Shop> wow I've had 68k unique visitors to my web site this year
[23:14:30] <andypugh> In a realtime compu you run a state machine, that exits doing nothing until something happens, then changes state
[23:14:54] <Jymmm> andypugh: get the memo?
[23:15:12] <andypugh> Cray-2/4 824 MIPS. iPhone 5S 18200 MIPS.
[23:15:30] <Jymmm> Needs more LN2
[23:15:47] <andypugh> memo?
[23:16:00] <Jymmm> andypugh: /ms read
[23:16:20] <Jymmm> or /ms help
[23:16:52] <andypugh> “Notice from memoserve: You are not logged in”
[23:17:27] <Jymmm> 2015-12-09.17:41:29 MemoServ: The memo has been successfully sent to andypugh.
[23:17:34] <Jymmm> 2015-12-10.15:16:52 andypugh: “Notice from memoserve: You are not logged in”
[23:19:59] <andypugh> So, no, I didn’t, and can’t, get the memo
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[23:24:29] <andypugh> .msg memoserv read
[23:24:34] <andypugh> Doh!
[23:28:24] <Computer_barf> i was watching a video in which someone turned some wood on a metal lathe
[23:28:42] <Computer_barf> he mentioned that he anticipated alot of people complaining about that in the comments
[23:28:44] <andypugh> Was it me?
[23:29:13] <Computer_barf> idk did you make a screwdriver on your lathe?
[23:29:31] <andypugh> No:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oye3BxqXKmw
[23:30:09] <Computer_barf> I was just wondering though, what exactly are the concerns about wood material with a metal lathe? I suppose it could make a carbon grit but i would think it would be softer than metal
[23:30:33] <andypugh> The only proplem is that the tool geometry is all wrong
[23:31:07] <andypugh> If you look at how a woodturning chisel meets the work, it is very different from a metal turning insert.
[23:31:07] <Computer_barf> ahh, he had mentioned cleaning it extra good which made me think friction objections
[23:31:25] <andypugh> The sawdust will absorb all the oil, too.
[23:31:25] <Computer_barf> i mean, obviously you could always clean your machine well for that reaon
[23:31:58] <Computer_barf> ahh yes, part of the cleanup was re-oiling the machine
[23:32:11] <JT-Shop> wood is very abrasive
[23:33:01] <Computer_barf> I wouldn't think it.. i mean lignan and fiber?
[23:33:24] <Computer_barf> moreso than say, aluminum?
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[23:36:17] <Computer_barf> http://www.blog.turnedwoodenbowls.com/?page_id=485
[23:36:30] <Computer_barf> interest point there on the rust
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[23:55:19] <JT-Shop> finally getting SW updated after hd crash some 6 months ago
