#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-11-29

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[00:01:14] <andypugh> Pah! Safety is for the dumb!
[00:01:35] <PetefromTn_> heh
[00:01:49] <PetefromTn_> it's to protect the dumb...and inattentive LOL
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[00:02:28] <enleth> andypugh: that's our laser cutter, mind the sign on the wall: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12244438_1196863453673457_5204751017583113225_o.jpg
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[00:03:37] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[00:05:13] <andypugh> I just put a new kick-start spring on the Ner-a-Car. You only need to undo one nut and bolt to do that. But, first you need to remove the light switch to get enough room to fit your hand under the engine to get a spanner on the engine bolts to remove the engine. And you need to remove the engine to get access to the clutch cable that you need to disconnect to get the transmission shaft out. And you need the transmissi
[00:05:14] <andypugh> shaft out to be able to get a socket onto the nut that holds the kick-start…
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[00:06:04] <andypugh> enleth: Carol must have been really careless to zap _both_ eyes :-)
[00:06:06] <PetefromTn_> piece of cake
[00:06:32] <enleth> I think the only thing this mill lacks is a mechanical quill feed lever for drilling, but that's obviously impossible with a ballscrew quill
[00:07:02] <enleth> And it does have a canned peck drilling cycle in the original control, so it's manageable
[00:07:16] <andypugh> enleth: Not _impossible_. You could have coaxial telescopic quills.
[00:08:20] <enleth> That sounds complicated, expensive and wobbly-bendy
[00:08:56] <enleth> Did anyone actually do this?
[00:09:29] <andypugh> I doubt it, but you never know. There have been some strange things.
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[00:10:04] <andypugh> I just tend to see the phrase “obviously impossible” as a challenge :-)
[00:10:45] <enleth> Well, my "obviously impossible" usually implies "for any practical purposes"
[00:11:29] <PetefromTn_> its just practically impossible.....kinda like my toolchanger function ;)
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[00:12:01] <Loetmichel> btw: did i mentoin that my wife has bought a new tshort for me? it states "Wir sind hier nicht bei 'Wünsch dir was', wir sind hier bei 'So isses'" ... it seems i have voiced my complaints about our customers that demand near impossible things for no extra charge at all one time to often. She said to wear that when the customer in question is at the company the next time ;)
[00:12:05] <enleth> Speaking of which, I think I have seen someone make/retrofit a toolchanger to a Series 1 CNC
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[00:13:42] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: wut?¿
[00:13:48] <Loetmichel> ("Wünsch dir was" and "so isses" are two popular TV shows in germany... the first meaning "make a whish" the second "thats how it is")
[00:14:21] <enleth> But it required quite a bit of clearance under the tool to pull it out without colliding with the workpiece, which of course means that the table needs to be lower than it could be comfortably set with the operator changing the tools
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[00:15:25] <enleth> Not sure if it's worth having the quill overextended all the time to have automatic tool changes on a machine like this
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[00:16:56] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: it means: "we are not at "make a whish" here. we are at "thats the way it goes"
[00:17:31] <Loetmichel> ... we had a customer lately that change the specs of a device repeatedly... when we were alread producing it
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[00:17:47] <Loetmichel> ... and expeced us to do the changes for free
[00:18:04] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: I prefer "Price is adjusted according to customer's attitude".
[00:19:50] <PetefromTn_> I prefer this....you can have it two of three ways.....Fast, Cheap, nice.... You pick the two.....the third you have to live without LOL
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[00:22:54] <Loetmichel> our boss has this set phrase he uses all the time when it comes to shortcomings in design... "tempest is kein wunschkonzert" ("tempest is no request concert")... meaning that the restrictions of needed shielding sometimes come out ugly.
[00:23:11] <Loetmichel> ... i think my wife was going in that direction...
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[00:48:52] <seb_kuzminsky> automata_: i plan to put linux 3.16/rtai 5.0-etest1 packages on www.linuxcnc.org in the next day or so and announce it to the lists
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[03:45:05] <Jymmm> Kinda interesting... How It's Made - McIntosh Tube Amp - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HgS6gvokEI
[03:46:26] <PetefromTn_> Ooh thats pretty!!
[03:48:08] <Jymmm> =)
[03:50:04] <XXCoder> ohhh
[03:50:09] <XXCoder> love that series lemme look
[03:50:39] <XXCoder> I love how guy speaks so clearly autocaptions almost always work.
[03:52:21] <PetefromTn_> Damn that is a thing of beauty...
[03:52:28] <XXCoder> it is
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[03:55:32] <XXCoder> nice how its made video
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[04:37:22] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/nema14-stepper-motor
[04:37:35] <XXCoder> 14
[04:37:37] <XXCoder> thats new
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[08:01:44] <Deejay> moin
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[09:53:13] <io> Hi at all. I want compile actual master version on ubuntu 10.04 LTS , but is not have python 2.7. exist a procedure for install it and library for compile linuxcnc-dev ?
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[10:30:34] <CaptHindsight> io: 10.04 is an old release
[10:31:17] <CaptHindsight> did python 2.7 even exist back then?
[10:34:06] <CaptHindsight> how will you deal with all the other dependency issues that will probably come up?
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[11:24:17] <jthornton> morning
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[12:03:48] <jthornton> hmm glade doesn't see the linuxcnc widgets on mint
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[12:20:06] <jthornton> this doesn't look good for me https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/48-gladevcp/28147-no-linuxcnc-widgets-with-wheezy-iso-2-6-0-pre5
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[13:54:02] <Jymmm> malcom2073_: Your rocket stove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDU3-y8tFEA
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[13:58:55] <jthornton> you don't need a torch to bend rebar lol
[13:59:31] <XXCoder> just hire hulk you'll be fine
[14:00:16] <malcom2073_> Saw "TexasPrepper" username, was not disappointed
[14:02:37] <malcom2073_> I don't need a rocket stove though, but thanks :P
[14:02:44] <malcom2073_> I cook with electricity, like a modern person n stuff
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[14:05:31] <jthornton> I cook with propane
[14:06:11] <Jymmm> malcom2073_: Oh, I thought it was you that was building one
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[14:06:27] <malcom2073_> Newp
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[14:08:30] <Jymmm> Ah...
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[14:08:50] <Jymmm> _methods: Your rocket stove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDU3-y8tFEA
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[14:11:54] <Jymmm> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bmddztd672usiuk/2015-11-21%2008.36.28.jpg?dl=0
[14:13:07] <Jymmm> malcom2073_: Electricity sucks for generating heat
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[14:14:12] <malcom2073_> yeah
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[14:16:50] <SpeedEvil> Electricity can generate heat at 500% efficiency.
[14:16:56] <SpeedEvil> (heat pumps)
[14:17:21] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: Yeah, try that when it's > 45F outside
[14:17:31] <Jymmm> less then
[14:18:11] <Jymmm> then it takes 3x the energy to produce the same amount of heat.
[14:18:14] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: you can't use shit heatpumps
[14:19:01] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: These are HVAC ones. My neighbor's runs all night... defrost cycle, heat, defrost cycle. Lather rinse, repeat.
[14:19:03] <SpeedEvil> Quality ones are OK with low temperatures - the maximum efficient output drops a fair bit, but the efficiency remains >3 even at 0F for good ones
[14:21:26] <SpeedEvil> I would at this point post nice curves for the expensive class of heatpump, but have mislaid them, so meh.
[14:21:35] <Jymmm> Except the before and after defrost cycles.
[14:22:53] <SpeedEvil> Averaged over time.
[14:23:22] <Jymmm> NOT
[14:24:18] <Jymmm> From 48F to 110F, sure no problem, great stuff.
[14:25:05] <Jymmm> below that, what would take 6 minutes to heat, now takes 16 minutes.
[14:25:29] <Jymmm> and this is just maintaing temp, not bring up to temp.
[14:25:54] <Jymmm> so 2 degree rise.
[14:26:08] <SpeedEvil> Yes, I said that max output drops a lot.
[14:27:35] <Jymmm> but tossing in the "average over time" gives a skewed perspective for someone considering one (which I had to learn the hard way =)
[14:28:40] <Jymmm> time to reload the wood stove =)
[14:31:05] <SpeedEvil> I note the context I'm in is considering heating a structure with a thermal constant that will end up around a month.
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[14:31:55] <Jymmm> the building will cease to exist in a month?
[14:32:17] <Jymmm> or the conditions needing the heat will
[14:32:47] <SpeedEvil> Thermal constant.
[14:33:00] <ReadError> https://www.instagram.com/p/-rBBH7SkaF/?taken-by=readerror67
[14:33:04] <Jymmm> um, okeeeeeey
[14:33:07] <ReadError> my progress last night ;)
[14:33:12] <SpeedEvil> That is - it will take a month to drop about 30% of the way to ambient
[14:33:33] <XXCoder> more insulation, stat
[14:34:06] <SpeedEvil> It's more that there is several hundred tons of stone as a thermal mass.
[14:35:01] <Jymmm> Oh come on... tons of stone is not a norm
[14:35:09] <anomynous> what is rigid and cheap plastic
[14:35:18] <Jymmm> pvc?
[14:35:24] <SpeedEvil> anomynous: define rigid.
[14:35:38] <Jymmm> anomynous: non metalic conduit
[14:35:45] <SpeedEvil> anomynous: Most plastics except a few are more-or-less as stiff as each other.
[14:35:47] <Jymmm> anomynous: sewer drain pipe
[14:35:50] <SpeedEvil> And that's not very stiff.
[14:36:14] <SpeedEvil> Section probably matters more than individual properties in many cases. Fibreglass can be lots stiffer.
[14:36:25] <SpeedEvil> And carbon fibre reinforced can be very, very stiff
[14:36:27] <Jymmm> anomynous: whats the application?
[14:36:57] <anomynous> nothing too special. I just want to mill a slot for cd and make a handle and use grinding paper to fix dvds
[14:37:15] <anomynous> rigid enough so it would stay in shape
[14:37:20] <Jymmm> acrylic or plexigalss
[14:37:25] <anomynous> pom?
[14:37:55] <Jymmm> what's POM ?
[14:38:08] <anomynous> a plastic
[14:38:35] <SpeedEvil> acetyl
[14:38:57] <Jymmm> anomynous: just use another cd/dvd as the substrate
[14:39:06] <anomynous> substrate?
[14:39:10] <Jymmm> or a hdpe chopping board
[14:39:43] <Jymmm> or even a piece of 1/8" alum
[14:39:48] <anomynous> i thought if i would make a few and try to sell them. I paid 30€ for a nice looking piece of garbage which doesn't work.
[14:40:09] <SpeedEvil> It is important that the other side doesn't move. Ideally you would hold it by the edges and hole only
[14:40:22] <SpeedEvil> The top may only have a thin paint-layer
[14:40:32] <anomynous> SpeedEvil, i was thinking of spayable rubber
[14:40:37] <anomynous> on to the plastic
[14:41:05] <Jymmm> plastidip
[14:41:13] <Jymmm> plastidip in spray can form
[14:43:04] <archivist> SpeedEvil, have you added insulation externally?
[14:43:12] <malcom2073_> Hehe, people plastidipping their cars, you seen that Jymmm?
[14:43:16] <SpeedEvil> archivist: I will be.
[14:43:22] <SpeedEvil> archivist: It's taking too long :/
[14:43:30] <Jymmm> malcom2073_: Yep, some look really nice too.
[14:44:13] <archivist> SpeedEvil, my house would look wrong in this street, all external brick circa 1962
[14:44:19] <Jymmm> has anyone ever seen 1/2" expanded steel that's at least 1/8" thick?
[14:44:54] <SpeedEvil> archivist: It's isolated, so adding 20cm onto all external surfaces isn't so much of an issue.
[14:45:10] <archivist> lucky
[14:45:15] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: What do you mean by that? Do you mean expanded steel formed from 1/8" thick steel:?
[14:45:34] <SpeedEvil> I could (if I totally lost the paths) add 60cm.
[14:45:40] <SpeedEvil> But that might be going a bit far.
[14:45:48] <archivist> just a bit!
[14:46:31] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: 1/2" holes, but from 1/8" thick steel, yes. (Instead of the more common 1" or 1.25" holes)
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[14:49:06] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: This is why I'm looking for 1/8" thick... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1omACP7KiY (not my video btw)
[14:49:52] <XXCoder> that video makes me sick, literally
[14:49:57] <XXCoder> bad camerawork
[14:50:40] <SpeedEvil> http://viralcovert.com/jackpot-winner-dies-after-attempting-to-gold-plate-his-balls/
[14:50:48] <Jymmm> XXCoder: You sure it wasn't the 14 empty bottles of boose laying around ?
[14:50:58] <XXCoder> I don't drink
[14:51:31] <archivist> Jymmm, use cast iron
[14:52:23] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: that takes balls
[14:52:35] <Jymmm> archivist: Is there such a thing as expanded cast iron ?
[14:52:35] <XXCoder> and rather lacking on brains
[14:52:51] <Jymmm> XXCoder: See, evolution does work =)
[14:52:57] <XXCoder> yep
[14:53:00] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: no
[14:53:08] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: cast iron is not malleable enough for that to work
[14:53:18] <XXCoder> Jymmm: take cast iron and drill lots holes?
[14:53:20] <SpeedEvil> gilding/gelding.
[14:53:25] <XXCoder> with cnc
[14:53:33] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: this is for a wood firebox?
[14:54:00] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: I wanted to test pellets for the hellva it.
[14:54:03] <SpeedEvil> ah
[14:54:10] <Jymmm> $5 for 40lbs of them
[14:54:20] <Jymmm> worht looking at at least
[14:54:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.86expandedmetalmesh.com/products_list/&pmcId=31.html - as a base-layer - thick stainless expanded goes up to 16kg/m^2, with a disposable mesh over?
[14:54:44] <SpeedEvil> I don't know how well it'd hold up
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[14:57:17] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: $3 works for me http://imgur.com/Fdbz1D0
[14:57:34] <SpeedEvil> Or that
[14:58:14] <Jymmm> Just need to find cheap annealed SS wire for a handle
[14:58:41] <Jymmm> eh, rebar wire
[15:03:08] <XXCoder> rebar made from rebars
[15:09:42] <malcom2073_> Yo dawg I heard you liked rebars in your rebar
[15:17:29] <XXCoder> rebars all way down
[15:18:00] <JT-Shop> dang a dead deer is in the yard
[15:18:14] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Lunch?
[15:18:26] <SpeedEvil> Was it coming right for you?
[15:19:35] <Jymmm> HAHA Love #25 http://viralcovert.com/25-pregnant-women-who-totally-nailed-their-halloween-outfits/
[15:19:59] <JT-Shop> went down to get the paper and noticed it
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[17:07:26] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, someone shoot it?
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[17:39:30] <maxcnc> Good evening Winter Storm outside doing some G-coding for this weeks work
[17:41:10] <Deejay> you must be in germany ;)
[17:41:20] <maxcnc> Question on Documentation is there a fixed person how does this work
[17:41:44] <maxcnc> Deejay: yes around Zweibrücken
[17:41:52] <archivist> fixed person?
[17:42:10] <maxcnc> the driling examples are not inline with the pictures provided
[17:42:18] <archivist> rewrite sentence
[17:42:38] <maxcnc> archivist sorry my eng is not that good
[17:42:52] <archivist> you can send in a patch
[17:43:21] <archivist> you can poke JT-Shop about docs too
[17:43:24] <maxcnc> thats for shure over mi limitation of knolige
[17:44:05] <maxcnc> noone is to blame its a hard work and im thankfull of all the people do about that
[17:45:13] <maxcnc> the pictures refare to linenumbers Nxxx the examples do not have that
[17:47:19] <maxcnc> lets say like this http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/g-code.html#_why_use_a_canned_cycle
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[17:50:56] <maxcnc> shoudt be not that hard to fix al linenumbers coudt be insert to the g-code
[17:52:48] <Tom_itx> line numbers?
[17:52:52] <Tom_itx> they don't matter anyway
[17:52:58] <Tom_itx> linuxcnc ignores them
[17:53:11] <maxcnc> i know but the docu refers to them
[17:53:30] <maxcnc> therefor 2 numbers inside and done
[17:53:52] <maxcnc> so the picture is in line with the g-code
[17:54:12] <maxcnc> is aligned
[17:54:32] <maxcnc> <- searching for the right words to say it
[17:54:40] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/images/G81ex1.png
[17:54:41] <Tom_itx> that one?
[17:54:55] <maxcnc> no
[17:55:09] <maxcnc> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/images/eight.png
[17:55:25] <Tom_itx> oh
[17:55:37] <maxcnc> 37.7
[17:55:58] <maxcnc> second example the sqare of drills also
[17:56:20] <Tom_itx> you want line numbers on the "Eight Holes" code example
[17:56:36] <maxcnc> no i dont
[17:57:01] <maxcnc> it has to be readable in both ways picture to gcode and gcode to picture
[17:57:20] <Tom_itx> gocha
[17:57:41] * Tom_itx looks at JT-Shop
[17:57:58] <maxcnc> the picture refers to linenumbers in the gcode that arend there
[17:58:26] <maxcnc> or in the pictrer there shoudt be the g-code eqal
[17:58:26] <Tom_itx> yep the images were likely copied from a previous document reference
[17:58:33] <maxcnc> that makes the best sence
[17:58:36] <Tom_itx> these have been recently updated
[17:58:55] <maxcnc> Tkanks just telling
[17:59:02] <maxcnc> no blame
[17:59:02] <Tom_itx> i'll mention it to jt
[17:59:44] <maxcnc> picture eding is always the BAD way
[17:59:58] <Tom_itx> be easier just to add line numbers to the code
[18:00:03] <maxcnc> so just put linenumbers there is the easy way
[18:00:12] <maxcnc> ;-)
[18:00:20] <Tom_itx> unless he has those images
[18:03:43] <Jymmm> man nl FTW
[18:06:53] <maxcnc> Tom_itx: what are this parts called in english http://dxf-world.de/de/dxf-files/download/21-weihnachten/784-schwibbogen10.html
[18:08:31] <Tom_itx> google says arches
[18:08:41] <Tom_itx> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdxf-world.de%2Fde%2Fdxf-files%2Fdownload%2F21-weihnachten%2F784-schwibbogen10.html&edit-text=
[18:08:42] <archivist> is that some pretty thing like for a clock case top
[18:08:54] <Tom_itx> looks like it
[18:09:19] <maxcnc> its a xmas light for window frames here in germany
[18:09:47] <Tom_itx> ours are plastic and come from china :D
[18:10:13] <maxcnc> http://www.germandelights.com/products_wooden_handcrafts_double_arches.htm
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[18:10:26] <maxcnc> Schwibbogen (Double Arch)
[18:11:01] <maxcnc> thats why americans spens so many 140USD
[18:11:15] <maxcnc> its 3mm Wood and 10min of laser
[18:12:01] <Tom_itx> with a "Made in Germany" stamp on the back
[18:14:07] <maxcnc> thanks for the tip about arches i fouund what ive been looking for to make a good part for a costemer
[18:14:15] <Tom_itx> np
[18:15:03] <Jymmm> A CNC chainsaw might come in handy here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhh_i5wc2o
[18:16:03] <maxcnc> Jymmm: the university here in K-town put a chainsaw on a robot and did some design work
[18:16:14] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, they're called feller bunchers
[18:17:11] <Tom_itx> or 2 guys on the end of a pull saw
[18:17:15] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: with one inch accuracy per 10 acres?
[18:17:16] <PetefromTn_> hey that is pretty nice nativity scene
[18:17:39] <maxcnc> yust google picturers "motorsägen kunstwerke"
[18:18:48] <PetefromTn_> that's one huge chainsaw man... should call it the widowmaker LOL
[18:19:58] <Jymmm> If I light the split at the end in the backyard, will it keep the while house warm from the outside in, all month long?
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[18:22:37] <Jymmm> and if lit on "no burn permit required day" and it burns for 30 days, does that count as being "grandfathered in" ? lol
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[18:27:05] <_methods> Jymmm: yeah that's the stove
[18:28:04] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5pg6p88xbjqpj7/2015-11-21%2011.52.26.mp4?dl=0
[18:28:23] <anomynous> ... . . . . . . . . ~(,,^> -I'm taking off! OUTTA MY WAY!
[18:28:26] <anomynous> turbo mouse taking off
[18:28:32] <_methods> i was just getting it going there
[18:28:33] <anomynous> picture was taken on irc
[18:31:40] <zeeshan|2> hi
[18:31:51] <PetefromTn_> thats a neat little camp stove
[18:31:57] <duc> Hello
[18:32:01] <PetefromTn_> needs some handles on it tho
[18:32:03] <zeeshan|2> came across an interesting product on ebay
[18:32:20] <PetefromTn_> so you can move it without having to wait until it is fully cooled
[18:32:24] <_methods> oh that was just my test one
[18:32:31] <_methods> it needs more than that
[18:32:34] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Tap-Handle-Bulls-Eye-Level-Guide-for-Tapping-or-Reaming-/251977135561?hash=item3aab01f5c9:g:op0AAOxydlFS6vjE
[18:32:36] <_methods> it needs a very heavy base
[18:32:40] <zeeshan|2> its a bubble that attaches to the end of a tap handle
[18:32:41] <zeeshan|2> lol
[18:32:53] <_methods> but i was just testing to make sure the dimensions were good
[18:33:13] <Jymmm> _methods: Foldable rebar legs
[18:33:13] <_methods> you're constantly rammin sticks in there so it needs to have a very sturdy base
[18:33:14] <PetefromTn_> have you ever seen the way icelandic people make campfires with a chainsaw? its pretty cool too and will burn for hours apparenlty.
[18:33:24] <zeeshan|2> i think its good in concept, but a spring loaded center would be better
[18:33:28] <zeeshan|2> or a regular tap guide
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[18:33:34] <_methods> well a gasification stove is way better
[18:33:40] <maxcnc> zeeshan|2: good for thread tools
[18:33:46] <_methods> but this rocket stove is pretty cool
[18:34:00] <Jymmm> zeeshan|2: and chcked in a drillpress even better =)
[18:34:04] <Jymmm> chucked*
[18:34:16] <duc> Most days I power tap with cordless drill which has the levels built in
[18:34:21] <duc> But nice idea
[18:34:22] <zeeshan|2> yea but most of the time you're really not tapping on something small
[18:34:24] <zeeshan|2> like a machine
[18:34:27] <zeeshan|2> you wanna use a tap guide block
[18:34:38] <zeeshan|2> i dont have one
[18:34:44] <zeeshan|2> i am thinking of building one
[18:34:50] <zeeshan|2> theyre like 200 bux on ebay
[18:34:55] <zeeshan|2> for just all the imperial sizes
[18:35:33] <Jymmm> _methods: If you made the opening much smaller than the chimney, you can have the same results
[18:35:49] <_methods> i'm going to make a nice one out of stainless i think
[18:36:08] <duc> zeeshan|2: I always forget I have a tapping block for standard sizes. Should be to have to make for metric
[18:36:16] <maxcnc> im off Gn8 done for gcoding the tomorrows parts
[18:36:19] <zeeshan|2> duc
[18:36:23] <zeeshan|2> i found one for metric for relatively cheap
[18:36:24] <zeeshan|2> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Metric-Tap-Guide-CNC-Mill-Lathe-Machine-Tool-Die-/190353391978?hash=item2c51f2416a:m:mM6oPcAuqNwO57nv7YWlfcg
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[18:36:27] <duc> Shouldn't be to hard to make
[18:36:40] <zeeshan|2> but id like to have both in 1 block
[18:36:49] <zeeshan|2> or maybe its better to have 2
[18:37:24] <duc> Not a fan of the AL. D2 or A2 would be better
[18:37:28] <archivist> but what if your hole is at an angle
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[18:38:03] <duc> Make a guide on that day
[18:38:04] <zeeshan|2> duc: yea i agree, the tap will score that in no time
[18:38:12] <zeeshan|2> wanna build 2? :D
[18:38:22] <zeeshan|2> i was thinking of drilling the smaller holes
[18:38:25] <zeeshan|2> and circle milling the larger
[18:38:35] <duc> Lol. In time. Have to finish mill conversion first
[18:38:52] <duc> One sec need to switch computers
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[18:39:45] <Duc> better
[18:39:55] <zeeshan|2> duc do you have a design for one?
[18:40:03] <Duc> what is the max size you plan on hand tapping?
[18:40:09] <zeeshan|2> m14
[18:40:11] <zeeshan|2> or 3/4
[18:40:22] <Duc> nope. My old one is just multiple holes in a rectangle block
[18:40:39] <zeeshan|2> did you size the holes for the major diameter?
[18:40:42] <zeeshan|2> + a couple tho clearance?
[18:40:44] <zeeshan|2> *thou
[18:40:57] <Duc> not sure I bought a old machinist tools
[18:41:21] <Duc> I would make them a few thousands above the diameter of the threads diameter
[18:41:29] <Duc> threads are a loose fit anyways
[18:41:44] <zeeshan|2> i havent looked into what class taps are made to
[18:41:49] <zeeshan|2> for bolts its easier to find the class
[18:42:03] <Duc> think class 2 unless its aerospace
[18:42:18] <Duc> can probably be 5-10 degrees off
[18:44:46] <Duc> Figure drill a couple holes in a block of metal then heat treat
[18:44:58] <zeeshan|2> see my worry is this
[18:45:03] <zeeshan|2> do you want your tap to wear first
[18:45:08] <zeeshan|2> or your tap guide to? :D
[18:45:22] <zeeshan|2> cause when it rubs against the guide and its hardened, it might wear it out more?
[18:45:25] * zeeshan|2 overthinks
[18:45:56] <zeeshan|2> like a drill bushing is rarely made out of tool steel
[18:45:58] <zeeshan|2> itll be bronze
[18:46:09] <zeeshan|2> maybe the same concept needs to applied here?
[18:46:14] <Duc> you want your tap to wear. Much cheaper to replace
[18:46:16] <zeeshan|2> replaceable bronze guides
[18:46:22] <zeeshan|2> :D
[18:46:35] <Duc> Most of the drill guides Ive dealt with in fixtures are harden steel for that reason
[18:47:03] <Duc> a operator can replace a drill bit but no way would I trust them to replace a drill bushing
[18:47:11] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[18:47:26] <Duc> think of the hours you would have into the fixture from start to finish
[18:48:28] <zeeshan|2> okay so here's some info from machinery's handbook
[18:50:01] <zeeshan|2> 1/4-20 , 1A 0.2489-0.2367, 2A 0.2489-0.2408, 3A .2500-.2419
[18:50:07] <zeeshan|2> major diameter ranges
[18:51:04] <Duc> so I would then look at a drill chart and find the next size up drill bit
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[18:51:26] <zeeshan|2> i want it to be a bit tight
[18:51:39] <zeeshan|2> it seems like if i make the holes nominal size + 0.005
[18:51:41] <zeeshan|2> it should be ok
[18:51:54] <zeeshan|2> i made one for a 1/4" hole the other night
[18:51:58] <zeeshan|2> soprry 8-32
[18:52:12] <zeeshan|2> and i did exactly that, went to the next letter size drill
[18:52:30] <zeeshan|2> the damn hole was out by 10 thou :(!
[18:52:38] <JT-Shop> what are you trying to do zeeshan|2
[18:52:56] <zeeshan|2> JT-Shop: universal tap block 4-40 to 3/4 UNC
[18:53:00] <zeeshan|2> then another for UNF
[18:53:13] <zeeshan|2> and then another for M standard, M fine
[18:53:16] <Duc> did it matter if it was out by 10 thou? and how did you measure it
[18:53:26] <zeeshan|2> small hole gauge and micrometer
[18:53:39] <JT-Shop> a block to hold the tap perpendicular while you hand tap?
[18:53:47] <zeeshan|2> yea, for the 8-32 hole i notice the bolt was going in 5-6 degrees
[18:53:49] <zeeshan|2> after i was done tapping
[18:53:52] <zeeshan|2> JT-Shop: yes
[18:54:25] <Duc> did the screw bottom out correctly when screw in all the way
[18:55:04] <JT-Shop> mill a V in the side of the block...
[18:55:38] <zeeshan|2> duc ya
[18:56:12] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, i left you a note in devel...
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[18:56:33] <Duc> wouldnt worry about it. Unelss its a very long bolt, it wont matter. THreads are loose unless its class 3a or 3B i think
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[19:18:35] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/2r6ud2F.png
[19:18:37] <zeeshan|2> imperial tap block
[19:18:45] <zeeshan|2> :D
[19:19:15] <zeeshan|2> looks like i need to machine it with a 1/4 end mill and 1/8 end mill
[19:19:53] <zeeshan|2> jt i like the v block idea
[19:20:03] <zeeshan|2> will try that as well
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[19:25:35] <Duc> Looks good why the machining with a endmill
[19:26:21] <zeeshan|2> less tool change
[19:26:24] <zeeshan|2> :D
[19:27:06] <Duc> ah.
[19:30:45] <enleth> interesting, I just tried mounting another toolholder on the bridgeport and there is some play in it, a few hundredths of a mm but it's perceptible. The gage distance appears to be identical, as is flange thickness. what the hell?
[19:31:22] <enleth> as in, the butt of the QC locknut mechanism stopped agains the spindle before it managed to push the holder into the taper
[19:31:31] <enleth> *against
[19:32:48] <Duc> do you have the adjustment directions for the qc lockout mechanism
[19:33:55] <Duc> If not I can email a picture to you from my manual. its for a qc30
[19:38:32] <enleth> Duc: yes please, I've been looking for that for quite a long time, my email is enleth@enleth.com
[19:40:01] <enleth> on the other hand, the ring/bracket thingy in my locknut is *not* an original part, it was copied from the original broken one and may or may not be working correctly
[19:40:23] <enleth> I have yet to find out
[19:41:07] <Duc> ok give me about 5 minutes to take the picture
[19:41:11] <enleth> sure
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[19:55:17] <Duc> enleth on way
[19:57:20] <enleth> Duc: thanks
[19:57:50] <enleth> I think I came up with the same procedure on my own
[19:58:46] <enleth> But now that I took the nut off and just pushed a toolholder up the taper by hand, I still can rock it slightly back and forth
[19:59:46] <Duc> do you have another tool holder to check with?
[20:00:00] <enleth> and there seems to be a set of two gouges on the opposite sides of the taper, about halfway in, that I did not notice before, the edges of which protrude a little. I guess those may be the pivot points for the rocking holder
[20:00:11] <enleth> I have two, both chinese, same make I think
[20:00:31] <enleth> They came from the same supplier and the finish is identical
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[20:00:51] <enleth> both rock a little when I hold them in by hand
[20:01:10] <enleth> but one of them somehow locks in better with the locknut
[20:01:37] <enleth> or maybe I just can't apply enough torque because the ER16 receptacle is shorter than the B22 drill chuck taper
[20:01:41] <Duc> there is a gouge in the spindle taper?
[20:01:58] <enleth> two, on opposite sides, very slight ones
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[20:02:43] <enleth> almost impossible to see, but I can feel them and the edges certainly do stick out
[20:02:55] <Duc> do you have a round stone to maybe reduce them?
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[20:03:07] <MattyMatt> have you got a round stone?
[20:03:37] <enleth> I put my finger inside with a strip of paper under it and jogged the VFD, I could definitely feel the paper being pushed up two times every revolution
[20:03:42] * MattyMatt obviously watched same YT as Duc
[20:03:45] <enleth> I wouldn't feel anything if those were just holes
[20:04:12] <enleth> I do have some small shitty dremel grinding stones
[20:05:04] <Duc> hmmm dremeling the areas down would help but a cylinderical stone would do less damage.
[20:05:20] <MattyMatt> they're too coarse probably. wrap some fine emery paper around a round file, or even the proper taper
[20:05:41] <MattyMatt> and just gently rub off any high points
[20:06:01] <enleth> I do have some 1200 grit paper
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[20:06:14] <enleth> but that looks a bit too fine for the job
[20:06:25] <Duc> before sanding you may want to see exactly where the problem is. Do you have dykem?
[20:06:47] <MattyMatt> slow is better than reckless
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[20:07:22] <enleth> TBH I guess I need to have the taper touched up with a proper conical stone
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[20:08:06] <Duc> 1200 grit will work but its not a quick job
[20:08:25] <enleth> Duc: unfortunately no, I don't have a proper fitting dye
[20:08:44] <MattyMatt> dykem = blue sharpie
[20:08:53] <enleth> ah.
[20:09:04] <enleth> well I did have an actual sharpie somewhere
[20:09:20] <MattyMatt> paint a good taper and rub it inside
[20:09:41] <MattyMatt> then high spots will be visible
[20:09:44] <Duc> LOL sharpie works well
[20:10:21] <enleth> well the sharpie was a dud and got thrown away
[20:10:37] <enleth> would a no-name permanent marker or a no-name whiteboard marker work better?
[20:10:45] <MattyMatt> permanet
[20:11:18] <enleth> I'd try just locking the holder in with no rotation first
[20:11:19] <Duc> you want physical contact to rub it off to see the spots.
[20:11:44] <enleth> if the high spots are significant, they should scrape the dye off anyway
[20:12:13] <MattyMatt> yeah if you can feel them, they certainly will
[20:12:33] <enleth> ok, off to paint it
[20:13:20] <Duc> at least sharpie wont paint the shop floor when you drop the bottle
[20:14:25] <MattyMatt> I can't find my tube of blue. I bet I find it with my foot, when it's squirted up the wall :p
[20:14:31] <Duc> lol
[20:15:59] <MattyMatt> I had to use a fine sharpie to blue my mill bed, so I just scribbled a few lines then smeared it out with meths and a tissue. effective
[20:16:47] <MattyMatt> doing it properly woulda taken 20 minutes and used up the sharpie
[20:17:26] <Duc> what did you blue up the mill bed for?
[20:17:44] <MattyMatt> to get the bottom of my ebay vice flat
[20:17:57] <Duc> ah
[20:18:01] <Duc> what type of mill do you have
[20:18:04] <MattyMatt> my mill bed is my only surface table too
[20:18:18] <MattyMatt> it's on old deckel engraving machine
[20:18:32] <MattyMatt> the pantograph is long gone
[20:19:14] <Duc> ah
[20:19:47] <enleth> well there is a visible jab after chucking the holder and pulling it in every direction a bit
[20:20:23] <enleth> I mounted it the other way around and the jab is there on the other side now, same spot relative to the spindle
[20:20:45] <MattyMatt> http://www.e-engraving.com/machines/deckel/img/DECKEL_engraving.jpg what mine should look like
[20:20:54] <Duc> some would just grind in that area with the dremel
[20:21:10] <enleth> Duc: heard about that, not sure if I want to do that
[20:21:46] <enleth> on the other hand, putting a holder wrapped with emery paper in there is just an invitation to bellmouthing I think
[20:21:56] <Duc> MattyMatt: Interesting
[20:22:57] <Duc> enleth: or glue sandpaper to dremel bit to reduce roughness
[20:23:26] <enleth> that sounds better
[20:24:40] <MattyMatt> or glue paper to taper
[20:24:52] <MattyMatt> with no overlap
[20:25:09] <MattyMatt> just water will glue it long enough
[20:25:57] <enleth> I think I have a few spare dremel tool shafts, I could glue a wooden cylinder on one of them, sand it true and then glue some emery paper on that
[20:26:23] <MattyMatt> no rubber sanding drums?
[20:26:51] <MattyMatt> every dremel I've seen comes with those, but the drums are really coarse
[20:27:17] <enleth> I do have those but I don't want to have glue residue on them
[20:27:18] <MattyMatt> the arbour could be handy here tho, wrappeed in fine paper
[20:27:32] <enleth> besides, gluing paper to rubber effectively is harder than paper to wood
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[20:28:05] <MattyMatt> how effective does it need to be? you only need it to remove 2 little burrs
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[20:28:30] <MattyMatt> water will hold it on for a few minutes
[20:28:33] <enleth> well maybe I should just use a plain wooden drum and some polishing compound?
[20:31:06] <MattyMatt> a small round chisel is what I'd probably go for if I didn't have a a stone. I'd sacrifice a cheap screwdriver to get a good curve, and a good leading edge, to push the burrs away
[20:31:20] <MattyMatt> crude, but you get a good feel
[20:31:39] <Duc> yep
[20:33:24] <enleth> that sounds good
[20:34:18] <enleth> now I just have think if I'm willing to do that in situ or pull the spindle out
[20:34:35] <enleth> both options have significant downsides
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[20:35:17] <Duc> I would do it in the machine
[20:35:52] <MattyMatt> I would want to see what's happening, but a mirror could be enough
[20:36:10] <enleth> I mean, taking out the spindle is a safe operation on a bridgeport, but it's a hassle
[20:36:41] <MattyMatt> ah, just turn the head sideways
[20:37:05] <MattyMatt> so you can see and use your arm at a good angle
[20:38:18] <enleth> MattyMatt: rigid ram here
[20:38:57] <MattyMatt> k, so how low does the bed go, and is it the long one which is more comfortable to lie on? :)
[20:40:24] <enleth> that sounds like "been there done that"
[20:40:58] <MattyMatt> nope, it's just that I consider a bridgeport a "large machine" that you can get inside
[20:41:49] <MattyMatt> like those shipbuilding lathes with the drivers seat on the saddle
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[20:42:55] <MattyMatt> http://i.imgur.com/zoIQA7n.jpg here's my main machine
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[20:43:25] <duc> Stupid connection
[20:44:24] <MattyMatt> I'm seriously tempted to rebuild that plywood dremel pusher as a surface grinder once my deckel is working
[20:45:14] <MattyMatt> drawer slides won't care about grit
[20:47:06] <MattyMatt> that Y axis works great. 4 drawer slides in all, on 3" square oak beams
[20:49:28] <duc> Dremel pusher?
[20:50:24] <MattyMatt> mill is too grand a word :)
[20:50:46] <MattyMatt> it's too flexible to mill aluminium even
[20:51:31] <MattyMatt> http://i.imgur.com/O75ZoZk.jpg it does OK waving a dremel around in wood tho
[20:52:21] <duc> Ah. Maybe time to step up to a knee mill
[20:52:30] <MattyMatt> and I use the word dremel lightly. anything that used dremel collets is a deremel to me. that one is 140W
[20:53:32] <MattyMatt> duc, http://i.imgur.com/ZOcgku0.jpg I've got the knee, I just need the spindle now
[20:54:54] <MattyMatt> I'm making one out of plywood :p
[20:55:44] <duc> At least that setup is easy to move around
[20:55:59] <MattyMatt> hoarding steel is tricky, living at momma's
[20:56:44] <duc> Yea that would be
[20:57:11] <MattyMatt> dammit. I've been looking for that blue handled rasp today, and when I saw it in that pic I thought I'd found it for a second
[20:59:47] <MattyMatt> lovely ways on this deckel. I don't think they ever moved much when it was an engraving machine
[21:00:16] <MattyMatt> I should sort out proper oiling before I even start using it with a spindle
[21:00:44] <duc> Forced injection?
[21:00:59] <MattyMatt> yep just a one shot
[21:02:05] <MattyMatt> or at least, I should take it apart and check if the oil holes go where I think they do, then I can just oil it with a can
[21:02:28] <MattyMatt> maybe fit nipples so I can to it with less drips. wooden floor is still under it
[21:07:21] <MattyMatt> http://imgur.com/a/piCdr#1 I'm doing a spindle like my lathes. same kind of bearings
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[21:08:03] <MattyMatt> act impressed why dontcha ;)
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[21:38:57] <enleth> well screw the taper, I did polish some high spots off by hand and just pushing the holder in with no locknut installed is enough for it to stick in there quite hard
[21:39:24] <enleth> I mean, I had to pull it out with some relatively significant force
[21:39:27] <enleth> but.
[21:39:46] <enleth> One of them is still rocking in place *and* apparently rocking up and down
[21:40:10] <enleth> I mean, with the locknut and all
[21:41:15] <enleth> so I cranked the table way down, leaned on it and tugged on the offending holder while looking at the are where the locknut's locking ears meet the holder
[21:41:24] <enleth> turns out there is just some play in there
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[21:42:28] <Duc> whats a good IRC client to use
[21:42:44] <Duc> enleth: How is the stoning going?
[21:44:24] <enleth> Duc: https://paste.q3k.org/paste/584VQTZO#WmyqNu174o5MKnBq5zqtq3Ua9gjzvhIFPWd8uV245+p
[21:44:41] <Duc> website didnt work
[21:45:40] <enleth> Duc: http://pastebin.com/Bg10Vdws
[21:45:40] <enleth> there's like less than 0.05mm between the locking ear and the flange
[21:46:17] <enleth> but I can even twist the holder a little, however much the drive dogs allow
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[21:46:43] <enleth> and I can see scratch marks on top of the ejecting ears, so they definitely do stop agains the spindle
[21:46:44] <q3k> Duc: huh. did you copy the entire link? weird.
[21:46:44] <Deejay> gn8
[21:47:19] <Duc> yea
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[21:47:44] <Duc> what is the link for
[21:48:10] <enleth> Duc: I just pasted what I said on IRC in there,
[21:48:30] <enleth> but q3k's pastebin is a bit special
[21:48:36] <Duc> ah
[21:49:03] <Duc> I did post the build for my bridgeport boss5 on the forum finally under milling machines
[21:49:17] <enleth> anyways, I have to grind about 0.05mm off the top of the locknut bracket
[21:49:18] <PetefromTn_> jeez man I just finished another beautiful Steyr Picatinny rail for a customer and got it all ready to send for anodize when I checked his email he apparently wanted a dovetail rail not a picatinny DOH!!! ;)
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[21:50:45] <enleth> but what I don't get is why one holder fits OK and the other is loose, when both have apparently the same gage distance and flange thickness
[21:50:45] <enleth> I guess they actually don't
[21:51:01] <Duc> PetefromTn: now that hurts profits and time. what is it going on
[21:51:22] <Duc> enleth: not really sure
[21:51:45] <enleth> and the custom bracket in my locknut isn't quite optimally dimensioned
[21:52:23] <PetefromTn_> meh it hurts time but not profits really it will just sell to the next customer that wants a picatinny rail.
[21:52:23] <PetefromTn_> I machined a batch of them so I just have to cut another body with that profile instead..
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[21:52:43] <PetefromTn_> just annoys me I missed it
[21:53:09] <Duc> LOL
[21:54:07] <Sync> rekt
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[21:55:40] <PetefromTn_> gotta lay off the sauce man ;)
[21:56:02] <JT-Shop> so now you have one for show and tell
[21:57:09] <PetefromTn_> Oh I have a couple of those already LOL
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[21:58:15] <Duc> lets see one
[21:58:44] <PetefromTn_> Oh I got lots of pics if you want LOL...
[22:00:39] <Duc> got a link
[22:01:06] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/H7dRjUG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uo7H2Ew.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WTzewrL.jpg
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[22:01:19] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/1Gda44T.jpg
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[22:02:12] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/SyPdsy3.jpg
[22:02:59] <Duc> dam
[22:03:25] <Duc> little rich for my blood.
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[22:04:06] <PetefromTn_> heh me too
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[22:05:26] <Duc> I stick to my cheap 700 rifles
[22:06:17] <PetefromTn_> some of those are not so cheap either
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[22:07:03] <Duc> true. so far my is stock and not sure if I will upgrade the trigger yet
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[23:07:55] <Magnifikus> so my spartan3 stepgen is running fine on spi :)
[23:08:03] <Magnifikus> nextup machinekit/linuxcnc on a pi
[23:08:19] <Magnifikus> but pi1 seems so uggly slow, guess a pi2 is the better choice
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[23:36:51] <andypugh> Oh, he left
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[23:37:11] <andypugh> I was going to say that the Pi2 doesn’t seem to have any better latency than the Pi1
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[23:38:18] <SpeedEvil> it could have been so much better.
[23:38:28] <SpeedEvil> Allegedly they actually had input on the silicon.
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[23:38:59] <SpeedEvil> And still chose to - for example - not put a ethernet PHY on the chip, so as to lose half the power consumption and much of the BOM
[23:39:07] <andypugh> I just got a Pi0. But I doubt it is even worth trying a realtime kernel on it.
[23:39:50] <SpeedEvil> The zero would be awesome for some apps I had in mind - if it had CSI/DSI
[23:39:52] <SpeedEvil> but...
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[23:43:20] <andypugh> SpeedEvil: The Compute Module has CSI/DSI
[23:43:33] <SpeedEvil> he
[23:43:33] <andypugh> And a cool form-factor
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[23:43:56] <SpeedEvil> yes, but needs a >>$5 connector board and is >>>$5
[23:44:20] <andypugh> All it needs is a SODIMM slot...
[23:44:45] <SpeedEvil> yes
[23:45:03] <SpeedEvil> I was meaning more for stuff where literally a screen, a wifi module would be it.
[23:46:16] <andypugh> I want to find a use for the compute module, there is something “neat” about it.
[23:46:27] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[23:46:39] <SpeedEvil> though pi2 compute would be ratehr more interesting
[23:51:44] <SpeedEvil> Chip is interesting too
[23:52:09] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: I think he's doing the stepgen in the FPGA
[23:53:18] <CaptHindsight> I had a conversation with him a few days ago. I forget his exact setup but it should be in the logs
[23:54:06] <zeeshan> hi
[23:55:35] <CaptHindsight> so he doesn't need real low latency just like hm2_eth on Mesa
[23:55:56] <zeeshan> speaking of latency
[23:55:59] <zeeshan> i was working on the plasma cutter
[23:56:12] <zeeshan> based on the jitter, max pulse rate was 30000hz
[23:56:20] <zeeshan> with the mesa, how much would be the max?
[23:56:37] <zeeshan> 7i76()
[23:58:06] <andypugh> Faster than a motor can follow
[23:58:12] <zeeshan> you sure?
[23:58:16] <zeeshan> we need 600 ipm
[23:58:25] <zeeshan> we're currently at 150..
[23:58:36] <CaptHindsight> isn't it at least a few hundred Khz
[23:58:58] <zeeshan> we're running motor drivers
[23:59:09] <zeeshan> which for some odd reason do not turn the motors at less than 1/8 step
[23:59:14] <zeeshan> more than 1/8 step
[23:59:17] <zeeshan> they work
[23:59:21] <zeeshan> garbage china nonsense
[23:59:54] <andypugh> 5i25 max step rates are a few MHz.