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[01:46:03] <monttyle> What's this kind of arrangement called?
http://burningsmell.org/images/crossrail.gif
[01:46:22] <XXCoder> "weird"
[01:46:25] <XXCoder> kidding dunno
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[01:54:56] <duc> Question. Turns out I order the wrong servo drives. Anyone get mechatrolink to work with linuxcnc
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[02:00:41] <magnifikus> its called i like to jam
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[02:07:20] <Sync> duc: see if you can command them with quadrature
[02:07:24] <Sync> if not, good luck
[02:07:54] <monttyle> I could double it up with motors on both sides, but that'd kind of defeat the point..
[02:08:29] <duc> It's a rs485 protocol but no analog in for motion
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[02:38:01] <duc> Might have to eat the cost of ordering the correct set
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[06:13:29] <dgmurdockiii> hey guys is it a music for cnc software to have the num pad
[06:13:40] <XXCoder> music?
[06:13:56] <dgmurdockiii> must i ment not music
[06:14:26] <XXCoder> number pad nummo but it is nice to have arrow buttons for manual control
[06:14:44] <XXCoder> and if I recall right, page up and down for z
[06:15:45] <dgmurdockiii> ok
[06:17:07] <dgmurdockiii> so a tenkeyless keyboard would work
[06:17:59] <Jymmm> But an external numpad works great as a pseudo pendant
[06:18:14] <Jymmm> especially on a 20ft cord =)
[06:18:16] <XXCoder> good tip
[06:18:24] <XXCoder> can always buy extension usb
[06:38:41] <Jymmm> In regards to impregnating epoxy into wood... I understand the function of a vacuum chamber in this respect, but what about a pressure pot?
[06:40:03] <Jymmm> Seems to me to be the inverse, sorta kinda. Is it "pushing" material into the wood instead of the wood "sucking" it in?
[06:45:20] <MrSunshine> Jymmm: you suck out the air to make room for the epoxy, with a preasurepot you would just compress the air and when preasure releases the air would push it out again ? =)
[06:46:01] <MrSunshine> and when you release the vacuum it essentialy becomes a preasurepot, as the ambient air preasure will want to get in, but epoxy is in the way pushing it into the wood? =)
[06:46:10] <Jymmm> no clue, thats what I'm asking.
[06:46:25] <MrSunshine> my thoughts about it atleast
[06:46:32] <MrSunshine> you got to remove something to add something
[06:46:42] <MrSunshine> and it seems to be alot of air in wood =)
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[07:53:23] <Deejay> moin
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[08:30:32] <anomynous> Deejay: hello
[08:39:16] <Deejay> hi anomynous
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[09:00:08] <chuckbob> Looking for some input for a hobbyist. Within $1000, what are some good options for a CAM program that can import stl and rhino files
[09:00:16] <chuckbob> and is somewhat intuitive
[09:00:54] <XXCoder> hey
[09:01:02] <XXCoder> good question
[09:01:09] <MrSunshine> wihtin $0 you got a great cad/cam =)
[09:01:11] <MrSunshine> fusion 360
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[09:01:20] <MrSunshine> free for hobbyists/small companies .. =)
[09:01:56] <chuckbob> will fusion import from rhino3d?
[09:02:02] <MrSunshine> ah .. that i dont know :P
[09:02:02] <MrSunshine> hehe
[09:02:14] <chuckbob> didn't realize you could get the cam portion of it for free
[09:02:40] <MrSunshine> it imports stp files so export it as that ? =)
[09:03:04] <MrSunshine> chuckbob: atleast the 3 axis .. dont know about 5 axis (i think that is in the works)
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[09:03:52] <MrSunshine> What is a 3dm file and how do I open a 3dm file?
[09:03:52] <MrSunshine> The 3DM file extension is an open source 3D model format that allows CAD, CAM, CAE, and computer graphics software to accurately save and exchange 3D geometry using both NURBS and polygon mesh representations. 3DM is used as the native file format for Rhinoceros.
[09:03:52] <MrSunshine> Looking for how to open 3dm files? Checkout
http://www.openthefile.net/extension/3dm
[09:03:54] <MrSunshine> ops
[09:04:29] <MrSunshine> so might work =)
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[09:05:14] <anomynous> i think geomagic is about $1000 but then you need a cam too ;)
[09:05:53] <chuckbob> I have rhino3d, just really need cam
[09:05:54] <MrSunshine> ive been using fusion more and more and i think its awesome
[09:05:55] <anomynous> sprutcam has an addon so you could use it from within geomagic... iirc
[09:06:01] <MrSunshine> using vectric aspire for artistic work tho =)
[09:06:07] <XXCoder> I do like freecad, but no idea if it can export to any cam use
[09:06:11] <JesusAlos> hi
[09:06:19] <XXCoder> it does also have cam features but I got no idea how to use that,.
[09:07:35] <anomynous> chuckbob: gcode is easy too, if you need only 2.5d. Just slower than cam. And you need to know it anyway.
[09:07:43] <chuckbob> downloading fusion 360
[09:08:03] <chuckbob> I do know some gcode, just like the visual piece
[09:08:12] <anomynous> okay
[09:08:46] <anomynous> try fusion, then. It has editable post processors too. Sprutcam comes with a post editor, i thikn
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[09:09:15] <chuckbob> honestly, most of what I do could be done in cut2d
[09:09:29] <XXCoder> is cut2d free or?
[09:09:39] <chuckbob> no
[09:11:03] <XXCoder> ok
[09:12:08] <anomynous> is there a cheap gcode editing thing with stack trace? ;D a notepad++ plugin or something like that
[09:12:26] <XXCoder> at work I use predator but dunno pricing
[09:12:36] <archivist> what has a stack trace got to do with gcode
[09:12:54] <anomynous> well, if you use like variables and loops and macros
[09:12:57] <anomynous> ;D
[09:12:58] <XXCoder> light version is free apparently
[09:13:09] <archivist> I do use loops
[09:14:19] <XXCoder> predator is not linux friendly
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[09:15:45] <anomynous> snippets would be nice too, sometimes. The control i use is just infernal to do anything with. ;D
[09:17:18] <XXCoder> http://www.hsmworks.com/ maybe
[09:18:56] <anomynous> have gibbscam but use cam for doing a bolt circle, or something like that?
[09:25:33] <archivist> bolt circles are easy on a rotary :)
[09:27:20] <XXCoder> gibbscam shows picture of antique pc lol
[09:29:05] <chuckbob> lol
[09:33:11] <XXCoder> antipritate stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oSL_x-TKnvM kik
[09:33:32] <XXCoder> if youre olike me you probably cant watch it for more than couple seconds.
[09:36:08] <chuckbob> so, fusion360 you can't import drawings from anywhere?
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[09:53:05] <XXCoder> trying heekscnc now
[09:53:10] <XXCoder> chuckbob: might work and its free
[09:53:30] <chuckbob> I will give it a look
[09:53:33] <chuckbob> looking at cambam right now
[09:53:51] <XXCoder> cambam kept crashing in windows. dunno if has any linux version
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[09:59:14] <XXCoder> glitchy now
[09:59:23] <XXCoder> heekscad dont seem to work well
[09:59:41] <XXCoder> honestly freecad is best of them all
[09:59:47] <XXCoder> its just that cam isnt well done there
[10:02:11] <chuckbob> that's too bad.. all I am really looking for is cam
[10:02:26] <XXCoder> I'm still looking for it too
[10:02:38] <XXCoder> using linux just makes it much harder.
[10:02:57] <chuckbob> I am using a windows machine, so there are choices
[10:03:30] <anomynous> archivist: i dont even have = key on the control, nor all the letters. If I make a mistake in a macro, I have to go back to programming room to edit and re-transfer. Stack trace is useful if machine control is of that level that it can only execute gcode and punch in words one by one. Not even copy-paste.
[10:04:41] <archivist> anomynous, in here I assume linuxcnc, what stack trace
[10:08:27] <anomynous> one hour ago
[10:08:42] <anomynous> about
[10:09:14] <archivist> yes but there is no stack trace from gcode
[10:09:15] <anomynous> yeah... thats why i said why i'd want it. ;)
[10:09:42] <anomynous> well, there is. Level one is main program, and macro calls add ;D
[10:10:44] <archivist> done confuse the concept of subroutines and stacks with the debugging facility of a stack trace
[10:10:47] <archivist> dont
[10:10:54] <anomynous> ok ;D
[10:11:09] <anomynous> macro calls do have their own locals
[10:11:32] <anomynous> subroutines do not
[10:16:33] <archivist> are you reading from some other system rather than linuxcnc
[10:19:15] <XXCoder> uhoh tried pocket with zero diameter tool
[10:19:21] <XXCoder> dont think it will work lol
[10:21:48] <anomynous> archivist: the only one i can somehow use ;D dont take it too seriously
[10:23:40] <XXCoder> hmm chuckbob
http://ecam.altervista.org/
[10:26:30] <XXCoder> gsample is 6 years old lol guess dead
[10:28:46] <anomynous> echoes of altavista
[10:42:33] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[12:03:24] <jthornton> morning
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[14:22:54] <_methods> hahah
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[14:27:37] <Sync> zeeshan: installing the galant EA dual piston calipers in the colt
[14:27:50] <Sync> hopefully that improves the braking :D
[14:30:59] <archivist> or faster fading
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[15:51:26] <zeeshan> :]
[15:51:48] <zeeshan> Sync: im translating japanese rx7 manual to english :[
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[15:56:51] <Loetmichel> bah. fritzbox router... every config change triggers a reconnect... lets see if the sky+ wifi reciver works NOW...
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[17:09:31] <Tom_itx> aarg i keep getting a zero thickness error when trying to extrude a shape in SW
[17:09:46] <Tom_itx> it previews fine
[17:10:33] <zeeshan> incomplete coincidence between 2 lines
[17:10:36] <zeeshan> very small amount
[17:10:46] <Tom_itx> it shows everything connected
[17:10:46] <zeeshan> theyre prolly 0.0001 away
[17:10:58] <Tom_itx> 'conect the dots'
[17:11:47] <Jymmm> http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11/13/montana-highway-patrol-multiple-car-wrecks-vstan-orig.cnn
[17:15:54] <PetefromTn_> HOLY CRAP
[17:17:21] <zeeshan> man the world we as we know it is sick..
[17:17:32] <zeeshan> i wanna move into complete isolation :/
[17:18:18] <CaptHindsight> but but but I had to get home to watch Dancing with the Stars
[17:18:38] <zeeshan> lol
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[17:18:51] <zeeshan> like this isis scum
[17:19:04] <zeeshan> and then robbers in brazil who were robbing a place, and a stray billet killed an 18 year old girl
[17:19:29] <CaptHindsight> I had a 70 yo man throw a tantrum behind me last week since I didn't want to pull up a block traffic so he could cut through a parking lot to skip a light
[17:19:39] <CaptHindsight> a/to
[17:20:11] <CaptHindsight> he later passed me and tried to get me to run into him by braking in front of me
[17:20:38] <CaptHindsight> people are impatient and rarely ever grow up
[17:21:43] <zeeshan> i can deal with that
[17:21:52] <zeeshan> but i can't deal with people randomly shooting others
[17:22:11] <zeeshan> you don't need to see much videos on liveleak to feel sick to your stomach
[17:22:15] <zeeshan> to see the kind of crap that goes on
[17:22:17] <zeeshan> i mean you'
[17:22:20] <zeeshan> i mean imagine this, you
[17:22:22] <zeeshan> you
[17:22:47] <zeeshan> wow spacebar. imagine you're walking down the street just to pick up some end mill cutters or a book or something. or shit even doing groceries
[17:22:53] <zeeshan> and you randomly die by a bullet
[17:23:02] <zeeshan> and you're only 18.
[17:23:05] <CaptHindsight> but but but I need my shootin irons to protect myself, don't take those away
[17:23:09] <zeeshan> or 25. or newly married at 31.
[17:23:46] <CaptHindsight> current culture teaches people to only respect money, those with money or fame
[17:24:02] <CaptHindsight> the average person is meaningless
[17:24:09] <CaptHindsight> since they are treated that way
[17:25:22] <CaptHindsight> sure it's messed up but how do you fix it and who is willing to be part of changing things
[17:26:40] <CaptHindsight> bbl have to go on facebook, twitter and catch on my TMZ watching
[17:26:46] <zeeshan> lol
[17:27:04] <zeeshan> it's unfixable
[17:27:17] <zeeshan> best to live in isolation and be self sufficient :)
[17:27:36] <zeeshan> like les stroud
[17:27:50] <CaptHindsight> oh so you're "anti-social"? lol
[17:28:27] <zeeshan> no more antisocial than facebook is :P
[17:29:23] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight You are damned right I need my guns to protect myself and my family beleive it
[17:29:39] <zeeshan> thats the thing pete
[17:29:42] <zeeshan> youre not going to protect anything
[17:29:48] <zeeshan> when you're hit by a completely random bullet
[17:29:50] <zeeshan> by some lunatic.
[17:29:57] <zeeshan> you won't have time to react!!
[17:29:59] <PetefromTn_> yeah thanks I will take my chances
[17:30:22] <t12> yeah theyre not a defensive tool
[17:30:24] <PetefromTn_> people EVERY DAY protect themselves and thier families with guns
[17:30:31] <zeeshan> i'm not saying guns can protect you
[17:30:32] <t12> however when faced with someone you want to leave
[17:30:36] <zeeshan> im saying guns are the wrong tool for defence
[17:30:37] <zeeshan> in that scenario
[17:30:39] <t12> they leave inmediately if unarmed
[17:30:40] <zeeshan> no gun is going to stop that.
[17:30:54] <zeeshan> unless you had a bullet recognition system on you on all times
[17:31:00] <zeeshan> which detected a bullet and deflected it
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[17:31:24] <zeeshan> [12:30:31] <zeeshan> i'm not saying guns can protect you < can't i mean
[17:31:31] <PetefromTn_> oh so all these politicians and executives don't need guns then to protect themselves...
[17:32:02] <t12> was re fienstein concealed carrh
[17:32:06] <t12> carry
[17:32:20] <zeeshan> john f kennedy is a prime example.
[17:32:21] <PetefromTn_> what utter BS
[17:32:26] <zeeshan> he had all the guns in the world protecting him
[17:32:29] <zeeshan> guess what, he died from a stray bullet.
[17:32:36] <PetefromTn_> STRAY?
[17:32:40] <t12> lol
[17:32:53] <zeeshan> by stray, i mean a bullet that no one saw coming.
[17:33:09] <PetefromTn_> oh so everyone SEES bullets coming then?
[17:33:27] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: don't argue
[17:33:32] <zeeshan> its a pointless arguement
[17:33:35] <PetefromTn_> Tell you what man.. you live without guns or means of protecting yourself
[17:33:41] <PetefromTn_> I will keep mine here
[17:33:41] <zeeshan> wtf man
[17:33:49] <zeeshan> ill have all my guns , never will give em up
[17:33:51] <PetefromTn_> you are the one with the pointless argument
[17:34:11] <zeeshan> but don't be oblivious to think that you can protect yourself with your "guns" when someone shoots you from behind
[17:34:15] <zeeshan> and you didn't even see it coming.
[17:34:16] amnesic is now known as amnesic_away
[17:34:29] <zeeshan> if they missed, you have a good chance of surviving
[17:34:30] <PetefromTn_> just this past week there was a teenager in Chattanooga at home in a nice neighborhood
[17:34:46] <PetefromTn_> a couple thugs pulled into the driveway randomly
[17:34:57] <CaptHindsight> I wish shootin irons would protect people from propaganda
[17:34:57] <t12> thats not really the case they help with
[17:34:57] <PetefromTn_> and ran around back and broke into the house
[17:35:08] <PetefromTn_> kid was ALONE at home
[17:35:15] <zeeshan> tehres already a warning sign for that situation
[17:35:16] <zeeshan> windows breaking
[17:35:17] <PetefromTn_> he ran upstairs and got his mothers pistol
[17:35:21] <zeeshan> or door breaking
[17:35:31] <PetefromTn_> and shot at the both of them
[17:35:35] <zeeshan> guns are great in that situation
[17:35:36] <PetefromTn_> they ran
[17:35:49] <PetefromTn_> one later died at the hospital the other is in jail now
[17:35:55] <zeeshan> good
[17:36:08] <zeeshan> the people in france were in a concert.
[17:36:16] <PetefromTn_> so yeah you can have my guns when you pry them from my fucking cold dead hands...
[17:36:21] <zeeshan> tell me how your gun could save you there?
[17:37:05] <PetefromTn_> I will say that IF Paris was not completely disarming their populace SOMEONE might have been able to fire back at the cowards
[17:37:19] <PetefromTn_> instead they were completely defenseless
[17:37:25] <zeeshan> instead of 138+ dead
[17:37:30] <zeeshan> it would have been 38 dead
[17:37:30] <PetefromTn_> and they all died like lambs to the slaughter
[17:37:34] <zeeshan> or maybe even 12.
[17:37:37] <CaptHindsight> what if we arm all school children while in class, you just had em out when they come in and collect them on the way out
[17:37:43] <zeeshan> but there woulda been dead
[17:38:01] <PetefromTn_> Its funny
[17:38:02] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: kids are unstable
[17:38:07] <zeeshan> you'd see them shooting each other even more!
[17:38:17] <zeeshan> especially during teen years
[17:38:30] <CaptHindsight> so if kids never grow up and hit 30, 40, 70 etc
[17:38:34] <zeeshan> guns are needed
[17:38:39] <PetefromTn_> my whole family is being trained to use the guns we have
[17:38:43] <PetefromTn_> INCLUDING my kids
[17:38:50] <zeeshan> but i dont think they're the complete solution to get rid of this isis filth
[17:39:04] <PetefromTn_> we will never get rid of this ISIS filth
[17:39:15] <zeeshan> as long as that filth is around
[17:39:17] <PetefromTn_> because our President cannot even say their freaking name
[17:39:26] <zeeshan> you and me and our families are at risk of dieing
[17:39:27] <zeeshan> randomly
[17:39:28] <PetefromTn_> and there are far too many countries enabling them
[17:39:32] <zeeshan> and there's nothing we can do about it :(
[17:39:55] <PetefromTn_> they just dropped off like 10k syrian refugees in southern US apparently
[17:40:21] <PetefromTn_> so it won't be long before we see attacks like this in Paris increasing here
[17:40:24] amnesic_away is now known as amnesic
[17:40:57] <t12> its ok the us has that covered with drunk drivers and parades
[17:41:00] <TMA> in Europe, the Chattanooga teenager would be in jail for murder and attempted murder, his mother would be in jail for not securing her gun so that the teenager could not get his hands on them
[17:41:11] <t12> by covered i mean the death rate
[17:41:25] <PetefromTn_> TMA probably and how ridiculous is that?
[17:41:51] <PetefromTn_> ya know what really baffles me?
[17:42:00] <PetefromTn_> Paris has had SEVERAL recent attacks
[17:42:01] <TMA> PetefromTn_: I thing your president wants such a gun control too, right?
[17:42:15] <PetefromTn_> and they KNOW that there are going to be more
[17:42:32] <PetefromTn_> How come they did nothing to protect the soft targets like a MAJOR Soccer stadium?
[17:42:41] <PetefromTn_> TMA he would LOVE to
[17:43:02] <t12> its pretty impossible to defend against individuals willing to die/suicide bomber
[17:43:27] <PetefromTn_> I must say that if these idiots ever actually try to ban weapons there WILL be a major armed revolt in our country...
[17:43:37] <PetefromTn_> t12 I agree that is the case
[17:44:05] <PetefromTn_> but how did they manage to get into a stadium or concert hall with bomb belts and kalashnikov rifles?
[17:44:34] <PetefromTn_> Its not like those are heavily concealable weapons?
[17:44:40] <TMA> PetefromTn_: ban? there is no need to ban weapons. just make the bureaucracy onerous enough and the result would be the same as ban
[17:44:48] <t12> getting through security in any large public crowd is easy
[17:44:48] <zeeshan> im worried aboutt he 100k syrian refugges up here
[17:44:54] <zeeshan> that they're trying to bring -- liberatards
[17:44:57] <PetefromTn_> t12 that is the problem
[17:45:00] <t12> doing it in an airport is kinda harder
[17:45:29] amnesic is now known as amnesic_away
[17:45:39] <t12> however having every mass gathering have that level if security doesnt work
[17:45:47] <PetefromTn_> Its only hard because people have not woken up to the fact that to make things safer people will just have to deal with some slow downs at gates and searches etc.
[17:45:55] <PetefromTn_> sure it does
[17:46:05] <t12> in fact it makes the economic attrition part of terrorism more attractive
[17:46:20] <gonzo_nb> because in france, having searches and metal detectors going into venues would be considered too mich of an intrusion to liberty
[17:46:25] <t12> you blow up a few cheap guys
[17:46:32] <t12> country spends billions on defense
[17:46:35] <PetefromTn_> I'll take some economic hardships over hundreds of dead innocents every time
[17:46:37] <t12> everyone scared all the tine
[17:46:41] <CaptHindsight> whats the core problem? doesn't his go back several decades and also several hundred years?
[17:46:49] <CaptHindsight> his/this
[17:46:52] <t12> thats not a sustainablr position
[17:47:00] <PetefromTn_> sure it is
[17:47:15] <zeeshan> gonzo_nb: no metal detector woulda savedf em
[17:47:20] <zeeshan> those guys walked in shooting everyone.
[17:47:32] <PetefromTn_> you just said it...they WALKED IN
[17:47:45] <gonzo_nb> did they. not kept up with the news
[17:47:54] <PetefromTn_> apparenlty one of the security guards actually found one of them and he blew himslef up
[17:48:21] <PetefromTn_> NO amount of security will stop every threat
[17:48:29] <PetefromTn_> but the reality is our security is laughable
[17:48:49] <TMA> unfortunately yes, it is easier to kill than to prevent killing
[17:48:55] <gonzo_nb> can't see what sort of civilian securuty could stand up against someone walking in spraying 7.62x39
[17:48:58] <Roguish> guys, if someone is committed and intelligent, they can do pretty much anything, anywhere, anytime.........
[17:49:09] <PetefromTn_> and we need to wake up to the fact that people are out there that want to KILL innocents. I for one would welcome some more security especially in major sporting events etc...
[17:49:42] <PetefromTn_> Roguish I agree but does that mean we should not try to stop em?
[17:51:01] <PetefromTn_> we recently had a couple extremists try to kill some folks who made cartoons of the prophet mohammed in Texas. They KNEW there would probably be a threat and the security killed them...
[17:51:12] <Roguish> of course we should try to stop the 'wackos', but it's really hard most of the time. the exception might be the extreme of North Korea. even Russia has 'terrorist acts'.....and China, too.
[17:51:23] <zeeshan> i dunno about you guys
[17:51:32] <zeeshan> but if you can hurt another human being to the point of death
[17:51:33] <PetefromTn_> fact is we KNOW there is a threat now...its not IF its coming it's when...
[17:51:44] <zeeshan> you are no longer a human being
[17:51:50] <zeeshan> you've lost all sense of morality
[17:51:56] <TMA> Roguish: fortunately, the intelligent ones are rarely the murderous ones
[17:51:58] <gonzo_nb> till recently, in the uk, the main threat was the IRA. but on the whole, those in there with any brains, would not risk their own skins. So we were often saved by the stupidity of the people actually deploying the bombs
[17:52:08] <t12> better to adress the structural problems than go auto immune disorder on security
[17:52:13] <CaptHindsight> you're discussing how to solve a problem created long ago, mainly by religion
[17:52:14] <zeeshan> i think us homeland has done a great job
[17:52:27] <zeeshan> its solely cause of them that the attacks in usa has decreased
[17:52:46] <gonzo_nb> having inteligent peopole being convinced to blow themselves up , changes everything
[17:52:50] <t12> isis is more or less power vacuum side effect post iraq/afganistan
[17:53:05] <PetefromTn_> I disagree with that
[17:53:21] <CaptHindsight> t12: and they knew that back in 01'
[17:53:26] <t12> im actually with putin on this, its better to have a total asshole in charge there abd to politically control them
[17:53:42] <t12> then to have a power vacuum or civil war
[17:53:53] <TMA> zeeshan: there is an easy (and "moral") way out -- if you do not consider your targets human, there is no moral dilemma :(
[17:53:57] <PetefromTn_> the whole idea of a Caliphate and the rise of this is something that has been in their religion for long before the iran/iraq conflict
[17:54:12] <zeeshan> lol
[17:54:23] <t12> the religious justifications are always excuses for other stuff
[17:54:43] <zeeshan> its sickening people use religion as a justification
[17:54:46] <zeeshan> for mass killings..
[17:55:02] <zeeshan> some people just wanna fucking cnc their lathe okay?
[17:55:10] <zeeshan> not die cause they're not super religious
[17:55:15] <zeeshan> :(
[17:55:25] <gonzo_nb> isn't cnca religieon?/
[17:55:33] <t12> like say boko haran
[17:55:35] <CaptHindsight> but but but you should kill the unbeliever
[17:55:36] <t12> haram
[17:55:47] <CaptHindsight> haven't you read the Koran?
[17:55:52] <PetefromTn_> that is pretty much exactly what it says
[17:55:55] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: i have
[17:55:55] <t12> really its just people playing armed takeover
[17:56:00] <zeeshan> gotta read it in contect
[17:56:00] <PetefromTn_> in more than several places
[17:56:02] <zeeshan> not just one line
[17:56:05] <zeeshan> it's during war
[17:56:17] <CaptHindsight> yeah out of context
[17:56:33] <zeeshan> seriously, if you read one line, it sounds like it's saying kill all non believers
[17:56:35] <Roguish> t12: the entire middle east is f'd up by the europeans in the 1800's and early 1900's. all the colonialism is coming home to roost. France, UK, and the rest, including us,(US) messed up a whole lot by creating artificial countries and supporting certain groups. there is plenty of blame to go around. the Atlantic is our best insulation.
[17:56:42] <CaptHindsight> just like out of text bible passages used to start wars
[17:57:07] <zeeshan> but if you read the entire chapter, its talking about if you're being attacked for your religion
[17:57:08] <CaptHindsight> too bad we still have invisible angry men in the sky running things
[17:57:22] <zeeshan> the people you can only trust are your own religious mates, and you must kill all non believers
[17:57:26] <zeeshan> because they'll come try to kill you
[17:57:51] <zeeshan> do these morons are like "westernization is like being attacked for your religion"
[17:57:56] <zeeshan> "so lets kill all non believers"
[17:57:57] <zeeshan> hahahahaha
[17:58:02] <zeeshan> what a joke
[17:58:08] <t12> ya
[17:58:09] <Roguish> the religious aspect is interesting. remember that Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all 'sons of Abraham'
[17:58:23] <zeeshan> roguish yes all abrahamic religions
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[17:59:08] <Roguish> yet they slaughter each other in the name of their own sect. what a concept.
[18:00:16] <PetefromTn_> lets face it people slaughter each other for plenty of reasons that have nothing to do with religion.
[18:00:24] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: exactly!!!
[18:00:31] <zeeshan> like the bank robbers
[18:00:31] <CaptHindsight> it works well to control the little people
[18:00:37] <zeeshan> that killed that poor 18-19 year old girl! :(
[18:00:41] <zeeshan> she was hot as hell too.
[18:00:56] <Roguish> in the end, it's a power issue. and wealth and privilege come with the power. those without, want, those with don't want to give up or share.
[18:00:56] <zeeshan> she's sitting there, waiting to get to the bank teller
[18:01:13] <zeeshan> and then gets shot in the neck, tries to hold herself from bleeding, dies in her own pool of blood
[18:01:23] <zeeshan> all because of some scumbag bank robber shooting everything
[18:01:32] <PetefromTn_> yup
[18:01:34] <zeeshan> no religion was involved in there.
[18:01:48] <zeeshan> just humans that don't value life
[18:01:53] <zeeshan> my brother is a prison guard
[18:02:01] <PetefromTn_> but unless you are able to remove guns from EVERY SINGLE HUMAN I will choose to remain armed
[18:02:05] <zeeshan> and the stories he tells me of the shit he sees on a regular basis
[18:02:16] <zeeshan> makes you question, why we even have a jail system
[18:02:23] <CaptHindsight> I grew up in large cities and travel to even bigger ones now..
[18:02:35] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: no way man
[18:02:37] <zeeshan> if guns were gone
[18:02:42] <zeeshan> people will be beheading people!
[18:02:46] <zeeshan> they'll find another means.
[18:02:49] <CaptHindsight> there is something that goes in in rural areas to fuel fear
[18:02:49] <PetefromTn_> you mean like they are now?
[18:02:52] <zeeshan> sick people will always find a way
[18:02:55] <CaptHindsight> in/on
[18:03:04] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight BULLSHIT
[18:03:08] <t12> well
[18:03:09] <CaptHindsight> heh
[18:03:21] <t12> in rural places there really ia less chance of someone else coming to help
[18:03:22] <PetefromTn_> I have lived in large cities and I have lived in small towns
[18:03:28] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: you're like 6' 5" and 250lbs and in so much fear
[18:03:32] <PetefromTn_> there are shitheads in both aplenty
[18:03:39] <CaptHindsight> it's sad to me
[18:03:40] <t12> in sf if theres gunfire cops appear in about 2 min
[18:03:44] <PetefromTn_> I am in no more fear than anyone else
[18:04:12] <t12> its likely faster to out rounds in the air than call 911
[18:04:13] <CaptHindsight> maybe if traveled more
[18:04:18] <PetefromTn_> I am just smart enough to understand that IF some asshole tries to break into my house by the time the authorities arrive it will be far too late
[18:04:35] <PetefromTn_> I have traveled around the world man
[18:04:40] <PetefromTn_> where have you traveled?
[18:04:52] <PetefromTn_> I have been to third world countries
[18:04:59] <PetefromTn_> some of the worst shit holes in the world
[18:05:05] <zeeshan> ive been to all of syria
[18:05:07] <zeeshan> and jordan
[18:05:10] <zeeshan> and lebanon etc
[18:05:15] <zeeshan> before they were shit holes
[18:05:25] <zeeshan> petra is an amazing place to go!
[18:05:29] <zeeshan> syria had some awesome food
[18:05:30] <TMA> was
[18:05:40] <zeeshan> was, you are correct
[18:05:43] <zeeshan> how sad that is.
[18:05:43] <zeeshan> :(
[18:06:48] <archivist> I lived in Libya for a few years in the 1960's
[18:07:03] <zeeshan> archivist: how old are you!!!
[18:07:05] <zeeshan> 1960s! :D
[18:07:24] <archivist> old enough, dont be cheeky to your elders!
[18:07:56] <PetefromTn_> I think because my name here is fromTn people think I am some kind of hillbilly hick that never leaves his house LOL
[18:08:09] <archivist> we do
[18:08:26] <PetefromTn_> Funny thing is I am actually NOT from Tn
[18:08:36] <PetefromTn_> I just live here....temporarily ;)
[18:09:31] <Roguish> i'm going out to the shop and fire up my mill to make something..................................................................................................
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[18:11:11] <archivist> I am scanning images older than me
[18:11:26] <PetefromTn_> how old are you?
[18:12:04] <archivist> circa 52
[18:14:16] <zeeshan> hehe
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[18:17:21] <zeeshan|2> lag
[18:19:14] <archivist> oops forgot to bid on a toy
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361425318925
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[18:19:40] <zeeshan|2> jeez that went cheap
[18:20:11] <archivist> yup...grrrr
[18:20:15] <zeeshan|2> archivist: you have good taste on tools
[18:20:16] <zeeshan|2> :)
[18:20:27] <zeeshan|2> and find some smoking deals
[18:20:57] <archivist> persistence in browsing
[18:21:09] <archivist> and nothing better to do
[18:21:11] <zeeshan|2> you always send me the 150 quid ads
[18:21:18] <zeeshan|2> and keep the 25 quid ones for you
[18:21:23] <zeeshan|2> :)
[18:21:50] <archivist> I cannot afford the £150
[18:21:54] <zeeshan|2> nor car!
[18:21:56] <zeeshan|2> *can i
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[18:24:19] <maxcnc> hi all
[18:24:21] <hsm> hi
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[18:36:46] <zeeshan|2> what is a good place to post a pdf
[18:36:51] <zeeshan|2> and itll stay stored there for a very long time
[18:36:56] <zeeshan|2> like a 5years+
[18:37:19] <archivist> your own site
[18:37:43] <zeeshan|2> hehe
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[18:43:10] <archivist> time you did have a cnc section instead of random free hosting
[18:46:43] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2 put it on my server
[18:47:08] <zeeshan|2> tom this is car stuff
[18:47:12] <zeeshan|2> you'll get overloaded
[18:47:23] <Tom_itx> by who?
[18:47:26] <zeeshan|2> car people
[18:47:29] <zeeshan|2> not many have this manual
[18:47:43] <Tom_itx> not many would know where to find it either
[18:47:59] <Tom_itx> unless someone told them
[18:48:35] <Tom_itx> i'd be ok with it
[18:48:55] <zeeshan|2> i am posting it on a forum
[18:48:56] <zeeshan|2> haha
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[18:51:23] <maxcnc> Hi JesusAlos Anotherone on my list to say greatings
[18:51:28] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/ImIkPnH.png
[18:51:29] <zeeshan|2> FINALLYU
[18:51:31] <zeeshan|2> i have this diagram!
[18:51:55] <zeeshan|2> its really all you need to model the body
[18:52:31] <maxcnc> JesusAlos: i got a list from Lothar IchGucksLive to say helow he is in good shape on a open people day ive visited the projekt he is on
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[18:54:40] <JesusAlos> maxcnc: That's fantastic, I'm sure he is enjoying his retired.
[18:55:00] <maxcnc> yes he is
[18:56:18] <CaptHindsight> PeteFromSacramento :)
[18:58:11] <CaptHindsight> who sells small quantities of 304 Stainless Steel Perforated Sheet besides McMaster Carr?
[18:58:24] <CaptHindsight> for instance
http://www.mcmaster.com/#9358t53/=ztnv75
[18:58:44] <roycroft> your local metal yard?
[18:59:08] <CaptHindsight> I can get whatever I want in >1K lbs from several suppliers in the area
[18:59:43] <CaptHindsight> just hard to find <1 sheet suppliers besides Metal Supermarkets and McMaster
[19:00:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mcnichols.com/products/perforated/material/stainless-steel/
[19:02:56] <maxcnc> pcw_home: are you ion ?
[19:03:32] <CaptHindsight> metals depot is 1/3 the price of McMaster
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[19:26:18] <_methods> yeah metals depot for a small amount is probably your best bet
[19:26:45] <_methods> mcnichols is good too
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[19:48:25] <fenn> 95% of those schematic labels are either wire colors or japanized english, which you should be able to decode with an hour's practice learning katakana
[19:48:26] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: in my exp, perf sheet is stupid expensive
[19:48:29] <zeeshan|2> pretty much wheterver you go
[19:48:35] <zeeshan|2> fenn i know
[19:48:35] <zeeshan|2> :P
[19:48:42] <zeeshan|2> fenn: are you japanese?
[19:48:45] <fenn> no
[19:48:59] <zeeshan|2> the colors are native japanese
[19:49:02] <zeeshan|2> some of them were hard to decode
[19:49:03] <zeeshan|2> but i got em now
[19:51:16] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan|2: I'm just finding 1-3x price differences between distis that sell <1 sheet cuts
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[19:55:29] <PetefromTn_> jeez I think I just accidentally lunched my Starrett edge finder :(
[19:55:53] <R2E4> too fast?
[19:56:47] <PetefromTn_> no I was in incremental mode
[19:57:40] <PetefromTn_> and I meant to raise the head after touch off but I THOUGHT I was in Z but I was actually still in Y... so .01 increments and a too aggressive spin of the MPG
[19:57:58] <PetefromTn_> it actually tried to roll over the surface but it got wedged because I was too low
[19:58:07] <PetefromTn_> now it does not seem to function correctly
[19:58:15] <PetefromTn_> it still works but it is kinda sloppy
[19:59:49] <CaptHindsight> I hate it when I do that
[20:00:16] <PetefromTn_> I hate it because its my only edge finder I trust right now
[20:00:19] <duc> Hello all
[20:00:33] <PetefromTn_> hello duc
[20:00:52] <CaptHindsight> could be worse I once jammed a 6" facemill into the part after fogetting to change the axis on the MPG
[20:00:54] <PetefromTn_> is your name duc for Ducati or perhaps a Duck hunter or maybe just you like ducks?
[20:01:14] <duc> Nah deal with the last name. To many dam michaels
[20:01:19] <PetefromTn_> heh I did that with a kurt soft jaw once
[20:01:56] <CaptHindsight> found out how much load it takes to trip the breaker on that mill
[20:02:27] <PetefromTn_> I swear I have the best wife....my wife and youngest daughter right now are cleaning and degreasing the electronics cabinet on my CNC lathe so I can start installing the new schtuff
[20:02:56] <PetefromTn_> I just asked her if she could clean the junk out of the bottom
[20:03:03] <zeeshan|2> haha
[20:03:04] <PetefromTn_> but she decided to REMOVE all of the wire looms
[20:03:05] <zeeshan|2> nice man
[20:03:10] <PetefromTn_> and the din rails
[20:03:15] <PetefromTn_> and put them in the dishwasher
[20:03:29] <PetefromTn_> and degreased the entire inside of the electronics cabinet
[20:03:36] <PetefromTn_> LIFE IS GOOD!! :D
[20:03:56] <PetefromTn_> all while I am running parts on the Cinci
[20:04:02] <duc> Lucky man
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[20:06:43] <PetefromTn_> LOL someone just posted an ad on the facebook Used Machinists forum selling a bunch of Maxaxx servo drives and other components from a Cincinatti Mill.... Wonder if they are going LinuxCNC!!
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[20:09:49] <Duc> PetefromTn I screwed up the purchase of my servo drives. Accidently ordered the MECHATROLINK-II servopack. What a waste of 500 dollars
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[20:12:00] <zeeshan|2> :[
[20:12:35] <CaptHindsight> http://www.immortal.org/20383/spaghetti-strainer-helmet-drivers-license-photo-approved-religious-grounds/
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[20:14:22] <AndChat|407721> PetefromTn_: I messed up the ordering of the servo packs and didn't realize they were mechatrolink-ii versus analog units. $500 wasted
[20:14:27] <CaptHindsight> meeting here on IRC might count for having members and regular meetings
[20:14:48] <AndChat|407721> Need to switch back to duc
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[20:15:14] <CaptHindsight> IANAL but there might be grounds to form a tax exempt CNC church here
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[20:15:19] <PetefromTn_> damn that sucks
[20:15:21] <duc> Much better
[20:15:39] <t12> lol
[20:15:42] <t12> church of the chip
[20:15:51] <duc> Yea. My programming skills are nowhere to the level to make it work
[20:15:52] <PetefromTn_> LinuxCNC CHURCH!!
[20:16:10] <PetefromTn_> I B_E_L_I_E_V_E!!!!
[20:16:18] <PetefromTn_> ;)
[20:16:23] <t12> i think i gotta go to oxtoolco flea markets
[20:16:28] <t12> they seem to be better
[20:16:49] <fenn> where pray tell is that, exactly?
[20:16:57] <t12> eastbayish?
[20:17:06] <t12> hayward? oakland?
[20:17:17] <PetefromTn_> wisconsin?
[20:17:55] <fenn> i've been to the one on the border between berkeley and oakland, it was terrible
[20:18:30] <t12> i'm judging from the stuff he finds
[20:18:34] <t12> theres some terrible easybay oens too
[20:18:46] <t12> today is day of truth re moglice attempt 2
[20:20:53] <zeeshan|2> i'm a radical cncist
[20:20:59] <zeeshan|2> i am anti-tormach
[20:20:59] <zeeshan|2> :-)
[20:21:04] <t12> lol
[20:21:13] <PetefromTn_> Your'e Radical alright ;D
[20:21:22] <PetefromTn_> 're
[20:21:28] <zeeshan|2> my mission in life is to melt all tormachs to make 10000lb mills
[20:21:44] <fenn> noooo
[20:21:47] <t12> lol
[20:21:48] <fenn> every cnc is precious
[20:21:50] <zeeshan|2> they should have at least 40% good steal in them
[20:21:52] <duc> Whys that
[20:21:53] <PetefromTn_> thats gonna take a shitload of tormachs
[20:21:53] <zeeshan|2> *steel
[20:21:57] <zeeshan|2> LOL pete
[20:21:58] <zeeshan|2> hahahaha
[20:22:15] <CaptHindsight> Our Lady of the Perpetual Tormach has been offended
[20:22:44] <zeeshan|2> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/saplgl7x88744c9/AADI4zvT2pebPjtghVPp5RyFa?dl=0
[20:22:47] <zeeshan|2> when you go to that link
[20:22:49] <zeeshan|2> what do you see
[20:22:56] <PetefromTn_> let's see if I can touch off these tools without screwing anything else up..
[20:23:17] <t12> a list of pdfs
[20:23:30] <PetefromTn_> jeez you've been busy
[20:23:58] <XXCoder> 404s zeeshan|2
[20:23:58] <fenn> 404
[20:24:20] <zeeshan|2> fak
[20:24:32] <t12> yeah 404 when clicking on them
[20:25:14] <zeeshan|2> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/saplgl7x88744c9/AADI4zvT2pebPjtghVPp5RyFa?dl=0
[20:25:16] <zeeshan|2> try now
[20:25:32] <t12> works now
[20:25:41] <CaptHindsight> I thought we were only supposed to complain about Mach in here, is there a splinter group that has gone on to Tormach as well?
[20:25:50] <PetefromTn_> where da hell did I put those aluminum inserts...
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[20:37:06] <duc> Errr expense reports suck to fill out
[20:37:27] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/a/1g7I6 NICE AND CLEAN!!
[20:58:28] <PetefromTn_> woah that was close...
[20:58:44] <PetefromTn_> I just tried to swap inserts on my Maritool Facemill
[20:58:58] <PetefromTn_> from the carbide coated for steels to the polished inserts for aluminum
[20:59:05] <Tom_itx> better get a tool holder
[20:59:07] <PetefromTn_> one of thes screws snapped off in there
[20:59:20] <PetefromTn_> you mean a cat40 fixture?
[20:59:28] <Tom_itx> yeah
[20:59:34] <PetefromTn_> I made one awhile back
[20:59:47] <PetefromTn_> it was actually the very first part I made with the Cinci
[20:59:48] <Tom_itx> we put one by every machine
[20:59:55] <PetefromTn_> its a gotta have huh
[20:59:59] <PetefromTn_> anyway
[21:00:10] <PetefromTn_> I sprayed some PB blaster on the stub
[21:00:15] <Tom_itx> zeeshan-lab i figured out my SW problem
[21:00:19] <PetefromTn_> and after awhile it just came right out
[21:00:33] <PetefromTn_> but not I can't find the spare screws I bought for it :(
[21:00:45] <Tom_itx> what are they?
[21:00:50] <Tom_itx> i bet i can get em locally
[21:01:00] <Tom_itx> you probably can too
[21:01:24] <Tom_itx> we tend to have things others don't have around here due to the aircraft
[21:01:47] <PetefromTn_> I bought a couple extra but I can't find em yet
[21:01:58] <PetefromTn_> shop is a bit of a mess right now with all the stuff in boxes everywhere etc..
[21:02:00] <zeeshan|2> what was the problem tom
[21:02:02] <Tom_itx> i hate engineers that try to hide dimensions in drawings
[21:02:21] <zeeshan|2> i hate engineers that dont follow ansi y14.5
[21:02:24] <zeeshan|2> !
[21:02:37] <zeeshan|2> pete that looks brand new mate
[21:02:41] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2, i was relying on an extrusion for part of the dimensioning instead of making construction lines on the same sketch
[21:02:54] <duc> And if they follow to the letter you may hate them more. Alot of profile call outs
[21:02:59] <zeeshan|2> t12 it let you download the pdf?
[21:03:00] <Tom_itx> it ended up the same but i fully defined the sketch
[21:03:18] <PetefromTn_> thanks zeesh
[21:03:29] <PetefromTn_> she is actually scrubbing the wire looms in the bathtub LOL
[21:03:30] <Tom_itx> still learning what you can get by with and what you can't
[21:03:32] <zeeshan|2> you guys use a cat40 fixture why?
[21:03:35] <zeeshan|2> you dont do it in the spindle?
[21:03:39] <Tom_itx> no
[21:03:41] <zeeshan|2> why
[21:03:48] <Tom_itx> not when you're doing a complete setup
[21:03:52] <zeeshan|2> why
[21:03:55] <PetefromTn_> you are not supposed to do it in the spindle it even says that on my machine
[21:03:57] <Tom_itx> swapping holders etc
[21:04:02] <Tom_itx> yeah
[21:04:03] <zeeshan|2> why
[21:04:28] <Tom_itx> beside that we layed them out in order per job on the bench then loaded the carousel
[21:04:33] <PetefromTn_> not sure but I try to never do it,,,,besides its safer in a fixture
[21:04:58] <Tom_itx> i'd rather not drop a tool on my head either
[21:05:07] <zeeshan|2> hm
[21:05:33] <duc> Waste cycle time the machine could be running. Insert swap on spare tool
[21:05:54] <zeeshan|2> i think its more than that
[21:06:34] <zeeshan|2> im not an expert since i was asking why, but logically i would think if you try locking a er32 collet nut on your machine spindle
[21:06:37] <zeeshan|2> and you hammer it tight
[21:06:46] <zeeshan|2> youre putting pulse loads on the ball bearing
[21:06:50] <zeeshan|2> *impulse
[21:06:53] <zeeshan|2> and flattening the balls
[21:07:29] <Tom_itx> any way you look at it, it's better done on the bench
[21:07:38] <zeeshan|2> i differ on that opinion
[21:07:41] <zeeshan|2> but that is just me :P
[21:08:13] <zeeshan|2> pete you were supposed to send me the model for that cat40 holder!
[21:09:04] <DaViruz> http://tovek.se/images/custom/AuctionItem/53692.JPG
[21:09:16] <PetefromTn_> Oh sorry I forgot
[21:09:17] <DaViruz> how'd you imagine that chuck is operated? pneumatics or hydraulics?
[21:09:27] <PetefromTn_> you still want it?
[21:09:30] <zeeshan|2> yes
[21:09:36] <zeeshan|2> wanna see how you did it
[21:09:52] <PetefromTn_> its just a plate of 3/4
[21:09:52] <zeeshan|2> DaViruz: hydraulic
[21:09:59] <PetefromTn_> nothing fancy
[21:10:03] <zeeshan|2> anddddd
[21:10:03] <DaViruz> http://tovek.se/images/custom/AuctionItem/53694.JPG
[21:10:06] <zeeshan|2> with a big hole in it?
[21:10:09] <zeeshan|2> and you bolt in 2 keys?
[21:10:15] <PetefromTn_> no
[21:10:20] <PetefromTn_> hang on lemme try to find it
[21:10:35] <DaViruz> i don't see ha hydraulic pump in the pictures, so i guess that's missing then :/
[21:11:12] <DaViruz> should be simple enough to cobble something together though i guess
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[21:13:14] <PetefromTn_> zeeshan whats your dropbox? or do I even need it
[21:13:20] <zeeshan|2> you dont need it
[21:13:24] <zeeshan|2> right click on the file and click share
[21:13:47] <duc> PetefromTn_: just got the ebay offer for the correct drives at 213 versus the 159 for the mechatrolink ones. Wife is going to be pissed
[21:14:07] <Tom_itx> don't tell her?
[21:14:47] <duc> I travel way to much not to be open with her. And she is home when the shit arrives
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[21:17:39] <PetefromTn_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/umqb4s6a6cjptkj/Cat40fixture.stl?dl=0
[21:18:41] <PetefromTn_> does that work for you?
[21:19:11] <zeeshan|2> yes
[21:19:36] <zeeshan|2> can you export it in something else?
[21:19:37] <PetefromTn_> now I don't remember if I had to make adjustments to it but that is the drawing I made the part from
[21:19:39] <zeeshan|2> not stl
[21:19:43] <zeeshan|2> like x_t
[21:19:45] <zeeshan|2> or step
[21:19:52] <PetefromTn_> shit
[21:19:59] <PetefromTn_> I can later
[21:20:06] <zeeshan|2> because stl is a buncha triangles for me
[21:20:07] <PetefromTn_> right now I got to get these parts machined
[21:20:10] <zeeshan|2> and id have to do a bunch of shit
[21:20:11] <zeeshan|2> yea no problem
[21:20:19] <zeeshan|2> im liking what i see!
[21:20:20] <PetefromTn_> I will do it tho
[21:20:39] <zeeshan|2> so you got a clamp basically
[21:20:43] <duc> Cat 40 standards are also on the Web everywhere
[21:20:45] <zeeshan|2> where do those 4 bolts go?
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[21:20:52] <zeeshan|2> duc i have those
[21:20:54] <PetefromTn_> oh wait
[21:20:58] <PetefromTn_> I think I have a .step
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[21:21:50] <PetefromTn_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez30aaxganfjpna/Cat40fixturetest.step?dl=0
[21:22:16] <zeeshan|2> there we go
[21:22:18] <PetefromTn_> the four holes are what you bolt the damn thing down to your table with... or to your machine
[21:22:19] <zeeshan|2> thats a solid body :D
[21:22:26] <PetefromTn_> yeah sorry
[21:22:32] <PetefromTn_> its a freecad model ;)
[21:22:35] <zeeshan|2> and those 2 notches
[21:22:37] <zeeshan|2> in the circle
[21:22:57] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[21:23:08] <PetefromTn_> its a big clamp
[21:23:17] <PetefromTn_> altho I never use the clamp part
[21:23:27] <PetefromTn_> as mine is pretty snug I just drop the tool in
[21:24:17] <zeeshan|2> okay isee it now
[21:24:22] <zeeshan|2> it grabs on the v-flange part
[21:24:29] <zeeshan|2> and the block thing is the key
[21:29:27] <zeeshan|2> http://www.industrydepot.com/images/Techniks12pack.jpg
[21:29:28] <zeeshan|2> rofl
[21:29:35] <zeeshan|2> 6 packs of tool holders
[21:29:36] <zeeshan|2> i like.
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[21:44:07] <PetefromTn_> can't wait to start stuffing this electronics cabinet with brand new goodies :D
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[21:52:34] <duc> What are you going to drop in it?
[21:52:39] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_, iges is a good way to transfer the file
[21:53:56] <JT-Shop> PetefromTn_, did you get the motherboard?
[21:54:46] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx transger what file
[21:54:59] <PetefromTn_> JT-Shop yeah I have almost everything here now
[21:55:28] <PetefromTn_> now if I could just find those damn facemill screws :D
[21:56:35] <Tom_itx> that stl file
[21:56:43] <PetefromTn_> ah
[21:57:01] <PetefromTn_> well this way anyone can have it on dropbox
[21:57:22] <Tom_itx> stl makes it all screwy though
[21:58:15] <Deejay> gn8
[21:58:16] <PetefromTn_> I figured most here have solidworks or better so it would work
[21:58:23] <PetefromTn_> GN8 DEEJAY!!
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[22:01:42] <JT-Shop> I'll be so glad to get the outside of the shop done!
[22:02:10] <Tom_itx> it does work but there are no layers etc with it
[22:02:11] <XXCoder> too bad solidworks is windows only
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[22:04:13] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, what you got left to do?
[22:04:23] <Tom_itx> you gonna try to paint before winter??
[22:05:25] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_, i'm pretty sure iges gives you more of the dimensioning that you can't get with stl
[22:06:57] <JT-Shop> wrap the garage doors so I can finish the siding then move the carport out so I can do the south side
[22:07:34] <Tom_itx> oh one of those freestanding carports?
[22:07:35] <JT-Shop> the east side is all doors lol, 4 garage and 2 man doors
[22:07:39] <JT-Shop> yea
[22:07:57] <JT-Shop> pick up one end with the backhoe and drag it out some
[22:08:06] <XXCoder> doors behind doors. doors all way in
[22:08:15] <Tom_itx> just don't bend the legs
[22:08:23] <JT-Shop> lol yea
[22:08:45] <Tom_itx> stick a couple 2x under the drug leg side
[22:09:05] <JT-Shop> my neighbor moved his a few times with his jap tractor, has such a low gear the tractor pulls one side and he pulls the other one
[22:09:25] <JT-Shop> I'll pick it in the middle and pull from the center
[22:10:35] <Tom_itx> nothing quite like a bowl of homemade chicken noodle soup on a cold day
[22:11:30] <JT-Shop> chicken and dumplins on the stove now
[22:11:39] <Tom_itx> mmm those are good too
[22:11:53] <JT-Shop> it's not even cold here
[22:12:09] <Tom_itx> it's not all that cold but windy which makes it seem that way
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[22:13:01] <JT-Shop> wife cooks a whole chicken and pulls the meat off, I make the stock after then we freeze it in containers and add the dumplins when we cook some
[22:13:22] <JT-Shop> tried freezing the dumplins but that was terrible
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[22:22:15] <Tom_itx> doesn't last long enough to freeze around here
[22:23:43] <JT-Shop> only 2 of us so we get 4 meals from one chicken
[22:23:54] <Tom_itx> yeah
[22:24:32] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c07piork9kepgbs/2015-11-15%2017.20.24.jpg?dl=0
[22:24:41] <_methods> neighbor just gave me that
[22:25:14] <_methods> crazy he says they just throw it all away where he works
[22:26:06] <Tom_itx> any ends on it?
[22:26:28] <_methods> nah
[22:26:33] <_methods> all straps
[22:27:01] <_methods> i have a sewing machine for stuff like that though
[22:27:05] <Tom_itx> still good for something
[22:27:19] <_methods> the ratchets are cheap
[22:27:30] <_methods> $4 from uscargo i think
[22:27:35] <Tom_itx> yeah i get that stuff bulk at the yard here
[22:27:40] <Tom_itx> when i need one
[22:27:57] <_methods> i have no idea what i'm gonna do with it all lol
[22:27:59] <Tom_itx> iirc they have the ratchets etc too
[22:28:31] <_methods> gonna make the wife some of those reusable grocery bags
[22:28:34] <_methods> going green lol
[22:34:43] <zeeshan|2> holy shit
[22:34:44] <zeeshan|2> i want some!!!!!!!1
[22:34:48] <zeeshan|2> those are expensive
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[23:06:41] <Sync> zeeshan|2: just got back
[23:06:48] <Sync> what a fucking mess
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[23:19:35] * JT-Shop wonders how long to let the goatee grow
[23:20:18] <malcom2073> At the very least until you are sufficiently creepy
[23:20:27] <_methods> still you start getting asked questions about whether you're involved in terrorist activities
[23:20:37] <_methods> s/still/until
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[23:28:49] <XXCoder> _methods: nice
[23:28:55] <XXCoder> you can make outside chair using em
[23:29:18] <XXCoder> very strong, stronger than usual lounge crap
[23:29:19] <CaptHindsight> go green literally by consuming them!
[23:33:08] <_methods> ah good idea on the chair
[23:34:45] <CaptHindsight> is there a basket weaving class nearby?
[23:34:50] <_methods> hahah
[23:34:55] <_methods> maybe now
[23:36:27] <CaptHindsight> just box it up and sell it as Makerstrap
[23:36:42] <XXCoder> kickstart it as Makerstrip[
[23:38:30] <_methods> hahahaha
[23:38:56] <_methods> make a 3d printer out of straps
[23:39:07] <CaptHindsight> or market a sales kit for $29.95 "How to make millions while sleeping with Makerstrap!"
[23:39:24] <_methods> oh sleeping..... i smell a hammock coming
[23:39:51] <XXCoder> must be very smelly hammock
[23:39:56] <CaptHindsight> miracle strap
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[23:40:15] <XXCoder> Just like ones you see in store, only uniquely kickstarter branded!
[23:40:54] <CaptHindsight> and if you order right now we'll send you 2 rolls of miracle tape, strap on one side and the other has a very sticky glue
[23:41:17] <CaptHindsight> 1001 uses
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[23:46:42] <XXCoder> dang thats good photoshop job
http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/7/0/475470_v1.jpg
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