#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-11-14

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[00:00:21] <Tom_itx> some machines want handshaking
[00:00:28] <Tom_itx> others don't care
[00:00:32] <Rap2_> I can get master cam to write it, and if hyperterm can do that should be ez to do from command line
[00:00:47] <Rap2_> I know the one in master cam works
[00:01:03] <Tom_itx> he started having timing issues with hyperterm so i took something else out and set it up and he's still using it
[00:01:18] <Tom_itx> just can't remember the name and i can't get to it atm... doing some installs
[00:01:24] <Rap2_> does he run a funuc?
[00:01:41] <Tom_itx> some were
[00:01:45] <Tom_itx> it's an old tree
[00:01:51] <Tom_itx> that he has now
[00:02:07] <Rap2_> I was usint a ethernet to serial converter to run it over the network, it works 80% of the time
[00:02:07] <Tom_itx> tree, fadal, okuma mostly
[00:02:28] <Tom_itx> i ran serial boosters midway across his shop for a couple
[00:02:35] <Rap2_> even a long serial cable is funkey and there are no such things as serial ports anyomre
[00:02:53] <Tom_itx> just about every pc i have has serial
[00:03:16] <Rap2_> since serial ports had interrupts and USB ports dont Im thinking an adapter is not 100% like trying to do parrellel
[00:03:43] <Rap2_> you can by very modern industrial PC's with serial ports
[00:03:57] <Rap2_> I was going to pick one up and shove it directly in the mill and vnc into it
[00:04:37] <RootB_b> Can someone
[00:04:39] <RootB_b> tell me what jsut happen fuck
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[00:06:29] <Tom_itx> Rap2_, it was realterm
[00:06:51] <Tom_itx> http://sourceforge.net/projects/realterm/
[00:07:21] <Tom_itx> if it's running too fast for the machine you can add delays etc
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[00:25:30] <Rap2_> Cool thanks Tom_itx
[00:26:45] <Tom_itx> just pick ascii download
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[00:35:11] <Tom_itx> breaking news.. terrorist attacks in paris
[00:36:25] <PetefromTn_> yeah been watching it
[00:40:18] <Tom_itx> ready to start your lathe build?
[00:40:42] <PetefromTn_> yeah the plan this weekend is to try to get some work done on it
[00:41:41] <PetefromTn_> I have to do some painting on the body still uncompleted then if I can get that done I will probably start cleaning inside the electronics cabinet and try to get it ready to start accepting the new components
[00:42:13] <PetefromTn_> I kinda have it up against the wall in the shop and have cleaned everything BUt the inside of the cabinet as I need to move it away from the wall.
[00:51:17] <PetefromTn_> however I do have a bunch of rails to machine as well...
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[01:05:46] <_methods> wtf i love eagles of death metal too
[01:06:55] <PetefromTn_> this is the first I have heard of em
[01:07:08] <_methods> ah cool band
[01:07:21] <_methods> these damn terrorists man
[01:07:31] <PetefromTn_> well apparently the band is all safe
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[01:08:40] <_methods> crazy
[01:09:16] <_methods> i don't understand their obsession with attacking soft targets
[01:09:23] <_methods> they're such pussies
[01:09:58] <PetefromTn_> yeah I have to agree...
[01:10:14] <_methods> no strategic value whatsoever
[01:10:16] <PetefromTn_> its the height of cowardice to attack defenseless people
[01:12:38] <Wolf_> terrorists don’t make good martyr
[01:13:40] <_methods> i mean if they would stop this stuff we'd just pull out
[01:14:05] <_methods> like if they just quit attacking for a year the usa would get bored and just pull out
[01:14:28] <_methods> then they can go back to slap each other with shoes and covering their women with truckloads of towels
[01:15:06] <PetefromTn_> if only it were that simple
[01:15:08] <_methods> but stuff like this makes people want to go back in there and put a foot on someones throat
[01:15:42] <Wolf_> jihad war isn’t really new… and isn’t going away
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[01:17:21] <Wolf_> its just that they have gained much traction in the middle east as the people toppled the dictator govs that were keeping the radicals in check
[01:17:25] <_methods> "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
[01:17:32] <_methods> -george carlin
[01:18:11] <_methods> religious leaders have been taking advantage of them since the dawn of time
[01:21:29] <Wolf_> governments like them too
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[01:27:38] <Jymmm> Very cool... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRn2S7iPNU
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[01:31:22] <_methods> cats.......
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[01:51:14] <XXCoder> nice
[01:51:21] <XXCoder> elio p5 is almost done
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[01:52:47] <XXCoder> http://www.eliomotors.com/p5-are-you-ready/
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[02:17:18] <XXCoder> you guys saw this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k?ref=hero
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[02:46:57] <XXCoder> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/728/633/416856c6bac100c76c1e9b8b7f87dc83_original.JPG?v=1445326180&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=a47b4170ab497db9fcbf645992604eeb
[02:47:07] <XXCoder> whats up with people keep using gloves with lathes!
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[03:00:42] <_methods> some people just don't like their body parts attached to their bodies
[03:01:50] <Jymmm> some ppl dont like metal shaving in their flesh either
[03:02:34] <Jymmm> alum slivers are a FUCKING BITCH!!!!
[03:02:47] <_methods> 4140
[03:02:59] <_methods> that stuff makes splinters like nothing else
[03:04:36] <Tom_itx> run your lathe naked
[03:04:54] <Tom_itx> safest bet for clothing catching
[03:04:57] <_methods> schamalangadingdong
[03:05:11] <Tom_itx> stuff is alot different here.. :)
[03:05:17] <Tom_itx> taking a bit to find stuff
[03:06:48] <XXCoder> Jymmm: I'd use rubber gloves thats very easily rip off hands
[03:07:10] <XXCoder> rather than tough gloves that take hand with it
[03:15:05] <Jymmm> those black gloves DO rip easily, the chem gloves I have do not =)
[03:21:08] <XXCoder> fun
[03:21:25] <XXCoder> I dont wanna lose half or more of my talking ability thank you very much
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[03:48:58] <zeeshan> Howdy
[03:49:08] <XXCoder> hey PHD
[03:49:11] <XXCoder> whats up
[03:49:16] <XXCoder> whats you doing now zeeshan
[03:49:19] <zeeshan> reading my japanese manual
[03:49:19] <zeeshan> lol
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[03:49:29] <Contract_Pilot> Sup...
[03:51:05] <Contract_Pilot> So busy checking magazines.
[03:51:36] <Contract_Pilot> Beer Brake!
[03:51:40] <XXCoder> yoo much info Contract_Pilot
[03:52:01] <Tom_itx> limit: 3
[03:52:12] <Tom_itx> u had too many last weekend
[03:52:28] <zeeshan> check this out
[03:52:29] <zeeshan> lol
[03:52:30] <Contract_Pilot> On #2
[03:52:35] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/IKCcWuk.png
[03:52:43] <Contract_Pilot> Hands caked with cosmoline
[03:52:55] <Contract_Pilot> out of dawn!
[03:53:01] <Tom_itx> zeeshan translate please
[03:53:04] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/SjR9OpP.png
[03:53:08] <Contract_Pilot> bar soap dont work well.
[03:53:08] <zeeshan> there is subtle differences
[03:53:12] <zeeshan> between american version and jap
[03:53:25] <_methods> mix some oildry with it lol
[03:53:39] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, why?
[03:53:45] <zeeshan> not sure
[03:53:57] <Tom_itx> different power requirements?
[03:54:03] <zeeshan> nah
[03:54:06] <zeeshan> different locations of things
[03:54:10] <zeeshan> like for example b1-09
[03:54:14] <zeeshan> is b1-11 in the jap
[03:54:18] <Connor> Contract_Pilot: WD40
[03:54:23] <zeeshan> and diff colors
[03:54:49] <Contract_Pilot> Well moved a few of them walmart motors and drivs paid for my mesa cards and made my money back still ahve 4-5 sets
[03:55:05] <Contract_Pilot> + Some to do my machine!
[03:55:25] <XXCoder> nice
[03:55:35] <Contract_Pilot> then sold that spectralight controller also!
[03:55:37] <zeeshan> nice
[03:55:41] <XXCoder> I evenually want to upgrade my machine
[03:56:02] <zeeshan> holy shit
[03:56:05] <zeeshan> this manual is so DETAILED
[03:56:06] <zeeshan> WOWW!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:56:22] <Contract_Pilot> Still not sure what to do with the 7I76 may switch to servo on my G0704
[03:56:29] <Tom_itx> enough to build it from the ground up?
[03:56:44] <zeeshan> yes tom!!!!!!!
[03:56:45] <zeeshan> literally!!
[03:56:57] <Tom_itx> well that's what you paid the big bux for
[03:57:23] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/YMEELeJ.png
[03:57:24] <Contract_Pilot> My friend did adurino fuel injection controller for his hot rod.
[03:57:25] <zeeshan> us version doesnt have this
[03:57:27] <zeeshan> guess what that is!!!!!!!!
[03:57:56] <Contract_Pilot> Spot weld locations
[03:58:00] <zeeshan> yea!!
[03:58:00] <zeeshan> haha
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[03:58:36] <Contract_Pilot> http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/AK-Build-Shop.jpg
[03:58:38] <Tom_itx> that looks like an auto body though
[03:58:48] <zeeshan> oh this isn'
[03:58:51] <zeeshan> t my lathe manual
[03:58:53] <zeeshan> its for my car :P
[03:58:54] <Contract_Pilot> I have a miller 240V
[03:59:02] <Tom_itx> oh well pfft then
[03:59:26] <Contract_Pilot> .1 to .2 seconds to per weld on ak-47 inner rails
[03:59:57] <Contract_Pilot> Set up is a PITA
[04:00:11] <zeeshan> haha
[04:00:19] <zeeshan> how to learn japanese in an hour?
[04:01:05] <Tom_itx> just hire a little japanese girl to read it to you
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[04:01:32] <renesis> i learned to read korean in about an hour so i could read my hotel heater controls
[04:01:42] <renesis> proper setting = rushing river
[04:02:31] <renesis> you are probably fucked, korean is known to be very easy to learn
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[04:20:54] <Contract_Pilot> I learned aribic numbers
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[04:26:58] <Contract_Pilot> Ok, back to work on case #2
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[06:51:10] <maxcnc> hi all seams all gone to sleep
[06:51:16] <maxcnc> pcw_home: still awake
[06:53:09] <maxcnc> Rap2_: are you one
[06:54:44] <maxcnc> Rap2_: Deckel got realy good stuff for serial communication towards fanuc search fr Maho500E Programming and you will find it
[06:55:25] <maxcnc> ok im going to work will maybe log in from the mashine itself if i cand make it working today
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[07:56:56] <Deejay> moin
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[09:06:19] <XXCoder> check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNvoFTV5tIE
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[09:30:31] <smainj> help
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[09:31:11] <XXCoder> wow that was long and detailed.
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[09:39:22] <archivist> strange expectations of IRC
[09:39:31] <XXCoder> yeah
[09:39:56] <XXCoder> or he or she or it is part of homo telepathitis and expected us to read mind
[09:41:40] <XXCoder> what the hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0k04hjdYuQ
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[09:54:00] <Jymmmm> XXCoder: http://www.igwmbh.de/en/expertise/vibration-welding/bielomatik-k3215.html
[09:54:28] <XXCoder> cool
[09:54:39] <XXCoder> I do wonder on strength of joint
[09:54:49] <XXCoder> if its weaker than bglue then really no point
[09:54:57] <Jymmmm> The machine is real, the video is probably marketing hype
[09:55:29] <XXCoder> article has people talking about it and theres links to more info but whatever
[09:55:44] <Jymmmm> for wood?
[09:55:49] <XXCoder> yeah
[09:56:10] <Jymmmm> I didn't see anything else about wood,
[09:56:24] <XXCoder> hackaday article
[09:56:40] <Jymmmm> all i saw was the video link
[09:56:48] <XXCoder> yeah getting it a sec
[09:57:42] <XXCoder> http://hackaday.com/2015/11/08/friction-welding-wood/
[09:58:28] <Jymmmm> http://web.utk.edu/~mtaylo29/pages/Wood%20welding.htm
[09:58:56] <XXCoder> nice!
[09:59:58] <XXCoder> yet another discovery by accient. vulcanized rubber is another
[10:00:15] <Jymmmm> A:: discoveries are by accident
[10:00:19] <Jymmmm> ALL*
[10:01:03] <XXCoder> http://hackaday.com/2015/11/05/spark-plug-lights-the-darkness/
[10:01:09] <XXCoder> pretty cool
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[10:10:39] <Jymmmm> Refill aerosol cans... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mimSDtqljMA
[10:10:57] <XXCoder> nice
[10:12:39] <XXCoder> looks pretty strightforward so far.
[10:13:29] <Jymmmm> paint is like $7/can now, if you got a dud, might be a quick fix
[10:13:54] <XXCoder> wonder if can build refiller too, inject whatever material like wd40
[10:14:03] <XXCoder> because non-pressured bulk wd40 cheaper
[10:14:05] <BitEvil> Jymmmm: not quite true.
[10:14:15] <BitEvil> Jymmmm: you can suspect something is true, and go searching for it.
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[10:19:03] <XXCoder> but does he inject wd40?
[10:19:15] <Jymmm> No
[10:19:32] <Jymmm> WD40 cans somtimes run out of air before running out of product
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[10:20:47] <Jymmm> XXCoder: There are refillable cans http://www.woodturningvideosplus.com/images/spray-gun-gang3.jpg
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[10:22:02] <XXCoder> nice
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[10:45:25] <XXCoder> jeez
[10:45:36] <XXCoder> they had so many dirty jokes in old comics. https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5270101248/h17619B1B/
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[11:39:39] <plasma_ger> hi all
[11:39:49] <plasma_ger> pcw_home: ? online
[11:39:56] <XXCoder> hey 4th state of matter
[11:41:18] <plasma_ger> pcw ? onine on communication problems
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[11:44:46] <plasma_ger> i updated with sauccess all the cards to newest softwar and now it does not run
[11:44:54] <plasma_ger> hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0 error = (13) Communication error
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[11:45:07] <plasma_ger> hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0 error = (4) Extra character
[11:45:21] <plasma_ger> The mashine itself runs perfect
[11:45:35] <plasma_ger> till the plasma firers up then it craches
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[11:54:52] <JT-Mint> it's mighty early on the west coast
[11:55:18] <archivist> he has left again, never waits
[11:55:21] <XXCoder> heh he dont leave much of time for pcw to answer eh
[11:55:31] <JT-Mint> lol
[11:55:43] <XXCoder> 6 whole minutes wow
[11:55:45] * JT-Mint has to find a different keyboard
[11:55:54] <JT-Mint> I'm liking mint
[11:55:57] <archivist> a minty fresh one?
[11:56:07] <JT-Mint> a well behaved one
[11:56:13] <XXCoder> mint flavored mint
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[12:08:40] <XXCoder> mint in native tea
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[12:18:14] <XXCoder> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/czur-scanner-build-your-own-digital-library#/
[12:18:16] <XXCoder> whoa
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[12:24:44] <magnifikus> so if i want to create the perfect fitted fpga based stepper controller for linuxcnc
[12:24:57] <magnifikus> how much features i need?
[12:25:16] <magnifikus> like full ramp generator or even waypoints?
[12:25:29] <magnifikus> dunno how deep i can dig into hal
[12:25:59] <SpeedEvil> 'perfect' would involve full HAL really
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[12:26:11] <SpeedEvil> that is - support for everything including rigid tapping and ...
[12:26:23] <magnifikus> im running a zynq atm, so its sits in memory space
[12:26:57] <SpeedEvil> At the least, you'd want to support ramps, and multi-axis commonalities.
[12:27:17] <SpeedEvil> To do things like rigid-tapping and such.
[12:27:38] <magnifikus> currently im thinking about multi axis synchronous ramps
[12:27:45] <magnifikus> that shouldnt be that hard
[12:28:04] <magnifikus> also thinking about an optional spi interface to just use a spartan3/6 with pi/odroid
[12:28:06] <magnifikus> over spi
[12:28:07] <SpeedEvil> And probably supports for things like overtorque inputs
[12:28:10] <SpeedEvil> which gets complex
[12:28:35] <magnifikus> overtorque can be interesting, because the tmc5130a got a stallguard feature
[12:28:38] <SpeedEvil> - what to do if a tap or tool is going to break
[12:28:39] <magnifikus> that reports shaft load
[12:29:36] <magnifikus> ah rigid tapping is chip breaking based on overtorque while drilling?
[12:30:49] <magnifikus> ah no sry threading
[12:32:07] <magnifikus> okay will dig into hal then, using picnc2 but that looks like just stepwidth updates
[12:32:16] <magnifikus> so accel done by linuxcnc/hal
[12:32:19] <SpeedEvil> Rigid tapping is actively controlling tap advance and another axis to rotate the tap
[12:32:43] <SpeedEvil> So that it moves along the thread path without requiring any slop or free movement
[12:32:55] <magnifikus> the thought about that earlier, because we need to thread about 200 M2 holes
[12:33:03] <magnifikus> and factor human is expensive for our university lab
[12:33:14] <magnifikus> if he breaks a tool every 30 holes
[12:33:29] <_methods> you'll break more than that with a homemade cnc on m2 taps
[12:33:44] <magnifikus> hey its an good old isel cnc
[12:33:46] <_methods> better buy lots of extras lol
[12:33:47] <SpeedEvil> m2 in what?
[12:33:53] <magnifikus> aluminium
[12:34:01] <_methods> snap central
[12:34:11] <SpeedEvil> Properly size the drilled holes, and put a lubricated bolt in
[12:34:17] <SpeedEvil> sort-of-kidding
[12:34:36] <magnifikus> its the housing for our radar hf stuff
[12:34:48] <SpeedEvil> Use a different fixture
[12:34:52] <SpeedEvil> Rivet, ...
[12:35:07] <magnifikus> but the threading is more like a dream right now .)
[12:35:20] <magnifikus> running with this cheap china stepper drivers and picnc2
[12:35:45] <magnifikus> works well that is suprising, but i want to build something proper now
[12:36:31] <magnifikus> so dig into hal howto interface :)
[12:37:06] <SpeedEvil> There was a related effort on linuxcnc accelleration on the PRUs of the BBB - look thatup
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[12:41:45] <magnifikus> still need to figure out howto get the about 100 config variables to the motor driver
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[12:42:00] <magnifikus> maybe a eeprom on beside the fpga and serial interface to tune it
[12:42:26] <magnifikus> lets see
[12:42:35] <archivist> just need to see how the mesa cards talk to linuxcnc
[12:45:46] <magnifikus> ethernet spi or pci i see
[12:47:52] <magnifikus> oh and parport indeed
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[13:20:55] <maxcnc> hi ;-)
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[13:21:41] <maxcnc> magnifikus: cheep china is quit good with the default setup
[13:22:00] <magnifikus> but not this 5amp 20€ drivers
[13:22:05] <maxcnc> pcw_home: on ?
[13:22:18] <magnifikus> 2 went smoke after a week
[13:22:36] <magnifikus> so our z-axis is now fullstep lm298 driven
[13:22:42] <maxcnc> oh smoke is quit good for resellers#
[13:22:52] <magnifikus> sounds like crushed gears
[13:23:06] <magnifikus> problem was, we mounted them on a big heatsink
[13:23:09] <maxcnc> why not halfsteppig
[13:23:15] <magnifikus> didnt help voided warant
[13:23:16] <magnifikus> y
[13:23:21] <maxcnc> i did some good ald stuff on that
[13:23:24] <magnifikus> or halfstep not sure
[13:23:32] <magnifikus> sounds horrible
[13:23:37] <maxcnc> agree
[13:23:51] <magnifikus> my tmc5130a run at 264 microsteps now
[13:23:56] <maxcnc> its the acceleration that makes the main noice
[13:24:09] <magnifikus> got them upto 10rev/s with fpga based step puleses
[13:24:12] <maxcnc> Did you intervent the board frequency
[13:24:19] <maxcnc> i had that on the tb6560
[13:24:21] <Jymmm> Used aircraft tug, Towing Capacity: 175,000 lbs
[13:25:03] <magnifikus> so i guess best is to create own stepgen take the position-cmd and forward that to the fpga
[13:25:13] <magnifikus> providing position-feedback
[13:25:23] <magnifikus> digging deeper into the TP isnt good i guess
[13:25:27] <magnifikus> like queueing
[13:29:00] <maxcnc> someone knows if i can fallback from 2.8master to 2.54 the base install
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[13:30:52] <maxcnc> going out for i bikeride
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[13:48:17] <Guest83797> getting super frustrated with this vfd
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[13:48:31] <Jymmm> LICK IT
[13:49:08] <chuckbob> linuxcnc is outputting the correct voltages on the two lines going to it, however, the vfd is going straight to 400hz
[13:49:30] <chuckbob> and when measuring the output from the vfd analog terminals, the voltage is 9.4vdc
[13:49:46] <jthornton> what kind of vfd?
[13:49:58] <chuckbob> hitachi wj200
[13:50:51] <chuckbob> with the spindle output set to zero in linuxcnc, this still happens
[13:51:21] <chuckbob> if I touch the reference ground wire, the spindle stops
[13:51:29] <jthornton> you get 9.4v when M5 is current
[13:52:07] <chuckbob> with the wires disconnected from the vfd, everything works as advertised
[13:52:24] <chuckbob> i can click the +/- spindle speed buttons in the gui and see the increase/decrease
[13:53:11] <jthornton> is the vfd set up to take analog voltage and enable?
[13:53:22] <jthornton> just guessing here
[13:54:00] <chuckbob> yes, using the manual enable as I don't have my 7i37 set up yet
[13:54:07] <chuckbob> manual enable with a voltage input
[13:55:21] <jthornton> for troubleshooting try using a 1.5v battery and see if the vfd is set up properly
[13:55:29] <chuckbob> it is, been there, done that
[13:55:50] <chuckbob> i get about 55hz-ish
[13:59:04] <jthornton> so there is nothing wrong with the vfd
[13:59:13] * Tom_itx wonders of jthornton has a power hydraulic caulker
[14:00:08] <chuckbob> right
[14:00:21] <chuckbob> confusing part.. I had this running over a year ago and dismantled it
[14:00:21] <jthornton> yea manual power caulker
[14:00:23] <Tom_itx> morning
[14:00:26] <chuckbob> i remember having an issue then
[14:00:35] <chuckbob> and thought somebody had told me to install a resistor somewhere on the input
[14:00:35] <jthornton> morning Tom_itx
[14:01:10] <jthornton> none of my spindles use analog voltage so I don't have an example near by
[14:01:25] <Tom_itx> hmm, all pwm?
[14:01:33] <jthornton> are you using a 5i20?
[14:01:54] <jthornton> one is a servo drive so that is analog come to think of it
[14:02:11] <chuckbob> 4i65
[14:02:41] <chuckbob> should be same as the 5i20
[14:03:18] <jthornton> I can copy my spindle section of the CHNC if that would help
[14:03:46] <chuckbob> i don't think that is an issue.. as I can see the voltage increase/decrease with the wires disconencted
[14:04:01] <jthornton> ok
[14:04:06] <chuckbob> appreciate it though
[14:06:58] <archivist> measure each end of your wires to a common reference
[14:10:10] <chuckbob> the aout wire measures 0V to all of the other aout references on board
[14:10:58] <archivist> yes but at vfd? is it open?
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[14:15:37] <chuckbob> at the vfd, measuring the analog in wire, with it disconnected, measures 0v back to all gnds on the 7i33
[14:15:40] <zeeshan> morning
[14:16:27] <chuckbob> this can't be too complicated, simple wiring to this thing
[14:16:31] <chuckbob> two damn wires
[14:17:55] <chuckbob> jthornton: would you post your spindle section? Will just make sure of this
[14:18:23] <zeeshan> chuckbob: question
[14:18:24] <jthornton> yea, just a moment
[14:18:31] <zeeshan> how are you testing your vfd?
[14:18:39] <chuckbob> i have tested it with a AA battery
[14:18:42] <zeeshan> are you using mdi or manually triggering the analg output
[14:18:53] <chuckbob> just did it again, got 44hz
[14:19:11] <zeeshan> (from linuxcnc)
[14:19:45] <chuckbob> so the issue is, with a fresh reboot, I open up linuxcnc... the minute i press run from the vfd, it goes immediately to 400hz
[14:19:51] <zeeshan> okay
[14:19:55] <archivist> does the voltage vary from the analogue output
[14:19:59] <zeeshan> can you do me a favor?
[14:20:03] <zeeshan> you should bypass linuxcnc
[14:20:04] <chuckbob> absolutely
[14:20:05] <zeeshan> go into hal
[14:20:10] <zeeshan> and directly set the voltage for that analog output
[14:20:12] <zeeshan> and see what happens
[14:20:19] <zeeshan> to eliminate linuxcnc configuration as an issue
[14:20:40] <chuckbob> i'm somewhat new to that.. just a quick overview
[14:21:07] <chuckbob> just halrun
[14:21:18] <zeeshan> yes, but you need to initialize mesa hardware
[14:21:25] <zeeshan> im trying to find out where i stored th commands
[14:21:35] <zeeshan> andypugh has done it so much that he's memorized it lol
[14:22:59] <zeeshan> so halrun; then
[14:23:05] <zeeshan> loadrt hostmot2
[14:23:18] <zeeshan> addf hm2_5i25.0.write servo-thread
[14:23:26] <zeeshan> er sorry
[14:23:30] <zeeshan> addf hm2_5i25.0.read servo-thread
[14:23:37] <zeeshan> then addf hm2_5i25.0.write servo-thread
[14:23:51] <zeeshan> addf hm2_5i25.0.write servo-thread
[14:23:55] <zeeshan> then do show pin to see if it worked
[14:25:10] <zeeshan> then before you can manually trigger your analog outputs
[14:25:48] <zeeshan> you will need to set hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.1.analogena to true/1
[14:26:10] <jthornton> he has a 4i65
[14:26:11] <zeeshan> (or similar)
[14:28:25] <chuckbob> when i addf hm2_4i65.0.read servo-thread, i get a not found
[14:28:50] <chuckbob> the loadrt hostmot2 isn't an issue
[14:29:01] <zeeshan> wont be since thats just a generic driver for mesa stuff
[14:29:19] <chuckbob> do i need to use hm2_pci or anything similar
[14:29:22] <chuckbob> or just hostmot2
[14:29:49] <zeeshan> i'm not sure of the commands on how to power up your 4i65
[14:30:28] <jthornton> should be the same as a 5i20
[14:30:46] <chuckbob> pretty sure you have to loadrt hm2_pci
[14:31:51] <jthornton> getting the file now
[14:32:09] <chuckbob> hell if i know
[14:32:28] <chuckbob> the thing is, the spindle runs whether or not linuxcnc is open
[14:33:14] <chuckbob> i have a fwd/run switch.. i turn it on, and without the analog input wires connected, it sits there
[14:33:28] <chuckbob> if i connect the wires, it goes to 400hz
[14:34:00] <chuckbob> the wires are run twisted pair with a shield.. the shield only connects to the vfd
[14:34:10] <chuckbob> with the ref/gnd wire
[14:34:23] <chuckbob> if i touch that shield, it goes back to 0hz
[14:37:42] <jthornton> http://pastebin.ca/3252665
[14:38:15] <archivist> he already has xyz running iirc this is just vfd
[14:38:25] <chuckbob> yes, everything else works great
[14:38:54] <archivist> this touching and going back to 0 smells of wiring errors
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[14:39:10] <zeeshan> its good to eliminate config
[14:39:11] <archivist> where abouts are you
[14:39:13] <zeeshan> bypassing it first :P
[14:39:28] <zeeshan> there you go that config shows you how to enable :D
[14:39:52] <chuckbob> I would think wiring, but there really is nothing to it
[14:40:13] <zeeshan> its just 2 wires :P
[14:40:18] <chuckbob> on the 7i33, on the 4th "axis" there are only two wires.. drv3 and gnd
[14:41:02] <chuckbob> what daughterboard are you using jthornton
[14:41:02] <zeeshan> i got my aout5 going to vrf2
[14:41:08] <zeeshan> and gnd to com
[14:41:13] <zeeshan> wj200 is very similar to my drive
[14:41:29] <chuckbob> the drive has H,O,OI,L
[14:41:42] <chuckbob> H is the 10vdc reference voltage for a pot, O is the voltage input
[14:41:53] <chuckbob> OI is the current input, and L is the reference ground
[14:42:01] <zeeshan> i know you got the right pins
[14:42:04] <zeeshan> before of your 1.5v battery test
[14:42:09] <chuckbob> right
[14:42:11] <zeeshan> its something from the mesa card
[14:42:14] <zeeshan> or config
[14:42:34] <zeeshan> to eliminate mesa card you gotta manually set your analogoutput voltage for that pin
[14:42:37] <zeeshan> and measure w/ volt meter
[14:42:50] <chuckbob> right, that's the issue now
[14:42:54] <zeeshan> if it's correct, you can eliminate card pinouts, and look into software config
[14:43:12] <chuckbob> let me reboot that computer and not even open linuxcnc
[14:43:24] <chuckbob> never initialize the card
[14:43:32] <zeeshan> according to jt's link for that config
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[14:43:42] <zeeshan> you pretty much gotta write all those lines upto watchdog to enable your card
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[14:45:38] <chuckbob> so, just rebooted, spindle ramps to 400hz
[14:45:46] <zeeshan> lol
[14:45:51] <chuckbob> red lights still on 4i65
[14:45:58] <zeeshan> do it manually! :P
[14:46:10] <chuckbob> that's about where i'm at
[14:46:22] <chuckbob> just with I could remember what made this work
[14:46:30] <chuckbob> I have a 7i48 I could throw at it
[14:46:37] <chuckbob> but takes a bit to rewire from a 7i33 to a 7i48
[14:46:43] <chuckbob> and the rest of the machine is great
[14:47:52] <chuckbob> or, look for a new vfd
[14:48:06] <chuckbob> and machine
[14:48:08] <chuckbob> and computer
[14:48:10] <chuckbob> and life
[14:48:46] <chuckbob> just strange that once connected to the vfd, i get 10 volts on the analog output monitor line
[14:50:21] <zeeshan> nothing wrong with vfd
[14:50:25] <chuckbob> i know
[14:50:29] <zeeshan> it takes a lot to blow one up
[14:50:42] <chuckbob> wish i could remember this resistor issue
[14:50:54] <chuckbob> i had it in a bag of stuff when I moved... can't find it now
[14:51:06] <zeeshan> did you try manually setting the voltage
[14:51:08] <zeeshan> through linuxcnc?
[14:51:21] <chuckbob> where can I do that
[14:51:26] <zeeshan> in halrun
[14:51:44] <chuckbob> lol, can't get halrun to even show the pins
[14:52:49] <zeeshan> http://pastebin.ca/3252665 0 to 11 from this config
[14:53:01] <zeeshan> but replace it with 4i65
[14:53:29] <zeeshan> CONFIG="firmware=hm2/4i65/SVST8_4.BIT num_encoders=0 num_pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=3"
[14:53:31] <zeeshan> for example
[14:53:49] <zeeshan> er i messed up the number of pwmgens
[14:54:02] <chuckbob> yup, got it
[14:54:05] <chuckbob> will return
[14:55:28] <zeeshan> now that i look at it in detail, you only need lines 9 to 11
[14:57:54] <chuckbob> right, i got it all
[14:57:58] <chuckbob> can show the pins
[14:58:11] <zeeshan> nice
[14:58:21] <chuckbob> now what... haha
[14:59:27] <zeeshan> can you type the output on pastebin?
[14:59:30] <zeeshan> or is it a diff comp
[14:59:37] <chuckbob> different comp with no internet
[15:00:43] <zeeshan> which pin is the spindle stuff connected to
[15:00:51] <zeeshan> physically
[15:03:20] <chuckbob> 47 and 48 on the 7i33
[15:04:18] <chuckbob> see.. that's pin 37 to the 4i65
[15:04:21] <chuckbob> pwm3
[15:04:45] <zeeshan> maybe try setting hm2_5i20.0.pwmgen.02.value to like 1.5
[15:04:48] <zeeshan> and see if you get 1.5v output
[15:05:07] <zeeshan> 5i20 being replaced with 4i65 i guess :P
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[15:05:19] <zeeshan> im not sure if it starts at 00
[15:05:23] <zeeshan> or 01, so it could be 02 or 03.
[15:05:40] <chuckbob> should be 3
[15:05:57] <chuckbob> so, just set hm2_4i65.0.pwmgen.03.value 1.5
[15:06:01] <zeeshan> yes
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[15:06:52] <zeeshan> hm2_4i65.0.pwmgen.02.enable should be set to 1
[15:06:58] <zeeshan> so it'll actually be enabled
[15:07:08] <zeeshan> 03 .!!!
[15:09:50] <chuckbob> i enabled it
[15:10:00] <chuckbob> sent the command to set it to type 3
[15:10:04] <chuckbob> set to 1.5
[15:10:07] <chuckbob> got nothing
[15:10:19] <zeeshan> got nothing w/ a volt meter?
[15:10:22] <chuckbob> nothing
[15:10:27] <chuckbob> with a volt meter
[15:11:25] <chuckbob> setp hm2_4i65.0.pwmgen.03.output-type 3
[15:11:35] <chuckbob> setp hm2_5i64.0.pwmgen.03.enable 1
[15:11:48] <chuckbob> ignore the 5i64.. it was right on the other computer
[15:12:09] <chuckbob> and then setp hm2_4i65.pwmgen.03.value 1.5
[15:12:38] <zeeshan> i think output type should be 2
[15:12:58] <chuckbob> i think on the 7i33 it is 3... everything else in that hal is set to 3
[15:13:03] <chuckbob> but I can try it
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[15:15:17] <chuckbob> no change
[15:15:28] <zeeshan> =[
[15:15:53] <archivist> no change to what
[15:16:54] <PetefromTn_> mornin'
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[15:17:22] <chuckbob> didn't change the output at the meter
[15:17:28] <chuckbob> tried setting the pwm value to 5
[15:17:30] <chuckbob> and 9
[15:18:12] <zeeshan> hi pete
[15:18:46] <PetefromTn_> hey zeesh
[15:22:27] <Deejay> hi pete
[15:25:14] <PetefromTn_> Hey Deejay
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[15:29:21] <zeeshan> ·ポンフ°·ア°ーリをSS丁て⼂
[15:29:29] <zeeshan> er
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[15:30:09] <maxcnc> hi all someone seen pcw around today
[15:30:25] <chuckbob> as long as I keep touching that shield wire, I can manipulate the rpm in linuxcnc no problem
[15:30:37] <chuckbob> i'm going to hire my son stand there and hold it
[15:31:49] <maxcnc> chuckbob: then take al ong cabel with you
[15:32:04] <maxcnc> sounds like grounding problem
[15:32:06] <chuckbob> it will give him something to do
[15:32:13] <chuckbob> i know maxcnc
[15:37:37] <archivist> that shows a wiring problem
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[15:45:01] <chuckbob> so.. getting outlandish with troubleshooting
[15:45:19] <chuckbob> with the analog reference wire tied to the vfd chassis, everything works
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[15:52:59] <maxcnc> chuck whats your nativ language
[15:53:42] <chuckbob> english
[15:53:59] <maxcnc> im off F1 qualifying till later hoping that pcw showes up sometime
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[16:01:26] <archivist> so check conductivity of your wiring with the meter
[16:01:57] <archivist> real measurement not look at the wire
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[16:25:31] <chuckbob> I have
[16:26:04] <chuckbob> every wire reads .2-.3 ohms
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[16:34:17] <HSM> Is this wiring ok? https://www.dropbox.com/s/11m411nkrlygxf6/zggg.PNG?dl=0
[16:36:39] <HSM> For retrofit of Voest alpine W570 with indramat ac servo.
[16:37:08] <HSM> *lathe
[16:37:35] <PetefromTn_> I am working on much the same system now... CNC lathe 5i25/7i77 AC servos
[16:38:07] <HSM> what drivesystem?
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[16:40:39] <HSM> Here are some retrofit pictures: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rg3w51rktaauyzv/AADowy_43xdzG0VXtvL4_1QQa?dl=0
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[16:47:07] <HSM> .
[16:48:54] <zeeshan> man optical character recognition
[16:48:57] <zeeshan> is an awesome feature!!!!!!!!!!1
[16:49:08] <PetefromTn_> I am using DMM servos and drives
[16:49:12] <Tom_itx> scan your prints?
[16:49:23] <PetefromTn_> and on my Cincinatti Arrow 500 I used Teco servos and drives
[16:49:28] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: it literally converted al lthe japanese characters in scanned format to text
[16:49:34] <zeeshan> now i can copy and paste it into a translator
[16:49:38] <Tom_itx> haha
[16:49:39] <Tom_itx> cool
[16:49:41] <zeeshan> 電気配線図の構成／使用方法
[16:49:45] <zeeshan> for example i take that now
[16:49:57] <zeeshan> Configuration of an electrical wiring diagram / ​​Usage
[16:50:01] <zeeshan> google gives me that
[16:50:07] <Tom_itx> i think the japanese girl would have been easier
[16:51:35] <HSM> @PeterfromTn, with analog +-10V signal?
[16:51:53] <PetefromTn_> yeah both machines will be analog control
[16:52:12] <PetefromTn_> are
[16:53:11] <HSM> I just need the aout0 and GND for analog signal or?
[16:54:13] <HSM> Is there any problem with electric potential if I wire it like in the picture?
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[16:54:38] <zeeshan> HSM YOUR
[16:54:39] <zeeshan> er
[16:54:47] <zeeshan> hsm you're right, just to aout and gnd
[16:55:04] <HSM> cool
[16:55:45] <HSM> somebody should take pictures like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/11m411nkrlygxf6/zggg.PNG?dl=0
[16:55:52] <PetefromTn_> WOW man just looked at your pictures
[16:56:02] <PetefromTn_> that is a VERY impressive design
[16:56:10] <HSM> in the linuxcnc tutorial for silly people (like me)
[16:56:11] <PetefromTn_> I love your belt drive
[16:57:44] <PetefromTn_> what kind of lathe is that HSM?
[16:57:45] <HSM> thank you! This time I wrote a building story in the german "peters cnc ecke" forum. After the basic retrofit I will write some in the linuxcnc forum
[16:58:05] <zeeshan> hsm
[16:58:05] <zeeshan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/abmmue9j5bwostk/Master%20Wiring%20Diagram.pdf?dl=0
[16:58:06] <PetefromTn_> very very nice
[16:58:15] <HSM> wait, i search a picture
[16:58:25] <zeeshan> maybe my wiring diagram can help answer some of the basic wiring q's
[16:58:44] <HSM> where can I find it?
[16:58:50] <zeeshan> that link
[16:58:50] <PetefromTn_> I love how everything is on the back of the carriage
[16:59:07] <PetefromTn_> or is that the front LOL
[16:59:35] <Tom_itx> i would have made the large pulley housing diameter big enough in case you need to change the belt
[16:59:52] <Tom_itx> doesn't look like there's room to do that
[17:00:05] <PetefromTn_> he left a little place to put your finger ;)
[17:00:16] <HSM> no, it´s the back
[17:00:32] <Tom_itx> the loop around the bottom is what i was talking about
[17:00:34] <PetefromTn_> so thats the headstock to the right in the photo then
[17:00:40] <HSM> there is enough space
[17:00:47] <HSM> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ruu78iedxkzqns/IMG-20150802-WA0012.jpg?dl=0
[17:01:01] <PetefromTn_> looks like eccentric idlers loosen and then just pop the belt out to me man
[17:01:06] <HSM> the machine
[17:01:37] <PetefromTn_> so that is like a 16x60 or something?
[17:01:38] <HSM> i made the parts on dmc1035 https://www.dropbox.com/s/9657qrdgmp3lh5s/Unbenannt11.PNG?dl=0
[17:02:15] <HSM> peter, what do you mean?
[17:02:29] <PetefromTn_> size of the lathe?
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[17:03:13] <zeeshan> cute lathe
[17:03:14] <zeeshan> :D
[17:03:21] <Tom_itx> hah
[17:03:28] <zeeshan> im such a dork
[17:03:28] <zeeshan> haha
[17:03:31] <PetefromTn_> what kind of chuck is that?
[17:03:39] <HSM_> zentra 350mm
[17:03:52] <zeeshan> i checked out that deckel fp50cc the other day
[17:03:54] <HSM_> cheap chuck for only 700€
[17:04:01] <zeeshan> moving that thing across this guys machine shop will be a major pain in the ass
[17:04:05] <zeeshan> theres 6 hbm's in the way
[17:04:09] <zeeshan> no wonder the guy wants 6k
[17:04:14] <zeeshan> he pwoered it up and showed everything worked
[17:04:33] <zeeshan> the machine footprint is 14' x 12' x 10'
[17:04:39] <zeeshan> its a monster
[17:04:43] <archivist> whole garage
[17:04:49] <zeeshan> not for my garage
[17:04:53] <PetefromTn_> HSM looking good man. please post your build on linuxCNC when you get a chance
[17:05:01] <HSM_> i will do
[17:05:18] <PetefromTn_> My machine is a flatbed lathe as well
[17:05:33] <HSM_> no later than i have problems with hal :-)
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[17:06:28] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, table size?
[17:06:36] <Tom_itx> that was a mill you were looking at right?
[17:06:39] <zeeshan> ya
[17:06:44] <HSM_> flatbed is ok but i like slantbed more
[17:06:56] <PetefromTn_> I agree but it is what I have
[17:07:07] <HSM_> dito :-)
[17:07:11] <zeeshan> 1200x600x500 x y z
[17:07:32] <Tom_itx> decent size
[17:07:53] <zeeshan> we're not going to get it unless the guy will move it to his bay door for us to pick up
[17:08:04] <zeeshan> not worth the risk dropping it on one of his hbm's
[17:08:10] <Tom_itx> pita to move?
[17:08:19] <zeeshan> yea cause its at the very back of the machine shop
[17:08:24] <Tom_itx> hah
[17:08:24] <zeeshan> and lots of expensive machines in the way
[17:08:41] <Tom_itx> cut a hole in the wall
[17:08:42] <zeeshan> those machines cant be moved cause theyre built into the foundation
[17:09:05] <Tom_itx> yeah i saw one like that at a shop as they were installing it
[17:09:16] <Tom_itx> several pallet changers with conveyor etc
[17:09:20] <zeeshan> hehe
[17:09:22] <Tom_itx> they never used it to it's potential
[17:09:47] <HSM_> haha, in those days i wanted buy a big mazak flatbed cnc with 30kw spindle but there was only 30cm above the machine to the top of the room...
[17:09:49] <Tom_itx> you could schedule alot of jobs on it
[17:10:02] <zeeshan> lol hsm
[17:10:09] <zeeshan> dude this machine is really cool
[17:10:13] <zeeshan> with 1 g-code
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[17:10:22] <Tom_itx> my bud's first one he had to cut a box in the rafters to fit the z motor
[17:10:22] <zeeshan> it goes from vertical to horizontal spindle
[17:10:27] <zeeshan> imagine the setups you can do with that..
[17:10:39] <Tom_itx> we layed it down to get under the door
[17:10:52] <archivist> a rotary table allows that :)
[17:11:23] <zeeshan> archivist: im thinking more along the lines of hexing the end of a shaft
[17:11:27] <zeeshan> and putting a keyway in it too :D
[17:11:37] <zeeshan> thats 8 feet long
[17:11:47] <archivist> I can do that with 5 axis
[17:11:52] <PetefromTn_> 3
[17:11:53] <Tom_itx> who needs an 8' keyway?
[17:11:58] <archivist> on short bits
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[17:12:17] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: shaft is 8 ft long
[17:12:22] <archivist> Tom_itx, on a planer
[17:12:31] <Tom_itx> yeah i suppose
[17:12:37] <Sync> HSM_: why don't you come back to the stmbl channel ;)
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[17:12:57] <HSM_> Busted :D
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[17:13:14] <Tom_itx> no we haven't seen PCW
[17:13:38] <maxcnc> ;-) logs read the same
[17:13:54] <Sync> HSM_: you can try to hide :P
[17:13:54] <maxcnc> Tom what python is requierd for 2.7
[17:14:04] <magnifikus> am i stupid? i only see position-cmd going into step-gen
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[17:14:12] <magnifikus> but nothing about velocity
[17:14:23] <Sync> I also need to visit you at some point :P
[17:14:30] <HSM_> sorry, i think my knowledge of stmbl issues are to bad...
[17:15:19] <Sync> so what?
[17:15:35] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_
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[17:15:57] <Sync> or rather, what do you mean?
[17:16:01] <HSM_> i don´t want to trouble with some non stmbl shit
[17:16:09] <HSM_> *you
[17:16:35] <Sync> haha, that's no problem at all
[17:17:19] <Sync> one thing I wanted to tell you, if you try to make your own car, start with a power plant that at least achieves euro3
[17:17:25] <Sync> otherwise you will have a hard time
[17:17:44] <HSM_> yes i know :-)
[17:17:47] <HSM_> vw style
[17:17:48] <Jymmm> euro3?
[17:17:49] <HSM_> :D
[17:18:29] <Sync> currently that's a huge issue for the super 7 builders
[17:19:00] <HSM_> Jymm, exhaust gases rule in germany
[17:19:00] <Sync> so most of them are either buying frames with a COC and an s2000 powerplant
[17:19:12] <Sync> or get old vin plates out of old frames
[17:19:16] <Sync> or buy old frames :D
[17:19:29] <HSM_> yes
[17:20:28] <Sync> a few years ago, it did not matter at all
[17:20:56] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKYfqMhb6NU
[17:20:59] <zeeshan> how the atc
[17:21:04] <zeeshan> and vertical/horizontal spindle work
[17:21:06] <zeeshan> on the deckel
[17:21:13] <zeeshan> so fucking cool
[17:21:20] <zeeshan> specifically at 1min into vidfeo
[17:21:54] <HSM_> very cool and very easy to fail
[17:22:02] <HSM_> (for retrofit)
[17:22:09] <zeeshan> its a deckel!
[17:22:09] <zeeshan> :D
[17:22:49] <maxcnc> the maho500e is best for retrofit as the mesa 7i77 fits perfect just wirering and config load and up you go
[17:22:50] <HSM_> because.
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[17:23:24] <zeeshan> maxcnc: reflecting back to my conversion
[17:23:26] <zeeshan> it was pretty easy!
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[17:26:22] <HSM_> yesterday i bought schunk pgn 240 pneumatic gripper on my way home
[17:26:37] <PetefromTn_> pics?
[17:26:47] <HSM_> has anyone use this as pneumatic chuck?
[17:27:02] <HSM_> (8000N force)
[17:27:10] <HSM_> i have a video , wait
[17:28:18] <HSM_> a friend said i should built a nutcracker with that...
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[17:30:14] <HSM_> looks like this: http://www.airoil.com/uploads/assets/product_images/schunk-schunk_2_jaw_grippers.jpg
[17:33:11] <Sync> yeah those are cool
[17:33:27] <HSM_> Most expensive nutcracker ever: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd6hqcw8e6iy1s2/20151113_142033.mp4?dl=0
[17:34:51] <Sync> probably not more expensive than our carousel
[17:35:13] <HSM_> haha
[17:35:43] <Sync> http://sync-hv.de/~tmp/lehmann.jpg used that thing to spin persons
[17:36:05] <HSM_> yeah, why not?
[17:36:17] <Sync> 600Nm output torque :D
[17:36:25] <HSM_> harmonic drive?
[17:36:44] <Sync> nah
[17:37:05] <Sync> it is a preloaded worm gear of some sort
[17:37:16] <HSM_> ok
[17:37:35] <Sync> from what I can tell, it is backlash free
[17:37:43] <Sync> but I have not found it on the lehmann site
[17:37:48] <Sync> they have two kinds
[17:38:00] <Sync> one with two worm gears with springs
[17:38:09] <Sync> and sone with some kind of camming device preloading them
[17:39:10] <HSM_> lehmann tables look like the dmg tables
[17:39:38] <Sync> I think they are the oem for them
[17:39:53] <HSM_> ok
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[17:40:03] <R2E4> mornion
[17:40:30] <Sync> but as I said, at some point I need to visit you :P
[17:40:57] <Sync> I need some ideas on how to make composite drive shafts
[17:41:18] <HSM_> no problem, i am here
[17:42:45] <HSM_> i can send you carbon prepreg for that
[17:44:03] <HSM_> just roll it in 45° on grinded tube and take it in oven @ 220°C
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[17:45:25] <HSM_> hi rene
[17:45:47] <HSM_> hsm - faserwickelmaschine
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[17:46:23] <maxcnc> carbon
[17:46:34] <maxcnc> Hsn german
[17:47:37] <Sync> that sounds simple enough
[17:47:57] <Sync> but yeah, 45° sounds reasonable as the angle
[17:48:14] <Sync> I'm not really sure on how to calculate the optimum angle
[17:48:23] <Sync> I guess there are some clever rules of thumb for that
[17:49:21] <HSM_> i had calculate it with hyperworks hypermesh optistruct
[17:49:40] <HSM_> in fem with fibre direction
[17:49:45] <magnifikus> so if hal stepgen gets a permanent updated position-cmd
[17:50:00] <magnifikus> wouldnt that mean that a driver would permanently accel and deccel?
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[17:51:09] <maxcnc> ansys is also realy good on fibe
[17:51:52] <maxcnc> magnifikus: gow shoudt it get that signal
[17:51:59] <HSM_> yeah but altair was our sponsor
[17:52:09] <maxcnc> as it comes from the stepgen on dist calc
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[17:53:22] <magnifikus> ah from servothread timespan and distance
[17:53:31] <magnifikus> i can calculate the speed needed
[17:53:58] <magnifikus> so position-cmd is wished position after next cycle?
[17:54:09] <Sync> I'd have guessed 45° as it should provide equal strength in both torque directions
[17:54:22] <Sync> but I have no real experience with composite tube
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[17:56:28] <HSM_> yes, in our case we need equal strength because of the motor lassitude
[17:56:33] <maxcnc> sometimes a lower angel gives mor flexebility with same stiffness
[17:57:26] <maxcnc> someone Knows what python version is on the 2.7 lucid cd
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[17:58:01] <HSM_> it´s depending on the loadcases, free space, external forces
[17:59:21] <maxcnc> HSM_: http://www.ivw.uni-kl.de/
[17:59:38] <maxcnc> thats where i used to work
[18:00:23] <Sync> I just need drive shafts that are lighter than the steel ones :P
[18:00:24] <maxcnc> lots and lots of tests and even more experiences
[18:00:42] <HSM_> that´s easy
[18:01:30] <HSM_> why you don´t use aluminium shafts?
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[18:02:44] <maxcnc> Corming here making this drive shafts
[18:03:15] <HSM_> This is what a made for our racecar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l24kgp7rbk1a3xo/IMG_9914.jpg?dl=0
[18:03:16] <Sync> because I'd have to get aluminium ones made
[18:04:01] <Sync> and I think making composite ones is easier
[18:04:04] <PetefromTn_> WOAH that is a beaty
[18:04:08] <HSM_> kaiserlautern is too far away
[18:04:25] <PetefromTn_> beauty
[18:04:34] <Sync> although I could probably use adhesives on the alu ones as well
[18:04:44] <HSM_> yes, easy
[18:05:32] <HSM_> drag race shafts often just push together
[18:06:02] <Sync> my application is stage rally
[18:06:04] <HSM_> *pressed together
[18:06:55] <HSM_> stage rally?
[18:07:11] <HSM_> ...ah ok
[18:07:23] <HSM_> normal rally
[18:07:34] <Sync> basically
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[18:11:11] <HSM_> use grinded h6 round steel, formula five coat and some fiber. 1,3mm thickness in 45° with 5000Mpa fiber and 30mm inner diameter. It breaks at 350Nm. You can enforce it easy. This isn´t rocket science :D
[18:11:29] <HSM_> fiber volume around 55%
[18:12:17] <Sync> do you press the former out?
[18:12:23] <Sync> (obviously)
[18:12:33] <HSM_> yes
[18:13:23] <HSM_> by cooling down, the tube expands and the steel scaled down.
[18:13:42] <zeeshan> nice driveshaft
[18:13:44] <HSM_> In heavy winter it´s easy :D
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[18:13:49] <HSM_> tank you
[18:14:54] <Sync> yeah, I have a freezer, cooling it is not a problem
[18:15:10] <zeeshan> i dont like aluminum for fatigu areas
[18:15:20] <zeeshan> since it doesnt have an endurance limit
[18:15:21] <Sync> hm, 350Nm no idea how high my torque peaks are
[18:16:33] <Sync> and I have to build a filament winder
[18:16:45] <HSM_> The torque is no problem. Real problems are idiots who damage this shaft by drop down tooling.
[18:17:27] <Sync> or stones flying around
[18:17:29] <HSM_> Because of spotty damage on the cfk surface
[18:17:47] <HSM_> yaeh... aramid could save the problem
[18:17:48] <zeeshan> how about enclosing the cf tube
[18:17:54] <zeeshan> with like 0.004" steel
[18:17:58] <zeeshan> or titanium
[18:18:15] <zeeshan> adds a bit of weight but should protect it from those sorts of damages?
[18:18:52] <HSM_> would be a possibility
[18:19:02] <zeeshan> drill a shit load of holes all around it
[18:19:11] <zeeshan> so you can still see some cf for rice factor
[18:19:12] <zeeshan> :D
[18:19:14] <zeeshan> jk
[18:19:26] <HSM_> ...
[18:19:29] <Sync> yeah a protective tube would probably work
[18:19:46] <PetefromTn_> what sort of pivot bearings are in the shaft?
[18:20:05] <HSM_> in military they just wound some aramid on it.
[18:20:31] <HSM_> igus high load plastic bearing
[18:20:59] <PetefromTn_> wow
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[18:21:10] <HSM_> we exchange them after 50km
[18:21:20] <FAalbers> Hello
[18:21:24] <HSM_> every 50km
[18:21:27] <HSM_> hi
[18:21:38] <Sync> sounds reasonable
[18:24:39] <HSM_> should i buy the sauter 8 tool turret for my lathe?
[18:26:08] <HSM_> i am a little afraid of the linuxcnc programming. But nothing is impossible
[18:26:48] <PetefromTn_> which one are you considering?
[18:27:24] <HSM_> like this one: http://cdn04.trixum.de/upload2/47400/47277/5/593b926320e1c4197d084e727f3dde22e.jpg
[18:27:39] <HSM_> with 240mm plate
[18:27:44] <HSM_> vdi40
[18:28:03] <HSM_> my maximum turning diameter is 580mm
[18:28:10] <PetefromTn_> Nice that Is also what I am looking to for future on my lathe
[18:28:50] <Sync> why not HSM_
[18:29:35] <HSM_> because of the programing and the weight of 120kg
[18:30:35] <Sync> programming should work, somehow
[18:30:40] <Sync> the weight is more of an issue
[18:31:29] <FAalbers> So , I ordered a Dell Optiplex 745 that has a parallell port on the CPU board. Installed linuxcnc . I look at /procs/ioports and I get 0378-037a:parport0 . But in my HAL Confuguration Screen I don't see 'parport' under 'Pins' !!
[18:31:54] <FAalbers> How can I make sure I can communicate to the parallel port in linuxcnc ?
[18:38:07] <HSM_> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/49-basic-configuration/19959-parport-test-problem
[18:38:58] <FAalbers> Thanks HSM_ Will read up on that
[18:38:59] <HSM_> Perhaps you find some information here. I haven´t any idea...
[18:39:35] <HSM_> arr bigJs tester is down...
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[18:42:07] <FAalbers> HSM_, All links don't work and my parallel board is on the CPU board, not a PCI cars
[18:42:11] <FAalbers> card
[18:42:33] <HSM_> hm
[18:43:31] <HSM_> What is when you use stepconf / pncconf and add the parport?
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[18:44:53] <duc> Afternoon all
[18:45:57] <HSM_> good evening!
[18:46:46] <PetefromTn_> hi
[18:46:48] <duc> Which country
[18:47:24] <duc> Got my servos in and they are about 1/3 the size of the old Bridgeport steppers
[18:47:48] <HSM_> ac servos?
[18:47:54] <duc> Yea
[18:48:05] <HSM_> no wonder :-)
[18:48:15] <HSM_> (about the size)
[18:48:27] <HSM_> picture?
[18:50:49] <HSM_> which brand? with which mesa card?
[18:51:13] <FAalbers> HSM_ I checked my BIOS and port was set to PS/2 instead of EPP. I changed it , will now check again. then I'll check stepconf and pnconf
[18:51:50] <HSM_> okay good luck!
[18:55:37] <duc> Uploading now
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[18:58:10] <duc> http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd465/shefron/Machinery/20151114_125519_zpsoovgkgpa.jpg
[18:58:31] <duc> http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd465/shefron/Machinery/20151114_125508_zpss4gp1yrg.jpg
[18:58:55] <duc> Yaskawa 750 watt servos. Going with 7i77 card once I'm ready
[18:59:26] <HSM_> tiny :)
[18:59:56] <zeeshan> cute servo
[18:59:59] <duc> Yea
[19:00:01] <HSM_> be careful with the pulley.
[19:00:13] <duc> Whys that
[19:01:19] <PetefromTn_> zeeshan yeah man we know you bought a mammoth lathe but you can't technically start with all the "Cute" comments until your machine actually runs!! ;)
[19:02:05] <chris_99> heh
[19:02:33] <zeeshan> hsm started it this time
[19:02:34] <zeeshan> not me!
[19:02:46] <HSM_> the axis in the picture with the vertical motor seems a little short. Don´t take the pulley on the edge because of the bearing load
[19:03:16] <HSM_> ^^ my lathe is tiny...
[19:03:20] <maxcnc> duc nice yaskawa is best choice
[19:03:27] <zeeshan> my mikron is cute
[19:03:39] <zeeshan> at full ipm it tickles me just right
[19:03:47] <zeeshan> tmi
[19:03:54] <PetefromTn_> whats that 30? ;)
[19:03:55] <maxcnc> im off for today
[19:04:00] <maxcnc> Gn8
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[19:04:57] <duc> Maxcnc thanks
[19:05:29] <duc> Hsm_ I made some pulley adapters and should be in side load range for these motors
[19:06:19] <HSM_> ok
[19:06:39] <duc> The motors have a 19mm shaft
[19:12:29] <HSM_> i like "com" pulley clamp for this
[19:12:40] <duc> Uh?
[19:13:24] <HSM_> https://www.maedler.de/product/1643/1621/spannsaetze-com-b-bohrung-6-bis-100mm
[19:13:52] <Sync> yeah they are good
[19:14:00] <HSM_> works perfect and is cheap (12€/psc)
[19:15:55] <HSM_> by the way, this is cool: http://s1221.photobucket.com/user/shefron/media/Machinery/Gangtooling_zps25c1d48e.jpg.html
[19:16:02] <HSM_> from duc
[19:17:15] <PetefromTn_> mill2lathe
[19:17:40] <duc> Yea that's the next project
[19:17:58] <HSM_> is it already yours?
[19:18:18] <duc> Nah going to build the block to hold the lathe tools
[19:18:27] <duc> I do own the mill thou
[19:18:49] <HSM_> ok
[19:19:17] <HSM_> i like gang tooling
[19:19:24] <HSM_> fast and simple
[19:19:53] <duc> Yes it is and I do have a document someone types up for doing the offsets in Mastercam for it
[19:21:32] <duc> I can't have a cnc lathe yet but I can ghetto fab one
[19:21:47] <HSM_> ghetto fab :-)
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[19:23:52] <HSM_> anyone use 11µAss glass scale with exe sinus to ttl converter ?
[19:24:52] <HSM_> i have 3 axis heidenhain sinus glass scales but can´t use them without the converter
[19:25:07] <HSM_> the converter cost about 250€ each axis
[19:25:14] <zeeshan> no it doesnt :P
[19:25:15] <duc> Ouch
[19:25:31] <zeeshan> look up idp101
[19:26:02] <HSM_> ia can buy ne scales for 300, 400 and 800€ (different length)
[19:27:09] <HSM_> idp101 is cool and cheap
[19:27:30] <HSM_> but there is only one seller on ebay us
[19:27:48] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Heidenhain-Encoder-PCB-262417-IDP101-/281387324911
[19:27:49] <zeeshan> that one?
[19:27:57] <HSM_> yes
[19:28:45] <HSM_> i have hh LBS 326
[19:29:10] <HSM_> ...ouch i just nee two, because of cnc
[19:29:16] <HSM_> *need
[19:29:38] <zeeshan> http://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7410/16272562198_782fb5eaab_b.jpg
[19:29:41] <zeeshan> they are tiny cards
[19:29:46] <zeeshan> i stacked them with standoofs in between
[19:30:56] <HSM_> works fine?
[19:31:01] <zeeshan> yes
[19:31:05] <HSM_> nice
[19:33:06] <HSM_> first i will test it without glass scales. But it would be a very good feature for the x-axis (because of diameter tolerance)
[19:33:15] <zeeshan> glass scales are a really good idea
[19:33:21] <zeeshan> cause they're not affected by backlash
[19:33:24] <zeeshan> i loveeeeeeee them!
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[19:33:30] <zeeshan> only thing crappy about them is response time
[19:33:34] <zeeshan> i think youre limited to 400 ipm
[19:33:36] <zeeshan> or 500ipm
[19:34:09] <HSM_> hm
[19:34:20] <HSM_> because of the converter?
[19:35:20] <zeeshan> no i think it's something to do w/ the actual sin cos signal
[19:35:25] <zeeshan> getting distorted
[19:35:43] <HSM_> ok
[19:36:36] <HSM_> interesting.
[19:40:48] <duc> Now I wish I would have purchased some wiring trays
[19:41:07] <Jymmm> PANDUIT!!!
[19:41:12] <HSM_> wiring weekend?
[19:42:22] <duc> Trying to mount servopacks and wire power to them
[19:42:46] <FAalbers> HSM_, Port is working ! :)
[19:43:04] <HSM_> duc: me too
[19:43:09] <HSM_> niceee
[19:43:42] <HSM_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xn5fin5cilhtsby/20151113_202803.jpg?dl=0
[19:44:03] <HSM_> wiring from yesterday
[19:44:41] <duc> Nice. Very clean
[19:44:43] <FAalbers> So , I got the 3040T-DJ router , what should I do to set it up with linuxcnc and have a few axis move around a bit to test ? If it's too much asked , maybe a easy get started link ? :)
[19:45:24] <duc> I had a bright idea for marking hole location. Position servopacks on paper. Mark and then transfer. Duh
[19:46:45] <HSM_> @ Faalber, install linuxcnc 7.2, connect your 4 axis card??? to your computer, read the manuel for pin order, open stepconf and config it
[19:46:51] <HSM_> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/30-cnc-machines/26681-6040-china-cnc-my-setup
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[19:52:48] <zeeshan> 黒
[19:52:56] <zeeshan> looks like a robot to me
[19:52:57] <zeeshan> not a color..
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[19:53:49] <HSM_> zeeshan, ?!?
[19:53:53] <HSM_> black
[19:54:00] <zeeshan> hsm you speak japanese?
[19:54:14] <Jymmm> zeeshan: I do
[19:54:14] <HSM_> nee, i know how google works
[19:54:16] <zeeshan> haha
[19:54:24] <zeeshan> ive been doing that for a while now
[19:54:28] <zeeshan> but its getting tedious.. :P
[19:54:30] <Jymmm> zeeshan: Toyota... Nissan...
[19:54:52] <HSM_> honda honda ducati?
[19:54:55] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/IKCcWuk.png
[19:54:57] <HSM_> :-)
[19:54:58] <zeeshan> doesnt work that well to convert that
[19:55:01] <Jymmm> Long but kinda cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bg3Ct6OwtY
[19:55:39] <Jymmm> zeeshan: google translate app could
[19:55:40] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/KFaeN3v.png
[19:55:44] <zeeshan> ive done that already
[19:55:47] <HSM_> zeeshan, do you bought a import chinese machine? :-)
[19:55:49] <zeeshan> Jymmm: it doesnt output right
[19:55:55] <zeeshan> hsm this is not chinese
[19:55:56] <zeeshan> its japanese
[19:55:59] <Jymmm> zeeshan: section by section
[19:56:06] <zeeshan> Jymmm: what do you think im doing? :p
[19:56:17] <Jymmm> zeeshan: fucking off as usual =)
[19:56:39] <HSM_> hehehe
[19:56:54] <Jymmm> zeeshan: I'm surprised you're not blind yet =)
[19:57:30] <HSM_> i like the indramat manuel with 400 pages of mother tonque
[20:00:21] <FAalbers> HSM_, Thanks ... will do !
[20:01:30] <HSM_> i hope the manual isn´t chinese
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[20:55:51] <FAalbers> HSM_, Thanks for your help ! Got it to work !! :)
[20:56:01] <HSM_> cool
[20:56:23] <HSM_> just linuxcnc or the whole router?
[20:58:27] <FAalbers> HSM_, How do you move it back home ? Don't see a button for that
[20:59:01] <FAalbers> HSM_, I made linuxcnc run the LINUXCNC logo without carving
[20:59:19] <HSM_> okay
[20:59:28] <HSM_> is there "home all"?
[20:59:32] <FAalbers> HSM_, Just tried out axis x,y,z
[20:59:56] <FAalbers> HSM_, I don't see a Home All button
[21:00:06] <HSM_> do you have connect the end switches?
[21:00:40] <HSM_> or reference switches?
[21:01:52] <FAalbers> HSM_, I have no end switches. It's a cheap Chinese desktop without home switches
[21:02:40] <HSM_> is the home all button just grey or not there?
[21:03:03] <FAalbers> HSM_, I don't see one , where is it sopposed to be ?
[21:03:21] <HSM_> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/axisubuntu.png
[21:03:29] <HSM_> left, top
[21:03:35] <FAalbers> HSM_, Maybe it doesn't show when not using then. I had to deactivate them in stepcnf
[21:04:18] <HSM_> on my fiber winding machine i also have no switches and i must home every axis alone
[21:04:53] <HSM_> sometimes you can´t home all axis together without switches
[21:05:19] <FAalbers> HSM_, You mean the 'Home' button in the Manual Control/Axis section ?
[21:05:33] <HSM_> ähm
[21:05:46] <HSM_> can you make a screenshot?
[21:06:24] <FAalbers> HSM_ That one makes the current position of the axis home, it does not move home. And with me it sais 'Home Axis' , not just 'Home'
[21:06:43] <HSM_> yes, this is okay.
[21:07:12] <HSM_> you can´t go home without switches and a stepper system
[21:07:38] <HSM_> why the axis should know their homing position?
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[21:08:40] <HSM_> one idea: drive every axis against the end. To crash the stepper into the end of the linear rails
[21:08:45] <HSM_> and then push home
[21:08:56] <FAalbers> Well, I pit the axis to a certain position I felt is home , then pushed 'Home Axis' . That made that position home on the current project. When it was done , it did not go back to that home position
[21:09:08] <HSM_> the "crash" isn´t bad, because of the little steppers
[21:09:36] <XXCoder> heys
[21:09:40] <HSM_> after milling job?
[21:09:44] <HSM_> hi
[21:10:10] <FAalbers> HSM_, Yes , well , without using the spindle . I just let it route the trajectory
[21:10:14] <XXCoder> wouldnt "crashes" cause steppers to jam and evenually wear down>?
[21:10:22] <Sync> HSM_: called hardstop homing
[21:10:30] <HSM_> yes :-)
[21:10:50] <FAalbers> HSM_ After it was done routing the path , it did not go back to home
[21:11:33] <HSM_> this is normal, there are two ways to make it happen:
[21:11:52] <HSM_> write the homing coordinates in the midi panel and enter it
[21:12:39] <HSM_> or edit the postprocessor that the mill go to home after job
[21:12:53] <Sync> XXCoder: unlikely
[21:13:11] <XXCoder> ok
[21:13:43] <FAalbers> HSM_, I see , what is the MDI command ? x = 0 ?
[21:13:47] <FAalbers> y = 0?
[21:14:04] <HSM_> yes, G1 x0 y0 z0 F200
[21:14:10] <HSM_> as example
[21:14:18] <FAalbers> HSM_, what is f200 ?
[21:14:20] <renesis> i dont think = happens in gcode other than for some non-standard variable processing shit
[21:14:43] <HSM_> f200 means 200mm/min feed speed
[21:14:45] <XXCoder> feed rate of 200. dunno if mm/s or ipm
[21:14:55] <HSM_> ...yes
[21:15:05] <XXCoder> mm/m that is
[21:15:06] <renesis> G1 x0 y0 z0 F200 is kind of nuts for an end of cycle home
[21:15:26] <FAalbers> HSM_, OK , It does work , that's what I was trying to find out today. I'll now start reading the manual instyead of bothering everyone here ! :) I think that is a better approach :)
[21:15:30] <XXCoder> renesis: yeah I definitely do NOT recommand all 3 axes at once!
[21:15:32] <renesis> also it will go to workspace origin, not home
[21:15:36] <XXCoder> Z first then x,y
[21:15:52] <renesis> G53 G0 Z0
[21:15:55] <HSM_> ...yes that will be better
[21:15:58] <renesis> G53 G0 X0 Y0
[21:16:14] <FAalbers> HSM_, I really appreciate the help ! Will come vback if I meet more stumbling blocks ! :) Thanks a bunch !
[21:16:27] <renesis> G53 is a non modal command to translate in machine/home space
[21:16:41] <renesis> pretty sure its non modal, has to be specified every line
[21:17:13] <XXCoder> oh geez thats too fast for old fadal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3AqIZURMbI
[21:17:30] <renesis> f200?
[21:17:40] <XXCoder> no idea on speed
[21:17:43] <HSM_> sure
[21:17:44] <XXCoder> not my video
[21:17:48] <Sync> sounds okay
[21:17:59] <HSM_> this video isn´t cool
[21:18:05] <Sync> the only thing is that the strategy will wear the screws
[21:18:21] <HSM_> toooo slow
[21:18:27] <Sync> and shitty code
[21:18:32] <Sync> lots of air moves
[21:18:43] <renesis> so regular cam code?
[21:19:20] <XXCoder> I run fadal at work and I can tell you... its not that precise
[21:19:27] <XXCoder> kickback is pretty back
[21:19:28] <XXCoder> bad
[21:19:47] <renesis> how old is it?
[21:19:56] <Sync> then the machine is broken
[21:19:57] <XXCoder> one I run is made in 1988
[21:19:58] <renesis> the fadal
[21:20:04] <renesis> neat
[21:20:30] <renesis> i toured their factory right before china castings put them out of business, was a neat place
[21:20:37] <XXCoder> the model 88 lasted quite a while though
[21:21:33] <XXCoder> FAalbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWOAAyN3btc this is what happens if you do all 3 axis move to zero
[21:21:44] <HSM_> :D
[21:22:38] <HSM_> i like this video: https://youtu.be/RZB8W81ae_g?t=56s
[21:23:24] <FAalbers> Hah ! ouch
[21:24:02] <XXCoder> yeah
[21:37:26] <HSM_> i know it´s a neebie question... what are the steps to configure a new 5i25/6i25 with 7i77 and analog servos ?
[21:39:59] <HSM_> i must flash the firmware to 5i25+one 7i77
[21:40:30] <PetefromTn_> yeah you can get the firmware update on the linuxCNC forum at least that is where I got it.
[21:41:17] <HSM_> do i need a firmware update?
[21:41:44] <XXCoder> HSM_: heh yeah thats why always z first, and enough to clear supports lol
[21:42:59] <duc> I need to kick myself for accidently buying solidwire for the power on the servopacks
[21:43:55] <HSM_> duc, yeah...
[21:43:57] <HSM_> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/27-driver-boards/29426-mesa-6i25-7i77-firmware-update#60689
[21:44:10] <HSM_> i think this is what i should do
[21:44:29] <HSM_> solidwire 6mm² is nice...
[21:44:43] <duc> Errrr. To use or not. It's 12ga wire
[21:46:57] <HSM_> if you where in my city I would give you my wire
[21:47:31] <duc> I can drive back to the store when I go to eat
[21:47:40] <duc> Just pissed I missed it
[21:47:47] <duc> Thanks thou
[21:49:00] <HSM_> i also missed some parts, like green yello wire ore relays or switches....this slows down the whole project...
[21:50:18] <renesis> duc: do not use, solidcore sucks at vibration
[21:52:21] <duc> I want to but I will resist and just go back to home depot
[21:53:40] <duc> I have 10ga but it won't fit in connector
[22:07:20] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:29:20] <HSM_> good night!
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