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[00:00:04] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: im thinking if i help him out
[00:00:09] <zeeshan> the long term relationship will be worth it
[00:00:12] <zeeshan> (ie not charge money)
[00:00:16] <Sync> probably
[00:00:23] <Sync> it should be fairly uninvolved
[00:00:32] <zeeshan> its very similar to my machine
[00:00:34] <zeeshan> just bigger
[00:00:46] <Sync> they iirc have dc servos or early ac servos with analog velocity setpoints
[00:00:47] <PetefromTn_> really? its a toolchanger equipped horiz/vert CNC mill...
[00:00:59] <zeeshan> yes, but control wise
[00:01:00] <zeeshan> its very similar
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[00:01:17] <zeeshan> i might put a clause, that if he decides to sell the machine
[00:01:24] <zeeshan> i get a certain amount
[00:01:39] <zeeshan> but as long as he owns it for at least 4 years
[00:01:42] <zeeshan> its al ok
[00:01:43] <zeeshan> *all
[00:02:14] <PetefromTn_> well thats up to you. you are better at this stuff than I am. For me it would equal a great deal of my personal time to do it.
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[00:02:23] <zeeshan> sync this one comes w/ ac servos
[00:02:33] <zeeshan> and it's going to a place w/ 3 phase
[00:02:34] <Sync> yeah, depends on the build date
[00:02:36] <zeeshan> so the conversion should be very easy
[00:03:02] <Sync> ye, to at least get it moving and machining stuff
[00:03:09] <Sync> getting the atc running might be annoying, but eh
[00:03:17] <zeeshan> not priority :D
[00:04:37] <zeeshan> http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n104/Deckel_Fan/Deckel%20FP%2050UC/DSC00901.jpg
[00:04:42] <zeeshan> the scary part :P
[00:07:40] <zeeshan> http://www.dialog5.com/Documentation/Dialog11Bild.jpg
[00:07:54] <zeeshan> linuxcnc plz make axis output colorful tool paths!! :D
[00:08:08] <PetefromTn_> it already does?
[00:08:12] <zeeshan> no
[00:08:24] <PetefromTn_> it does on mine
[00:08:27] <zeeshan> just differentiates between g0 and regular moves
[00:08:29] <zeeshan> blue line
[00:08:31] <zeeshan> and some other thing
[00:08:50] <Sync> you could just keep the dialog11
[00:08:53] <Sync> it is not too shitty
[00:08:58] <zeeshan> f that
[00:09:03] <zeeshan> linxucnc baby
[00:13:53] <zeeshan> does anyone make mill macros
[00:13:55] <zeeshan> for linuxcnc
[00:13:59] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, is that deckel DOA?
[00:13:59] <zeeshan> other than tormach
[00:14:05] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: not sure, seeing it tommo
[00:14:35] <Tom_itx> doesn't look all that old
[00:14:36] <Sync> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/MartinPeitz/HappyCamSS1.jpg aaw
[00:14:41] <zeeshan> i think its 1995r
[00:14:41] <Sync> that small happy computer
[00:14:43] <zeeshan> we'll see
[00:14:55] <zeeshan> haha sync
[00:15:03] <zeeshan> i love dos
[00:15:05] <zeeshan> !!!!!!!!!
[00:15:57] <Tom_itx> was easy to program in
[00:17:44] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, what sort of macros?
[00:17:56] <zeeshan> facing, circle milling
[00:17:59] <zeeshan> drilling
[00:18:01] <zeeshan> tapping
[00:18:02] <Tom_itx> jt has some
[00:18:31] <Tom_itx> there's some add on tabs but i forget what they all do, i've not used them
[00:18:32] <jdh> there is taht axis add-on that does that
[00:18:39] <zeeshan> which one
[00:18:39] <Tom_itx> ^^
[00:18:44] <Tom_itx> hang on
[00:18:50] <zeeshan> thank u
[00:20:16] <Tom_itx> ngcgui
[00:20:19] <jdh> yeah
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[00:20:47] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/ngcgui.html
[00:22:25] * zeeshan sees no circle mill!
[00:22:27] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/ngcgui.html#_demonstration_configurations
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[00:25:54] <Tom_itx> http://gnipsel.com/files/mill-g-code/
[00:26:42] <zeeshan> nice!
[00:26:53] <zeeshan> exactly what im looking for
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[00:41:30] <zeeshan> i cant believe how much a full time job drains you :P
[00:43:55] <Tom_itx> which one?
[00:44:05] <Tom_itx> your day one or your night one?
[00:44:11] <zeeshan> day
[00:46:54] <Tom_itx> been trying to figure out what i have that will still run on this 64bit install
[00:48:36] <jdh> having to work pretty much blows
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[00:48:53] <zeeshan> jdh seems like it :p
[00:50:51] <duc> I'm a little tea pot ....
[00:51:25] <jdh> I did a little bit of everything today so it was at least somewhat interesting.
[00:51:51] <zeeshan> i would be interested
[00:51:57] <zeeshan> if i could do fea and stress analysis all day long
[00:52:31] <PetefromTn_> I kinda dig my day part time job so I don't feel like that too often but I know what you mean for sure
[00:53:04] <jdh> and I'm taking tomorrow off (and all remaining fridays)
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[00:53:18] <zeeshan> how many weeks of vacation do you get jdh
[00:53:27] <jdh> 4
[00:53:36] <PetefromTn_> nice perpetual 3 day weekends
[00:53:37] <jdh> I still have 14 days left though
[00:53:47] <zeeshan> gotta use em in a year?
[00:53:51] <jdh> yep
[00:54:00] <jdh> I put off trips 3 times for a project
[00:54:09] <PetefromTn_> when I worked in the woodshops we usually worked 4-10 hours shifts so we always had 3 day weekends
[00:55:50] <PetefromTn_> Damn someone posted a nice parting off tool but I already spent a bunch of money this week :(
[00:56:40] <jdh> today I did, C, fortran, VB, ladder, some compumotor code, helium plumbing, solenoid wiring and mounting
[00:57:18] <PetefromTn_> today I bought a new boomstick ;)
[00:57:31] <jdh> what did you get?
[00:57:41] <PetefromTn_> Rem 870 express tactical
[00:57:51] <zeeshan> nice jdh
[00:57:53] <zeeshan> are you a systems eng
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[00:58:14] <jdh> I don't know what a systems eng is
[00:58:17] <jdh> but, maybe I am.
[00:58:18] <zeeshan> i applied to a job for one
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[00:59:43] <zeeshan> https://grantek.secure.force.com/careers/VanaHCM__Job_Detail?Id=a1U70000001tTMQEA2
[00:59:49] <zeeshan> that is what the description was
[01:00:28] <jdh> I do all that
[01:01:06] <Tom_itx> even the having fun part?
[01:01:12] <Sync> *Completing documentation, including project engineering notes, proposal writing, case studies, and more
[01:01:15] <Sync> fuk dis
[01:01:17] <jdh> that part sucks
[01:02:10] <jdh> I'm in the middle of commisioning a new machine. Docs will take longer than anything
[01:02:47] <jdh> that, and I inherited another job on top of mine.
[01:05:39] <duc> Are the having you write SOP for am/pm, work instructions yet for the machine
[01:06:03] <jdh> I can copy most of the procedure from a similar machine
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[01:06:54] <duc> Lucky man. I've been trying to commission a robotic polisher this week. I hate paperwork
[01:06:59] <jdh> we had a tech writer that would have done it but he left a few weeks ago
[01:07:10] <jdh> what does it polish?
[01:08:02] <jdh> the solenoid and 4 rungs of ladder should save about $50-60k/year
[01:08:04] <duc> Receivers. Pretty cool system. Fanuc robot but need to write work instructions for a normal person
[01:10:05] <duc> I wish we had a tech writer. Let me design fixtures and automation stuff. I think I'm taking on a machining project also next week. Fml
[01:12:54] <duc> Jdh What type of machine are you working on
[01:13:42] <jdh> automated welder + inspection
[01:15:43] <duc> Tig or mig?
[01:16:04] <jdh> some tig, some resistance
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[01:18:02] <duc> How are you going to inspect?
[01:18:37] <jdh> ultrasonic, laser-mic, vision
[01:19:49] <duc> Nice. We looked into a way to auto inspect welds but not sure it was in budget
[01:20:46] <jdh> I have a fairly large budget
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[01:21:27] <duc> Aerospace or military app?
[01:21:39] <jdh> utilities
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[01:23:04] <duc> The 3rd bottomless pit of money. Wish I had that kind of budget
[01:24:49] <duc> I would love to find a way to bring laser welding in house
[01:25:11] <Sync> all of the laser stuff vendors are super shady about their tech
[01:25:24] <_methods> don't let your insurance company find out you're laser welding in your house lol
[01:25:28] <jdh> I spent several years trying to get an inspectable laser weld and then moved on to resistance
[01:25:30] <Sync> for some laser engravers the techs will stop working if you are in a room with them
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[01:25:37] <duc> Which ones have you talked with?
[01:26:09] <jdh> our laser vendor would tell us whatever we wanted to know and supply parts, docs, etc
[01:26:56] <_methods> II-VI FTW
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[01:28:47] <duc> Rofin and electrox has been really good about talking but 200 k a system will do that
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[01:31:11] <R2E4> I got an atom motherboard which is what I read compatable with linux and linuxcnc, and I get the dreaded realtime error that motherboard is famous for......
[01:31:36] <R2E4> Is there a list of motherboards that work good for linuxcnc?
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[02:09:39] <zeeshan> R2E4:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Latency-Test
[02:10:30] <zeeshan> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/18-computer/29147-intel-cpu-on-board-motherboard-suggestion?start=20
[02:10:36] <zeeshan> post #62692
[02:10:38] <zeeshan> very nice combo
[02:10:41] <zeeshan> im planning to get that
[02:11:03] <McBride36> _methods, the leadscrew is all fixed :3
[02:11:05] <McBride36> thanks for the help
[02:11:51] <_methods> ah good deal
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[05:22:17] <jesseg> I guess G03 isn't allowed until after there's been at least one G0 or G1 :P
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[06:43:32] <jesseg> If a gcode file does not specify inch or metric is it safe to assume it's one or the other?
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[07:50:38] <renesis> jesseg: not really, the commands are modal so one or the other will be set at any given moment
[07:51:12] <renesis> in axis on the MDI tab there is a little box that displays active gcodes
[07:51:54] <renesis> you should always have it specified in a safety block on the first line, tho
[07:54:00] <renesis> jesseg: like, even if there was a default on startup, if you ran gcode that changed it and then ran gcode that didnt specify, the second gcode would NOT run as default units because the first gcode changed it, that is what modal means
[07:54:32] <renesis> this is why you should safety dance, even if you dont wanna
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[07:54:42] <renesis> you have to leave your friends behind
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[12:05:28] <XXCoder> check this out
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k
[12:05:32] <XXCoder> interesting
[12:05:40] <XXCoder> as a extra bonus the video is captioned.
[12:05:46] <XXCoder> people rarely bother.
[12:06:41] <malcom2073> It wouldn't be mst3k if it wasn't captioned
[12:06:52] <XXCoder> really?
[12:06:59] <malcom2073> The captioning was always a point of humor, remember?
[12:07:09] <XXCoder> well never watched its run
[12:07:21] <malcom2073> At least, I seem to recall tom making a joke about it a couple times
[12:07:26] <malcom2073> It's been years
[12:07:45] <XXCoder> I love how he takes out row of seats and places it lo
[12:08:46] <malcom2073> I'll have to watch the video later, I hope it gets funded and they bring it back
[12:10:41] <XXCoder> cool
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[12:19:04] <XXCoder> man
[12:19:09] <XXCoder> smbc loves superman.
http://www.ohnorobot.com/index.pl?s=superman;p=1;comic=137 lol
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[12:27:24] <XXCoder> one of my most favorite superman smbc comic.
http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1606#comic
[12:27:28] <XXCoder> so simple really.
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[12:29:27] <plasma_ger> Hi im in trouble i updated the mesa 7i76 firmware and now i got communication errors
[12:29:55] <plasma_ger> 868.128452] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0 error = (13) Communication error
[12:30:39] <plasma_ger> on startup i can move the mashine
[12:31:01] <plasma_ger> it brakes as the spindel M3 signal got sent
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[12:31:17] <plasma_ger> PCw are you on
[12:31:53] <plasma_ger> hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0 error = (4) Extra character
[12:35:31] <plasma_ger> pcw ? are you on
[12:35:43] <plasma_ger> pcw_home: are you here
[12:35:43] <_methods_> it's still early on this side of the water
[12:35:51] <plasma_ger> i see
[12:36:02] <_methods_> i'm sure he'll be on later
[12:36:18] <plasma_ger> then here it is off time ;-)
[12:36:43] <_methods_> i wish i could say the same
[12:36:46] <plasma_ger> someone knowes if i can check what firmware is ion the 5i25 and the 7i76
[12:36:47] <_methods_> just starting here
[12:37:17] <_methods_> dmesg?
[12:37:22] <_methods_> not sure
[12:38:09] <_methods_> dmesg -c
[12:38:27] <plasma_ger> i did post the errors
[12:38:30] <_methods_> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/39-pncconf/19939-mesa-5i257i77-plug-n-go-configuration?start=90
[12:38:55] <plasma_ger> mashine has been running for now 2years
[12:38:59] <plasma_ger> so its the update
[12:39:03] <_methods_> yeah
[12:39:05] <_methods_> that sucks
[12:39:27] <plasma_ger> it say<s update needs FPGA firmware 34
[12:39:42] <plasma_ger> how can i check if 5i25 has that version
[12:40:30] <plasma_ger> il need to check this
[12:41:57] <Tom_itx> mesaflash might tell you
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[12:43:04] <Tom_itx> https://github.com/micges/mesaflash
[12:43:07] <gonzo_> I'm still new to this. But isn't the 7i90 the only mesa card to keep the firmware in perm flash? The others load it when you load hm2?
[12:43:08] <Tom_itx> latest ver there
[12:43:34] <Tom_itx> i think the newer cards are doing that
[12:44:15] <Tom_itx> it stores 2, one is a fallback
[12:45:01] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Recover_Corrupt/Blank_EEPROM_5i24%2C6i24%2C7i24%2C_6i25
[12:45:11] <Tom_itx> also, that may be of some use
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[12:54:31] <plasma_ger> im Back
[12:54:39] <plasma_ger> Pcw here ?
[12:54:56] <plasma_ger> pcw_home: are You ere ?
[12:55:51] <Tom_itx> plasma_ger,
[12:55:53] <Tom_itx> zlog
[12:55:53] <zlog> Tom_itx: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2015-11-13.html
[12:55:57] <Tom_itx> read what you missed
[12:56:10] <plasma_ger> thanks
[12:56:23] <plasma_ger> SSLBP Version: 1.35
[12:58:09] <plasma_ger> Tom_itx: is the mesa firmware installed with a sh into /lib/firmware/hm2/cardname
[12:58:20] <plasma_ger> or do i nedd to copy all the files over
[12:58:32] <plasma_ger> by hand
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[12:58:47] <Tom_itx> install with mesaflash to whatever path your firmware resides
[12:58:52] <plasma_ger> downloaded the firmare file
[12:59:25] <Tom_itx> PCW will wake up soon and you can get his assistance
[12:59:37] <plasma_ger> so first hand the mesaflash tool needs to be in the same folder as the bin files
[12:59:52] <Tom_itx> best but not necessary
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[13:04:37] <plasma_ger> in the 5i25 i had only one file ;-)
[13:04:45] <plasma_ger> now i copyed all over
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[13:10:21] <plasma_ger> Tom_itx: i can not find how to update the firmware on the 5i25
[13:11:05] <plasma_ger> there is no readme inside the software download
[13:11:12] <plasma_ger> only in the 7i76
[13:11:56] <plasma_ger> and that only displays on how to get 7i76 updated and get info on flash version on 5i25
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[13:16:03] <Tom_itx> PCW will wake up soon and you can get his assistance
[13:16:07] <Tom_itx> i need to leave
[13:16:24] <R2E4> PCW sleeps?
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[13:18:12] <plasma_ger> Board configuration updated successfully
[13:18:37] <Tom_itx> that's a good sign
[13:21:42] <plasma_ger> but do i need to flash the 7i76 ones more now
[13:21:59] <plasma_ger> i repower please wait for the rerite
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[13:30:46] <plasma_ger> no i got the same fault
[13:30:52] <plasma_ger> BAD
[13:31:26] <plasma_ger> im now gone reprog the 7i76 ones more
[13:34:17] <plasma_ger> SSLBP Version: 1.43
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[13:41:24] <plasma_ger> ok all updated now im gone restart the system
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[13:54:10] <JT-Mint> mint is much better behaved than wheezy
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[14:02:56] <plasma_ger> hi im not getting to it
[14:03:01] <_methods> yeah i actually talked my wife into using mint for a year
[14:03:12] <plasma_ger> pcw_home: are you up ?
[14:03:19] <_methods> she went back to windows after that though
[14:03:25] <_methods> she was a real sport about it though
[14:03:41] <plasma_ger> doe someone hase a newer 7i76 or 5i25
[14:03:55] <plasma_ger> maybe its the config
[14:04:09] <Jymmm> _methods: even after a year? Did she have a tablet available to her?
[14:04:10] <plasma_ger> wit the new updated cardes
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[14:10:22] <_methods> yeah she has a tablet
[14:10:31] <_methods> but that's her "book" basically
[14:10:37] <_methods> stays by the bed
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[14:11:07] <_methods> i was surprised she stuck with it that long
[14:11:31] <_methods> but mint i would say is the most user friendly distro at this point in time
[14:15:24] <JT-Shop> yea, and everything works unlike wheezy which is broken IMHO
[14:17:18] <_methods> wheezy is broken?
[14:17:50] <JT-Shop> where do I start lol
[14:18:10] <_methods> i mean it's typical linux distro lol
[14:18:17] <_methods> mint is atypical
[14:19:28] <JT-Shop> it's not typical that you have to fight it tooth and nail to do simple stuff like save a new file
[14:19:45] <JT-Shop> try to share a directory lol
[14:20:11] <_methods> on wheezy?
[14:20:25] <_methods> i just set up a samba share
[14:21:05] <JT-Shop> the gtk file chooser is horrible now
[14:21:11] <JT-Shop> I can't stand to use it
[14:21:24] <_methods> did they switch to thunar?
[14:21:55] <_methods> i'm probably used to it from using xubuntu
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[14:24:18] <JT-Shop> thunar is ok, open gedit and click on open or save and you get an unordered list of recent places you visited lol
[14:25:11] <_methods> ah i use sublime
[14:25:33] <_methods> or vi
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[14:45:02] <plasma_ger> hi pcw ?
[14:45:23] <plasma_ger> pcw_home: ? are you awake
[14:46:06] <plasma_ger> folks halcompile is now not available anymore i did a fallback from master to 2.6
[14:46:16] <plasma_ger> i did install from buildbot
[14:46:34] <plasma_ger> now it saying halcomp not found
[14:46:41] <plasma_ger> i got gev inside
[14:46:46] <plasma_ger> Def ;-)
[14:47:52] <plasma_ger> sudo: halcompile: command not found
[14:48:10] <plasma_ger> any sugestions on that
[14:48:34] <plasma_ger> i got still the communication error
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[14:49:27] <plasma_ger> loadrt hm2_pci config=" num_encoders=0 num_pwmgens=0 num_3pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=5 sserial_port_0=00xxxxxx "
[14:49:48] <plasma_ger> do i need to find out a number in the new versions for the sserial port
[14:49:57] <plasma_ger> i never changed that
[14:50:15] <plasma_ger> it saing the sserial read is not running
[14:51:26] <JT-Shop> 2.6 uses the old name
[14:51:31] <JT-Shop> refer to the 2.6 docs
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[14:53:39] <plasma_ger> i know but its working with the error
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[15:00:56] * JT-Shop puts on his Carnac the Magnificent hat but still can't guess what the halcomp error is
[15:01:38] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: You're Hat-Fu is no good!
[15:02:21] <Jymmm> <delayed english audio goes here>
[15:02:32] <JT-Shop> I think your right Jymmm
[15:03:50] <Jymmm> RANDOMNESS.... For the record, squirrles bark.
[15:05:19] <Jymmm> Welcome to Friday the 13th!
[15:06:31] * Jymmm puts a shrimp on the barbi
[15:07:04] varesa is now known as varesa_
[15:07:18] <Jymmm> translation... another log in the stove ;)
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[15:08:39] <plasma_ger> hi im Back so work is done with fallback to 2.6
[15:08:48] <plasma_ger> Bad luck on updating
[15:08:59] <plasma_ger> PCW are you on ?
[15:09:13] <plasma_ger> pcw_home: are you at work ?
[15:09:32] * JT-Shop wonders why people use master then go back to 2.6 skipping 2.7 which is much better
[15:09:55] <plasma_ger> ok i will now go to 2.7
[15:12:10] <Jymmm> The barbi tried to bite back... wonderous things happen when you give oxygen to the fire you're starving =)
[15:12:44] <JT-Shop> yea I had that happen with some beef fat that caught on fire
[15:13:10] <Jymmm> didnt it drip through?
[15:14:54] <Jymmm> Stove is fine now, should burn good for a few hours. Think I'll starve it a little more; I see a couple of white coals.
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[15:20:01] <malcom2073> Oh lookie, it is friday the 13th isn't it?
[15:20:07] <malcom2073> Sounds like prime time to go purchase a piece of used machinary
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[15:31:45] <plasma_ger> no way the same error on 2.7 to get the mashione running
[15:32:10] <plasma_ger> does someone havew a 7i76 on his 2.7 config
[15:32:31] <plasma_ger> i think there is some need of setting com speed in the hal
[15:32:57] <plasma_ger> but i cand find any config thats newer tied as mine bevor 2years
[15:34:03] <plasma_ger> i need to repower the systrem
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[15:34:45] micges_ is now known as micges
[15:36:47] <MattyMatt> I scotchbrited an old pair of pincers and you can see the damascus steel layers in the handle. purdy
[15:37:06] <MattyMatt> guy who made them died in 1891 apparently
[15:37:47] <archivist> wrought iron probably rather than damascus steel
[15:38:17] <MattyMatt> layers of 2 stuffs I think. 5 layers in all
[15:38:39] <archivist> wrought iron has layers too
[15:38:49] <MattyMatt> damascene styly. it's made in sheffield :)
[15:39:46] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=wrought+iron
[15:39:55] <archivist> made in Elsecar
[15:40:39] <MattyMatt> the guy was accused of importing from Germany, who hadn't built their reputation at the time, and passing off :)
[15:41:24] <archivist> that handle is dated 1849
[15:41:29] <gonzo_> double barreled pincers
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[15:43:20] <MattyMatt> http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib2/TweedaleG/Howarth&Sons/Howarth&Sons-02.asp familiar sounding story :) in 100 years we'll insist on Chinese quality
[15:45:30] <malcom2073> In their defense, in 100 years they may have significantly higher quality
[15:46:20] <malcom2073> As countries move forward out of the industrial manufacturing and into technology, things will get pushed off to others who are still willing to do the work
[15:50:01] <MattyMatt> or robots reach the stage where labour is free, and stuff is made close to where it's used
[15:51:52] <malcom2073> That's the other interesting thing that is going to happen to China fairly soon heh
[15:52:02] <MattyMatt> with airships moving the raw materials :) and drones to deliver to customers of course
[15:53:05] <MattyMatt> GM donkeys and eagles
[15:53:33] <_methods> that'll do donkey
[15:53:40] <MattyMatt> GPS eagles. get me DARPA's number
[15:59:26] <MattyMatt> I'm a gonna try moulding a PCL faceplate onto my lathe nose thread. This stuff is like nylon if you keep it below 60C
[15:59:33] <_methods> parlec tool height presetters quotes came in at $17,900 for the 1850-400
[16:00:00] <_methods> and $17,061 for teh 1550-400
[16:00:20] <_methods> oops 1850 is $20,476
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[16:01:55] <jesseg> renesis, Thanks!
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[16:08:24] <CaptHindsight> sounds like I better stock up on Old Glory robot insurance
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[16:10:40] <CaptHindsight> https://screen.yahoo.com/old-glory-insurance-ad-000000469.html
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[16:27:13] <MattyMatt> Geo Restriction
[16:27:13] <MattyMatt> Sorry! The content provider has not given us the rights to play this video in your location.
[16:27:43] <MattyMatt> .luna
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[16:31:17] <MattyMatt> ^he's gone to get chased through the desert by helicopters since I blew the lid on the .luna TLD
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[17:05:05] <Tom_itx> _methods
[17:07:52] <_methods> hey
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[17:08:40] <_methods> what's up
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[17:12:19] <Tom_itx> just got in
[17:12:25] <Tom_itx> had some time to mess with 15..
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[17:40:30] <MattyMatt> stop press. blunt 4½" hole saw in 350W drill is less fun than a cnc dremel
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[17:43:56] <MattyMatt> and you don't get the chance to mill a hole pattern on centre while you're at it
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[17:45:43] <maxcnc> hi all im now at home plasma_ger
[17:45:52] <maxcnc> pcw onlione ?
[17:46:13] <maxcnc> pcw_home: online ?
[17:51:03] <JT-Shop> you don't have to constantly ask for him, once is enough
[17:51:16] <maxcnc> agree
[17:51:35] <maxcnc> i lost a mashine on update and now x-mas is nearing
[17:52:08] <maxcnc> i got so many work and only on 3 plasmas its not gone make it as tomorrow saturday is a realy hard day
[17:52:48] <maxcnc> it worked on 2.6 with miner errors on communication 13
[17:53:14] <maxcnc> then i needet to update as xhc hb04 is better on 2.8
[17:53:20] <archivist> you should also lurk in channel so he can answer
[17:54:05] <maxcnc> the 7i76 forced to update the flash i did that on 5i25 firm 1.35
[17:54:44] <maxcnc> ansd now nothing gone do do i even need this serial port to communicate
[17:56:50] <maxcnc> its yust a miss
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[18:20:07] <maxcnc> JT-Shop: do you know if i need for the mesaflash a special repro enabled if i call sudo apt-get install mesaflash it is not available
[18:20:39] <maxcnc> i copied the one in the utilieties from mesa-shop providet to the bin folder
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[18:21:42] <maxcnc> and that had a problem to sudo mesaflash --device 5i25 --reload
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[18:21:57] <maxcnc> reload option not available
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[18:22:25] <maxcnc> or unknown option --reload
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[18:46:59] <Tom_itx> you own a mint?
[18:47:50] <maxcnc> to mee no
[18:48:45] <maxcnc> i will build mices mesaflash tomorrow on the mashine set the watchdo tmer higher and try again
[18:54:27] <Tom_itx> install libpci-dev
[18:54:36] <Tom_itx> then make
[18:57:22] <SpeedEvil> I own several mints.
[18:57:25] <SpeedEvil> They are minty.
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[19:06:26] <maxcnc> maybe pcw will show up tonight for some basic infos
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[19:07:04] <maxcnc> he is always around and if in needed him he is on holiday
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[19:58:28] <Roguish> hey, anyone know the difference between an ER20 and an ER20A?
[19:58:32] <Roguish> collet
[20:11:50] <maxcnc> the 20A is longer and has more spring capacity as it can clamp litel bigger
[20:12:27] <Roguish> thanks. will an 20A fit a 20 holder? and visaversa?
[20:12:43] <Roguish> are they interchangable in the holders?
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[20:27:38] <maxcnc> yes it also has a tool stop inside the hole does not go throu
[20:29:32] <Roguish> ok, thanks. I have an ER20 holder and set of collets, and I need another holder. I see lots of ER20A holders on fleabay, from our asian friends, inexpensive.
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[20:47:52] <JT-Shop> Roguish, there is a collet chart on the internet somewhere
[20:48:04] <JT-Shop> might search for collet dimensions
[20:48:16] * JT-Shop goes back to work
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[20:53:16] <R2E4> damn, todays not a good day....
[20:53:51] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: yeah plenty of standard design sheet on collets
[20:54:18] <XXCoder> chinese ones has more runout if I recall but not too bad if you dont need to be too precise like .0005
[20:58:46] <maxcnc> R2E4: its friday the 13th
[20:58:55] <maxcnc> i lost a entire mashine
[20:59:15] <PetefromTn_> how do you lose a machine?
[20:59:16] <maxcnc> still waiting for PCE to show up ;-)
[20:59:21] <maxcnc> W
[20:59:25] <R2E4> shit it is...
[20:59:49] <maxcnc> PetefromTn_: are you on
[21:00:00] <R2E4> 3500.00 paint system is painting like a spray can....
[21:00:20] <PetefromTn_> I am here if that is what you mean hehe
[21:00:24] <maxcnc> R2 the tin makes les then 5USD
[21:00:58] <R2E4> yeah...
[21:01:17] <R2E4> Think the product is contaminated......
[21:01:23] <maxcnc> PetefromTn_: you are on the list of people that LOTHAR told me to say helow you may know him from the past IchGucksLive the guy how did all this vids on Youtube
[21:02:16] <PetefromTn_> I think I know Ichguckslive from the zone
[21:02:46] <R2E4> Didnt that guy write librecad?
[21:03:13] <maxcnc> no heeks cnc is his goal to be blamed
[21:03:14] <PetefromTn_> don't remember lothar
[21:04:21] <_methods> he used to come in here and say crazy stuff
[21:04:39] <PetefromTn_> there's plenty of those around here ;)
[21:04:43] <_methods> hahaha
[21:05:08] <maxcnc> hat sounds like him But he did a amazing Job on the University to build around 150 great mashines
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[21:05:47] <maxcnc> ok back to Work still waiting for PCW
[21:08:47] <XXCoder> isnt ich guy who retired and went to be his country version of ranger?
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[21:12:25] <jdh> thats him
[21:14:06] <XXCoder> yeah onder hows he doing
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[22:05:07] <maxcnc> XXCoder: hi hi is doing well thre has been a opening day its more like a rome living camp
[22:05:23] <maxcnc> 5years without moden civilisation
[22:05:39] <XXCoder> interesting
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[22:06:24] <XXCoder> still dunno what to do with extra parts lol
[22:06:38] <XXCoder> a full set of sbr rails and ballscrews.
[22:07:01] <maxcnc> get you a plasma and do some xmas stuff and make money
[22:07:14] <XXCoder> its quite small
[22:07:22] <XXCoder> 2 feet long
[22:07:53] <XXCoder> can always make laser but dont feel like it.
[22:07:56] <maxcnc> no then only a small mill for cool stuff
[22:08:02] <XXCoder> not sure how to sell em
[22:08:10] <XXCoder> I already has a nice cnc router
[22:08:25] <maxcnc> a china set of M542
[22:08:40] <maxcnc> with rails thats what sells most
[22:09:19] <maxcnc> ok im off for Today bye its 11pm here in germany
[22:09:24] <XXCoder> later
[22:09:32] <maxcnc> we lost 2:0 against france in Soccer
[22:09:53] <maxcnc> and lots of death in Paris on terror relaited attachs
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[22:18:58] <XXCoder> whoohoo may have finally found cause
http://repairpal.com/fuel-injectors-may-fail-and-cause-drivability-concerns-334
[22:19:16] <XXCoder> bad idle, smells gas. (I cant smell but my bro can)
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[22:22:45] <CaptHindsight> you don't smell? :)
[22:23:38] <XXCoder> yeah I always smell perfect
[22:23:41] <CaptHindsight> injectors sticking open?
[22:23:47] <XXCoder> in least thats what my nose tells me LOL
[22:23:59] <XXCoder> apparently? I gonna do tests
[22:24:16] <XXCoder> not too sure how yet, other sites talking about testing ohms on certain wires
[22:27:03] <XXCoder> too bad here is under washington foreverain
[22:27:10] <XXCoder> it wont stop raining all day
[22:27:14] <XXCoder> looks like for few days
[22:27:26] <XXCoder> finally some sun at sunday
[22:27:29] <XXCoder> sun-day lol
[22:27:33] <Sync> just remove the injector rail and look for the spray pattern
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[22:29:08] <CaptHindsight> who sells small quantities of perforated stainless besides McMaster Carr?
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[22:30:56] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9358t48/=zspk8y 304 Stainless Steel Perforated Sheet .048" Thick, 18 Gauge, .250" Hole Diameter, 58% Open
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[22:34:42] <Deejay> gn8
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[23:18:07] <XXCoder> hmm
[23:18:11] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-FIJ0006-Fuel-Injector/dp/B005ETRNCA
[23:18:14] <XXCoder> interesting
[23:18:28] <XXCoder> I wonder why its so expensive (normal prices are insane)
[23:22:31] <CaptHindsight> whats better for cutting through aluminum extrusions (crudely) in the field, a cordless circular saw or cordless grinder?
[23:23:42] <JT-Shop> a cold saw
[23:23:54] <CaptHindsight> cordless cold saw
[23:23:58] <XXCoder> lightsaber
[23:24:32] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: cordless lightsaber?
[23:24:41] <XXCoder> yep
[23:25:11] <CaptHindsight> I've only seen the ones with the 50ft plasma cords
[23:25:42] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: battery powered or Mr. Fusion?
[23:26:05] <XXCoder> lol that would be.. weird
[23:26:12] <XXCoder> as mr fusion makes its own power
[23:27:10] <Sync> CaptHindsight: regular circular will do
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[23:28:20] <CaptHindsight> takes too long with a hacksaw
[23:28:34] <XXCoder> cordless hacksaw
[23:28:54] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: sorry you already had your turn
[23:29:02] <XXCoder> heh
[23:29:16] <XXCoder> though I think cordless powered hacksaw DO exist
[23:29:33] <CaptHindsight> cordless bandsaw
[23:30:17] <CaptHindsight> coreless angle grinder might also be handy for cutting through U shaped hardened steel bars
[23:31:08] <CaptHindsight> http://www.zoro.com/milwaukee-cordless-band-saw-bare-tool-120v-27-in-2429-20/i/G4931455/?gclid=CNGF85vHjskCFRAvaQodRssNAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds
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[23:43:06] <Wolf_> I likey milwaukee cordless stuffs
[23:44:05] <Wolf_> some of it blows…
http://i.imgur.com/wFA6L17.jpg
[23:45:43] <Wolf_> for alum extrude even this would work
http://i.imgur.com/D6XDywz.jpg
[23:46:06] <Wolf_> I usually just use a miter saw tho
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[23:51:02] <Rap2_> Please forgive me for being off topic but does anyone know of a Linux or even windows post processor that will post gcode via a serial port to a Fanuc controller?
[23:51:48] <Rap2_> The one in master cam is kinda Janky
[23:53:02] <Tom_itx> dnc?
[23:53:12] <Tom_itx> no post will post direct
[23:53:17] <Tom_itx> that i know of
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[23:54:13] <Tom_itx> we used several different things for dnc
[23:54:51] <Tom_itx> surfcam had the best at the time
[23:55:28] <Tom_itx> but we used a combination of procomm, smartcam's comms package or surfcam's
[23:57:18] <Rap2_> are any of these freeware?
[23:57:47] <Tom_itx> i was trying to remember the one he's using right now and yes it was free
[23:57:55] <Tom_itx> just download in ascii mode basically
[23:58:07] <Tom_itx> just about any comm package will do that
[23:58:14] <Tom_itx> he was using hyperterm for a while
[23:58:27] <Tom_itx> just get the baud, bits etc right
[23:59:27] <Rap2_> so Im guessing I could do somthing like cat gcode.txt > /dev/comm1 and that would work?
[23:59:45] <Rap2_> providing the tty's were set for baud and all that
[23:59:49] <Tom_itx> i dunno, you could try that